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April 17, 2014, 07:30:31 AM |
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April 17, 2014, 08:07:46 AM |
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lol, you know what they say! if everyone is thinking the same then "someone" is not thinking.
Yeah OK... all I need to do is look at ZET... how do those thinking the same folks explain that? ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) I suppose i should know what ZET is and what happened with it...
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April 17, 2014, 08:35:40 AM |
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I suppose i should know what ZET is and what happened with it...
NO... I suppose I should have kept my mouth shut and just let you be a SMART-ASS... sorry for the inconvenience. That would have been way cooler.. lol I gotta bring you to my bears anonymous class.. they just sit there with the im holding my tongue look.. You can learn alot from them. The guy running the meetings told me he thinks the entire market is about to collapse but he doesnt tell the group cause he didnt want to come off as un-treatable!
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April 17, 2014, 09:03:08 AM |
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heavycoin pool simlar to blackcoin pool please, that builds the hype by keeping constant buy pressure. Hype + innovation = win
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April 17, 2014, 09:45:08 AM |
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heavycoin pool simlar to blackcoin pool please, that builds the hype by keeping constant buy pressure. Hype + innovation = win
u want mutipool i can setup but how much hashrate in my pool?
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April 17, 2014, 10:02:57 AM |
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Pool hash rates and minerspool | rate (Mh/s)* | delta*** | % of network | miners** | rate/miner | | payout | http://hvc.1gh.com/ | 37,380.88 | -2,446.11 | 53.85 | | | 1 | RBPPS | http://heavycoin.zhpool.com/ | 32,058.30 | 1,076.50 | 46.18 | 514.4 | 62.32 | 1 | PPLNS | http://heavycoin.miningpoolhub.com/ | 7,165.89 | -960.96 | 10.32 | 39.7 | 180.5 | 1 | PROP | http://hvc.nonce-pool.com/ | 1,062.46 | -314.31 | 1.53 | 48.4 | 21.95 | 1 | PPLNS | https://heavycoinpool.com/ | 0.10 | -0.01 | 0 | 1 | 0.1 | | (shut down) | http://heavy.stablehash.com/ | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | PROP | https://hvc.crunchharder.net/ | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | PPLNS | total | 77,667.63 | -2,644.88 | | | | | | network rate | 69,420 | -8,560 | * due to rate variability displayed through pool statistics pages, rates are based on average of 10 samples over the past hour** miner count for 1gh unavailable*** Delta since last update![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjanUPZG.png&t=665&c=FMg4Pe7O_dfkmw) Block Progression and Pool Luck![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5RiyJSl.png&t=665&c=X9XeEip25iGo8Q) last 24h | 1gh | nonce | zhpool | poolhub | hash avg | 36,243.04 | 963.41 | 31,086.43 | 6,723.07 | blocks | 391 | 11 | 325 | 31 | hash % | 48.31 | 1.28 | 41.44 | 8.96 | blocks % | 51.57 | 1.45 | 42.86 | 4.12 | luck % | 106.70 | 113.00 | 103.40 | 45.90 |
| | | | | | | | | | last 7d | 1gh | nonce | zhpool | poolhub | hash avg | 39,712.35 | 730.56 | 29,085.11 | 7,832.70 | blocks | 2,651 | 48 | 1,914 | 339 | hash % | 51.33 | 0.94 | 37.60 | 10.12 | blocks % | 53.53 | 0.97 | 38.65 | 6.85 | luck % | 104.29 | 102.64 | 102.80 | 67.61 |
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1gh Top statsTop 100 | Mhash/s | | | Top 10 | Mhash/s | Total: | 30,668.32 | | | Total: | 10,820.54 | Mean rate: | 306.68 | | | Mean rate: | 1,082.05 | Median rate: | 177.75 | | | Median rate: | 815.58 | Mode(10) rate: | 110 | | | Mode(100) rate: | 1400 | % of pool: | 82% | | | % of pool: | 28.9% | % of network: | 39.5% | | | % of network: | 13.9% |
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Pool voting![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaSahAuE.png&t=665&c=Zr6PUpIbDp2NVg) Mining (indicative, not authoritative!)payoff per Mhash/s / day | ideal solo | 1gh | nonce | zhpool | poolhub | HVC | 4.90936 | 4.91 | 4.83 | 4.84 | 3.18 | mBTC | 0.10555 | 0.11 | 0.10 | 0.10 | 0.07 | USD | 0.05153 | 0.05 | 0.05 | 0.05 | 0.03 |
| | | | | | | | pool take/day | 1gh | nonce | zhpool | poolhub | HVC | 1,969.31 | 35.66 | 1,421.83 | 251.83 | BTC | 0.04 | 0.00 | 0.03 | 0.01 | USD | 20.67 | 0.37 | 14.92 | 2.64 |
| Based on last 7 days performance and... block reward: HVC520 | mBTC/HVC: 0.0215 | USD/BTC: $488.2
