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Am really excited about chimaev and diaz fight even thought i think shimaev will be the winner i think it will be a total war they both can take punches and survive we've seen that in shimaev last fight against burns but too bad diaz is not in his top form, if he was it would be even better.
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There's no way the fight goes on with Chimaev missing weight by that much. That's so unprofessional that I didn't even see it coming. Chimaev serious lost respect and possibly his big shot at being the guy in the UFC. The fact he's smiling just shows that it hasn't set in yet how much he just screwed over his career. No doubt Dana White is pissed and already looking for the next big thing to put Chimaev on the mat. It was wrong for Dana to put them up against each other in the first place, so I think this falls in the category of play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
And he is not fighting him at that weight after all. Changes made at the last minute before the ceremonial weigh-ins start. This changes up things tremendously. Especially for the bookies to hurry and make up the odds for each of those new changes to these bouts. Nate bringing lots of men ready to stir a conference had scared Dana that he made changes. The hype still is still alive though. Nate must have been seeking someone else to fight and recently he said in an interview that he wasn't even preparing anymore to fight Khamzat. Would you consider then that the mafia of this sport did give way to upright matches?
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I guess the question now is who is going to win between Diaz and Ferguson? It seems pretty amateurish to change the main event the night before the fight, but this is the UFC... Gotta give them credit for rolling with the punches and putting on a show no matter what happens. I think this is a better matchup for Diaz anyway. After seeing how Chimaev missed weight and still was trying to act like a tough guy, I'm not sure I care about him anymore. Was glad to hear the crowd booing him.
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Because of that Scuffles and Khamzat Chimaev missed weighing maybe in purpose just to fight Kevin Holland it was a last-minute opponent switch and that is why I will also repost my prediction and picks for the UFC 279, it was a crazy thing on what has happened but here are my picks
Nate Diaz VS Tony Ferguson
The Stake odds for this fight are 2.19 for Diaz while 1.77 for Ferguson, Salute to Tony Ferguson for saving the UFC 279 event and saying that it is ok for him to switch opponents, it could surely save a lot of time and money in doing so, but as we all know this fight is undoubted needs to happen and both fighters really wants this fight and Tony Ferguson has done it again that is why Dana White loves this guy he saves another event he didn't need to do this, but for this fight, I am really super excited for this fight I think this could be a close match but both fighters are pretty much great and Diaz is great with boxing so Ferguson will surely have a problem about that but Ferguson has a great elbow that can cut his opponent so this fight might end up in a doctor stoppage kind of thing if Ferguson can cut Nate Diaz, that is but for me my pick will be Tony Ferguson,
Khamzat Chimaev VS Kevin Holland
Stake odds for this fight are 1.19 for Khamzat while 5.60 for Holland, right now this fight is a downgrade for Khamzat he doesn't really need to do this, but he did it on purpose and that is crazy just to fight Kevin Holland, Khamzat is losing the main event slot, and pay per viewpoints hurt his reputation and millions of dollar fighting Diaz, and yeah just because they started a fiasco I think there is nothing to win here, and it was crazy, now prediction for this fight, Kevin Holland also had the same weakness and that is when he was taken down by his opponent for me Khamzat Chimaev has the advantage here, and for Holland to win this he needs to strike Khamzat harder to the point he could make him knockout before he could be taken on a takedown, because if Khamzat do it will be like the fight with Jingliang that power from Khamzat is surely why he is in the advantage so my pick will be Khamzat Chimaev but I am not betting for this one,
Jingliang Li VS Daniel Rodriguez
The Stake odds for this fight are 2.32 for Jingliang while 1.70 for Rodriguez, after that switch, Li Jingliang pretty much badly wants that Ferguson fight, but after that switch, Jingliang is now at a disadvantage because of this and I really feel sorry for Jingliang and I hope the UFC will compensate him somehow his opponent Daniel Rodriguez is fighting a catchweight against Kevin Holland and switching that fight Jingliang is on a disadvantage but he still took this fight just for UFC 279 to continue, but man I wish Jingliang should get his compensation he lost a superstar of an opponent that is Ferguson, but because of this I think Daniel Rodriguez has the skill and boxing wise Rodriguez have the skill even though Li has the punching power, but technicality, I bent towards Daniel Rodriguez, and added up his weight for me my pick is Daniel Rodriguez,
Johnny Walker VS Ion Cutelaba
The stake odds for this fight are 2.75 for Walker while 1.52 for Cutelaba, Last fight for Cutelaba was against Ryan Spann and it was not really great for Cutelaba I thought he is winning but that guillotine choke was truly remarkable and a controversial stoppage against Magomed Ankalaev, for this fight Ion Cutelaba is truly remarkable but for me, I like Jhonny Walker because I love his antics I think if he can utilize those feints with the striking more gracefully and on time I think he can win against Cutelaba, last fight that I have seen was more on Feinting than hitting because he can surely go with his corners plan, but if he can capitalize those feint on his striking then he can surely win this,
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Nate bringing lots of men ready to stir a conference had scared Dana that he made changes. The hype still is still alive though. Nate must have been seeking someone else to fight and recently he said in an interview that he wasn't even preparing anymore to fight Khamzat.
