[ANN] [888] [SCRYPT] OctoCoin ◦ The Power of Eight ◦ Don't Blink

[frameLAlife]

and i will agree with what you said as far as being one of the most supportive members of this community. i won't go back to read your posts but i do not remember anything really negative or bad from you. so once again, difference of opinion and strategy of investing. that is all. nothing personal.

[kingscrown]

mining this from time to time on multipool

[frameLAlife]

I can't show you proof from the devs but I can gladly offer you advice to get out.

Seeya.

That made me laugh, just because of what I just said about greed and tunnel vision

lol it's true. could it be tunnel vision maybe? do the devs here have issues with communicating and keeping members of this board happy of course. are there any indicators that they have had any way to profit and rip us off? no. really the burden of proof is on anyone who says otherwise. while people may not like the devs methods on many things, including missing timelines then ignoring us, there hasn't been any way for them to dump and profit while we are all left high and dry. the support for that argument just isn't there. i have zero contact with the devs since the first month the coin launched so i have no idea about their methods, reasoning or excuses. i do know that if i were in their position i would try to handle things differently. i just have done enough research and talked with enough other members of this board to know that it's extremely stupid to dump at this point. and scolding the devs does no good. hold, patience, wait. it's risky but so is dumping and missing out based on little to no info that points to a scam and very much emotional responses because the devs aren't doing things the way we would like.

anyways, i personally hope you both stick around but nobody is really going to care if people dump and move on.

oh and when i said advice to get out, i didn't mean like to get out of the convo, or leave the board, i meant to get out of the currency if you aren't comfy holding. def didn't mean for it to come off rude as it sounded lol.

[frameLAlife]

mining this from time to time on multipool

welcome...

[cryptoxx]

Hard to disagree with what djslick is saying. Doesn’t prove anything one way or the other, but I don’t think he’s wrong. I thought the same thing when I heard the millions of lines of code thing. Sounded absurd.

But maybe it’s legit and bholzer’s explanation is right. Even if so, the devs here don’t get the benefit of the doubt when making new claims, at least not in my book. They need to earn the benefit of the doubt. And they haven’t. I don't think they understand that.

It's not like people that have recently discovered 888 are going to come check out this thread, see your huge negative rants, and decide to join this community and support this coin.

If the devs want there to not be negativity in the thread, they need to do something about it. Not say something reassuring for the umpteenth time. They’re in the process of pissing away this once very positive community.

[frameLAlife]

Hard to disagree with what djslick is saying. Doesn’t prove anything one way or the other, but I don’t think he’s wrong. I thought the same thing when I heard the millions of lines of code thing. Sounded absurd.

But maybe it’s legit and bholzer’s explanation is right. Even if so, the devs here don’t get the benefit of the doubt when making new claims, at least not in my book. They need to earn the benefit of the doubt. And they haven’t. I don't think they understand that.

It's not like people that have recently discovered 888 are going to come check out this thread, see your huge negative rants, and decide to join this community and support this coin.

If the devs want there to not be negativity in the thread, they need to do something about it. Not say something reassuring for the umpteenth time. They’re in the process of pissing away this once very positive community.

i'll agree with you on that. the devs interaction, even from one dev, on a normal basis could fix quite a bit. not making timelines and promises and breaking them and disappearing would solve a lot of this. a screen shot of the apps would solve a lot of this.

how about this though, anyone ever stopped to think maybe the devs do this on purpose? i'm not going to go into any reasons why devs would do this but it's a fairly common practice and investment strategy. plenty of other coins have had devs suppress before.

[cryptoxx]

how about this though, anyone ever stopped to think maybe the devs do this on purpose? i'm not going to go into any reasons why devs would do this but it's a fairly common practice and investment strategy. plenty of other coins have had devs suppress before.

Yea. But I think the devs have gone too far. I think it's been too long. I think they've fallen 100% short of their claims too many times.

And my basis for that is not just my opinion, it's the way the community is reacting. We are fed up.

Bholzer asked why we think the devs owe us anything. I think they do because they promised us specific things.

[frameLAlife]

how about this though, anyone ever stopped to think maybe the devs do this on purpose? i'm not going to go into any reasons why devs would do this but it's a fairly common practice and investment strategy. plenty of other coins have had devs suppress before.

Yea. But I think the devs have gone too far. I think it's been too long. I think they've fallen 100% short of their claims too many times.

And my basis for that is not just my opinion, it's the way the community is reacting. We are fed up.

Bholzer asked why we think the devs owe us anything. I think they do because they promised us specific things.

now that i'll agree with. if their intentions were not to really meet deadlines or after they missed the first set of deadline, they shouldn't have continued to string you along. that's a fair assessment.

i agree that the broken promises and the lack of even 1 app being released in beta or at least screenshots or a video that doesn't expose code should have already been released.

in some ways i get fed up with it. but you can't make these decisions based on emotion. the facts are that we have no hard proof either way. it's just as risky to pull out and miss the boat as it is to stay in. specially when you start digging behind the scenes and gathering information.

i can't believe that the devs are incompetent... what i can believe is there is a reason for everything we see here. it's a gamble either way.

