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March 08, 2014, 05:17:19 PM |
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Dont tell me this is the end off multi pools ? Date BTC Earned Avg Hashrate BTC / 1MH Mar 08, 2014 (partial) 130.95482985 26.86 GH/s 0.00691149 Mar 07, 2014 176.44967423 27.22 GH/s 0.00648274 Mar 06, 2014 182.67115819 24.67 GH/s 0.00740525 Mar 05, 2014 177.24625993 26.01 GH/s 0.00681583 Mar 04, 2014 151.07244187 24.88 GH/s 0.00607105 Mar 03, 2014 204.10525969 23.52 GH/s 0.00867769 Mar 02, 2014 206.75970210 21.65 GH/s 0.00954890 Soon its going to become Half a 0.005/Per MH Then 0.0025 then Half again, then Electricity takes the lead and then people start selling their gear ... Im curious if profitability will increase again
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March 08, 2014, 05:39:21 PM |
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Dont tell me this is the end off multi pools ? Soon its going to become Half a 0.005/Per MH Then 0.0025 then Half again, then Electricity takes the lead and then people start selling their gear ... Im curious if profitability will increase again Maybe now the ASICS will come, they dont need much electricity, GPUs eat too much. Same that happened with Bitcoin sha will happen with scrypt. Every day I see it more and more clear. First ASIC scrypt are a bit expensive, but just wait a few months and see.
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March 08, 2014, 06:14:02 PM |
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Dont tell me this is the end off multi pools ? Soon its going to become Half a 0.005/Per MH Then 0.0025 then Half again, then Electricity takes the lead and then people start selling their gear ... Im curious if profitability will increase again Maybe now the ASICS will come, they dont need much electricity, GPUs eat too much. Same that happened with Bitcoin sha will happen with scrypt. Every day I see it more and more clear. First ASIC scrypt are a bit expensive, but just wait a few months and see. Highly unlikely. SHA ASICS were orders of magnitude better in processing power than GPUs. scrypt is memory intensive and the basic idea was for it to be ASIC resistant. Even in a few months their only advantage would be energy consumption (and in some cases noise, space and heat). In addition BTC was just one coin, you have hundreds of scrypt coins then scrypt jane, variable n etc. All the asics in the world would have to spread their hashing power among many coins. I'll keep buying video cards and if all fails i'll just turn them into a gpu farm and still make money from it. plus they are great in winter
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March 08, 2014, 06:34:59 PM |
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poolwaffle (OP)
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March 08, 2014, 06:44:06 PM |
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Remote API Unreachable Someone here mentioned it might have something to do with the DDOS protection strengthening we did a few day ago. I'll contact Wil and see what we can do to make it work.
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GalacticMiningCorp
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March 08, 2014, 07:02:42 PM |
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Someone here mentioned it might have something to do with the DDOS protection strengthening we did a few day ago. I'll contact Wil and see what we can do to make it work.
It makes sense if a single endpoint (or a small number of IPs) coming from MrWil's service is constantly hitting your api URL. I'd imagine that X number of people using it * 1 or 5 min intervals is going to amount to a fair bit of traffic and trigger some kind of anti-DDOS response.
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March 08, 2014, 07:17:30 PM |
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Someone here mentioned it might have something to do with the DDOS protection strengthening we did a few day ago. I'll contact Wil and see what we can do to make it work.
It makes sense if a single endpoint (or a small number of IPs) coming from MrWil's service is constantly hitting your api URL. I'd imagine that X number of people using it * 1 or 5 min intervals is going to amount to a fair bit of traffic and trigger some kind of anti-DDOS response. Eh.. How does that work? My one IP refreshing every couple of minutes enables DDoS protection? Wouldn't miners trip it too everytime they sent/received data, they have to be sending connections far more often than this stats thing?
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March 08, 2014, 07:18:54 PM |
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for rickme, { "pools" : [ { "url" : "stratum+tcp://eu.wafflepool.com:3333", "user" : "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", "pass" : "d=512" }, { "url" : "stratum+tcp://uswest.wafflepool.com:3333", "user" : "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", "pass" : "d=512" }, { "url" : "stratum+tcp://useast.wafflepool.com:3333", "user" : "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", "pass" : "d=512" }, { "url" : "stratum+tcp://ltc-eu.give-me-coins.com:3333", "user" : "xxxxx", "pass" : "xxxx" } ] , "intensity" : "19,19", "vectors" : "1,1", "worksize" : "256,256", "kernel" : "scrypt,scrypt", "lookup-gap" : "0,0", "thread-concurrency" : "0,0", "shaders" : "0,0", "gpu-engine" : "700-1050,700-1150", "gpu-fan" : "0-85,0-85", "gpu-memclock" : "1250,1250", "gpu-memdiff" : "0,0", "gpu-powertune" : "20,20", "gpu-vddc" : "1.100,1.100", "temp-cutoff" : "75,75", "temp-overheat" : "65,65", "temp-target" : "60,60", "api-listen" : true, "api-mcast-port" : "4028", "api-port" : "4028", "auto-fan" : true, "auto-gpu" : true, "expiry" : "5", "gpu-dyninterval" : "7", "gpu-platform" : "0", "gpu-threads" : "1", "hotplug" : "5", "log" : "5", "no-pool-disable" : true, "queue" : "5", "scan-time" : "5", "scrypt" : true, "temp-hysteresis" : "3", "shares" : "0", "kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin", "api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1" }
copy paste into a file named cgminer.conf and just start the cgminer.exe without any arguments. also, ADD your bitcoin address
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March 08, 2014, 07:35:57 PM |
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Eh.. How does that work? My one IP refreshing every couple of minutes enables DDoS protection? Wouldn't miners trip it too everytime they sent/received data, they have to be sending connections far more often than this stats thing?
