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September 05, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
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I told you, now I keep X and withdraw the benefits Smiley
Compute (X + X * (1.017^(5/9/2015-31/5/2015) - 1) - 20) / X
and given X, you will know what is my benefice untill today Smiley

And my question was - and is - why don't you withdraw it all? Given that you acknowledge that you've been ripped off for 20 BTC already, I want to understand why you keep any money at scrypt.cc. Is it because you can't withdraw it? Is it because you don't understand the difference between realised and unrealised profits? Is it because you're happy to gamble? Or is it some other reason I've not considered?

I don't really care what your "benefice untill today" is - what I want to know is why you still have money invested in scrypt.cc, given the 20 BTC rip-off you experienced.

Here's what I asked you in my last post, I've repeated it here so you can answer the question I'm asking, and not imaginary questions about "benefice":

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So, in summary, you still have BTC "invested" at scrypt.cc, and - despite already having been ripped off for 20 BTC - you're quite happy to keep the money invested there because it's "just" (unrealised) profit? Is that a fair assessment of your situation?


...and the same question, from the post before that one:
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Were you unable to withdrawal all of your "investment", and left with no choice but to sit it out until you could withdrawal everything?

I consider this 20 BTC not ripped, but given to scrypt.cc admin so he can continue the game. How you think he can run this game without mining and continuing to offer 1.7% daily?
Are you so stupid that you repeat your question "you don't understand the difference between realised and unrealised profits?" again and again after I told you I withdraw periodicaly my new benefits?
Suppose x = 10. Compute benefits: (x + x*(1.017^95-1)-20)/x
and think Smiley

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September 05, 2015, 11:32:54 AM
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The real math is like this: Investment * .99 = Amount of Loss to Scamtos. Because he's counting on idiots that despite losing most of their invested BTC believe his bullshit... He was last in the chatbox on his site on 7/20 promising rewards would return to previous levels. And the PQ's believe...
Smiley The rewards at hashnest.com are only 0.3% daily Smiley
Smiley The rewards at scrypt.cc are not so bad: 1.7% daily (with good trading) Smiley
Exemple: https://scrypt.cc/users/calculator.php

Total KHS: 10000
Total Investment: 7.85490000 BTC ($1790.92 USD)
Daily Income: 0.13436032 BTC ($30.63 USD)
Monthly Income: 4.16516992 BTC ($949.53 USD)
Break Even In: 58 Days.
Monthly Rate: 51.72%
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September 05, 2015, 11:34:56 AM
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I consider this 20 BTC not ripped, but given to scrypt.cc admin so he can continue the game. How you think he can run this game without mining and continuing to offer 1.7% daily?
Are you so stupid that you repeat your question "you don't understand the difference between realised and unrealised profits?" again and again after I told you I withdraw periodicaly my new benefits?
Suppose x = 10. Compute my benefits: (x + x*(1.017^95-1)-20)/x
and think Smiley



Thank you. So, it's a game, scrypt.cc aren't mining.

You can make assumptions about my age, gender and level of intelligence all you like (standard operating procedure for scrpt.cc fans here seems to be making assumptions about sexuality, so you're doing better than some) - it's not going to anger me and I'm going to continue to ask questions until you answer them. All you had to say was "I'm a gambler" several posts ago and you'd have answered my question. However, on the subject of unrealised profits - you continue to keep money in scrypt.cc. That's silly if you're an investor. It does make (some) sense if you're a gambler - you're gambling that you will be able to realise your profits before the trapdoor is bolted shut.

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Last edit: September 05, 2015, 12:09:19 PM by ddalex
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I consider this 20 BTC not ripped, but given to scrypt.cc admin so he can continue the game. How you think he can run this game without mining and continuing to offer 1.7% daily?
Are you so stupid that you repeat your question "you don't understand the difference between realised and unrealised profits?" again and again after I told you I withdraw periodicaly my new benefits?
Suppose x = 10. Compute my benefits: (x + x*(1.017^95-1)-20)/x
and think Smiley

Thank you. So, it's a game, scrypt.cc aren't mining.

