🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[leea-1334]

There are plenty of sites that could help you to start, and if you are familiar with MMA then I think you should start familiarizing their style and look for the UFC Rankings so you can see who is on the top and who will be the number 1 contender,

Alex Pereira is a no ranked, to begin with, and it is Sean Stricklands' fault for giving him a fight because Sean Strickland lost to Alex Pereira, Pereira will be landing in a sweet spot on the ranking, but not that much, and he will be needing more fights to get to the Champion Israel Adesanya, he is still starting his career in the UFC I think he still needs to prove himself, but he has gained Performance of the Night award by knocking Strickland on the 1st round, so there is that,

No, I don't think he deserves a title shot yet. He defeated a top ten middleweight but he'll have to do more than a 3-fight win streak. Maybe a fight with Whittaker or Vettori first before Adesanya. BUT all matches ultimately depends on Dana. If he's happy about a fighter and the guy is easily marketable, he might give him a chance faster than the others. At the end of the day, it's still about who can bring in more crowd and pay for gate/PPV.

Thank you! It is true there are a lot of sites but I have a hard time understanding what to follow. For example this Pereira Israel fight is a sure thing or not at all, depending on the site you visit. And now I am reading Khamzat is more likely as Pereira's next one.

So about this, what rank should a fighter be to get a shot at the title holder?

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[Welsh]

So about this, what rank should a fighter be to get a shot at the title holder?

Top five at the very least. However, most of the time the second ranked fighter has already taken a shot at the champion, and lost. So, it would make sense if future contenders go through them first. I'm happy with top five, but I'm much more comfortable with top three being allowed a shot at the title. Anything below that, and it starts to get a little bit weird, like Conor.

Title shot should be earned, but should be given to anyone that's deserving. Sometimes fighters don't get that chance despite putting on good shows, and working their way up.

[TopTort777]

Thank you! It is true there are a lot of sites but I have a hard time understanding what to follow. For example this Pereira Israel fight is a sure thing or not at all, depending on the site you visit. And now I am reading Khamzat is more likely as Pereira's next one.

So about this, what rank should a fighter be to get a shot at the title holder?

Alex Pereira should first have 2-3 fights against top15 fighters to be able to have a title fight. Or lets say in more simple words - make a series of 5-8 straight wins and you will among first contestants for a title fight.

As to Khamzat and Pereira, Khamzan is in the different weight division. It is unlikely they will fight. First of all, because Khamzat aims for a title fight in welterweight. Second - you probably have seen a tweet or something like that where Khamzat challenges Pereira. Khamzat is such a guy that challenges everyone He is ready to fight two Ngannou at once So Khamzat vs Pereira is fake.

[Welsh]

He is ready to fight two Ngannou at once So Khamzat vs Pereira is fake.

Plus, a terrible match up unless Khamzat wants to stand up, and bang. I'd like to see it, but honestly I kind of want to see Pereira vs Izzy just because of their history, and I think it might just make Izzy become a little more active. He'll want to prove people wrong about being knocked out, and therefore might step on the gas a little more.

I know I said top five or top three, but in certain circumstances I can understand pushing them there sooner. This case is one of them I think. I don't think Pereira would be a dominant champion if he did win it, and quite frankly he most definitely has holes in his game as of right now, which have been exposed slightly in past fights.

Maybe, in this case it's what the division needs.

[Bttzed03]

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It is true there are a lot of sites but I have a hard time understanding what to follow.

Don't worry too much about these speculations from all websites. The official match will be announced months before the event anyway. Dana once said not to take what you read on social media, about potential fights, seriously because what's being discussed behind closed doors is usually different from what's written. Not the exact words but something to that effect.

You can also ignore all the betting odds on Adesanya vs. Pereira that's posted all over MMA pages recently.

[Road21Bitcoin]

Thank you! It is true there are a lot of sites but I have a hard time understanding what to follow. For example this Pereira Israel fight is a sure thing or not at all, depending on the site you visit. And now I am reading Khamzat is more likely as Pereira's next one.

So about this, what rank should a fighter be to get a shot at the title holder?

Alex Pereira should first have 2-3 fights against top15 fighters to be able to have a title fight. Or lets say in more simple words - make a series of 5-8 straight wins and you will among first contestants for a title fight.

As to Khamzat and Pereira, Khamzan is in the different weight division. It is unlikely they will fight. First of all, because Khamzat aims for a title fight in welterweight. Second - you probably have seen a tweet or something like that where Khamzat challenges Pereira. Khamzat is such a guy that challenges everyone He is ready to fight two Ngannou at once So Khamzat vs Pereira is fake.

For me Alex Pereira has already earned his ticket for the Middleweight Championship like Michael Chandler he deserves it also. And I know the majority of the fans want this fight to be set as soon as possible, hopingly this 4th quarter of the year.

