Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[JSRAW]

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Group system seems good solution imo. Reposting old discussion.

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Ind-Pak are not going to play so they might end up playing with only SENA countries in this system.

Guess we discussed this topic couple of times here, anyway IMO it would be better if they could divide teams into 2 group according to their ranking. As of now we have 12 tests playing nations.

Group A  : Top 1-6 ranking team
Group B  : Bottom 7-12 ranking team

It could be a great option because in that way the lower teams will also have the chance of moving forward to the next stage.

But, I am also doubtful about this. because it seems like whatever is done, test cricket might not just get back the popularity that it once had.
it doesn't obviously look like a good idea but when there are no other ideas, the bad idea becomes a great idea.

Plus it also address the prominent problem of "Dead rubber- One sided matches".

Unfortunately in T-20 era there is no perfect solution to revive the Test cricket. Every system has a flow and if you are hesitant to adapt to the new realities then you deserve to die or best you can do is sit in the corner and swear at everyone ( like blaming T-20 format).


Why Pakistan, why? You had one job!!

[laurenB7742]

^^^ To be honest, I don't think test cricket is going to get back its popularity anymore. yes obviously experiments can be done but I really doubt that people are going to be interested in test cricket again after watching T20 action.

Test cricket is just too old-fashioned. and the new kid in town(T20) is stealing the show. I really think the draw system in Test cricket should be withdrawn but I don't know how it can be done.

[LittleBitFunny]

England   vs   West Indies

The pitch of the match between England vs West Indies is definitely a bowling pitch. England was able to collect 204 runs on this pitch. It was a good enough collection. Because, after England lost 7 wickets for just 67 runs, no one would think that England team would be able to collect more than 200.

West Indies now collect 128 runs. And they lost 6 wickets. Mayers scored 24 runs, Da Silva scored 6 runs off 36 balls. If these two wickets can be taken, maybe the innings of West Indies will end quickly. I don't think the West Indies can do more than 160.

[coinism]

England   vs   West Indies

The pitch of the match between England vs West Indies is definitely a bowling pitch. England was able to collect 204 runs on this pitch. It was a good enough collection. Because, after England lost 7 wickets for just 67 runs, no one would think that England team would be able to collect more than 200.

West Indies now collect 128 runs. And they lost 6 wickets. Mayers scored 24 runs, Da Silva scored 6 runs off 36 balls. If these two wickets can be taken, maybe the innings of West Indies will end quickly. I don't think the West Indies can do more than 160.

17 wickets have fallen so far and second days play is in progress. West Indies after doing so good in ODI are not up to the mark in test. In current test they are still 74 runs short of England first innings small total of 204. Nothing noticeable in West Indies batting so far. Chris Woakes and Ben tokes will be satisfied with there bowling after disappointing Ashes.

[minairia3]

England   vs   West Indies

The pitch of the match between England vs West Indies is definitely a bowling pitch. England was able to collect 204 runs on this pitch. It was a good enough collection. Because, after England lost 7 wickets for just 67 runs, no one would think that England team would be able to collect more than 200.

West Indies now collect 128 runs. And they lost 6 wickets. Mayers scored 24 runs, Da Silva scored 6 runs off 36 balls. If these two wickets can be taken, maybe the innings of West Indies will end quickly. I don't think the West Indies can do more than 160.

West Indies have scored 134 runs of the loss of 7 wickets right now. And this pitch is obviously a bowling pitch.

West Indies are still trailing by 70 runs. and it seems like they are not going to be able to take a lead.
I think they are going to be bowled out before that.

In my opinion, these are the type of test matches I like to enjoy because I  really like to say batsmen working hard for their runs Instead of just getting free runs.

[Maidak]

Why Pakistan, why? You had one job!!

I was really surprised to see that Australia won the match against Pakistan. I thought Pakistan had a really good chance of winning that match but Australia show them who's the boss.

Except for Imam Ul Haq and Babar Azam, no one played responsibly. I think actually it was a surprise for a lot of people. after scoring 73 runs without any fall of wickets probably everyone thought that Pakistan is going to win. but Australia did really well. and now that the match is over I am actually amazed by the confidence of Australia.

[savetheFORUM]

17 wickets have fallen so far and second days play is in progress. West Indies after doing so good in ODI are not up to the mark in test. In current test they are still 74 runs short of England first innings small total of 204. Nothing noticeable in West Indies batting so far. Chris Woakes and Ben tokes will be satisfied with there bowling after disappointing Ashes.

Third and final test having very interesting start as England were 114 for nine and then Mahmood and Leach done some recovery with the help of 90 runs partnership it's amazing stuff from these both 10th and 11th number players and frustrating for West Indies now second day of play and same thing happening with home team 40 runs partnership between Da Salva and Joseph as 128 for 7, and now we are 168 for 7 look like England will have very small lead or at least West Indian tail-enders will be done their job until scores are level, but surely we are going to have result of this match with most chances it's going to be ended in four days. But if West Indian team able to have small lead then surely it's going to be more interesting because this could be advantage for them to have to bat in fourth inning.

