Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[S A KHAIR]

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I think it's better if he does not concentrate on test cricket right now and concentrates more on the shorter formats of cricket because he is into the later stages of his career. At this moment a break will do a lot of good for him because if he goes away and the Indian team starts performing bad, I think eventually he will be needed in the team and at that time I am quite sure that he will be able to perform a lot better with a positive state of mind.

If the opinion is that Virat Kohli should step down as a player and then come back when India is struggling does not make any sense  . No player will take a break and then expect him to perform well and when a team is struggling how come he will be able to bat freely with all the pressure upon him, so that is not a good option for him. He needs to rectify his technique he thinks is creating problems and one solid innings will change the momentum.

And exactly how long are we going to wait for that “one solid innings”?  and the other thing is if Virat Kohli steps down as a  player and India is doing well,  aren't there less chances of him being called into the team?
I get that some players might play Bad and they might switch that there for him but still I think the chances are low.

I think it's better if he does not concentrate on test cricket right now and concentrates more on the shorter formats of cricket because he is into the later stages of his career. At this moment a break will do a lot of good for him because if he goes away and the Indian team starts performing bad, I think eventually he will be needed in the team and at that time I am quite sure that he will be able to perform a lot better with a positive state of mind.

This (taking a break) was suggested to him many months back, but he refused to listen. Anyway, he is angry with the BCCI guys and now Ganguly and Shah doesn't want to antagonize him further. As of now, Kohli has at least 3-4 years of international cricket left with him. And maybe another 2-3 years of IPL after that. He remains as the Indian cricketer with the maximum market value. Others (Rohit, Bumrah, Shami.etc) are far behind. But sooner or later, he need to address the issue of his current poor form.

Everyone goes through slums and it's ok to acknowledge that. and a player obviously has to understand that he is actually going through slumps and he really should understand that at that time the best thing to do is take a break.  and one more thing that is is not being understood by Virat Kohli is that it the more he will try to overcome this situation with his tilted mentality the more he is going to play bad.

[wiss19]

I would say with current form he can only play 1 to 2 years in international cricket, as bcci won't afford such batsmen in there line-up. I agree he has market value because of many reasons but we have to admit his value as a batsman has gone down to zero.

Day by day things are going the worst for Kohli but greediness or competition is not allowing him to take care about these things, and he is carried on with his the worst form in current time which can bring some more problems for him and his career.

Many saying it's all about money and few are having other views alike ego or what, but surely he needs some break which give them some better mind-set about his game and future, but he has to do something for some time surely currently Indian team is most busy in cricket world and their players are now suffering from things like this which is not good signal if BCCI needs to keep their players in good shape then surely they need to work on rotation system and having some strong back for all in all formats which will help them for staying good for long time, and they could be served in better way for their country.

[7788bitcoin]

I would say with current form he can only play 1 to 2 years in international cricket, as bcci won't afford such batsmen in there line-up. I agree he has market value because of many reasons but we have to admit his value as a batsman has gone down to zero.

If you say that Virat Kohli is having zero value as a batsman then there are other players like Rohit Sharma who is struggling as well and there are many young talents that are waiting for an opportunity to play and they need to find these players and give them the opportunity rather than replacing all these big players all at once. Even in Test matches their specialist players like Rahane and Pujara are struggling for a while and they need to be replaced if BCCI plans on replacing Kohli  .

[mm2543363580]

I would say with current form he can only play 1 to 2 years in international cricket, as bcci won't afford such batsmen in there line-up. I agree he has market value because of many reasons but we have to admit his value as a batsman has gone down to zero.

Day by day things are going the worst for Kohli but greediness or competition is not allowing him to take care about these things, and he is carried on with his the worst form in current time which can bring some more problems for him and his career.

Many saying it's all about money and few are having other views alike ego or what, but surely he needs some break which give them some better mind-set about his game and future, but he has to do something for some time surely currently Indian team is most busy in cricket world and their players are now suffering from things like this which is not good signal if BCCI needs to keep their players in good shape then surely they need to work on rotation system and having some strong back for all in all formats which will help them for staying good for long time, and they could be served in better way for their country.

Seem like there are so much nepotism and ego problem in the indian players. There are so many teams in IPL and it's hard to keep record of them.
Everything has pros and cons - now we dont see the professionalism in cricket these days because there is so much rush of young cricketers in the ground  now.