For the record:

MMA Record: 6 wins (5 KOs) 1 Loss
Professional Kickboxing Record: 33 wins (21 KOs), 7 losses (2 KOs)

[tokeweed]

So about this, what rank should a fighter be to get a shot at the title holder?

Top five at the very least. However, most of the time the second ranked fighter has already taken a shot at the champion, and lost. So, it would make sense if future contenders go through them first. I'm happy with top five, but I'm much more comfortable with top three being allowed a shot at the title. Anything below that, and it starts to get a little bit weird, like Conor.

Title shot should be earned, but should be given to anyone that's deserving. Sometimes fighters don't get that chance despite putting on good shows, and working their way up.

But the thing with 185 is Adesanya already has beaten all comers.  The UFC must update the rankings a few hours ago.  Top 5 in order are:

Whitaker
Cannoier
Vettori
Brunson
Costa

All of these guys got beat by Adesanya.

...  Pereira is given no. 6 spot after beating Strickland who was at no. 4.  Not sure why Pereira wasn't given the no. 4 spot but I'd like to see him go next or go against the winner of Whitaker vs Vettori next month.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/658602-ufc-fight-night-robert-the-reaper-whittaker-vs-marvin-the-italian-dream-vettori

[leea-1334]

@ Bttzed03 thanks yes, betting odds is what made me really confused about Israel/Pereira. I will ignore now

@ TopTort777 Khamzat Pereira fake,,, I am almost thinking now this UFC media is worse than Italian transfer news for football. Everything is so unreliable  

@ Welsh This is probably the most helpful for me, top ranked versus top ranked. I guess that means before Pereira gets his chance, others before him deserve their chance first and Cannonier already did, and could not win,,, so next chances to the top ranked.

I am getting there to understanding!

[notblox1]

I'm a Izzy fan, but I'd like to see him take a little more risks. I mean, he claimed he didn't care about holding the belt, and wanted to style on his opponents, but we didn't see any of that. So, just words from him I think.

You need two to tango and Cannonier with his team wanted to slow down pace, this was their tactics but he lost all rounds.
Adesanya said that this was his off night and you can't expect him to perform like fighting machine in all of his fights.
Didn't Izzy take greatest risk not long ago when he made light-heavyweight division excursion with Blachowitcz?

Look at Volk, held a belt for a while now, but still is exciting, and takes calculated risks. I want to see Izzy do that, because when he puts pressure on he's one of the best. Think about the Gastelum fight, he was forced to take risks, and it was a lot more entertaining than we've seen recently.

Sure, Volkanovski had a great night and he even broken his arm in second round, but you can't say that every his fight was like this.
I think that many MMAN fans are acting like spoiled kids, like they complained about Aleksandar Rakic in past.

Pereira is given no. 6 spot after beating Strickland who was at no. 4.  Not sure why Pereira wasn't given the no. 4 spot but I'd like to see him go next or go against the winner of Whitaker vs Vettori next month.

I listened Adesanya interview and he is already asking for Pereira fight next, so his rankings doesn't matter very much if they make some deal with Dana White approval.

[Inwestour]

They weighed the same, the day before. That's how it works across most fighting sports. However, due to the way they weight cut, i.e mostly waters. On the day you're going to see some fighters gain their mass back rather quickly, and therefore will be heavier than the day before.

Now, there's been criticism of this in the past, but the only way you're going to stop this is by weighing them before they step in the cage. However, that presents new problems like, bad weight cuts causing the fighters to be drained before actually fighting, since they'd be fighting like a hour after they finished cutting, more cancelled fights or fighters losing their purse, and quite frankly wouldn't earn the UFC as many money since they wouldn't get double the viewers, since a lot of people tune into the weigh ins. Thus, they make more sponsorship money.

So, to answer your question in short; It's impossible to prevent a fighter from cutting so much that he weighs the same as his opponent the day before the fight, but ultimately is heavier on the day.

I understand this, in the end the champion must do this, win all fights. Max had chances to win in the second fight, but he has bad discipline, he sometimes does rash things.

Volkanovski deserves to be a champion, I see that his statistical achievements are already being compared with those of Khabib, he really did well and deserved it.

[buwaytress]

Not really active with UFC but had quite a number of good picks lately, both predicting and betting, funny what you find yourself doing waiting for footie to resume.

I see Welsh, notblox, and tokes, you're more active here than in football these days?

Right. This weekend, saw 2 or 3 clear favourites in this selection (for me this means odds better than 14/10). If there's anything I've learnt in sports with no draws, especially if on decision or sudden death (KO), 15/10 to 18/10 are simply not good enough odds.

The second thing I learnt also is that I'm shite at UFC so don't take my advice That's why I'm here for yours --  who's the best to back for an upset?

