Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[Maidak]

Bangladesh has proper domestic infrastructure and I don't know why that domestic setup cant produce any quality Test team till date. Remember this is South Africa second Sting team and against them Bangladesh were bowled out for 53 in 1st test and on 80 in second test.
The positive thing for SA from this series is that "they are not throwing the doors open to welcome back the IPL absentees who "vacated their spots", as coach Mark Boucher put it, after finding a strong second-tier of players in their series sweep over Bangladesh. (source) "

The domestic setup is not producing much in Bangladesh because the cricket board is being run by people who don't know how to do their work and at times they don't even care.
Even the President of the Bangladesh cricket board is just there for the money. And a cricket board cannot be run like that. I really don't believe that he knows anything about sports.

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[blatchcorn]

The domestic setup is not producing much in Bangladesh because the cricket board is being run by people who don't know how to do their work and at times they don't even care.
Even the President of the Bangladesh cricket board is just there for the money. And a cricket board cannot be run like that. I really don't believe that he knows anything about sports.

Players come from grass root level and its difficult rather impossible to build a team at international level. I mean you cant select players and then say we will make a strong team from these players. Bangladesh may be paying more attention to BPL on there domestic test setup thats why they have gone down to such low level in test.

[SirLancelot]

Bangladesh is a progressive country - but I don't know why the team is not coming up to the people's expectations?
You have well stated that they are not ready to learn from their mistakes and the performance is going down like never before. Time to serious learn from the mistakes and move a head.

There is no doubt Bangladesh recently achieve some amazing success in economically, and they are one of developing countries those are doing best for having good success in future, but still corruption is the biggest concern for them.

Specially with having not strong and fair system is hurting them very badly they need to work on basic requirements which bring transparency which is very important for having good and strong foundation.
They are not learning from their mistakes and not developing their domestic system as well which is very important for any country to have good talent from grassroots which give them good success as we have in India even it needs good money but still they can achieve this.

Sports is now a big industry which can bring some good foreign investment in any country, but it needs strong management.

[coinism]

There is no doubt Bangladesh recently achieve some amazing success in economically, and they are one of developing countries those are doing best for having good success in future, but still corruption is the biggest concern for them.

If Bangladesh maintains this current form then big teams wont be interested in playing against such weak team. Take example of Pakistan, they don't have a strong board like BCCI, CA but they have a strong team that's why countries love to play with them and we see there players in every T20 leagues.

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There is no doubt Bangladesh recently achieve some amazing success in economically, and they are one of developing countries those are doing best for having good success in future, but still corruption is the biggest concern for them.

If Bangladesh maintains this current form then big teams wont be interested in playing against such weak team. Take example of Pakistan, they don't have a strong board like BCCI, CA but they have a strong team that's why countries love to play with them and we see there players in every T20 leagues.

Pakistan has a flare for cricket. And its played in every street and grounds and youngster idealize cricketers alot. PSL itself was very big success but by the time Rameen Raja has joined the PCB team has performed better and they have gained confidence as well. Pakistani team cannot afford defeat since they know there is so much emotions attached with the game.

[Sithara007]

If Bangladesh maintains this current form then big teams wont be interested in playing against such weak team. Take example of Pakistan, they don't have a strong board like BCCI, CA but they have a strong team that's why countries love to play with them and we see there players in every T20 leagues.

Both Bangladesh and Pakistan are having similar population size, but in terms of economy, Pakistan is a lot better when compared to Bangladesh. Now they have a quality franchise T20 league in PSL as well. On the other hand, the BPL started much before PCB were even planning for the PSL, but it is not being regarded as one of the top T20 leagues in the world. Dhaka based clubs are not happy with the BPL, as they believe that it takes away some of their fans. Not saying that there is no infighting within the PCB, but for the BCB it is far worse.

[JSRAW]

Both Bangladesh and Pakistan are having similar population size, but in terms of economy, Pakistan is a lot better when compared to Bangladesh.

Ha! That's a ridiculous claim. Bangladesh already surpassed pakistan in terms of GDP and their economy quite strong in comparison to Pakistan, Pak's economy is in shambles atm and also look at inflation rate. Bongs are even ahead of India in terms Per capita income.

But yeah they lack cricketing talent and lagging dramatically.

[blatchcorn]

Ha! That's a ridiculous claim. Bangladesh already surpassed pakistan in terms of GDP and their economy quite strong in comparison to Pakistan, Pak's economy is in shambles atm and also look at inflation rate. Bongs are even ahead of India in terms Per capita income.