I'm not sure what PW's back end infrastructure is like but MrWil is aggregating data through PW's web endpoint. If, for example, MrWil's processes are hitting PW's API for 1,000 users, ranging from 1 min to 5 mins each, that's several thousand requests a minute at least to that endpoint. This could definitely look like a DDOS attack to monitoring software. The mining data is most likely set up a different way. This is an educated guess at best. Ideally, PW would be setting up rate limiting for the API for general use, and maybe white-listed IP addresses for more intensive services like MrWil's with some kind of rev-share or other agreement in place for the service.
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ClemsonBTC
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March 08, 2014, 07:47:48 PM |
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Eh.. How does that work? My one IP refreshing every couple of minutes enables DDoS protection? Wouldn't miners trip it too everytime they sent/received data, they have to be sending connections far more often than this stats thing?
I'm not sure what PW's back end infrastructure is like but MrWil is aggregating data through PW's web endpoint. If, for example, MrWil's processes are hitting PW's API for 1,000 users, ranging from 1 min to 5 mins each, that's several thousand requests a minute at least to that endpoint. This could definitely look like a DDOS attack to monitoring software. The mining data is most likely set up a different way. This is an educated guess at best. Ideally, PW would be setting up rate limiting for the API for general use, and maybe white-listed IP addresses for more intensive services like MrWil's with some kind of rev-share or other agreement in place for the service. I had totally just woken up when I wrote that.. Oh sheesh I'm a complete idiot for thinking I was the ONLY person using MrWil's website to pull data lol. Ahhh the human brain was not designed to function without coffee!!! haha sorry
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GalacticMiningCorp
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March 08, 2014, 08:24:33 PM |
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I had totally just woken up when I wrote that.. Oh sheesh I'm a complete idiot for thinking I was the ONLY person using MrWil's website to pull data lol. Ahhh the human brain was not designed to function without coffee!!! haha sorry LOL! No worries; I myself typically need a full pot of coffee to be able to tie my shoes, let alone be allowed around sharp objects
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March 08, 2014, 08:36:12 PM |
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Eh.. How does that work? My one IP refreshing every couple of minutes enables DDoS protection? Wouldn't miners trip it too everytime they sent/received data, they have to be sending connections far more often than this stats thing?
I'm not sure what PW's back end infrastructure is like but MrWil is aggregating data through PW's web endpoint. If, for example, MrWil's processes are hitting PW's API for 1,000 users, ranging from 1 min to 5 mins each, that's several thousand requests a minute at least to that endpoint. This could definitely look like a DDOS attack to monitoring software. The mining data is most likely set up a different way. This is an educated guess at best. Ideally, PW would be setting up rate limiting for the API for general use, and maybe white-listed IP addresses for more intensive services like MrWil's with some kind of rev-share or other agreement in place for the service. You got it, I think. It's actually closer to ~4000 people every 1-5 minutes. The connections from my servers are being ended immediately and not just timing out like stale DNS records. I'm also personally seeing intermittent data points pop up. I'm almost positive that it's due to the new DDOS protection that's in place. I sent poolwaffle the IP's of the two servers that will be connecting to the API in the hopes that he can white-list them.
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March 08, 2014, 10:42:55 PM |
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Eh.. How does that work? My one IP refreshing every couple of minutes enables DDoS protection? Wouldn't miners trip it too everytime they sent/received data, they have to be sending connections far more often than this stats thing?