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April 17, 2014, 10:04:33 AM |
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Added a hashrate/miner chart, combined stable/crunch(/hvcpool in the background) into 'other' in all graphs, added weight (size of circle) of votes to the 'votes at pools' chart. Edit: Oh, and if you quote it, please only quote the relevant part to keep the size of your post down ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 17, 2014, 10:42:16 AM |
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heavycoin pool simlar to blackcoin pool please, that builds the hype by keeping constant buy pressure. Hype + innovation = win
u want mutipool i can setup but how much hashrate in my pool? if you build it, they will come.
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April 17, 2014, 10:56:14 AM |
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A question for those of you who have stopped mining HVC.
What coin or multipool did you switch to?
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massiveman
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April 17, 2014, 10:57:42 AM |
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heavycoin pool simlar to blackcoin pool please, that builds the hype by keeping constant buy pressure. Hype + innovation = win
u want mutipool i can setup but how much hashrate in my pool? Yeah man set it up dude, it will create constant HVC buy support, just like the blackcoin pool.
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April 17, 2014, 10:58:48 AM |
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A question for those of you who have stopped mining HVC.
What coin or multipool did you switch to?
I mine blackcoin on their multipool
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April 17, 2014, 11:00:19 AM |
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A question for those of you who have stopped mining HVC.
What coin or multipool did you switch to?
BlackCoin (indirectly through the blackpool).
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April 17, 2014, 11:25:20 AM |
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This coin can be monitored and send alert of price changes in android app Crypto Coins Manager, as like all other coins. Use it for free. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=halfprice.coinmanager
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Best android app for crypto: Crypto Coins Manager All coins, prices, tendencies, price change alerts, favorite coins, mining profitability &much more
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April 17, 2014, 01:04:03 PM |
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Let's not talk the coin down. All the negativity pulls down any goodwill that it has. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yup... HVC is dirt cheap folks!!! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Sadly, without a small adjustment by the devs to the max allowed vote, or a massive change of heart by miners to drop the vote, HVC will stay dirt cheap. Despite a strong effort by a number of HVC faithful to get the vote lower, the downtrend of the vote has reversed course and up it goes. Clearly logic does not trump greed. The events of the past days/week have brought stunning clarity to what will happen to HVC if its value drops and what happens if it rises even a small amount. I am a very outspoken supporter of HVC and will continue to be, but I'm not delusional, something has to change. I know I'm not the first one to say the max vote is too high. I'm sorry but please explain, why do you continue to be a strong supporter? This coin is a MASSIVE FAILURE. It was designed to be GPU proof. A custom HEFTY1 algorithm. Within a week it was GPU hacked, the developer has all but disappeared except for perhaps a few random posts. Keep in mind he made off with over what.... 150BTC from the IPO? Tell me, what have you gotten for all of your hard work, energy, time and lost money? If anyone still supports HVC they ARE delusional. PS. I loved this coins concept and supported it and mined it from day one. But seriously... This ship isn't sinking. It has SUNK. No one will be mining HVC in 3 months. And good luck finding anyone to buy it if you are still holding "to the moon". BTC was designed to be GPU proof, LTC was designed to be GPU proof and despite that at some point GPU's took over but the coins definately havent been a failure. CPU mining is the stupidest thing ever anyway so whine about it ? Only people making money with CPU mining are botnet owners and cloudminers with thousands of Xeons.