But yeah they lack cricketing talent and lagging dramatically.

You are right that economics indicators in Bangladesh are far better then Pakistan. Pakistan has faced lots of issues related to terrorism in last 15 years still its standing firmly, I don't think Bangladesh is strong enough to face situation like Pakistan for 15 years. I till date cant understand why they were given Test status on basis of winning a game against Pakistan in 1999 WC.

[Minor Miner]

Both Bangladesh and Pakistan are having similar population size, but in terms of economy, Pakistan is a lot better when compared to Bangladesh. Now they have a quality franchise T20 league in PSL as well. On the other hand, the BPL started much before PCB were even planning for the PSL, but it is not being regarded as one of the top T20 leagues in the world. Dhaka based clubs are not happy with the BPL, as they believe that it takes away some of their fans. Not saying that there is no infighting within the PCB, but for the BCB it is far worse.

As far as I know Bangladesh is much smaller in size than Pakistan but Bangladesh's GDP is now much higher than Pakistan's. I heard former President of Pakistan Imran Khan speak in this regard. However, I believe that PSL is more popular and well organized than BPL. BPL is an almost disreputable franchise league. Very annoying gameplay. Moreover, the management does not fulfill its responsibilities properly. BCB needs to be more responsible if it wants to make BPL popular.

[onecall123]

Joe Root resigns as England's Test captain. This is an admirable decision. Over the course of 64 Test matches, he won 27. As a great test player, Root outperforms his peers. There is a crisis in English cricket. The problem isn't just with the captain, but the whole team is at fault. Although finding a better captain is important, it is more important to find some good Test players. Bairstow or Stokes should be the captain. Stokes is a brave player who can make tough decisions. However, their new player cannot perform as much as they expected!

[JSRAW]

Joe Root resigns as England's Test captain. This is an admirable decision. Over the course of 64 Test matches, he won 27. As a great test player, Root outperforms his peers. There is a crisis in English cricket. The problem isn't just with the captain, but the whole team is at fault. Although finding a better captain is important, it is more important to find some good Test players. Bairstow or Stokes should be the captain. Stokes is a brave player who can make tough decisions. However, their new player cannot perform as much as they expected!

Ideal time was after the Ashes but for some weird reason Joe waited for Windies series. Not sure who is going to lead the team now.

Existing players don't have guaranteed spot in the team because no one is consisted with the bat and bowling unit is kinda new after Jimmy-Broad. They can't put much pressure on Ben stokes either. Bairstow was in good form in the Ashes and Windies tour but before that he looked absolutely clueless so bit tricky suggestion and doesn't strike as captain material tbh. 

[og kush420]

Both Bangladesh and Pakistan are having similar population size, but in terms of economy, Pakistan is a lot better when compared to Bangladesh.

Ha! That's a ridiculous claim. Bangladesh already surpassed pakistan in terms of GDP and their economy quite strong in comparison to Pakistan, Pak's economy is in shambles atm and also look at inflation rate. Bongs are even ahead of India in terms Per capita income.

But yeah they lack cricketing talent and lagging dramatically.

Bangladesh was part of Pakistan - it was called East Pakistan and after Dhaka fall Pakistan lost one of its parts.
Bangladeshi are very smart people progressive in textile and many other fields - but Pakistani team is better than Bangladesh. Otherwise Pakistan cannot surpass Bangla

[galambo]

Joe Root resigns as England's Test captain. This is an admirable decision. Over the course of 64 Test matches, he won 27. As a great test player, Root outperforms his peers. There is a crisis in English cricket. The problem isn't just with the captain, but the whole team is at fault. Although finding a better captain is important, it is more important to find some good Test players. Bairstow or Stokes should be the captain. Stokes is a brave player who can make tough decisions. However, their new player cannot perform as much as they expected!

English team in Ashes was deeply dependent on Root and he was the one who saved England from humiliation in Ashes. "I loved leading my country but recently it's hit home how much of a toll it has taken on me - Root on espncricinfo.com ". Ben Stokes performance is disappointing these days he must be given some rest.

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Joe Root resigns as England's Test captain. This is an admirable decision. Over the course of 64 Test matches, he won 27. As a great test player, Root outperforms his peers. There is a crisis in English cricket. The problem isn't just with the captain, but the whole team is at fault. Although finding a better captain is important, it is more important to find some good Test players. Bairstow or Stokes should be the captain. Stokes is a brave player who can make tough decisions. However, their new player cannot perform as much as they expected!