Would you consider then that the mafia of this sport did give way to upright matches?
No, it was all planned by Khamzat this way in purposefully missing weight. It is just that simple. He didn't want to fight Diaz in the first place and neither did Diaz for possibly the last fight of his career and all UFC fans didn't want him to go out like this, as a punk of the sport. With Khamzat starting a brawl in the back with Holland it was looking like he wanted to fight him instead so hence the missing weight by a large amount. Just watch this conference interview with Holland 2 days ago, way before all this nonsense occurred and you decide if this wasn't all planned and setup before weigh-ins at the 4 minute mark of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFssCA-Ui0wThey had a beef well before the confrontation happened and altercations ensued. I guess the question now is who is going to win between Diaz and Ferguson? It seems pretty amateurish to change the main event the night before the fight, but this is the UFC... Gotta give them credit for rolling with the punches and putting on a show no matter what happens. I think this is a better matchup for Diaz anyway. After seeing how Chimaev missed weight and still was trying to act like a tough guy, I'm not sure I care about him anymore. Was glad to hear the crowd booing him.
This is all better for both fighters as Diaz vs Ferguson is the main event now and Khamzat gets somebody who he wanted to fight and actually will be a challenge for him and not get run through. One video I watched a couple of hours after the changes were announced mentioned how each fighter will get paid more in the end for this anyways. So it works out for everyone including the real reason to do it, for the fans who are paying for these new bouts in their pay per views.
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Or it was all staged by UFC. On the video Holland said, that he has entered Chimaev a free beard cut. Maybe it was just a joke, maybe a strange way to show that he is better. Anyway that was mentioned as a reason that started conflict backstage. I think UFC did that in purpose, because if Nate finds out Chimaev weighs more than needed, he is stronger, experienced, then Nate could just drop that fight, because he would understand that UFC turned him into dead man walking. That is why UFC made that situation and mixed all the fights. A lot of respect for Holland, as he has accepted Chimaev (hope he was not forced), and respect to everyone else, because they were preparing for different opponents.
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I guess the question now is who is going to win between Diaz and Ferguson?
I don't know, much better match up. Both have a good chance, and I think it's going to be an absolute war. I think I'd favour Diaz somewhat for the submissions, but both of these guys are incredibly durable, so who knows. Going the distance might be the bet to make, but I wouldn't even be confident on that due to both of these having good submissions, and obviously the volume that both put out means anyone could have their lights switched off at any moment. Honestly, I think I'll avoid that fight on my bet slip just seems too close to call for me.