[coinism]

]If you say that Virat Kohli is having zero value as a batsman then there are other players like Rohit Sharma who is struggling as well and there are many young talents that are waiting for an opportunity to play and they need to find these players and give them the opportunity rather than replacing all these big players all at once. Even in Test matches their specialist players like Rahane and Pujara are struggling for a while and they need to be replaced if BCCI plans on replacing Kohli  .

Even in IPL kohli has got two ducks in his last two matches. BCCI would do harm to its national squad if they keep including kohli in its playing eleven. Pujara and Rahane are replaced as they were not seen in latest test series against SL. Time for king kohli to think wisely else it will be too late.

[blatchcorn]

Day by day things are going the worst for Kohli but greediness or competition is not allowing him to take care about these things, and he is carried on with his the worst form in current time which can bring some more problems for him and his career.

Many saying it's all about money and few are having other views alike ego or what, but surely he needs some break which give them some better mind-set about his game and future, but he has to do something for some time surely currently Indian team is most busy in cricket world and their players are now suffering from things like this which is not good signal if BCCI needs to keep their players in good shape then surely they need to work on rotation system and having some strong back for all in all formats which will help them for staying good for long time, and they could be served in better way for their country.

In South Asia the problem with players like kohli is that they don't take break since they fear that new players may perform well and they will be replaced permanently. With this mentality kohli is still carrying on. In T20 WC, when kohli was asked to replace rohit because of his bad form he laughed and ignored it. Now same is done by Rohit when asked will he consider replacing kohli. Seems like Indian skippers are more interested in having good relationships with each other and that's costing Indian team.

[Swordsoffreedom]

In South Asia the problem with players like kohli is that they don't take break since they fear that new players may perform well and they will be replaced permanently. With this mentality kohli is still carrying on. In T20 WC, when kohli was asked to replace rohit because of his bad form he laughed and ignored it. Now same is done by Rohit when asked will he consider replacing kohli. Seems like Indian skippers are more interested in having good relationships with each other and that's costing Indian team.

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

[romero121]

In South Asia the problem with players like kohli is that they don't take break since they fear that new players may perform well and they will be replaced permanently. With this mentality kohli is still carrying on. In T20 WC, when kohli was asked to replace rohit because of his bad form he laughed and ignored it. Now same is done by Rohit when asked will he consider replacing kohli. Seems like Indian skippers are more interested in having good relationships with each other and that's costing Indian team.

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

[galambo]

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

India has population of 1.3 billion and they are crazy for cricket. BCCI has around 40 teams in its domestic cricket pool. So with such huge setup it's surprising to see bcci has no replacement of King kohli nor rohit. If bcci wanna continue with kohli current form rather then giving chance to new talent then its there own choice.

[JSRAW]

In South Asia the problem with players like kohli is that they don't take break since they fear that new players may perform well and they will be replaced permanently. With this mentality kohli is still carrying on. In T20 WC, when kohli was asked to replace rohit because of his bad form he laughed and ignored it. Now same is done by Rohit when asked will he consider replacing kohli. Seems like Indian skippers are more interested in having good relationships with each other and that's costing Indian team.

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

Sometime i wish that ICC should allow BCCI to field 2 or may be 3 teams (being cheeky here) teams in ICC tournament lol, i know it's a ridiculous demand but imo it does have some merit. Even 2nd, 3rd string Indian team would perform better or give fair amount of competition to opposition in comparison to associate member.

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[LittleBitFunny]

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

I agree because I think India has a lot of talent on offer but they don't have the experience and also the quality that these two players bring in the team.

I also agree that the players should be given more time and especially the players who are young. It is easy to feel nervous in the first few matches. But once the nerves get settled the player is surely going to do better. And I believe through IPL a lot of players are coming forward and they also don't feel that much nervousness while playing their first few matches.

[JSRAW]

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

I agree because I think India has a lot of talent on offer but they don't have the experience and also the quality that these two players bring in the team.

I also agree that the players should be given more time and especially the players who are young. It is easy to feel nervous in the first few matches. But once the nerves get settled the player is surely going to do better. And I believe through IPL a lot of players are coming forward and they also don't feel that much nervousness while playing their first few matches.

I think you guys are focused on IPL so i want to jump in this conversation.

