[ANN] [888] [SCRYPT] OctoCoin ◦ The Power of Eight ◦ Don't Blink

[frameLAlife]

p.p.s if i do make it to vegas somebody is buying me 8 mf'ing beers for contributing such long posts to this board for 6 months. that is all.

[djslick]

again, this idea that "well this guy or that guy wouldn't bet their reputation on it if it wasn't legit" and "many people have done digging and have found this to be a viable investment". so? then show me some proof!

all we have is poor communication, broken promises, and vaporware. it really does reflect the sorry state that this community has reached, that people have obviously invested so much that they HAVE to believe that octocoin will be amazing. you should all be aware of the blinders that you might be wearing because of this fact.

these notions that: "well they haven't shown us anything, but you know, YOU CAN TELL WHEN SOMEONE IS SCAMMING YOU". needs to go out the window. give me a break. you underestimate how many times good people have been made to part with their hard-earned money through the exact same thing in crypto, altcoins especially.

SHOW ME SOMETHING.

when i ask for some evidence of a team working on this, you tell me "they don't respond well to nagativity" well guess what, they don't respond well to positivity too! this is one of the nicest altcoin communities i've ever seen. and what do we get?

what, they fixed a problem with random rewards that should never have even been there in the first place? they did this 5 months ago? we should be thankful for this and consider this the high-water mark of reputable devs? I helped ID the culprit and negotiated (out of my own pocket mind you) some time that the offending pool would stop exploiting the code, but it should never have been an issue in the first place!

(and by the way bholzer, you must have a poor memory, because i was helping octocoin one-on-one with resolving the issue, but thanks for painting me like someone who "wrote them off completely" fucking liar. i've been one of the most supportive members of this community)

Leafcoin had this problem first, which was a clone of Dogecoin, of which the issue cropped up shortly thereafter, and after both of those coins fixed it, THEN octo decides to launch with the EXACT same vulnerability. they could have asked anyone in the know and they could have told them it was a bad idea. it was! and then they fixed it. mazel tov. cleaning up your own shit doesn't earn you points in my book, it only props up the veneer of professionalism that octocoin really wants (needs) to keep holding up.

the problem is that nothing has been done! vaporware! fake products, community being strung along with fake release schedules, NOTHING! we have 2 websites, that's it. i'd say that the community who's come up with custom made glasses has been WAY more transparent and WAY more productive than the octocoin "team". shit we saw photographs of the project, UNHEARD OF.

again PROVE ME WRONG.

don't write back here a bunch of stuff about how this guy says "they're cool man don't worry", or how that guy says: "hey i'm staking my reputation on them, they're obviously the real deal" GET REAL AND SHOW US SOMETHING. stop talking in circles.

[djslick]

"well you've been invested this long, why not hang around and see what happens?" - spoken like a true conman.

"development is hard stuff! you have to do this and that and the other thing, we should ignore the fact that they've produced nothing in over 6 months, cause developing is hard!" - spoken like a true apologist

"i've spoken with these devs personally, and i can tell you, they're the real deal" - spoken like a true traveling snake oil salesman

one lesson i've learned over and over in life, and repeatedly bashed into my head whist in crypto, is don't believe shit that strangers are trying to tell you is real when they offer no proof, when asking them for proof gets them defensive, and when they are personally invested in weather or not i see it as truth.

get real.

[frameLAlife]

Dude, even without seeing the actual products, if you really look into who's backing this and do some research you will see why so many are sticking around. I could care less what the fuck you do. I just know that i'm holding.

if you don't like it, then dump it. nobody is forcing you to be here or buy and hold Octo.

We all wish there was more transparency from the devs, including me, but if you can't figure out why people are staying then you don't need to stay invested in Octo.

I don't have any personal issues with you and you've always seemed like a good enough guy from your posts. I understand your frustration and your opinion but after this I'm not wasting my breath trying to convince you. Sell your coins and move on dude lol.

If I'm wrong, then there are people here that are going to lose a lot more $$$ than the 200,000 Octo I have so fuck it. I have plenty of money invested all over alts, Bitcoin and Bitcoin 2.0. I'll be fine if Octo ends up being a flop.

I can't show you proof from the devs but I can gladly offer you advice to get out.

Seeya.

