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May 12, 2022, 09:01:43 AM
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Yeah but for now let's focus on the title fight in the light heavyweight championship between Texeira vs Jiri. Do you think this event will be #andstill or #andnew? The interesting thing about this fight is that they are both quite far apart in age and Texeira is the oldest champion in UFC history but we all know age is also a factor in a fight. And Jiri is known as a great knockout artist.
I think Prochazka has more advantages rather than Texeira since Texeira with his current ages is more slower than before. Prime Prochazka is aggressive and fast, if Texeira a bit late to see a kick from Prochazka, knock out might be happen. Texeira need to play more calm and ground is his best friend since his main style is Jiu jitsu, Prochazka need to play distance since his main style is Muay thai.

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May 12, 2022, 09:22:27 AM
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Has anyone also seen this? Someone minted a rare El Cucuy Bored Ape hehehe.




This is pure gold. I mean, it's all good clean fun. Especially with what's happening in the market right now, we better laugh XD

If it's Makhachev vs somebody, it has to be against Dariush. Anything besides that makes no sense and he should go directly to Oliveira. If it was up to me (and it's not XD), I wouldn't go for a fight between two of the top contenders (for the sake of the division) but rather do Makhachev vs Oliveira and Chandler vs Dariush. In that way, we get another fight after that with the losers of both fights fighting themselves as well as the winners. Or we go with Makhachev vs Daiush with the winner going to Oliveira and the loser going to Chandler, but then if Dariush loses to Makhachev and wins against Chandler we might not get another Makhachev / Dariush fight right away so I still think the first option is the better one.

For now Makachev has a lot of options about his opponent. But to think Makachev vs Charles in the next event I think it's difficult because now Charles is not a lightweight champion. Possibly are the vacant tittle is a fight between Makachev and some fighters from the top contenders. And it looks like Conor McGregor is can be the next opponent of Makachev because fighting against The Notorius its like getting  jackpot.

He might not be a champ on paper, but he sure ain't the paper champ Smiley What I am trying to say, is that he has still some bargaining leverage, and in some regards is still considered the champ, or at least the top dog.


Yup that was the UFC's original plan for Makhachev.  And as I already said in another post, they were supposed to fight last Feb but Dariush got an ankle injury during his training camp.  Makhachev was offered Rafael Dos Anjos as a replacement but Makhachev didn't bite.  He would've won that match up and we'd see him vs Oliveira prolly around October.  The UFC is still hell bent to have Makhachev vs Dariush tho so everything still hangs in the balance with Dariush's ankle.  Lol.


It's good he didn't bite for RDA. It could very well be a bad outcome for him and he would just get pushed back.

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May 12, 2022, 12:29:11 PM
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^  Dos Anjos is def one of the best guys in the sport but I think Makhachev could've won it easily since Dos Anjos was getting in on short notice and and he's not getting any younger.  He's like 37 years old now or something.  Makhachev on the other hand is one of the most talented fighters in the roster who's in his prime.  But I guess yeah..  A tune up fight vs a grappler in Dariush is the more prudent decision.

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May 12, 2022, 01:50:46 PM
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For now Makachev has a lot of options about his opponent. But to think Makachev vs Charles in the next event I think it's difficult because now Charles is not a lightweight champion. Possibly are the vacant tittle is a fight between Makachev and some fighters from the top contenders. And it looks like Conor McGregor is can be the next opponent of Makachev because fighting against The Notorius its like getting  jackpot.

It's a jackpot for Islam Makhachev to fight Conor McGregor we all know how Khabib Nurmagomenodov defeated the Notorious, if Conor McGregor still wouldn't have any defense for the Dagestan Wrestling then this is checkmate for Makhachev, it will be a great event if they will make a Charles Oliveira VS Islam Makhachev instead, but I think Dana White will not let Conor McGregor fight Islam Makhachev just yet, instead, it may be a fight between Islam Makhachev VS Dustin Poirier or Beneil Dariush, and because Michael Chandler recently fought Tony Ferguson, and Justin Gaethje have fought Charles Oliveira I think this is the only route available for the UFC to settle,

It was a good fight while it lasted, we just need someone who can knock out Olivera with one punch, because the guy is definitely chinny, but he has that fallback where he can take his guard, and that's defensive enough for most fighters to either not engage or get choked out due to his superior ground game.

