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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1580089 times)
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June 03, 2011, 11:34:38 PM
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I requested a payment 3/4 blocks ago and haven't received it yet - block explorer says "no such transaction". Any ideas?
Blockexplorer can show you this transaction only after it gets included in some block and that block is received by BBE server.
If you see the transaction in your payments list then everything is fine and you just need to wait.

Okay, Tycho, I see your answer to someone else asking the question. You are changing the fee structure; maybe something is  up on your end.  I will wait and check again after hour changes to 0.00 GMT. (45 min)
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June 03, 2011, 11:41:02 PM
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tycho, i just sent a payment from my account. when I go to the table however, blockexplorer says "no such transaction" yet my BTC total has been debited. Help!
Have you seen a help page that is shown after pressing the "Instant Payment" button ?

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June 03, 2011, 11:49:10 PM
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yep, I saw it but couldn't get it back. All is well now and block explorer shows transaction.  Someone has to report the block transaction, yes, and hash it into the chain going forward?

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June 03, 2011, 11:57:42 PM
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Pay-to-Mine bitcoin mining, yay or nay?

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June 03, 2011, 11:59:20 PM
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yep, I saw it but couldn't get it back. All is well now and block explorer shows transaction.  Someone has to report the block transaction, yes, and hash it into the chain going forward?



Yep ... just patience.  As difficulty jumps, blocks are found more slowly, so the first confirmation can be a slow one.  You may not see instant notification if your client is part of the full P2P cloud [meaning you don't have your firewall open such that your client can be actively connected to by others.  A sure sign of that is that your bitcoin client sticks with only 8 connections.  If your router supports it and you trust people/hardware in your home, then turn on uPnP on the router and then in your bitcoin client.  Then restart your client].  Payouts from deepbit.net and BTC Guild show immediately in my client, essentially before I have let go of the button on the mouse I used to click the payout button on the site.  Smiley  After that, you should start seeing confirmations rolling in about as often as you see a long polling message in your miner [which implies that block was just found and thus may help along your confirmations].

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June 04, 2011, 12:13:14 AM
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Holy C****T!  :p

1933GH/s at last look and not even risking half the mining network either [finally there are many pools and some decent size pools to balance things].  Awesome accomplishment!  Congrats Tycho!  I see the hourly block rate is over eight though which means a significant difficulty increase although perhaps not as bad as in the past.  In any event, if new hashing power comes online distributed across the pools (or solo) as it has been, your pool stands to break the 2500GH/s barrier in not too long and likely still not be at that infamous 50% Smiley  I love it!  Bitcoin rocks!  Deepbit Rocks!  Many pools rock.  

BTW, that was a smart and honorable thing you did with the temporary 3% across the board fee cut after the DDOS [too bad others can cause damage to the innocent], but it seems to have helped you out in the long run if I am not mistaken.  It seems your pool may be as stable as I have ever seen it [in spite of some DDOS a-holes].  Keep up the great work!  Future growth potential is huge and deepbit is clearly the model that many others try to emulate and compete with.

Thank you for being there, dedicated and bearing with all us miners pressure and occasional critic like me.


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June 04, 2011, 01:11:37 AM
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Future growth potential is huge and deepbit is clearly the model that many others try to emulate and compete with.
Thanks :)

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June 04, 2011, 02:43:23 AM
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UPDATE:

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June 04, 2011, 03:22:53 AM
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Is it normal at the begging to appear 0.00MH/s at the account?

I am mining at 160000 kH/s for arround 20 minutes already with the diablo miner
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June 04, 2011, 03:35:47 AM
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Hey [Tycho] was wondering if at some point you can implement a page on your site that shows the top 50-100 or even total donors by name or number like guild and mine does by highest to lowest number hashes and shares and stuff? This way we can see where we stand against the other miners and how much shares, hashes, and anything else people are doing in an hr or 24hr period just for fun. Can make it global or an option like i believe BTCMine does. And if you dont want to use names then you can give each account a number and make it to where it will mark your number in the list among the others when you look at the page. something similar to the statistics page but by user instead of group as a whole.
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June 04, 2011, 03:42:53 AM
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OH GOD, A TWITTER ACCOUNT, lolz
now everyones gonna be typing @deebit_net and then people will go "wuhhh?" and then start mining xD ITS GONNA GET SO HARD

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June 04, 2011, 03:55:01 AM
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Nevermind, problem solved.
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June 04, 2011, 04:05:24 AM
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I just had over 6000 accepted shares, and was payed only 0.6 BTC on prop? That's complete bullshit!
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June 04, 2011, 04:29:36 AM
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Is it normal at the begging to appear 0.00MH/s at the account?