Good luck to Root. He did really well in past matches and saved his team on many instances.
Be it Bairstow and Stokes - the captain should maintain the standard of the Root he was a pride of the team and did very well in ASHES series.

[eaLiTy]

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Pakistan has a flare for cricket. And its played in every street and grounds and youngster idealize cricketers alot. PSL itself was very big success but by the time Rameen Raja has joined the PCB team has performed better and they have gained confidence as well. Pakistani team cannot afford defeat since they know there is so much emotions attached with the game.

Look at all the Asian Cricket playing countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka and you will see youngsters and seniors playing in villages or in cities where they could play the match but the trick is to identify talents from even the remote villages and right now India is doing that and hence seeing more talents than they used to see in the past and if the rest of the countries starts doing that, they will see the changes.

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Good luck to Root. He did really well in past matches and saved his team on many instances.
Be it Bairstow and Stokes - the captain should maintain the standard of the Root he was a pride of the team and did very well in ASHES series.

I do not think Jonny Bairstow or Ben Stokes are ready to become the captain at this moment in time, i would prefer to see Stuart Broad taking over the captaincy and then groom other players that would be capable of leading the country. The reason i do not want to see Ben Stokes is because he took a long break due to mental health issues and for a player like that, captaincy will be a huge burden.

[Mr.Scott]

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Good luck to Root. He did really well in past matches and saved his team on many instances.
Be it Bairstow and Stokes - the captain should maintain the standard of the Root he was a pride of the team and did very well in ASHES series.

I do not think Jonny Bairstow or Ben Stokes are ready to become the captain at this moment in time, i would prefer to see Stuart Broad taking over the captaincy and then groom other players that would be capable of leading the country. The reason i do not want to see Ben Stokes is because he took a long break due to mental health issues and for a player like that, captaincy will be a huge burden.

Regardless of who replaces Root as England's Test skipper, it will be a challenging decision to name the next skipper. I think Root's decision is premature. I'm not convinced there is a suitable replacement for Joe Root. He's a nice chap, but he made the decision to leave. So who is England's next Test captain? Ben Stokes and Jos Buttler are the likely candidates. As you mentioned, Ben Stokes has some injury issues, and he has also taken a long break due to mental health issues. Buttler is a much better option.

[galambo]

Regardless of who replaces Root as England's Test skipper, it will be a challenging decision to name the next skipper. I think Root's decision is premature. I'm not convinced there is a suitable replacement for Joe Root. He's a nice chap, but he made the decision to leave. So who is England's next Test captain? Ben Stokes and Jos Buttler are the likely candidates. As you mentioned, Ben Stokes has some injury issues, and he has also taken a long break due to mental health issues. Buttler is a much better option.

England whole team is struggling at the moment and it doesn't matter who will he the next captain, the downfall of England will continue as long as they find suitable 11 players for test. Root decision is best in his own interest not in teams interest.

[JSRAW]

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Good luck to Root. He did really well in past matches and saved his team on many instances.
Be it Bairstow and Stokes - the captain should maintain the standard of the Root he was a pride of the team and did very well in ASHES series.

I do not think Jonny Bairstow or Ben Stokes are ready to become the captain at this moment in time, i would prefer to see Stuart Broad taking over the captaincy and then groom other players that would be capable of leading the country. The reason i do not want to see Ben Stokes is because he took a long break due to mental health issues and for a player like that, captaincy will be a huge burden.

Stuart Broad seems front runner but i guess he's 35-ish already so imo it would be short term gig for him. This won't be a bad choice for short term if he's captaining the team for full home season because he can get into the playing XI without any fuss. At the same time management can groom some one else for future, may be Burns, Ben Foakes? I still don't understand why Broad was dropped from the team in the first place.

[Sithara007]

Stuart Broad seems front runner but i guess he's 35-ish already so imo it would be short term gig for him. This won't be a bad choice for short term if he's captaining the team for full home season because he can get into the playing XI without any fuss. At the same time management can groom some one else for future, may be Burns, Ben Foakes? I still don't understand why Broad was dropped from the team in the first place.

Not just Broad, but Anderson was also dropped unfairly. These guys gave a lot many victories to the England team with their pace bowling and they were dropped without any logical reason. And I fully support the suggestion that Broad should be made the captain. At this point, for me he is one of the frontrunners. I don't have anything against Burns or Foakes, but it is too early to talk about grooming them, when their position in the playing XI is not secure. The ECB can groom 2-3 players, hoping that at least one of them would become a good captain in the next few years.