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Because of that Scuffles and Khamzat Chimaev missed weighing maybe in purpose just to fight Kevin Holland it was a last-minute opponent switch and that is why I will also repost my prediction and picks for the UFC 279, it was a crazy thing on what has happened but here are my picks
Nate Diaz VS Tony Ferguson
The Stake odds for this fight are 2.19 for Diaz while 1.77 for Ferguson, Salute to Tony Ferguson for saving the UFC 279 event and saying that it is ok for him to switch opponents, it could surely save a lot of time and money in doing so, but as we all know this fight is undoubted needs to happen and both fighters really wants this fight and Tony Ferguson has done it again that is why Dana White loves this guy he saves another event he didn't need to do this, but for this fight, I am really super excited for this fight I think this could be a close match but both fighters are pretty much great and Diaz is great with boxing so Ferguson will surely have a problem about that but Ferguson has a great elbow that can cut his opponent so this fight might end up in a doctor stoppage kind of thing if Ferguson can cut Nate Diaz, that is but for me my pick will be Tony Ferguson,
Khamzat Chimaev VS Kevin Holland
Stake odds for this fight are 1.19 for Khamzat while 5.60 for Holland, right now this fight is a downgrade for Khamzat he doesn't really need to do this, but he did it on purpose and that is crazy just to fight Kevin Holland, Khamzat is losing the main event slot, and pay per viewpoints hurt his reputation and millions of dollar fighting Diaz, and yeah just because they started a fiasco I think there is nothing to win here, and it was crazy, now prediction for this fight, Kevin Holland also had the same weakness and that is when he was taken down by his opponent for me Khamzat Chimaev has the advantage here, and for Holland to win this he needs to strike Khamzat harder to the point he could make him knockout before he could be taken on a takedown, because if Khamzat do it will be like the fight with Jingliang that power from Khamzat is surely why he is in the advantage so my pick will be Khamzat Chimaev but I am not betting for this one,
Jingliang Li VS Daniel Rodriguez
The Stake odds for this fight are 2.32 for Jingliang while 1.70 for Rodriguez, after that switch, Li Jingliang pretty much badly wants that Ferguson fight, but after that switch, Jingliang is now at a disadvantage because of this and I really feel sorry for Jingliang and I hope the UFC will compensate him somehow his opponent Daniel Rodriguez is fighting a catchweight against Kevin Holland and switching that fight Jingliang is on a disadvantage but he still took this fight just for UFC 279 to continue, but man I wish Jingliang should get his compensation he lost a superstar of an opponent that is Ferguson, but because of this I think Daniel Rodriguez has the skill and boxing wise Rodriguez have the skill even though Li has the punching power, but technicality, I bent towards Daniel Rodriguez, and added up his weight for me my pick is Daniel Rodriguez,
Johnny Walker VS Ion Cutelaba
The stake odds for this fight are 2.75 for Walker while 1.52 for Cutelaba, Last fight for Cutelaba was against Ryan Spann and it was not really great for Cutelaba I thought he is winning but that guillotine choke was truly remarkable and a controversial stoppage against Magomed Ankalaev, for this fight Ion Cutelaba is truly remarkable but for me, I like Jhonny Walker because I love his antics I think if he can utilize those feints with the striking more gracefully and on time I think he can win against Cutelaba, last fight that I have seen was more on Feinting than hitting because he can surely go with his corners plan, but if he can capitalize those feint on his striking then he can surely win this,
I'm surprised the books lined Ferguson the slightt favorite here. I thought it would be a flip of the odds with Nate Diaz the slight favorite. The line is moving towards Diaz tho. Ferguson is now 1.81 at Stake and it could move more come fight day as there are lots of Diaz fans who want to pour money on him. Lol. And Ferguson did look good against Chandler at R1 but then that kick to the face happened at R2. :/ As for Li vs D Rod, dunno... I kinda like Li as the underdog here. Li has been around the block and could be a rough one for Rodriguez.