[syncsam]

DJslick your my favourite  

unfortunately what he is saying is correct. greed leads to tunnel vision which leads to naïvety.  I'm seen this many times in myself when it came to trading (stocks, forex) and in stories from people when they have been conned, what you do is get the mark/s to think about the millions they will bring in and how they will spend it, and then they see but choose to ignore the reality of the situation

[syncsam]

I can't show you proof from the devs but I can gladly offer you advice to get out.

Seeya.

That made me laugh, just because of what I just said about greed and tunnel vision

[frameLAlife]

and i will agree with what you said as far as being one of the most supportive members of this community. i won't go back to read your posts but i do not remember anything really negative or bad from you. so once again, difference of opinion and strategy of investing. that is all. nothing personal.

[kingscrown]

mining this from time to time on multipool

[frameLAlife]

I can't show you proof from the devs but I can gladly offer you advice to get out.

Seeya.

That made me laugh, just because of what I just said about greed and tunnel vision

lol it's true. could it be tunnel vision maybe? do the devs here have issues with communicating and keeping members of this board happy of course. are there any indicators that they have had any way to profit and rip us off? no. really the burden of proof is on anyone who says otherwise. while people may not like the devs methods on many things, including missing timelines then ignoring us, there hasn't been any way for them to dump and profit while we are all left high and dry. the support for that argument just isn't there. i have zero contact with the devs since the first month the coin launched so i have no idea about their methods, reasoning or excuses. i do know that if i were in their position i would try to handle things differently. i just have done enough research and talked with enough other members of this board to know that it's extremely stupid to dump at this point. and scolding the devs does no good. hold, patience, wait. it's risky but so is dumping and missing out based on little to no info that points to a scam and very much emotional responses because the devs aren't doing things the way we would like.

anyways, i personally hope you both stick around but nobody is really going to care if people dump and move on.

oh and when i said advice to get out, i didn't mean like to get out of the convo, or leave the board, i meant to get out of the currency if you aren't comfy holding. def didn't mean for it to come off rude as it sounded lol.

[frameLAlife]

mining this from time to time on multipool

welcome...

[cryptoxx]

Hard to disagree with what djslick is saying. Doesn’t prove anything one way or the other, but I don’t think he’s wrong. I thought the same thing when I heard the millions of lines of code thing. Sounded absurd.

But maybe it’s legit and bholzer’s explanation is right. Even if so, the devs here don’t get the benefit of the doubt when making new claims, at least not in my book. They need to earn the benefit of the doubt. And they haven’t. I don't think they understand that.

It's not like people that have recently discovered 888 are going to come check out this thread, see your huge negative rants, and decide to join this community and support this coin.

If the devs want there to not be negativity in the thread, they need to do something about it. Not say something reassuring for the umpteenth time. They’re in the process of pissing away this once very positive community.

[frameLAlife]

Hard to disagree with what djslick is saying. Doesn’t prove anything one way or the other, but I don’t think he’s wrong. I thought the same thing when I heard the millions of lines of code thing. Sounded absurd.

But maybe it’s legit and bholzer’s explanation is right. Even if so, the devs here don’t get the benefit of the doubt when making new claims, at least not in my book. They need to earn the benefit of the doubt. And they haven’t. I don't think they understand that.

It's not like people that have recently discovered 888 are going to come check out this thread, see your huge negative rants, and decide to join this community and support this coin.

If the devs want there to not be negativity in the thread, they need to do something about it. Not say something reassuring for the umpteenth time. They’re in the process of pissing away this once very positive community.

i'll agree with you on that. the devs interaction, even from one dev, on a normal basis could fix quite a bit. not making timelines and promises and breaking them and disappearing would solve a lot of this. a screen shot of the apps would solve a lot of this.

how about this though, anyone ever stopped to think maybe the devs do this on purpose? i'm not going to go into any reasons why devs would do this but it's a fairly common practice and investment strategy. plenty of other coins have had devs suppress before.

[cryptoxx]

how about this though, anyone ever stopped to think maybe the devs do this on purpose? i'm not going to go into any reasons why devs would do this but it's a fairly common practice and investment strategy. plenty of other coins have had devs suppress before.

Yea. But I think the devs have gone too far. I think it's been too long. I think they've fallen 100% short of their claims too many times.

And my basis for that is not just my opinion, it's the way the community is reacting. We are fed up.

Bholzer asked why we think the devs owe us anything. I think they do because they promised us specific things.

[frameLAlife]

how about this though, anyone ever stopped to think maybe the devs do this on purpose? i'm not going to go into any reasons why devs would do this but it's a fairly common practice and investment strategy. plenty of other coins have had devs suppress before.