[TopTort777]

I would like to point out, that Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone, after a loss to Jim Miller on UFC 276, announced his retirement. This was a long awaited decision, which Cerrone made after a sixth loss in a row.

I listened Adesanya interview and he is already asking for Pereira fight next, so his rankings doesn't matter very much if they make some deal with Dana White approval.

Costa and Vettori are inactive for quite a good period of time. I think they will thrown on Pereira first. It looks to early for Pereira to have a title fight. He has only one fight against someone from top15. Havent seen Kelvin Gastelum recently. Maybe he will be the one to test Pereira (lose and be released )

[YuginKadoya]

I'm a Izzy fan, but I'd like to see him take a little more risks. I mean, he claimed he didn't care about holding the belt, and wanted to style on his opponents, but we didn't see any of that. So, just words from him I think.

Look at Volk, held a belt for a while now, but still is exciting, and takes calculated risks. I want to see Izzy do that, because when he puts pressure on he's one of the best. Think about the Gastelum fight, he was forced to take risks, and it was a lot more entertaining than we've seen recently.

I guess I'm just getting bored of seeing him play it safe just to keep the belt. The division was already getting stale, but him point fighting doesn't really help. I can't blame him exactly, I mean the longer he holds it, the more money, and legacy he builds. I'm just talking from a fans point of view, and considering the excitement factor which Izzy is quickly losing.

I am a fan of Israel Adesanya aswell, and you are right he is not taking the risk anymore, and just playing safe in all of his fights, although he surely always wins the fans are not really satisfied with the way he won the fight the fans are missing that KO and TKO win of Israel Adesanya if he is reading most of his fans comment about his fight being boring I think he should consider that, and if he is leaping to another division I think the fans will not believe that he can have a decent fight like his Jan Blachowics fight I think he needs to prove total domination throughout his fight as Alexis Volkanovski did to Holloway, I think Max Holloway will humble himself and will not have a hard time anymore that he really lost to Volkanovski that Alexis is in a new level than him, I think Israel Adesanya need to win in a more risky way,

Thank you! It is true there are a lot of sites but I have a hard time understanding what to follow. For example this Pereira Israel fight is a sure thing or not at all, depending on the site you visit. And now I am reading Khamzat is more likely as Pereira's next one.

So about this, what rank should a fighter be to get a shot at the title holder?

You just need to familiarize yourself with all of the sites you will need and if you don't have knowledge about a certain fighter just research and look up what style the fighter is using watch some highlights, was some training, and look at the fighter stats will surely help you a lot, at first you would simply not have any knowledge on some terms or fighter but given some good and informative site will likely get to you advantage,

The Israel Adesanya fight will have to wait and it doesn't mean that Pereira defeated Strickland that is number 4 on the ranking will now likely have a title fight match, Alex Pereira will need to climb up a ladder, to face Issy, and for Khamzat Chimaev Is in the Welterweight Division by challenging Alex Pereira he would need to go up a division and that is the Middleweight division, surely that will be a great fight t watch but also it is not yet verified if a fight will surely progress,

I would like to point out, that Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone, after a loss to Jim Miller on UFC 276, announced his retirement. This was a long awaited decision, which Cerrone made after a sixth loss in a row.

I surely waited for his retirement, and I think that is a good decision in his life he can now have free time with his family, and heal himself from the stress that the fights have given him, and many fans are wondering when will the Cowboy retired and they surely got their answer,

Costa and Vettori are inactive for quite a good period of time. I think they will thrown on Pereira first. It looks to early for Pereira to have a title fight. He has only one fight against someone from top15. Havent seen Kelvin Gastelum recently. Maybe he will be the one to test Pereira (lose and be released )

Costa and Vettori will need to be relevant again, and I miss the fact when they are fighting each other Vettori did a great job, but in my opinion, Alex Pereira will surely have a quick beating on these two, sorry for all Costa and Vettori fans there because I think their level is not decent for Pereira 

[TopTort777]

Costa and Vettori are inactive for quite a good period of time. I think they will thrown on Pereira first. It looks to early for Pereira to have a title fight. He has only one fight against someone from top15. Havent seen Kelvin Gastelum recently. Maybe he will be the one to test Pereira (lose and be released )

Costa and Vettori will need to be relevant again, and I miss the fact when they are fighting each other Vettori did a great job, but in my opinion, Alex Pereira will surely have a quick beating on these two, sorry for all Costa and Vettori fans there because I think their level is not decent for Pereira 

Only if wrestling and ground game are not mumbo jumbo for Pereira. I believe that he can out strike Vettori, I bet his is better than Costa in stance. But what if Costa wont be having a hangover and decided to prove his BJJ black belt skills. What if Costa wont be that dumb to figure out who is better in striking (however he holds a record of 11 KO among 13 wins) and show his BJJ technics that he is so proud of (the moment when he threw white belt into Adesanya).