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No, it was all planned by Khamzat this way in purposefully missing weight. It is just that simple. He didn't want to fight Diaz in the first place and neither did Diaz for possibly the last fight of his career and all UFC fans didn't want him to go out like this, as a punk of the sport. With Khamzat starting a brawl in the back with Holland it was looking like he wanted to fight him instead so hence the missing weight by a large amount. Just watch this conference interview with Holland 2 days ago, way before all this nonsense occurred and you decide if this wasn't all planned and setup before weigh-ins at the 4 minute mark of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFssCA-Ui0wThey had a beef well before the confrontation happened and altercations ensued. Khamzat Chimaev doesn't really want what this guy is saying so he set it all up even though he would lose a good fight in his career, but for Khamzat Chimaev he doesn't care about the money all he wants right now is to fight Kevin Holland and we can see from this Khamzat Chimaev Interview that he is not saying it directly and he wants to fight everybody so maybe we can see a special match between him and Paulo Costa in the future, and I think what he trying to say here is he wants to fight everybody that wants to fuck with him, and in the latest face-off now they are booing Khamzat Chimaev, maybe I think they have seen how a rebel Khamzat can be if he doesn't want that fight he will do anything to change it, but I guess Nate Diaz is pretty much lucky on this now I think he got a chance of winning against Ferguson, Or it was all staged by UFC. On the video Holland said, that he has entered Chimaev a free beard cut. Maybe it was just a joke, maybe a strange way to show that he is better. Anyway that was mentioned as a reason that started conflict backstage. I think UFC did that in purpose, because if Nate finds out Chimaev weighs more than needed, he is stronger, experienced, then Nate could just drop that fight, because he would understand that UFC turned him into dead man walking. That is why UFC made that situation and mixed all the fights. A lot of respect for Holland, as he has accepted Chimaev (hope he was not forced), and respect to everyone else, because they were preparing for different opponents.
I really don't know if this is all stage up by the UFC and if they do they should give compensation for fighters that leveled down on the rank of fighters they will fighting and basically a different weight cuts, especially the fight with Jingliang VS Rodriguez I think it is not fair for Li Jingliang expecting a fight against Ferguson and has shifted his fight for Daniel Rodriguez I think Khamzat Chimaev is the one that needs to blame for all this commotion, maybe this is set-up by him and he doesn't really want to fight Nate Diaz not because he is afraid of him but to get Kevin Holland for himself,
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I dont believe Chimaev did not do weight. He is at the gym 24/7. And he did not do 3kg (or how much was it?)? He could have cut his beards, really. I think he has so many guys with him, that they could easily help him to cut extra weight. And Khamzat, even if it would be dangerous, would cut weight, die and then revive on Sunday.
Now Khamzat got a present fron UFC. Extra pay for fighting different opponent, “good” weight and Holland that told that he does not know how to wrestle and is there just for cheque.
I am glad Nate has a better opponent - Ferguson. Those two have almost identical chances to win. God there are going to be so many slaps in their fight.
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I really don't know if this is all stage up by the UFC and if they do they should give compensation for fighters that leveled down on the rank of fighters they will fighting and basically a different weight cuts, especially the fight with Jingliang VS Rodriguez I think it is not fair for Li Jingliang expecting a fight against Ferguson and has shifted his fight for Daniel Rodriguez I think Khamzat Chimaev is the one that needs to blame for all this commotion, maybe this is set-up by him and he doesn't really want to fight Nate Diaz not because he is afraid of him but to get Kevin Holland for himself, They are all in this together in such a short notice, they all deserve the respect as non of them prepared to fight someone else. Holland really step up against Khamzat made him such a bad ass but I doubt he would win. They were all looking up to this fight with enough time to fix their weight and they are telling us that Khamzat didn't make it? That guy will last a week without eating and can still knockout a cow. I can only see all these are rearranged by someone bigger than Dana.
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Chimaev caused a total mess and I think he deserved to be pulled of this card, but that would ruin all training camp effort of his opponent. I think we are going to see lot of surprises after this shakeup and switch with main and co-main event, so will see who is better prepared for this. Just checking the odds on Sportsbet and I like the odds on Nate Diaz to win against Ferguson, and I think Holland can take one round from Chimaev. https://sportsbet.io/sports/mma/ufc/ufc-279-chimaev-vs-diaz/matches
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I dont believe Chimaev did not do weight. He is at the gym 24/7. And he did not do 3kg (or how much was it?)? He could have cut his beards, really. I think he has so many guys with him, that they could easily help him to cut extra weight. And Khamzat, even if it would be dangerous, would cut weight, die and then revive on Sunday.