You can make assumptions about my age, gender and level of intelligence all you like (standard operating procedure for scrpt.cc fans here seems to be making assumptions about sexuality, so you're doing better than some) - it's not going to anger me and I'm going to continue to ask questions until you answer them. All you had to say was "I'm a gambler" several posts ago and you'd have answered my question. However, on the subject of unrealised profits - you continue to keep money in scrypt.cc. That's silly if you're an investor. It does make (some) sense if you're a gambler - you're gambling that you will be able to realise your profits before the trapdoor is bolted shut.
Now do a little more effort and consider, that the
theoretical profit (x + x*(1.017^95-1)-20)/x
can be partitioned in two sets:
1) U: unrealised (non withdrawn yet) and
2) R: realised (withdrawn) profit.
If x = 10 then (x + x*(1.017^95-1)-20)/x = 396%
Taking into account the price manipulations by the admin
and reinvestment of less than 100%,
the profit is less than 396%
but much more than the 2% for bank deposit and the rate variation of BTC/USD:)

P.S. I like your intelligence to put clever questions, this is an exception here Smiley
  And hope you do more at https://coinut.com/ Smiley
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September 05, 2015, 12:09:22 PM
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Thank you. So, it's a game, scrypt.cc aren't mining.

You can make assumptions about my age, gender and level of intelligence all you like (standard operating procedure for scrpt.cc fans here seems to be making assumptions about sexuality, so you're doing better than some) - it's not going to anger me and I'm going to continue to ask questions until you answer them. All you had to say was "I'm a gambler" several posts ago and you'd have answered my question. However, on the subject of unrealised profits - you continue to keep money in scrypt.cc. That's silly if you're an investor. It does make (some) sense if you're a gambler - you're gambling that you will be able to realise your profits before the trapdoor is bolted shut.
Now do a little more effort and consider, that the
theoretical profit (x + x*(1.017^95-1)-20)/x
can be partitioned in two sets:
1) U: unrealised (non withdrawn yet) and
2) R: realised (withdrawn) profit.
If x = 10 then (x + x*(1.017^95-1)-20)/x = 396%
Taking into account the price manipulations by the admin
it was less than 396% but much more than the 2% for bank deposit and the rate variation of BTC/USD:)

P.S. I like your intelligence to put clever questions Smiley

Why? What would this show me that your (eventual) answer above didn't? Your (eventual) answer showed me that you're a gambler - any advantage you see in scrypt.cc isn't likely going to be an advantage for me (because I'm not a gambler - I'm looking for investments where (a) I can assess risk and reward, and (b) the risk/reward ratio is favourable).

Going forward, when people question whether scrypt.cc is a safe investment, maybe you could acknowledge up-front that you're a gambler and don't regard scrypt.cc as cloud mining, but as a ponzi scam. That would save a lot of time, and might save some people from losing their money.

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September 05, 2015, 12:21:31 PM
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The real math is like this: Investment * .99 = Amount of Loss to Scamtos. Because he's counting on idiots that despite losing most of their invested BTC believe his bullshit... He was last in the chatbox on his site on 7/20 promising rewards would return to previous levels. And the PQ's believe...
Smiley The rewards at hashnest.com are only 0.3% daily Smiley
Smiley The rewards at scrypt.cc are not so bad: 1.7% daily (with good trading) Smiley
Exemple: https://scrypt.cc/users/calculator.php

Total KHS: 10000
Total Investment: 7.85490000 BTC ($1790.92 USD)
Daily Income: 0.13436032 BTC ($30.63 USD)
Monthly Income: 4.16516992 BTC ($949.53 USD)
Break Even In: 58 Days.
Monthly Rate: 51.72%

This isn't a valid comparison because Hashnest:

1. Actually mines
2. Doesn't steal your coins
3. Doesn't periodically disappear

You're still talking about 58 day break-even but by your own admission you lost 20 BTC. Oh well, I guess it was time for passing of the shill torch since the others have been quiet for a bit. If you actually ROI on anything you got today 58 days from now, I'll reconsider my position. Post back here if on Day 59 you can withdraw more than 7.8549 BTC. Trust me, you won't.