Maybe not chinny, but... In Russian we have say it "does not have a steel rod/bar" meaning a person bends when there are troubles (I dont know how to say it properly in English, maybe there is an idiom for that case). When Oliveira was younger, he used to tap or surrender, when everyone thought he could continue fighting. He gets hurt, and stops fighting, instead ref stops the fight.

Oliveira neglects defence and get punched hard. If he really was chinny, then he would not survive Poirier and Gaethji bombs.

Definitely, Charles Oliveira had a durable chin that he surely used all the time but in time that durability will whither, and like the Korean Zombie, he will now need to move his head from approaching punches, I guess he would need to still parry or evade those strikes in the future, well everyone will not be champion forever and everyone is aware that everybody has a limit in which he is doing those things,

^  Dos Anjos is def one of the best guys in the sport but I think Makhachev could've won it easily since Dos Anjos was getting in on short notice and and he's not getting any younger.  He's like 37 years old now or something.  Makhachev on the other hand is one of the most talented fighters in the roster who's in his prime.  But I guess yeah..  A tune up fight vs a grappler in Dariush is the more prudent decision.

It will be an easy kill for Islam Makhachev he doesn't bit the fight, in my opinion, it is not worth his time he only wants to go further up in my opinion and fighting worthy opponent is what I like for him to take, but don't get me wrong I don't really intent RDA as not a worthy opponent but for Islam Makhachev it will be an easy task that is why it is good he didn't take that fight,



And those fighting kittens are ready for me to watch, Amanda Ribas and Andrea Lee, I will surely feast my eyes on those two while sipping some beer, so good luck with their fight.
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May 12, 2022, 02:26:22 PM
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And it looks like Conor McGregor is can be the next opponent of Makachev because fighting against The Notorius its like getting  jackpot.

Wasnt Conor saying that he was preparing for a fight in next weight division ? To welterweight. That is wants to a title fight against Usman. Recent McGregor pictures shows that he is bulking right now. However, Usman was mentioning something about his boxing fight against Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (and every one was laughing about Usmans boxing training video). Canelo at first was walking with his nose up, saying that Usman is not his level, but after taking beating from Dmitri Bivol, will be chasing Bivol for a rematch (which makes fight Usman vs Canelo likely not to happen).

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May 12, 2022, 06:35:59 PM
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^  Dos Anjos is def one of the best guys in the sport but I think Makhachev could've won it easily since Dos Anjos was getting in on short notice and and he's not getting any younger.  He's like 37 years old now or something.  Makhachev on the other hand is one of the most talented fighters in the roster who's in his prime.  But I guess yeah..  A tune up fight vs a grappler in Dariush is the more prudent decision.

I get what you are saying, but RDA's 40+ fight experience vs Makhachev's 20+ fights has to account for something, also the caliber of fighters he went up against (win or lose) as well as actually going to a decision with Khabib back in 2014. So Makhachev winning easily? He definitely would be a favorite, but I wouldn't really go for an automatic easy win. RDA is still somewhat relevant as a gatekeeper.

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May 12, 2022, 10:20:01 PM
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He might not be a champ on paper, but he sure ain't the paper champ Smiley What I am trying to say, is that he has still some bargaining leverage, and in some regards is still considered the champ, or at least the top dog.
Tony Ferguson has become the gate keeper of the division and that is the only leverage he has right now.

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I get what you are saying, but RDA's 40+ fight experience vs Makhachev's 20+ fights has to account for something, also the caliber of fighters he went up against (win or lose) as well as actually going to a decision with Khabib back in 2014. So Makhachev winning easily? He definitely would be a favorite, but I wouldn't really go for an automatic easy win. RDA is still somewhat relevant as a gatekeeper.
Islam Makhachev is the right opponent right now to face Charles Oliveira as the belt is vacant and i hope they will book that fight as i consider this as the best match up right now and i am curious to see whether Islam Makhachev can overcome the submission game of Charles Oliveira.

I feel the same hype when Khabib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson were supposed to fight.
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May 12, 2022, 10:55:49 PM
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Tony Ferguson has become the gate keeper of the division and that is the only leverage he has right now.
Which to be honest, I'm quite alright with. I think he's a challenge for those looking to break into the top half of the division, and he'll likely go to war with quite a few up, and coming prospects. So, I'm all for it. I know there was a lot of people saying he's probably done, and I'll be honest I did consider it myself, but the thing that we didn't get chance to see is how much he has left in that ol' gas tank of his, because early doors he was really putting it to Chandler.