[cryptoxx]

i can't believe that the devs are incompetent...

You have more faith than me in these devs.

But with luck you're right.

[frameLAlife]

i can't believe that the devs are incompetent...

You have more faith than me in these devs.

But with luck you're right.

i'm just saying... is it possible? of course. but investors don't just give anyone money. i don't mean us. i mean the ones footing their bills at the moment.

[frameLAlife]

ugh it's late. later guys. i'll be back on tomorrow.

don't forget: sundays conference call. cya.

[frameLAlife]

one last thing:

30,789,495 minted per coinmarketcap.... we are getting awfully close to the 31 million mark.

[djslick]

i like how this is the second time in less than a day that me bringing up real issues about this coin is rebutted with: "well then sell and leave".

what problem solving skills!

"if you really look into who's backing this and do some research you will see why so many are sticking around"

care to share with the masses some of your private insights? what "research" should i be doing that i have not already done? I've been a day 1 backer of this coin, read EVERY single post in this forum, have engaged the devs personally with multiple PMs, and been an active poster. so again, care to tell me what i'm missing?

all i can gleam out of this mess is that everyone is banking on bholzer supposedly having first hand contact with the dev team? that's the closest to any "insights" that anyone has correct? because the devs themselves can't seem to keep their own promises, and with 2 posts in 2 months they are actively ignoring this community. so now it's up to the community to play defense for the devs. again, with absolutely no knowledge of what the hell they're doing.

so again i ask:

SHOW US SOMETHING.

show us anything to PROVE that this is not just one person with one and a half websites and a lot of lip service. again, i'd like to think that it's not, i'd like to think that they're legit, but i haven't SEEN anything to demonstrate it!

get your head out of your ass and observe! you're getting mad at the messenger for observing what's going on. direct it where it needs to be. stop apologizing. stop insinuating that "anyone in the know already knows that octocoin is the shit" without ANY proof to back it up!

tired of all this fanboy lip service bullshit nonsense.

[djslick]

i mean it's just insulting to have been a supporter for so long, and still just be marginalized not just by devs, but members of this very community. really is a sad state of affairs.

so far every single thing that they've alluded to doing behind the scenes cannot be corroborated. this should be a big red flag to any serious investor.

i can make a coin tomorrow, say that i have investors, say that i have a 12 man team, say that we're all industry experts, say that we launched the coin on a virgin galactic flight, say that we're working with banks, stock markets, and the president to have our currency replace fiat worldwide.

i could write a bunch of well-worded posts to give the illusion of activity going on behind closed doors, i could use a lot of tech-talk and execu-speak so that anyone reading my posts will assume that i'm a professional and that i know what i'm doing.

I can do all of this and still not have to provide one shred of evidence for ANY of it except for a logo and 1 and a half websites that could have been made in a weekend by a grad-student.

and i'd surely laugh myself to  sleep every night reading how the community is so hypnotized that they're ostracizing members of their own community whenever a real criticism is raised. the fact is they don't want to see behind the curtain, they want to believe in OZ the great and powerful.

hope is a powerful emotion, as evidenced by those apologizing for these devs. i'll continue to hope that all of this smoke and mirrors will clear and there will be something substantial left standing, but i will not count on it. I've been burned so many fucking times before and it's the same shit every time, period of euphoric elation thinking that there's nowhere to go but up, and then the rug is pulled out beneath your feet. time to wake up.

SHOW US SOMETHING. 

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SHOW US SOMETHING. 

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unfortunately I can't put things as eloquently as djslick, but djslick is spot on

[frameLAlife]

it's not secret insight. it's been discussed in past posts if you go back and read. it's also looking at what you already can see and connecting the dots. it's called google dude. and it's not proof it's just very good speculation.

http://www.allianceofangels.com/

http://www.linkedin.com/in/yijian

https://angel.co/yijianngo

http://www.allianceofangels.com/about/people/

these people just don't give out money and not expect results. and there are other direct links besides what is posted on this board if you do some research.

and in no way am i saying you should leave. i said if you don't want to be invested in octo you should dump and move on. there's nothing wrong with that.

it's your money and time.

if the above is right, it's probably a safer bet than most altcoins.

nobody is marginalizing you. it's just a conversation.

a sad state of affairs would be you dumping and missing the boat if the above is correct.

[frameLAlife]

you're funny and this is pointless. it's just a conversation. not something to be offended by.

[bholzer]

I have to agree some screenshots/video/etc of at least what is currently in development would be beneficial. I understand things not being ready for market but a preview would be a nice gesture (just a suggestion).

[frameLAlife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgfeIJzcl9o

yeah. this dude isn't about some altcoin... this dude is about creating software that they will make a return on. Octo as a whole doesn't appear to be about the coin but i'm assuming the payoff from the coin will be nice depending on what is delivered.

just a hunch.

if these are the people funding the devs they aren't going to risk anything that could cost them like releasing a beta. screenshots or vid would be nice but if they are truly trying something different we shouldn't expect this board to run like every other coin.

frustrating maybe but worth a chance to stick around and see if we are correct.....

there is your OZ....

[frameLAlife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dRLG2LmbiE