Now Khamzat got a present fron UFC. Extra pay for fighting different opponent, “good” weight and Holland that told that he does not know how to wrestle and is there just for cheque.
I am glad Nate has a better opponent - Ferguson. Those two have almost identical chances to win. God there are going to be so many slaps in their fight.
I find it hard to believe that Chimaev could have screwed up his big shot so badly. It's not like he didn't know a week ahead of time that he wasn't going to make weight... It smells a bit of conspiracy. I find it easier to believe that they both wanted different opponents and hatched this scheme to pull a fast one on Dana. Even the backstage fight could have been to help sell the scheme. Chimaev seems set for an easy victory. I'm not so sure about Nate. I never think he's going to win though so maybe he'll surprise again. I think my money is going on Chimaev, even though he pretty much ruined this UFC event with his lack of professionalism. He's the new UFC heel.
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Irene Aldana vs. Macy Chiasson - That money shot on the liver, just wow.
Li Jingliang vs Danial Rodriguez - The fight was close but I didn't know there's a cooking show from the judges, I give 1 round to Li Jingliang by 1 point, 2nd round to Li Jingliang and 3rd round to Danial Rodriguez obviously he has more significant strikes than Li.
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Chimaev seems set for an easy victory.
That took all of 2 minutes. An easy win for some easy winnings... Lame that Chimaev had such an easy fight. I think things would have been different with Nate. I usually don't bet fight events, but that Chimaev opponent even came out and said he had no wrestling skills whatsoever and was just there for a paycheck. I think that's probably the easiest gambling win I've ever had. Those two should have never been in the ring together and it's a shame that Chimaev was rewarded with an easier opponent for missing weight.
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They are all in this together in such a short notice, they all deserve the respect as non of them prepared to fight someone else. Holland really step up against Khamzat made him such a bad ass but I doubt he would win.
They were all looking up to this fight with enough time to fix their weight and they are telling us that Khamzat didn't make it? That guy will last a week without eating and can still knockout a cow. I can only see all these are rearranged by someone bigger than Dana.
We don't really have proof but it could be it was really all arranged for this fight because that fiasco backstage there are several people brawling or maybe not because I don't really see a video about it, or it could be controlled by someone, but it is still OK because I think this is a good match up both Nate and Tony got some same vibes on them and they could surely be a close match but there can only be one winner, and right now Nate Diaz really win it, Well, you can tell on Khamzat Chimaev's face that he purposely missed that weight, and giving a medical condition excuse is just an alibi so he can not cut weight anymore because he is surely preparing for Kevin Holland after all, Here are the results for my picks for the UFC 279 Nate Diaz VS Tony Ferguson ROUND 4 SUBMISSION - LOSTIn the 1st round, you can see that they are just getting their opening for their opponent and both fighters are really enjoying themselves you can see on Tony's smirk that he surely likes his opponent but Ferguson has cut his shin and you can see gushes of blood pouring, pretty much Ferguson is losing blood so much, Nate Diaz won the 1st and 2nd round but Ferguson retaliate on the 3rd round, both fighters are really technical and they can surely see each other's movements than on the 4th round Ferguson decision to get the takedown but Nate Diaz have caught him and goes to a guillotine choke that Ferguson taps, here is the scorecard for this fight, Khamzat Chimaev VS Kevin Holland ROUND 1 SUBMISSION - WINThere are too many red suits, guys, inside the ring, knowing that these two have recently had brawls backstage, then at the start of the round Chimaev has gone for a takedown where Holland's weakness is you can immediately see that Holland is struggling and Khamzat power is tremendously controlling Kevin Holland you can instantly see the difference in strength and if the Nate Diaz fight would happen you can instantly see that Nate Diaz will surely suffer the same faith as Holland, and Man that amount of pressure to Holland that he instantly tap, and after that, I think Holland will surely think twice before upsetting Chimaev, that is why it was an instant submission win for Chimaev, Jingliang Li VS Daniel Rodriguez