I am mining at 160000 kH/s for arround 20 minutes already with the diablo miner

You set the averaging window?  Smiley  I actually like having mine set at 5 minutes.  Setting it to a long period of time makes it seem like it is always low [which in truth it would be giving an infinite window], and I like to see the spikes when it is higher than my mining software reports.  It is just psychological goodness  Grin

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June 04, 2011, 04:40:59 AM
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I just had over 6000 accepted shares, and was payed only 0.6 BTC on prop? That's complete bullshit!

Why do you think it is bullshit?  The stats will all be available shortly if they aren't already and you can see how many shares you submitted and the total for the round.

The lower your total hash rate, the less you will complete in any given round and thus greater variance.  Use PPS if you want constant payment.

I mine relatively fast I suppose and yet I still get rounds where I am paid nothing.  Consider:

TimeFound inTotal sharesReward
03.06.2011 16:50:580h 00m16092None

I simply did not get a share accepted during that time frame. I may have submitted a share too late as a stale share, or work I was doing was dropped due to a long polling push.

The lower your hash rate, the more of these.  You should be able to see that it follows that in short rounds, you may get a much larger payment than is typical or a much smaller payment than is usual.  It is a quantum effect.  You take a variable amount of time to solve a share, but you submit a single share; there is no such thing as a partial share.  So, the shorter the round, the larger the value of each share.  It is theoretically possible that you could solve the first block of the round on the very first and only share and thus get the entire payout (-3%) of 48.5BTC for the round, but I think in practice, it would be nearly impossible to happen.

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June 04, 2011, 04:58:02 AM
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Is there some sort of delay on PPS crediting?
I've put up 22 shares and seen no change.
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June 04, 2011, 05:11:18 AM
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Is there some sort of delay on PPS crediting?
I've put up 22 shares and seen no change.

Your BTC is updated every hr on the hr. You will not see a change until then.
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June 04, 2011, 05:12:28 AM
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Is there some sort of delay on PPS crediting?
I've put up 22 shares and seen no change.

Your BTC is updated every hr on the hr. You will not see a change until then.
Ah, that would make sense. I've never checked it often before.
Thanks.
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June 04, 2011, 05:21:13 AM
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You get rounds where you get nothing.. Yeah well look at this!

Time/Link     Found in               Total shares   Reward
04.06.2011 12:12:13   0h 00m    1379           None
04.06.2011 12:12:05   0h 33m    886855   None
04.06.2011 11:38:23   0h 00m    12618   None
04.06.2011 11:37:52   0h 12m    321595   None
04.06.2011 11:25:30   0h 26m    684876   None
04.06.2011 10:59:27   0h 14m    372365   None
04.06.2011 10:45:23   0h 04m    129117   None
04.06.2011 10:40:25   0h 02m    63443   None
04.06.2011 10:37:57   0h 01m    31884   None
04.06.2011 10:36:40   0h 14m    372853   None
04.06.2011 10:22:17   0h 44m    1176528   None
04.06.2011 09:37:42   0h 02m    55404   None
04.06.2011 09:35:33   0h 11m    299528   None
04.06.2011 09:24:13   0h 23m    623853   None
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June 04, 2011, 05:42:23 AM
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You get rounds where you get nothing.. Yeah well look at this!

Time/Link     Found in               Total shares   Reward
04.06.2011 12:12:13   0h 00m    1379           None
04.06.2011 12:12:05   0h 33m    886855   None
04.06.2011 11:38:23   0h 00m    12618   None
04.06.2011 11:37:52   0h 12m    321595   None
04.06.2011 11:25:30   0h 26m    684876   None
04.06.2011 10:59:27   0h 14m    372365   None
04.06.2011 10:45:23   0h 04m    129117   None
04.06.2011 10:40:25   0h 02m    63443   None
04.06.2011 10:37:57   0h 01m    31884   None
04.06.2011 10:36:40   0h 14m    372853   None
04.06.2011 10:22:17   0h 44m    1176528   None
04.06.2011 09:37:42   0h 02m    55404   None
04.06.2011 09:35:33   0h 11m    299528   None
04.06.2011 09:24:13   0h 23m    623853   None

Something is very wrong. You are either on proportional, or you are mining at an inexplicably slow rate. 1Mh/s is roughly equal to 1 share an hour, so to miss submitting a share during a 44 minute block, you would have to be mining at less than 730Kh/s.

I would have a good look at your client to see if it is properly optimized, or even working for that matter. More info about your setup would be useful too, as I would be glad to help diagnose this peculiar phenomenon.
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