[tokeweed]

Pereira is given no. 6 spot after beating Strickland who was at no. 4.  Not sure why Pereira wasn't given the no. 4 spot but I'd like to see him go next or go against the winner of Whitaker vs Vettori next month.

I listened Adesanya interview and he is already asking for Pereira fight next, so his rankings doesn't matter very much if they make some deal with Dana White approval.

Oh cool.  And yeah from a business perspective it makes sense for the UFC and Adesanya.  Adesanya has been recycling the competition.  And pretty sure no fan would want to watch him fight anybody in the top 5 again.  I think there are some guys who are hesitant about Pereira getting a title shot.  But really it's time to get some new blood in there.

Here's my lottery ticket for the next event.    Won three of them last week.  Yippeee.  Hoping to get lucky again.

Nurmagomedov - Borralo at 1.97
Add:  Fiziev - Mullarky - Lawrence at 6.71
Add:  Shev - Brundage
Add:  Nzechukwu - Vanderaa - Pickett at 92.35
Add:  Zahabi Nunes at 517.41

And here's the Multi Master.

UFC on ESPN 39 Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405301.0

[Welsh]

Don't get me wrong, Izzy has pretty much beat everyone that he can in his division. I was worried about Costa a while ago, but he provided himself decisively in that fight. I want to see Izzy styling on his opponents, because he's very capable of it.

Alex might be able to pressure that out of him, here's to hoping anyway. Anyway, for this weekend I'm probably going to give it a miss from a betting perspective. I'll still get my picks out closer to the date, but I'm really not fancying many of the fighters, and while the card might turn out to be a banger, I'm not overly familiar with everyone on it. 

[notblox1]

I see Welsh, notblox, and tokes, you're more active here than in football these days?

I am active in both of them, UFC with other MMA events when they are available, and I had good results with South American leagues recently.
Sometimes I even play on eSports during this dry season time

That's why I'm here for yours --  who's the best to back for an upset?

I can make mistakes so don't listen my predictions blindly, but I like betting more on underdogs in UFC, or special events and fights going to distance or not.
For next UFC event I am still not sure for all fights, but I think that Said Nurmagomedov vs Silva de Andrade won't go to distance and Nurmagomedov should win.
Odds in co-main event are decent on Caio Borralho and I think he is going to win, with his big reach advantage.
In prelims Kennedy Nzechukwu should win and odds are nice on him, but so far I can't find any underdog for potential upset.

[tokeweed]

^  RDA could upset Fiziev imho.  Fiziev slows down around the third round while RDA has fought 5 rounds of MMA a few times.  I still pick Fiziev tho.

Don't get me wrong, Izzy has pretty much beat everyone that he can in his division. I was worried about Costa a while ago, but he provided himself decisively in that fight. I want to see Izzy styling on his opponents, because he's very capable of it.

Alex might be able to pressure that out of him, here's to hoping anyway. Anyway, for this weekend I'm probably going to give it a miss from a betting perspective. I'll still get my picks out closer to the date, but I'm really not fancying many of the fighters, and while the card might turn out to be a banger, I'm not overly familiar with everyone on it.  

Against Pereira, I fear for Adesanya tbh.  The Pereira guy has serious powerrr in those hands.  But yeah...  It isn't just about Pereira to pressure Adesanya into going all out vs him.  I mean after how Adesanya's last match turned out, he'll def be pressured to perform.  And he could get starched.  ;/

As for the next event, I like the main, the co main, the co co main and the opening match between Lawrence and Kakhramonov.

[karabiber]

Jorge Masvidal. This man is a complete lunatic. I was expecting him to go crazy with the start of the fight but after his very fast knockout, my eyes almost popped out. He loves the show. He will have the fastest knockout even if he doesn't win another fight. I don't think we'll ever see such a quick knockout again. I will never forget this fight.

[Welsh]

I see Welsh, notblox, and tokes, you're more active here than in football these days?

I watch the UFC every weekend, and this thread isn't congested by loads of people trying to earn money, talking about random things. Usually, it's confined to betting, and discussion around certain fighters, where I find the football threads here tend to deviate a lot. Although, it's also off season for football, I don't watch internationals, and only watch the Premier League, so when that starts back up, I'll be involved a bit more again.

Against Pereira, I fear for Adesanya tbh.  The Pereira guy has serious powerrr in those hands.  But yeah...  It isn't just about Pereira to pressure Adesanya into going all out vs him.  I mean after how Adesanya's last match turned out, he'll def be pressured to perform.  And he could get starched.  ;/

Izzy will likely out point him, just like in their kick boxing matches, it was almost domination in terms of point fighting, but Alex has that power. They don't call him stone hands for nothing. Man can punch, and we need that threat, but also that rivalry to really wake up Izzy. His style of fighting gets him the wins, although the one with Whittaker recently was very close, but ultimately it doesn't entertain the fans.