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September 05, 2015, 12:26:52 PM
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Finally trying to withdraw the last coins out of scrypt.cc. About 0.008BTC in total. I will keep you updated!
I don't expect to get the coins...

Actually both of my scrypt.cc withdrawals went trough:
https://blockchain.info/tx/3e20d863f448fcd263e01153a63626db0cf741881e4afb17ce5ca2f3dccec1fb
https://blockchain.info/tx/46d923880282ab583910d5409160efe113c600b86c81f0c2ebf7cfe05b59525d

Account 1:


Account 2:
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September 05, 2015, 12:36:26 PM
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I'm looking for investments where (a) I can assess risk and reward, and (b) the risk/reward ratio is favourable.
Going forward, when people question whether scrypt.cc is a safe investment, maybe you could acknowledge up-front that you're a gambler and don't regard scrypt.cc as cloud mining, but as a ponzi scam. That would save a lot of time, and might save some people from losing their money.

Going forward, when people question whether scrypt.cc is a safe investment, maybe you could acknowledge up-front that you're a gambler and don't regard scrypt.cc as cloud mining, but as a ponzi scam. That would save a lot of time, and might save some people from losing their money.

Yes, I acknowledge I don't regard scrypt.cc as cloud mining,
but as a ponzi scam game, better than casino
Smiley
I also am looking for investments where
(a) I can assess risk and reward, and
(b) the risk/reward ratio is favourable too.
But there is no such investments in the Crypto-Coins world. Not yet.
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September 05, 2015, 12:52:34 PM
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I'm looking for investments where (a) I can assess risk and reward, and (b) the risk/reward ratio is favourable.
Going forward, when people question whether scrypt.cc is a safe investment, maybe you could acknowledge up-front that you're a gambler and don't regard scrypt.cc as cloud mining, but as a ponzi scam. That would save a lot of time, and might save some people from losing their money.

Yes, I acknowledge I don't regard scrypt.cc as cloud mining, but as a ponzi scam game Smiley
I also am looking for investments where
(a) I can assess risk and reward, and
(b) the risk/reward ratio is favourable too.
But there is no such investments in the Crypto-Coins world. Not yet.

It's great that you acknowledge that you shouldn't be promoting scrypt.cc as anything other than a risk. However, your claim that "there is no such investments in the Crypto-Coins world. Not yet." is...

Bullshit. There are plenty of investment opportunities that don't rely on depositing with someone who has scammed you out of 20 BTC. There are plenty of investment opportunities where counter-party risk doesn't entail dealing with someone who - in your own experience - is a scammer. Simply looking at the numbers (total number of exchanges that have failed / total number of BTC exchanges that have existed) shows your bold claim to be bogus. Now consider how many "cloud mining" operations have existed, and how many have been scams. The counter-party risk is clearly far, far, far higher with "cloud mining".

For reference, I'm counting MtGox as the one exchange that has failed (I'm ignoring exchanges that closed but didn't leave customers out-of-pocket). In contrast, this post about cloud mining scams (and how to spot them) has an extensive list of cloud mining operations that have failed, or (in the case of scrypt.cc) are likely to fail soon.

Despite your bold claim, I've made a steady drip of money with swaps on Bitfinex. It's nothing great, it's not going to make me rich, and I would never risk all my BTC at Bitfinex, but it proves to me that there are investments where reward outweighs risk (at this time - I'm not saying you can all trust Bitfinex forever, because - spoiler alert - I'm not a shill). I've also made good money selling binary puts at Coinut (again, I'm not recommending everyone pile in and try this - I've traded options in the past and I'm comfortable managing risk, but it - again - demonstrates that there are investments where risk can be managed).

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September 05, 2015, 12:53:56 PM
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Are only smaller withdraws going through?