Just to give everyone broad perspective in regards of quality. Natarajan, Washington, Axar, Avesh Khan, Kartik, Ravi Bishnoi, Umesh Yadav, Khaleel Ahmed, Harshal patel, Prasidh Krishna, Gaikward, Shryas iyer, Shivam Dhube, Venkatesh Iyer, Prithvi Shaw, Shikar Dhawan can't even find their place in National team and i'm not even including new guys here.

[galambo]

I think you guys are focused on IPL so i want to jump in this conversation.

Just to give everyone broad perspective in regards of quality. Natarajan, Washington, Axar, Avesh Khan, Kartik, Ravi Bishnoi, Umesh Yadav, Khaleel Ahmed, Harshal patel, Prasidh Krishna, Gaikward, Shryas iyer, Shivam Dhube, Venkatesh Iyer, Prithvi Shaw, Shikar Dhawan can't even find their place in National team and i'm not even including new guys here.

Yes that quite true. You can't compare IPL with international cricket. Though we have best players in IPL but level of international cricket is way over any league because of some reasons. But that doesn't mean there is no replacement of King kohli in all domestic teams of bcci there are many players in queue just waiting for there turn.

[Swordsoffreedom]

In South Asia the problem with players like kohli is that they don't take break since they fear that new players may perform well and they will be replaced permanently. With this mentality kohli is still carrying on. In T20 WC, when kohli was asked to replace rohit because of his bad form he laughed and ignored it. Now same is done by Rohit when asked will he consider replacing kohli. Seems like Indian skippers are more interested in having good relationships with each other and that's costing Indian team.

Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma may not be in form. However, India does not have talented and experienced players like them. There are some young players who are quite talented, but they are not as experienced as Rohit and Kohli. And so replacement of Kohli and Rohit is not possible now.
However, it is important to return to their form. Some days they should take a break from all types of cricket. Once they are mentally stable, they should practice again. Maybe with hard practice they will be able to get back to form.

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

I also said that India has a lot of talented players. But I said they are not as experienced as Kohli and Rohit. They may be able to play well in the domestic series, but their performance outside the country is not good. The Indian management gave a chance to a number of young talented players in the team but they did not perform as expected in the national team. And so the BCCI no longer wants to rely on young players. They need experienced players. If they want to play well in the next World Cup, they definitely need experienced players. It would be foolish to rely on a platform like the World Cup.

[Tony116]

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

I agree because I think India has a lot of talent on offer but they don't have the experience and also the quality that these two players bring in the team.
I also agree that the players should be given more time and especially the players who are young. It is easy to feel nervous in the first few matches. But once the nerves get settled the player is surely going to do better. And I believe through IPL a lot of players are coming forward and they also don't feel that much nervousness while playing their first few matches.

I think you guys are focused on IPL so i want to jump in this conversation.

Just to give everyone broad perspective in regards of quality. Natarajan, Washington, Axar, Avesh Khan, Kartik, Ravi Bishnoi, Umesh Yadav, Khaleel Ahmed, Harshal patel, Prasidh Krishna, Gaikward, Shryas iyer, Shivam Dhube, Venkatesh Iyer, Prithvi Shaw, Shikar Dhawan can't even find their place in National team and i'm not even including new guys here.

I know that these guys are really good but can any one of them replace Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma? 

In my opinion, they can not. but obviously, that does not mean if Rohit Sharma or Virat Kohli are not performing there will still be in the team, even though when there are a lot of people waiting for their chance to prove themselves.

The poor performance of Virat Kohli has been going on for a long time and I think it's time that he should be dropped.

[SirLancelot]

I know that these guys are really good but can any one of them replace Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma? 

In my opinion, they can not. but obviously, that does not mean if Rohit Sharma or Virat Kohli are not performing there will still be in the team, even though when there are a lot of people waiting for their chance to prove themselves.

The poor performance of Virat Kohli has been going on for a long time and I think it's time that he should be dropped.

In International cricket all players are replaceable because this is nature of this world and game, so please never talk about that Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma having not good replacements in current squad we have few players those have very good and natural talent which could be shine by time in near future even currently they are not doing like peoples are expecting from them. Right now things are not going in favor of these two legendary players so peoples having some good talk about them and their performance, but surely they are also humans, and they can do good and bad both.

Right now IPL is in progress, so they can check few youngsters for future and trying to have them for next international series which give them some good experience even right now they have no time as World Cup is also coming shortly, but things can change if BCCI and selectors will take some bold decisions for better future like done by Australia recently.