I think anyone looking to break into the top five, needs to go through an absolute war that only certain fighters like Tony can bring.
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Wasnt Conor saying that he was preparing for a fight in next weight division ? To welterweight. That is wants to a title fight against Usman. Recent McGregor pictures shows that he is bulking right now.
Bulking for what?
Conor McGregor is done fighting, and all he is doing now is prolonging his time and doing last promotion for his whiskey business and ufc.
Dana is justing using hims to squize last bit of popularity he once had, so they can both earn more money from this deal.
I am not interested to watch any of his fight in future.

Andrew Yang wrote about UFC few days ago and he once again repeated how fighters are underpaid compared to all major sports, and he is proposing some kind of WWE and UFC union.
UFC fighters get 10 - 15% of revenue, and for other major sports it’s 50%, that means fighters should be paid 3 to 5 times more!
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May 13, 2022, 12:16:42 AM
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I am not interested to watch any of his fight in future.
I am. If we vintage Conor back then it spices up the whole division. To be honest, his last fight with Poirier didn't look all that bad, and while he may have lost the round he still managed to buzz Poirier. The snapped ankle kind of takes away from it, as everyone just remembers the beat down at the end of the round.

However, I don't think Conor is washed up, and I do think he'll start finding some form. He just needs to get in that cage, and not go against one of the top three. I'd say top five is a push. He'll likely beat everyone outside of that, and then the fans will start getting on his side again.

The issue with Conor is his name brings a lot of weight, so previously he was able to get massive fights, without actually putting in much of the work, and not fighting enough to be in decent shape. You know what I mean? I think once he gets a few fights under his belt, removes that rustiness we've got a serious fighter on our hands again.

Plus, why wouldn't I want to see that. Conor is easily one of the most entertaining fighters when on form.
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Wasnt Conor saying that he was preparing for a fight in next weight division ? To welterweight. That is wants to a title fight against Usman. Recent McGregor pictures shows that he is bulking right now. However, Usman was mentioning something about his boxing fight against Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (and every one was laughing about Usmans boxing training video). Canelo at first was walking with his nose up, saying that Usman is not his level, but after taking beating from Dmitri Bivol, will be chasing Bivol for a rematch (which makes fight Usman vs Canelo likely not to happen).

Now that you mention it, I suddenly remember Usman did grants, Conor McGregor, a title shot, and he will go up a division, by doing so, but Conor McGregor is still in the Lightweight Division and in the rank 9 so basically, he still can decide if he's going to go up or still choose to pursue a Lightweight belt now that it is vacay, well it is still up to Conor McGregor to decide, but Kamaru Usman did give him a go signal,


I get what you are saying, but RDA's 40+ fight experience vs Makhachev's 20+ fights has to account for something, also the caliber of fighters he went up against (win or lose) as well as actually going to a decision with Khabib back in 2014. So Makhachev winning easily? He definitely would be a favorite, but I wouldn't really go for an automatic easy win. RDA is still somewhat relevant as a gatekeeper.

I really get what you are trying to say, yes Rafael Dos Anjos can be a gatekeeper has the experience, and the willpower to win but Khabib Nurmadomenodov is different from Islam Makhachev, and the way Rafael Dos Anjos fight now is a bit different from the fought Nurmagomenodov, if we look on their previous fight and the way Dos Anjos fights now, I think his age has an impact him in what he is doing, and a 37 years old is pretty much have a toll to some extent of his body, that is why he doesn't have the great wins anymore most of it was a decision, while Makhachev is really something to the extent that I am still seeing how Islam Makhachev will win this match if it continued,

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Wasnt Conor saying that he was preparing for a fight in next weight division ? To welterweight. That is wants to a title fight against Usman. Recent McGregor pictures shows that he is bulking right now.
Bulking for what?
Conor McGregor is done fighting, and all he is doing now is prolonging his time and doing last promotion for his whiskey business and ufc.
Dana is justing using hims to squize last bit of popularity he once had, so they can both earn more money from this deal.
I am not interested to watch any of his fight in future.


“I believe versus Usman for the 170-pound title for my comeback is the one I’m eyeballing at the minute. And I feel confident against Usman. A jab happy, sloppy, orthodox wrestler with no submissions whatsoever. What’s he gonna do? Where’s the danger here? I don’t see a danger with him.”