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April 17, 2014, 01:20:08 PM |
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Let's not talk the coin down. All the negativity pulls down any goodwill that it has. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yup... HVC is dirt cheap folks!!! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Sadly, without a small adjustment by the devs to the max allowed vote, or a massive change of heart by miners to drop the vote, HVC will stay dirt cheap. Despite a strong effort by a number of HVC faithful to get the vote lower, the downtrend of the vote has reversed course and up it goes. Clearly logic does not trump greed. The events of the past days/week have brought stunning clarity to what will happen to HVC if its value drops and what happens if it rises even a small amount. I am a very outspoken supporter of HVC and will continue to be, but I'm not delusional, something has to change. I know I'm not the first one to say the max vote is too high. I'm sorry but please explain, why do you continue to be a strong supporter? This coin is a MASSIVE FAILURE. It was designed to be GPU proof. A custom HEFTY1 algorithm. Within a week it was GPU hacked, the developer has all but disappeared except for perhaps a few random posts. Keep in mind he made off with over what.... 150BTC from the IPO? Tell me, what have you gotten for all of your hard work, energy, time and lost money? If anyone still supports HVC they ARE delusional. PS. I loved this coins concept and supported it and mined it from day one. But seriously... This ship isn't sinking. It has SUNK. No one will be mining HVC in 3 months. And good luck finding anyone to buy it if you are still holding "to the moon". BTC was designed to be GPU proof, LTC was designed to be GPU proof and despite that at some point GPU's took over but the coins definately havent been a failure. CPU mining is the stupidest thing ever anyway so whine about it ? Only people making money with CPU mining are botnet owners and cloudminers with thousands of Xeons. Actually BTC mining was never designed to be gpu proof, it was foreseen even at early stages specialised mining hardware taking over, ltc was purpoted GPU and ASIC resistant (therefore offering a diversification and safe haven), which it's largely failed at- and some ppl knew this from beginning, artforz et al spring to mind. now it is offering no tangible benefit to BTC at this time. This coin is resistant to huge centralised mining cartels and farms producing own 'shovels' at tiny costs and dumping en-masse dug gold on markets- like KNC, ghash, chinese scrypt ASIC farms etc.
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April 17, 2014, 02:53:01 PM |
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Well, to be honest, no coin is every truly going to be GPU/ASIC proof, as long as it ends up being profitable enough to spin your own CUDA/OpenCL / Hardware for it. You'd have to specifically make use of instructions that are available on CPUs, can't be replicated on GPUs without a severe performance hit, and are cost-prohibitive to spin into an ASIC. Good luck with that.
It would actually be much, much easier to spin an ASIC that does some of the steps needed for the coin, and sell that as a device per person (to the best of one's ability to verify identity) - similar to some copyright protection hardware devices. The only way around those would to bypass it (should be impossible as a critical step in the entire workings of the coin), figuring out what they're doing to the input to get a given output (if designed well, should be next to impossible), or reverse-engineering the actual hardware by decapping, tossing it under a microscope, and figuring out what each part does, with the goal being that by the time people have done so, the mining aspect would be secondary. I don't think people would relish the idea of giving up their anonymity (even if only used for shipping) in order to mine, though.
Otherwise, even if you do figure out a solution to the first part, it's still just going to be people with 1 CPU vs people with networks/farms/botnets.
Right now each of the coins that purport to be GPU/ASIC proof are really just delaying the application of GPUs / ASICs. Still a good thing (less skew), but pretty poor in terms of being a 'solution'.
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April 17, 2014, 03:05:24 PM |
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I'm sorry but please explain, why do you continue to be a strong supporter?
It was designed to be GPU proof. A custom HEFTY1 algorithm. Within a week it was GPU hacked, the developer has all but disappeared except for perhaps a few random posts.