I'm not sure what PW's back end infrastructure is like but MrWil is aggregating data through PW's web endpoint. If, for example, MrWil's processes are hitting PW's API for 1,000 users, ranging from 1 min to 5 mins each, that's several thousand requests a minute at least to that endpoint. This could definitely look like a DDOS attack to monitoring software. The mining data is most likely set up a different way. This is an educated guess at best. Ideally, PW would be setting up rate limiting for the API for general use, and maybe white-listed IP addresses for more intensive services like MrWil's with some kind of rev-share or other agreement in place for the service. You got it, I think. It's actually closer to ~4000 people every 1-5 minutes. The connections from my servers are being ended immediately and not just timing out like stale DNS records. I'm also personally seeing intermittent data points pop up. I'm almost positive that it's due to the new DDOS protection that's in place. I sent poolwaffle the IP's of the two servers that will be connecting to the API in the hopes that he can white-list them. Whitelisted, Ideally within the hour, everything should be going through fine from the stats pages
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March 08, 2014, 10:54:58 PM Last edit: March 08, 2014, 11:21:23 PM by LostSavage |
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Highly unlikely. SHA ASICS were orders of magnitude better in processing power than GPUs. scrypt is memory intensive and the basic idea was for it to be ASIC resistant. Even in a few months their only advantage would be energy consumption (and in some cases noise, space and heat). In addition BTC was just one coin, you have hundreds of scrypt coins then scrypt jane, variable n etc. All the asics in the world would have to spread their hashing power among many coins. I'll keep buying video cards and if all fails i'll just turn them into a gpu farm and still make money from it. plus they are great in winter From what I understand the creator of scrypt says Litecoin (and anything based on it) "used scrypt poorly". So that is not a large roadblock to ASIC scrypt miners. The current ASIC script dualminer/gridseed use chips that are made on a 55 nm process that was state of the art around 2007. I would guess half of the silicon is used for SHA-256 and not scrypt. So we have yet to see the true power of a ASIC scrypt miner. There are a number of SHA-256 coins too. Looking at coinwarz three are currently are more profitable than Bitcoin. Strangely I don't know of any SHA-256 multi-coin pools (but I haven't looked). Currently there are two scrypt coins listed on coinwarz that are unprofitable based on reasonable energy costs. I expect in six months half of the script coins listed will be unprofitable. It the past month the value of Dogecoin has fallen 50%. This is very poor when compared to Litecoin that fell around 10%. As the total hash rate rises the total number of coins produced does not go up very much (by design). A similar rise in coin prices may not happen. Also next gen 20 nm video cards will be coming out the 2nd half of this year. The new GeForce GTX 750 Ti from Nvidia card gives some idea on these cards. A GeForce GTX 750 Ti uses 55% of the power for the same hash rate as a comparable AMD card. I expect R9 280X/7970 GPUs used in miners to have a value around $140 a few months after the new cards are released.
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March 08, 2014, 11:47:30 PM |
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Any infos on return of the coins-mined graph ?
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March 09, 2014, 12:20:44 AM |
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If you really want to make yourself nervous, look at this... scroll to the bottom. http://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/products/50mhs for $7k, 200mhs for $21k. When/if these are ever readily available, we all have to reinvest in new hardware.
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March 09, 2014, 12:46:10 AM |
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When/if these are ever readily available, we all have to reinvest in new hardware.
Speak for yourself, assuming that these have any impact (I would argue these ASIC's won't be the death of anything), I would just move to mining something more ASIC resistant.
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March 09, 2014, 12:59:24 AM |
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Highly unlikely. SHA ASICS were orders of magnitude better in processing power than GPUs. scrypt is memory intensive and the basic idea was for it to be ASIC resistant. Even in a few months their only advantage would be energy consumption (and in some cases noise, space and heat). In addition BTC was just one coin, you have hundreds of scrypt coins then scrypt jane, variable n etc. All the asics in the world would have to spread their hashing power among many coins. I'll keep buying video cards and if all fails i'll just turn them into a gpu farm and still make money from it. plus they are great in winter From what I understand the creator of scrypt says Litecoin (and anything based on it) "used scrypt poorly". So that is not a large roadblock to ASIC scrypt miners. The current ASIC script dualminer/gridseed use chips that are made on a 55 nm process that was state of the art around 2007. I would guess half of the silicon is used for SHA-256 and not scrypt. So we have yet to see the true power of a ASIC scrypt miner. There are a number of SHA-256 coins too. Looking at coinwarz three are currently are more profitable than Bitcoin. Strangely I don't know of any SHA-256 multi-coin pools (but I haven't looked). Currently there are two scrypt coins listed on coinwarz that are unprofitable based on reasonable energy costs. I expect in six months half of the script coins listed will be unprofitable. It the past month the value of Dogecoin has fallen 50%. This is very poor when compared to Litecoin that fell around 10%. As the total hash rate rises the total number of coins produced does not go up very much (by design). A similar rise in coin prices may not happen. Also next gen 20 nm video cards will be coming out the 2nd half of this year. The new GeForce GTX 750 Ti from Nvidia card gives some idea on these cards. A GeForce GTX 750 Ti uses 55% of the power for the same hash rate as a comparable AMD card. I expect R9 280X/7970 GPUs used in miners to have a value around $140 a few months after the new cards are released. multipool itself has a sha-256 switcher. i think there are others as well
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March 09, 2014, 01:03:18 AM |
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Speak for yourself, assuming that these have any impact (I would argue these ASIC's won't be the death of anything), I would just move to mining something more ASIC resistant.
That might be a flawed assumption that there will be any worth mining.
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