Dana White in some of his interview also told that a fight between Usman and McGregor would be interesting. That does not mean that UFC is organizing this fight. But who know, when  talks turn into money direction, anything can happen. Like Dana said, every Conor fight means big money. Give Usman millions and he would accept to fight Conor next second.

P.S. Conor has sold his proper twelve shares, so he is no longer promoting whiskey. Instead, he has got a pub Cheesy

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May 13, 2022, 09:33:42 AM
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I'm probably going to miss this weekend due to other plans, so I won't be making any bets. I'll likely just include some of my predictions, and leave it at that. I don't tend to bet on the UFC unless I'm actually going to be able to watch it. Good looking event, but if you're going to miss any event, it'll probably be this one. So, not overly disappointed. Not sure if that's my first event missed of the year. I did fall asleep on one a few weeks back though.

P.S. Conor has sold his proper twelve shares, so he is no longer promoting whiskey. Instead, he has got a pub Cheesy
Does that mean I no longer have to watch that silly little walk he does on every single proper 12 advert? You know what, I still haven't tried it. I've been put off by a lot of people saying it tastes awful. Isn't it at a similar price point to ol' Jack?
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I'm probably going to miss this weekend due to other plans, so I won't be making any bets. I'll likely just include some of my predictions, and leave it at that. I don't tend to bet on the UFC unless I'm actually going to be able to watch it. Good looking event, but if you're going to miss any event, it'll probably be this one. So, not overly disappointed. Not sure if that's my first event missed of the year. I did fall asleep on one a few weeks back though.

P.S. Conor has sold his proper twelve shares, so he is no longer promoting whiskey. Instead, he has got a pub Cheesy
Does that mean I no longer have to watch that silly little walk he does on every single proper 12 advert? You know what, I still haven't tried it. I've been put off by a lot of people saying it tastes awful. Isn't it at a similar price point to ol' Jack?

You can have a rest till UFC 275 that will be on June 11 (two title fights). Events before that, I call them as fillers. There will be some good matches, but whole events wont be worth watching from begging till end.

I think you will still have to suffer and watch Conor in Proper twelve ads, but the amount of him will be lower imho. About the taste - I have tried it and I would say it does not worth asked price. At my place, a bottle of Proper twelve cost 35+ Euro. For that price, you can get a better 12 y.o single malt whiskey. Like basic Glenmorangie or Glenfiddich. But to pay for a blend that cost as a single malt, that is an absurd.

P.S. Jack Daniels cost 24-26 Euro for 0.7l. Often there are discounts, and you can get it for 20 Euro.
P.P.S. I've seen many time he has used his Proper 12 as an ingredient for cocktails. He even promoted one of them. I think it was proper punch. That is blasphemy. I accept whiskey only in snifters Cheesy Use 35+ euro blend for a cocktails, most probably with coca-cola. Waste of money. Use cheapest blend instead and there will be difference.

Conor is now into being a pub owner. That is the place for chill, as he does not plan to earn from it (and compared to his earnings from fights and ads, the amount of profit pub brings is laughable).

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May 13, 2022, 12:45:14 PM
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You can have a rest till UFC 275 that will be on June 11 (two title fights). Events before that, I call them as fillers. There will be some good matches, but whole events wont be worth watching from begging till end.
I don't usually like missing events, I pretty much watch them all. I've just got other plans, otherwise I would have been watching it. Won't be missing the following weeks, however I'm definitely looking forward to June 11, and will be putting some money aside to put some cheeky little bets on.

I think you will still have to suffer and watch Conor in Proper twelve ads, but the amount of him will be lower imho. About the taste - I have tried it and I would say it does not worth asked price. At my place, a bottle of Proper twelve cost 35+ Euro. For that price, you can get a better 12 y.o single malt whiskey. Like basic Glenmorangie or Glenfiddich. But to pay for a blend that cost as a single malt, that is an absurd.

P.S. Jack Daniels cost 24-26 Euro for 0.7l. Often there are discounts, and you can get it for 20 Euro.
I only ever drink Jack on a pinch really. I'm more a fan of Woodford reserve, Jura, and some Glenfiddich. Also, Lagavulin has my once a year bottle. There's a few others, but those are the ones I tend to go to. I might try Proper 12 despite the claims.

Yeah, Jack is good if you tend to drink with the UFC events since it's pretty cheap. I didn't realise Proper 12 was that expensive though.
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I only ever drink Jack on a pinch really. I'm more a fan of Woodford reserve, Jura, and some Glenfiddich. Also, Lagavulin has my once a year bottle. There's a few others, but those are the ones I tend to go to. I might try Proper 12 despite the claims.

