[DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too

[[Tycho]]

29.04 05:35:56   9h 28m   6041      19191553    0.00361762 <-------------------------------------- (Block 233685)
28.04 20:07:17   0h 30m   340           1080488    0.00763081
28.04 19:37:10   3h 35m   2355   7643323    0.00734798

Worker payout method was proportional for all these blocks, so it is expected to get paid pretty evenly for each block,  with condition that ratio of pool hash rate / my hash rate stays the same.  As you may see by the number of my shares and the total number of shares for each block in the sample it is true, how do you explain more than 50% cut for block 233685?

It may be cause by some connectivity problems between the pool and your miner, so less shares were submitted during this round. Can you check this ?

[[Tycho]]

Pool's website is temporarily unavailable, I'm working on this.
Mining shouldn't be affected.

[organofcorti]

29.04 05:35:56   9h 28m   6041      19191553    0.00361762 <-------------------------------------- (Block 233685)
28.04 20:07:17   0h 30m   340           1080488    0.00763081
28.04 19:37:10   3h 35m   2355   7643323    0.00734798

Worker payout method was proportional for all these blocks, so it is expected to get paid pretty evenly for each block,  with condition that ratio of pool hash rate / my hash rate stays the same.  As you may see by the number of my shares and the total number of shares for each block in the sample it is true, how do you explain more than 50% cut for block 233685?

It may be cause by some connectivity problems between the pool and your miner, so less shares were submitted during this round. Can you check this ?

I think what he means is that the proportion of shares is similar in each round, but the payment is different. I think your prop fee is 3%, so:

6041  /   19191553 * 25 * 0.97 =  0.007633267, was paid only 0.00361762
340    /   1080488 * 25 * 0.97 =   0.007630811
2355  /   7643323 * 25 * 0.97 =  0.007471717

[[Tycho]]

I think what he means is that the proportion of shares is similar in each round, but the payment is different. I think your prop fee is 3%, so:

6041  /   19191553 * 25 * 0.97 =  0.007633267, was paid only 0.00361762
340    /   1080488 * 25 * 0.97 =   0.007630811
2355  /   7643323 * 25 * 0.97 =  0.007471717

Oh, sorry, didn't read this carefully enough.
Then maybe he temporarily switched some of his miners to PPS mode ? PPS reward is not shown in this table.

[eifiug]

@ [tycho] Impossible to PM you and no answer from the DeepBit account, so I'll try again here.
 I never received the confirmation mail when I switched bitcoin address.

Waiting for confirmation of your new bitcoin address:
1CQJbDVuqzQKHXDJHedWxwrydskbBZXA9g
If you can't receive our e-mail, please contact us.

[vasvla]

Oh, sorry, didn't read this carefully enough.
Then maybe he temporarily switched some of his miners to PPS mode ? PPS reward is not shown in this table.

Tycho, I'm certain I haven't done proportional -> pps switch during shown blocks, furthermore that problematic block was in the middle of the night while I was sleeping and I don't have any software for automatic management of my workers. Too bad I don't have access to some log so I can prove it, my miners haven't reported anything strange about rejected blocks or something, but maybe you may check it out in pool logs and pass me info via PM or even better make more info accessible on the site.

0.4 bt cents is not much of difference, but I'm more interested in the true reason why that happened and to help you investigate the case so it won't repeat. I'm developer myself and I don't like when things don't work as expected

[[Tycho]]

@ [tycho] Impossible to PM you and no answer from the DeepBit account, so I'll try again here.
 I never received the confirmation mail when I switched bitcoin address.

Yes, looks like the problem is in your e-mail service. I'll send you a message manually, from gmail now.

UPD: Solved.

[nonServiam]

Hello, i have requested instant payout but not receive it. I can not see a transaction logged on blockexplorer.

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3a1ea6f7bf4995fbc36e02c3a6df271bafe2152e43c10f36f61a68020a2ef421

Error
No such transaction

[[Tycho]]

Hello, i have requested instant payout but not receive it. I can not see a transaction logged on blockexplorer.

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3a1ea6f7bf4995fbc36e02c3a6df271bafe2152e43c10f36f61a68020a2ef421

Error
No such transaction

Blockexplorer only shows confirmed TXes. Try switching to blockchain.info at the pool's options page.

[nonServiam]

Hello, i have requested instant payout but not receive it. I can not see a transaction logged on blockexplorer.

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3a1ea6f7bf4995fbc36e02c3a6df271bafe2152e43c10f36f61a68020a2ef421

Error
No such transaction

Blockexplorer only shows confirmed TXes. Try switching to blockchain.info at the pool's options page.

Transaction not found

http://blockchain.info/tx/3a1ea6f7bf4995fbc36e02c3a6df271bafe2152e43c10f36f61a68020a2ef421

[[Tycho]]

Transaction not found

Well, it means that it wasn't received by blockchain.info and we'll have to wait for our pool to solve a new block to confirm it. Sometimes this happens, sorry.

[nonServiam]

Transaction not found

Well, it means that it wasn't received by blockchain.info and we'll have to wait for our pool to solve a new block to confirm it. Sometimes this happens, sorry.

ok.

I have another question. my "miner" to work for 25 hours without having to get a payout. why?

bfgminer
proportional
avg 900 mhs

Sorry for my bad english.

[MeisterLone]

24h+ and no payouts/blocks discovered with 2500mhs?? Dafuq.

[nonServiam]

24h+ and no payouts/blocks discovered with 2500mhs?? Dafuq.

avg 900-930 mhs.

[eleuthria]

24h+ and no payouts/blocks discovered with 2500mhs?? Dafuq.

I have another question. my "miner" to work for 25 hours without having to get a payout. why?

Looks like Deepbit hasn't found any blocks in the last 25 hours.  At ~2400 GH/s and difficulty over 10,000,000, this is not unusual.

[nonServiam]

24h+ and no payouts/blocks discovered with 2500mhs?? Dafuq.

I have another question. my "miner" to work for 25 hours without having to get a payout. why?

Looks like Deepbit hasn't found any blocks in the last 25 hours.  At ~2400 GH/s and difficulty over 10,000,000, this is not unusual.

But in "bfgminer" was very often in time "Pool 0 caught up to new block" and "Longpool from Pool 0 caught up to new block".

Time is German Time

[vasvla]

Blockchain says there are 2 blocks solved in last 12h, and none is shown on site, yet. What is going on?

https://blockchain.info/blocks/Deepbit

[os2sam]

24h+ and no payouts/blocks discovered with 2500mhs?? Dafuq.

I have another question. my "miner" to work for 25 hours without having to get a payout. why?

Looks like Deepbit hasn't found any blocks in the last 25 hours.  At ~2400 GH/s and difficulty over 10,000,000, this is not unusual.

But in "bfgminer" was very often in time "Pool 0 caught up to new block" and "Longpool from Pool 0 caught up to new block".

Time is German Time

That just means that Deepbit was to the first pool in your pool list to see the new block.

[eleuthria]

Blockchain says there are 2 blocks solved in last 12h, and none is shown on site, yet. What is going on?

https://blockchain.info/blocks/Deepbit

Blockchain.info has always been completely terrible at identifying Deepbit blocks since Tycho doesn't have anything special in his payout address/coinbase (last I looked).

[[Tycho]]

Website will be temporarily unavailable for maintenance, please wait.
Mining is not affected by this.