[galambo]

Right now IPL is in progress, so they can check few youngsters for future and trying to have them for next international series which give them some good experience even right now they have no time as World Cup is also coming shortly, but things can change if BCCI and selectors will take some bold decisions for better future like done by Australia recently.

You can't find players for test and odi from T20 leagues, IPL or any other league can only produce players for T20I only. Even T20I level is much higher then T20 league final. I keep on saying that India has huge domestic setup and they must have some young talented players who can  replace out of form kohli just like Pujara and Rahane were replaced.

[JSRAW]

That's a wrong statement. India have got more talented players, when opportunities were given we'll come to know about them. Now through IPL more strong players of India are known to the world. When there is consistent performance with a player they can't be questioned as well as when there is lack of performance they shouldn't be removed from the squad immediately. They need to be given time, because one may not perform in a series but come and perform with confidence in the next series.

I agree because I think India has a lot of talent on offer but they don't have the experience and also the quality that these two players bring in the team.
I also agree that the players should be given more time and especially the players who are young. It is easy to feel nervous in the first few matches. But once the nerves get settled the player is surely going to do better. And I believe through IPL a lot of players are coming forward and they also don't feel that much nervousness while playing their first few matches.

I think you guys are focused on IPL so i want to jump in this conversation.

Just to give everyone broad perspective in regards of quality. Natarajan, Washington, Axar, Avesh Khan, Kartik, Ravi Bishnoi, Umesh Yadav, Khaleel Ahmed, Harshal patel, Prasidh Krishna, Gaikward, Shryas iyer, Shivam Dhube, Venkatesh Iyer, Prithvi Shaw, Shikar Dhawan can't even find their place in National team and i'm not even including new guys here.

I know that these guys are really good but can any one of them replace Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma? 

In my opinion, they can not. but obviously, that does not mean if Rohit Sharma or Virat Kohli are not performing there will still be in the team, even though when there are a lot of people waiting for their chance to prove themselves.

The poor performance of Virat Kohli has been going on for a long time and I think it's time that he should be dropped.

Not now but in next 2-3 years for sure. Like i mentioned earlier that ICC should allow 2 teams from the India in the ICC tournament (Limited overs cricket)

I'm sure 2nd string Indian team could provide far more entertainment and could be competitive in comparison to Zim, UAE, Ireland, Singapore and few others.
 

[savetheFORUM]

You can't find players for test and odi from T20 leagues, IPL or any other league can only produce players for T20I only. Even T20I level is much higher then T20 league final. I keep on saying that India has huge domestic setup and they must have some young talented players who can  replace out of form kohli just like Pujara and Rahane were replaced.

You are right, but they can start picking few players and then can go for other formats as well because after IPL there are five matches series between India vs South Africa, and then they have few other events as well, so this could be start for them which will surely help in near future for other formats as well.
 
Their domestic set up is huge, but it's not providing quality players which is big concern for them, they need to think about this and having some good changes for this as well and another thing is also important surely they need to have some good quality academies which help these youths in all formats this could be good investment for their cricket like Australia.

Currently, their investment is having the best return for them, and they are dominating in men's and women's both formats with their domestic system and academies.

[Tony116]

I know that these guys are really good but can any one of them replace Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma? 
In my opinion, they can not. but obviously, that does not mean if Rohit Sharma or Virat Kohli are not performing there will still be in the team, even though when there are a lot of people waiting for their chance to prove themselves.
The poor performance of Virat Kohli has been going on for a long time and I think it's time that he should be dropped.

In International cricket all players are replaceable because this is nature of this world and game, so please never talk about that Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma having not good replacements in current squad we have few players those have very good and natural talent which could be shine by time in near future even currently they are not doing like peoples are expecting from them. Right now things are not going in favor of these two legendary players so peoples having some good talk about them and their performance, but surely they are also humans, and they can do good and bad both.

Right now IPL is in progress, so they can check few youngsters for future and trying to have them for next international series which give them some good experience even right now they have no time as World Cup is also coming shortly, but things can change if BCCI and selectors will take some bold decisions for better future like done by Australia recently.

India actually has the type of player that you are talking about. Obviously, they should be given a chance, and the players who are not in form can obviously be dropped from the team at least for the sake of a test.

Virat Kohli has obviously not been in form recently. His being stubborn is obviously hurting the team right now. but even though a lot of people think that they have really good players who can be a good substitute for Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma, I think when these two players are in form there is no one that can substitute them.