ROUND 3 DECISION - WINBoth can surely brawl I thought that Li Jingliang have won the fight but he didn't Daniel Rodriguez landed many shots on Jingliang even though Li Jingliang takedown Rodriguez it wasn't fairly enough it was really a close match and rounds 1 and 2 goes for Rodriguez while the 3rd round goes for Jingliang, here is the scorecard for reference and because the fight ends up in a decision, Johnny Walker VS Ion Cutelaba ROUND 1 SUBMISSION - WINI really never doubt Johnny Walker and right now he seems like a different fighter inside the ring he has said that it was because of the crowd that gave him the drive to fight, he was very calm on the ground and patiently waiting for Cutelaba to make mistakes and then the 1st round was the opening for him to put that rear naked choke on Cutelaba, and just like the Khamzat and Holland fight it was on the 1st round,
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Nate Diaz VS Tony Ferguson
What a great fight between a couple of UFC veterans. I was really happy for Nate Diaz and seeing him end his career in a flexing pose while his opponent submitted is about as good of a way to end it as I've seen in professional fighting. I look forward to seeing him get his payday by being the next Jake Paul opponent and was glad to see the kid from Stockton go out on top. I had to put my money on the Chimaev fight, but for those who went with Nate... Congrats!
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That took all of 2 minutes. An easy win for some easy winnings... Lame that Chimaev had such an easy fight. I think things would have been different with Nate. I usually don't bet fight events, but that Chimaev opponent even came out and said he had no wrestling skills whatsoever and was just there for a paycheck. I think that's probably the easiest gambling win I've ever had. Those two should have never been in the ring together and it's a shame that Chimaev was rewarded with an easier opponent for missing weight.
Many good fighters will refuse to accept to fight Chimaev for such short time replacement since they don't have enough time to prepare. I'd say many fighters on UFC are really good in punch and kick, but they're lack of wrestler and ground skills, that's what Chimaev really good in. Why does Chimaev want to move to the next weight? I think he can fight against Edwards, this might a good chance to win considering Edwards haven't proving if he's really deserve the belt since he haven't defending his belt for multiple times.
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That took all of 2 minutes. An easy win for some easy winnings... Lame that Chimaev had such an easy fight. I think things would have been different with Nate. I usually don't bet fight events, but that Chimaev opponent even came out and said he had no wrestling skills whatsoever and was just there for a paycheck. I think that's probably the easiest gambling win I've ever had. Those two should have never been in the ring together and it's a shame that Chimaev was rewarded with an easier opponent for missing weight.
Many good fighters will refuse to accept to fight Chimaev for such short time replacement since they don't have enough time to prepare. I'd say many fighters on UFC are really good in punch and kick, but they're lack of wrestler and ground skills, that's what Chimaev really good in. Why does Chimaev want to move to the next weight? I think he can fight against Edwards, this might a good chance to win considering Edwards haven't proving if he's really deserve the belt since he haven't defending his belt for multiple times. It might have the same result if it was Diaz vs Chimaev, Nate will still be dominated almost the same way. Chimaev will ignore how good a fighter is and regardless of how good Nate's BJJ is, Chimaev will bring the fight to wrestling and then end up submitting his opponent. This time Nate is saved. It's a good thing for Nate to get out from UFC with a win. Congrats graceful exit.
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Holland gets paid so he doesn't care, he's that type of fighter. The Collier vs Barrett was probably the most entertaining fight outside the main event for me. Those boys went for it, and alright there was hardly any technique in those shots, but at least they went there to put on a show.
Nate pretty much outclassed Fergusson on the night. Although Fergusson definitely did have success with those lead leg kicks, which he should've done a bit more of. There was a time in the fight where Diaz's leg collapses underneath him, obviously in typical Diaz fashion he shrugged it off, but it was obvious that the leg was compromised. Not sure if Fergusson saw that or not.
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