Yea. But I think the devs have gone too far. I think it's been too long. I think they've fallen 100% short of their claims too many times.

And my basis for that is not just my opinion, it's the way the community is reacting. We are fed up.

Bholzer asked why we think the devs owe us anything. I think they do because they promised us specific things.

now that i'll agree with. if their intentions were not to really meet deadlines or after they missed the first set of deadline, they shouldn't have continued to string you along. that's a fair assessment.

i agree that the broken promises and the lack of even 1 app being released in beta or at least screenshots or a video that doesn't expose code should have already been released.

in some ways i get fed up with it. but you can't make these decisions based on emotion. the facts are that we have no hard proof either way. it's just as risky to pull out and miss the boat as it is to stay in. specially when you start digging behind the scenes and gathering information.

i can't believe that the devs are incompetent... what i can believe is there is a reason for everything we see here. it's a gamble either way.

[cryptoxx]

i can't believe that the devs are incompetent...

You have more faith than me in these devs.

But with luck you're right.

[frameLAlife]

i can't believe that the devs are incompetent...

You have more faith than me in these devs.

But with luck you're right.

i'm just saying... is it possible? of course. but investors don't just give anyone money. i don't mean us. i mean the ones footing their bills at the moment.

[frameLAlife]

ugh it's late. later guys. i'll be back on tomorrow.

don't forget: sundays conference call. cya.

[frameLAlife]

one last thing:

30,789,495 minted per coinmarketcap.... we are getting awfully close to the 31 million mark.

[djslick]

i like how this is the second time in less than a day that me bringing up real issues about this coin is rebutted with: "well then sell and leave".

what problem solving skills!

"if you really look into who's backing this and do some research you will see why so many are sticking around"

care to share with the masses some of your private insights? what "research" should i be doing that i have not already done? I've been a day 1 backer of this coin, read EVERY single post in this forum, have engaged the devs personally with multiple PMs, and been an active poster. so again, care to tell me what i'm missing?

all i can gleam out of this mess is that everyone is banking on bholzer supposedly having first hand contact with the dev team? that's the closest to any "insights" that anyone has correct? because the devs themselves can't seem to keep their own promises, and with 2 posts in 2 months they are actively ignoring this community. so now it's up to the community to play defense for the devs. again, with absolutely no knowledge of what the hell they're doing.

so again i ask:

SHOW US SOMETHING.

show us anything to PROVE that this is not just one person with one and a half websites and a lot of lip service. again, i'd like to think that it's not, i'd like to think that they're legit, but i haven't SEEN anything to demonstrate it!

get your head out of your ass and observe! you're getting mad at the messenger for observing what's going on. direct it where it needs to be. stop apologizing. stop insinuating that "anyone in the know already knows that octocoin is the shit" without ANY proof to back it up!

tired of all this fanboy lip service bullshit nonsense.

[djslick]

i mean it's just insulting to have been a supporter for so long, and still just be marginalized not just by devs, but members of this very community. really is a sad state of affairs.

so far every single thing that they've alluded to doing behind the scenes cannot be corroborated. this should be a big red flag to any serious investor.

i can make a coin tomorrow, say that i have investors, say that i have a 12 man team, say that we're all industry experts, say that we launched the coin on a virgin galactic flight, say that we're working with banks, stock markets, and the president to have our currency replace fiat worldwide.

i could write a bunch of well-worded posts to give the illusion of activity going on behind closed doors, i could use a lot of tech-talk and execu-speak so that anyone reading my posts will assume that i'm a professional and that i know what i'm doing.

I can do all of this and still not have to provide one shred of evidence for ANY of it except for a logo and 1 and a half websites that could have been made in a weekend by a grad-student.

and i'd surely laugh myself to  sleep every night reading how the community is so hypnotized that they're ostracizing members of their own community whenever a real criticism is raised. the fact is they don't want to see behind the curtain, they want to believe in OZ the great and powerful.

hope is a powerful emotion, as evidenced by those apologizing for these devs. i'll continue to hope that all of this smoke and mirrors will clear and there will be something substantial left standing, but i will not count on it. I've been burned so many fucking times before and it's the same shit every time, period of euphoric elation thinking that there's nowhere to go but up, and then the rug is pulled out beneath your feet. time to wake up.

SHOW US SOMETHING.