Why I still support HVC? CPU-only, for a moment, ported to GPU and it is 50% lower power consumption than scrypt and your cards run cool. If I am going to expend tangible resources to create an intangible item I want my inputs to be as low as possible. The less I spend on my fixed costs the more profit I make. Almost everyone pays for their power to mine. So, HVC will be more profitable to mine than all other coins at whatever price they happen to be at. We need to slow down the mint phase, drag it out at least a year. Ideally longer. This reduces inflation which is good for value. Scrypt-asics are coming, the effects of which are uncertain at this time, but probably not great for GPU miners. HVC could be the next big coin for those forced out of scrypt mining. The problem is at current rate of mint HVC will be 90% mined in 106 days. Pretty disheartening considering the potential this coin has. Everyone stands to gain so much more with a low block reward. I urge everyone to vote low, but I spam that everywhere, another obnoxious side effect of the vote. I'd love to see the devs lower the max vote, give HVC a longer mint phase trajectory, good for investor confidence. Or the community come together and agree to cap the vote. In the meantime we just keep trying to convert 1024 voters to 1 voters, we are pretty stuck at 550 otherwise. Maybe rolling out that multipool will be beneficial, certainly couldn't hurt. The devs could certainly maintain more of a presence here. It seems a lot of people would appreciate that.
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April 17, 2014, 08:57:51 PM |
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I'm sorry but please explain, why do you continue to be a strong supporter?
It was designed to be GPU proof. A custom HEFTY1 algorithm. Within a week it was GPU hacked, the developer has all but disappeared except for perhaps a few random posts.
Why I still support HVC? CPU-only, for a moment, ported to GPU and it is 50% lower power consumption than scrypt and your cards run cool. If I am going to expend tangible resources to create an intangible item I want my inputs to be as low as possible. The less I spend on my fixed costs the more profit I make. Almost everyone pays for their power to mine. So, HVC will be more profitable to mine than all other coins at whatever price they happen to be at. We need to slow down the mint phase, drag it out at least a year. Ideally longer. This reduces inflation which is good for value. Scrypt-asics are coming, the effects of which are uncertain at this time, but probably not great for GPU miners. HVC could be the next big coin for those forced out of scrypt mining. The problem is at current rate of mint HVC will be 90% mined in 106 days. Pretty disheartening considering the potential this coin has. Everyone stands to gain so much more with a low block reward. I urge everyone to vote low, but I spam that everywhere, another obnoxious side effect of the vote. I'd love to see the devs lower the max vote, give HVC a longer mint phase trajectory, good for investor confidence. Or the community come together and agree to cap the vote. In the meantime we just keep trying to convert 1024 voters to 1 voters, we are pretty stuck at 550 otherwise. Maybe rolling out that multipool will be beneficial, certainly couldn't hurt. The devs could certainly maintain more of a presence here. It seems a lot of people would appreciate that. You still continue this "propaganda" and don't understand that if people aren't able to spend their HVC in other places than exchanges, this coin is going to die. There is no point in mining HVC now, other than dumping. Do you think that voting low is going to get this coin growing? You're wrong.
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April 17, 2014, 08:58:38 PM |
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I am quite happy with the state of HVC right now. I am stocking coins with this low difficulty but also vote 1 to ensure the future. The rise will come when BTC will go nuts. Yes I am a speculative miner ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I really enjoy the cooler mining since summer is starting here, and I think I will never mine scrypt again. I like to invest in coins which differ from the mass. HVC is one of them but of course not the only one.
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April 17, 2014, 09:29:07 PM |
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You still continue this "propaganda" and don't understand that if people aren't able to spend their HVC in other places than exchanges, this coin is going to die. There is no point in mining HVC now, other than dumping. Do you think that voting low is going to get this coin growing? You're wrong.
You are right HVC do not need propaganda but services. Being accepted at coinkite will be a good thing. Acceptance criteria are here : https://coinkite.com/faq/alts. I think HVC match them but it need an equivalent of 25 BTC at current price in HVC (~ 1100 kHVC at current price) Premine + community can surely rise that.
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