[eaLiTy]

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The Australian team took the risk, that's why they were able to win. Australia gave a target of 350 runs. It was not a big target. However, in the first innings, Australia declared their innings at 226 for Pakistan's poor batting. Even though Pakistan's top order played well in this innings, the middle order players could not bat responsibly. So they also failed to draw the match.

All the credits goes to Pat Cummins who as a captain has the confidence to go out there and take a chance and then to bowl his heart out and the rest of the bowlers joining him especially Nathan Lyon and i thought this match would end up in a draw as well but Pat Cummins took this game away from Pakistan and a successful tour of Pakistan for Usman Khawaja with the bat.

[KennyR]

^^^ To be honest, I don't think test cricket is going to get back its popularity anymore. yes obviously experiments can be done but I really doubt that people are going to be interested in test cricket again after watching T20 action.

Once after the existence of T20 format cricket people doesn't watch test format cricket much, but everyone used to keep track of the scores. This is a way through which the time being spend is reduced, but not the interest on test cricket.

Test cricket is just too old-fashioned. and the new kid in town(T20) is stealing the show. I really think the draw system in Test cricket should be withdrawn but I don't know how it can be done.

The new kid is not old fashioned. Everyone doesn't have time to watch as if people of 90's watch cricket. In the fast moving World the time is a major constraint. For that purpose T20 format evolved and it has changed the cricketing industry. Another thing will you say to withdraw the draw system in a football match. It has got its own rules.

[Sithara007]

All the credits goes to Pat Cummins who as a captain has the confidence to go out there and take a chance and then to bowl his heart out and the rest of the bowlers joining him especially Nathan Lyon and i thought this match would end up in a draw as well but Pat Cummins took this game away from Pakistan and a successful tour of Pakistan for Usman Khawaja with the bat.

True. At first, I thought that Pat Cummins was a complete idiot, after he declared with a lead of just 351 runs. The pitch was very flat and not offering much support for the bowlers. Somehow Nathan Lyon managed to bowl exceptionally and combined with some senseless batting display from the Pakistanis, they managed to win the match as well as the series. And the Pakistanis should be ashamed that they managed to lose the series despite preparing such substandard pitches. Next time hopefully they would refrain from going in to 100% defensive mode.

[blatchcorn]

True. At first, I thought that Pat Cummins was a complete idiot, after he declared with a lead of just 351 runs. The pitch was very flat and not offering much support for the bowlers. Somehow Nathan Lyon managed to bowl exceptionally and combined with some senseless batting display from the Pakistanis, they managed to win the match as well as the series. And the Pakistanis should be ashamed that they managed to lose the series despite preparing such substandard pitches. Next time hopefully they would refrain from going in to 100% defensive mode.

Aussies bowled out Pakistanis in both innings at 268 and 235, still your flat pitch theory is in place. I think its perfect test pitch. Pakistan got a good start but they are too good in collapsing at any moment of the game. Pakistan was relying too much on Rizwan and Fawad, they both failed on that day.
Still it's a big win for PCB as test series concluded successfully and hopefully same will be true for white ball matches.

[Mamun74]

What a Test match that was Australia vs Pakistan 3rd test match! Australia won by 115 runs.I thought Pakistan would win or drawn but They lost This match.Australia Pace bowling site very strong and they done their job greatly. Pat cummins and Starc was brilliant. Australia have their good bowing site and batting site.Unfortunately Pakistan didn’t bat as well 2nd innings.

[coinism]

West Indies have scored 134 runs of the loss of 7 wickets right now. And this pitch is obviously a bowling pitch.

West Indies are still trailing by 70 runs. and it seems like they are not going to be able to take a lead.
I think they are going to be bowled out before that.

In my opinion, these are the type of test matches I like to enjoy because I  really like to say batsmen working hard for their runs Instead of just getting free runs.

I was thinking the same that WI won't be able to take lead but they are 28 runs ahead with still 2 wickets in hands. A 54 runs innings from Joshua Da Silva and good support from other players lower down the order. West Indies are now right back in the game. Even 50 runs lead will be very handy at such surface.

[JSRAW]

^^^ To be honest, I don't think test cricket is going to get back its popularity anymore. yes obviously experiments can be done but I really doubt that people are going to be interested in test cricket again after watching T20 action.

Test cricket is just too old-fashioned. and the new kid in town(T20) is stealing the show. I really think the draw system in Test cricket should be withdrawn but I don't know how it can be done.

If we leave few bilateral series then i hate to admit that your statement is true and i guess everyone know that, including ICC officials.