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September 05, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
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Yes, I acknowledge I don't regard scrypt.cc as cloud mining,
but as a ponzi scam game, better than casino
Smiley
I also am looking for investments where
(a) I can assess risk and reward, and
(b) the risk/reward ratio is favourable too.
But there is no such investments in the Crypto-Coins world. Not yet.

That is true..........ponzi scam game...............
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September 05, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
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Are only smaller withdraws going through?

Yes onlyyyyyyyyy Smallerrrrr ones get through.....and if and only you areeee super lucky
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September 05, 2015, 01:19:35 PM
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... I've traded options in the past and I'm comfortable managing risk, but it - again - demonstrates that there are investments where risk can be managed.
For me it was a pleasure to chat with you Smiley Smiley Smiley
and to read all your postings here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5169;sa=showPosts;start=620
I started mining than trading much later than you (2011) - since april 2013.

Greetings from Paris. Au plaisir Smiley
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September 05, 2015, 02:27:11 PM
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Received .027 today, but another request of .017 was cancelled. Surprisingly, my auto-invest was not turned back on this time.
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September 05, 2015, 03:25:45 PM
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Are only smaller withdraws going through?

Yes onlyyyyyyyyy Smallerrrrr ones get through.....and if and only you areeee super lucky

False.
I recieved 2 withdraws over 4 BTC.
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September 05, 2015, 03:39:37 PM
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Yes onlyyyyyyyyy Smallerrrrr ones get through.....and if and only you areeee super lucky

False.
I recieved 2 withdraws over 4 BTC.

Got a transaction ID for those two withdraws? You've managed to provide one once before, so I'm confident you (a) know they're expected, and (b) can work out how to provide them!

The withdraws were made from this address: 1Bidh2XFr9JzfXppeZd2cPKpbnJGvqCY4h
A quick look in the blockchain shows thousand of transactions coming from this address.
Lots of withdraws.


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September 05, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
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PSA: scrypt.cc is a scam, most likely of the "ponzi" variety. You will lose your money if you try to "invest" or "play" or whatever you want to call your participation in this shitshow. You've been warned.

More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102560.0

And here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444495.msg12325942#msg12325942



Are only smaller withdraws going through?
Yes onlyyyyyyyyy Smallerrrrr ones get through.....and if and only you areeee super lucky
False. I recieved 2 withdraws over 4 BTC.
ThorSWO is a well known LIAR.
The biggest withdrawal here is 1 BTC:
https://blockchain.info/address/1Bidh2XFr9JzfXppeZd2cPKpbnJGvqCY4h

Thor works for ScryptCC and is withdrawing from users' wallets.

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September 05, 2015, 03:47:00 PM
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TXID well that can be found anonymously in blockchain and it is quite easy to get one and post...with little modifications I guess........
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September 05, 2015, 03:53:31 PM
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TXID well that can be found anonymously in blockchain and it is quite easy to get one and post...with little modifications I guess........

You mean like this one? https://btc.blockr.io/address/info/1Bidh2XFr9JzfXppeZd2cPKpbnJGvqCY4h Wink

Yeah, if there's a very recent 4 BTC transaction from scrypt.cc, that could be "recycled" and we'd have no way of knowing unless the real recipient became aware of this and spoke up.

I see transaction IDs as the minimum standard of evidence required. It's not proof-beyond-doubt, but it's better than an unsubstantiated claim.

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September 05, 2015, 03:54:02 PM
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Are only smaller withdraws going through?
Yes onlyyyyyyyyy Smallerrrrr ones get through.....and if and only you areeee super lucky
False. I recieved 2 withdraws over 4 BTC.
ThorSWO is a notorious LIAR.
The biggest withdrawal here is 1 BTC:
https://blockchain.info/address/1Bidh2XFr9JzfXppeZd2cPKpbnJGvqCY4h

Or are you just a notorious retard? LOL
https://blockchain.info/address/1Bidh2XFr9JzfXppeZd2cPKpbnJGvqCY4h?offset=1200&filter=0
This is the first page of yesterdays withdraws.
Over 1200 transactions and 25 pages on blockchain.
Go skim a little and you'll see for yourself.
Xoxo
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