Yeah, Jack is good if you tend to drink with the UFC events since it's pretty cheap. I didn't realise Proper 12 was that expensive though.

These are from different leagues. If you havent tasted Proper 12, then I suggest you not to spoil your receptors, evening, plans or whatever you like with it. You wont find anything in it (many people find its taste close to Jameson or it bites neck just a bit more than Jameson). Besides, all cheap or not expensive blends are more or less identical. And Proper 12 is one of them, you just pay 50% more for McGregor everytime you buy it Cheesy

But as a UFC fan, if you have action figures, posters or other merch, then I would buy this bottle and put it on a stand close to them. Personally, I would not got on purpose to buy Proper 12.

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I think Prochazka has more advantages rather than Texeira since Texeira with his current ages is more slower than before. Prime Prochazka is aggressive and fast, if Texeira a bit late to see a kick from Prochazka, knock out might be happen. Texeira need to play more calm and ground is his best friend since his main style is Jiu jitsu, Prochazka need to play distance since his main style is Muay thai.

Yep!
Even though he is currently 43 years old, but because Texeira is a Brazilian jiu jitsu artist, it is an advantage for him. Many fighters with standing martial artists can no longer succeed at the age of over 40. But the problem is that the opponent he will face is Jiri Prochazka, a rising star who has shown an impressive performances in his previous fights.

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May 13, 2022, 01:56:04 PM
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^  Dos Anjos is def one of the best guys in the sport but I think Makhachev could've won it easily since Dos Anjos was getting in on short notice and and he's not getting any younger.  He's like 37 years old now or something.  Makhachev on the other hand is one of the most talented fighters in the roster who's in his prime.  But I guess yeah..  A tune up fight vs a grappler in Dariush is the more prudent decision.

I get what you are saying, but RDA's 40+ fight experience vs Makhachev's 20+ fights has to account for something, also the caliber of fighters he went up against (win or lose) as well as actually going to a decision with Khabib back in 2014. So Makhachev winning easily? He definitely would be a favorite, but I wouldn't really go for an automatic easy win. RDA is still somewhat relevant as a gatekeeper.

Mmm..  Thinking about it more after reading your post, yeah I guess you're right.  It won't be a walk in the park for Makhachev but it won't be a close fight either.  Maybe it's not gonna end with a finish but it could be 30 - 27 across the board.  Maybe...  I'm prolly suffering from recency bias cos he won so quick vs Bobby Green and Dan Hooker which were really fights his opponents took on short notice.

Anyway...  Who you guys got?  You guys saw my lottery ticket.  Feel free to critique.  I am open to all your suggestions.

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May 13, 2022, 02:11:25 PM
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I think Prochazka has more advantages rather than Texeira since Texeira with his current ages is more slower than before. Prime Prochazka is aggressive and fast, if Texeira a bit late to see a kick from Prochazka, knock out might be happen. Texeira need to play more calm and ground is his best friend since his main style is Jiu jitsu, Prochazka need to play distance since his main style is Muay thai.

Yep!
Even though he is currently 43 years old, but because Texeira is a Brazilian jiu jitsu artist, it is an advantage for him. Many fighters with standing martial artists can no longer succeed at the age of over 40. But the problem is that the opponent he will face is Jiri Prochazka, a rising star who has shown an impressive performances in his previous fights.

It is astounding that old man Glover Teixeira still manage to compete at the highest level. But even if Texeira retains his belt after this fight, I really doubt it will stay for long. He is just too old and some of these younger guys will catch him soon.

The most exciting match up in this card should be the rematch between Zhang Weili and Joanna Jedredyyaufdesjcyk. But I don't like Joanna being inactive for two years. I am still hoping for an upset.

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May 13, 2022, 03:42:33 PM
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I definitely won't be missing the 21st of May event. One of my favourite fighters Michel Pereira is fighting. Probably one of the most entertaining fighters in the UFC, and while I'll admit he does gas out, he's always entertaining up until that point. Honestly, he's gifted, and if he didn't do as much jumping around as he did, he would probably win more fights. Since, he does tend to win most of the rounds up until he gasses out. I still remember that jump onto the top of the cage, and then back flipping off, and finishing it off by tagging his opponent. Just incredible stuff.

I'll get my predictions out in the next few hours, still need to look at a few of the fights.
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