Having said that, in context of India. I would say that in last 5-6 years Test cricket popularity has only gone up due to Indian team success. Although BCCI still failed to pull crowd in stadium but its because of poor facilities and neglecting crowd pulling venue (Due to rotation policy, its related to hosting rights for the states).

Updated WTC point table

[galambo]

If we leave few bilateral series then i hate to admit that your statement is true and i guess everyone know that, including ICC officials.

Having said that, in context of India. I would say that in last 5-6 years Test cricket popularity has only gone up due to Indian team success. Although BCCI still failed to pull crowd in stadium but its because of poor facilities and neglecting crowd pulling venue (Due to rotation policy, its related to hosting rights for the states).

Updated WTC point table

https://i.imgur.com/r93CSIc.jpg

India has rotation policy and that's best in the interest of country that every state get a chance to host international matches not just few states have that right. Sometimes you have to compromise on revenue to bring equality in the country. Between, till now I have a mindset that India has best venues in the world with adequate facilities.

[Mamun74]

^^^ To be honest, I don't think test cricket is going to get back its popularity anymore. yes obviously experiments can be done but I really doubt that people are going to be interested in test cricket again after watching T20 action.

Test cricket is just too old-fashioned. and the new kid in town(T20) is stealing the show. I really think the draw system in Test cricket should be withdrawn but I don't know how it can be done.

T-20 Cricket is most enjoying and most popular game.But Test cricket many people watching nowadays and Test cricket is enjoyable if you can enjoy it.Many Cricket Fans watching test match and many people’s just check score. I hope Test cricket will be more popular in future.

[Swordsoffreedom]

West Indies vs England

The current state of the England team is very bad now. I would be happy if England lost this match against West Indies. As a result, they will try to play better in the upcoming matches.
West Indies lost their seventh wicket for 128 runs. Did anyone then imagine that West Indies would end their innings with 297 runs? The unstable bowling of its bowlers in England helped the West Indies to score 297 runs. England lost 3 wickets for only 27 runs in the second innings.

[TheGreatPython]

West Indies have scored 134 runs of the loss of 7 wickets right now. And this pitch is obviously a bowling pitch.

West Indies are still trailing by 70 runs. and it seems like they are not going to be able to take a lead.
I think they are going to be bowled out before that.

In my opinion, these are the type of test matches I like to enjoy because I  really like to say batsmen working hard for their runs Instead of just getting free runs.

I was thinking the same that WI won't be able to take lead but they are 28 runs ahead with still 2 wickets in hands. A 54 runs innings from Joshua Da Silva and good support from other players lower down the order. West Indies are now right back in the game. Even 50 runs lead will be very handy at such surface.

English test cricket is at their lowest level with lost 4 - 0 against Australia in The Ashes and now here in West Indies after two draw matches mostly peoples feeling they are in good touch and can win this series like Australia after winning third test match.

But, Da Salva's amazing Century bring West Indies at driving seat now they are near to win this match as England start their second inning with trailing by 93 runs right now they are 31 for 3 with top order batsmen giving wickets like crap Crawley, Root and Lawrence all gone very cheaply now Alex Lees and Ben Stokes at crease with 62 runs still need for avoiding inning defeat and West Indian bowlers Mayer's and Seals are unplayable for visitors in second inning.

[laurenB7742]

^^^ To be honest, I don't think test cricket is going to get back its popularity anymore. yes obviously experiments can be done but I really doubt that people are going to be interested in test cricket again after watching T20 action.

Test cricket is just too old-fashioned. and the new kid in town(T20) is stealing the show. I really think the draw system in Test cricket should be withdrawn but I don't know how it can be done.

T-20 Cricket is most enjoying and most popular game.But Test cricket many people watching nowadays and Test cricket is enjoyable if you can enjoy it.Many Cricket Fans watching test match and many people’s just check score. I hope Test cricket will be more popular in future.

There is an opportunity to make Test cricket enjoyable. For this, the ICC has to take some difficult steps. The batting-friendly pitch must be stopped completely. As a result, the match became boring. But what the pitch will look like depends entirely on the home team. Notice, the match between England and West Indies is quite exciting. Only the team that plays well will win.

[eaLiTy]

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True. At first, I thought that Pat Cummins was a complete idiot, after he declared with a lead of just 351 runs. The pitch was very flat and not offering much support for the bowlers. Somehow Nathan Lyon managed to bowl exceptionally and combined with some senseless batting display from the Pakistanis, they managed to win the match as well as the series. And the Pakistanis should be ashamed that they managed to lose the series despite preparing such substandard pitches. Next time hopefully they would refrain from going in to 100% defensive mode.

The funny aspect is that even though the pitch was flat, the Australian bowlers were able exploit reverse swing which was introduced to world Cricket by Pakistan legends and Australia was able to win the match and series.
England is struggling in the second innings as they already lost their 7th wicket and they are leading by just 7 runs and it looks like West Indies will win the match easily.