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April 10, 2022, 11:22:09 PM
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There are teams that took multiple decades to develop their infrastructure and find performers that could match the International standards, for example England never had a great ODI team for decades and they started developing players of ODI and T20 after the introduction of T20 Cricket, India never had a good fast bowler for decades and only recently they started to find exceptional talents in that department. Some countries like South Africa never got to replace the legendary players they once had and Bangladesh will have talented players in the future that would have an impact on the Test level.

Let's hope things get better for Bangladesh in the future, right now it's very disappointing performance. Hopefully on day 4 we will see result on second test in favour of SA. Bangladesh have there own T20 league and there is lot of cricket going on there, still quality is missing.

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In Bangladesh, there is a strong domestic league, although it focuses only on limited overs and is not competitive enough. It is high time that they move their focus from limited to longer formats. Its inexperience, brought about by a lack of exposure, has held Bangladesh back. They are still in the process of developing test maturity, and are still considered minors in test cricket. If your approach in test cricket even at home by playing safe and not beating your opponents, you may not be able to last long. While it's obvious that the process takes time, you don't know whether you are going the right direction until you see it in action.
I was not aware of the domestic set up of Bangladesh, but like other Asian countries Pakistan and India they need to set up a strong first class league and only then they could find the talents. T20 leagues have nurtured the players for the shortest format and hence Bangladesh is performing well in ODI and T20 and they need to focus on First class Cricket to identify Test level players and give them opportunities.
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In Bangladesh, there is a strong domestic league, although it focuses only on limited overs and is not competitive enough. It is high time that they move their focus from limited to longer formats. Its inexperience, brought about by a lack of exposure, has held Bangladesh back. They are still in the process of developing test maturity, and are still considered minors in test cricket. If your approach in test cricket even at home by playing safe and not beating your opponents, you may not be able to last long. While it's obvious that the process takes time, you don't know whether you are going the right direction until you see it in action.
Bangladesh has very long and good history in cricket even they have test status just 23 years ago, but their set-up is very old but sadly as I read due to domestic corruption they fail to develop this all never have any solid plan for setting things in positive way as few mentioning other countries they develop things, but these all happen just because of strong approach by their own boards and other authorities with this all Bangladesh is also can do this all but first hey need to bring some better set up in management and then work on all fields which must for improving their cricket setup currently they are third most populated country in cricket but sadly due to
their own issues they are at bottom of all lists which is not good.
They already lost some good time but still they have few things which can bring them in good position with available talent which is good but need some good development programs now they have some good funds through BPL which also can help them.

The problem with the Bangladesh cricket team is that they are just not patient enough to play the test cricket. They are decent enough in One Day Internationals and also trying to improve in the t20s but in Test cricket, they are just not patient enough and fail to see what the bowlers and the batman are trying to do.


I was not aware of the domestic set up of Bangladesh, but like other Asian countries Pakistan and India they need to set up a strong first class league and only then they could find the talents. T20 leagues have nurtured the players for the shortest format and hence Bangladesh is performing well in ODI and T20 and they need to focus on First class Cricket to identify Test level players and give them opportunities.

The problem is there are a lot of fixing and fabrication going on in the first-class cricket of Bangladesh even though Bangladesh do have a good domestic setup. A player will obviously be disheartened If he knows that there is no point in playing a game because they are not going to win.

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In Bangladesh, there is a strong domestic league, although it focuses only on limited overs and is not competitive enough. It is high time that they move their focus from limited to longer formats. Its inexperience, brought about by a lack of exposure, has held Bangladesh back. They are still in the process of developing test maturity, and are still considered minors in test cricket. If your approach in test cricket even at home by playing safe and not beating your opponents, you may not be able to last long. While it's obvious that the process takes time, you don't know whether you are going the right direction until you see it in action.
I was not aware of the domestic set up of Bangladesh, but like other Asian countries Pakistan and India they need to set up a strong first class league and only then they could find the talents. T20 leagues have nurtured the players for the shortest format and hence Bangladesh is performing well in ODI and T20 and they need to focus on First class Cricket to identify Test level players and give them opportunities.

Bangladesh Board is not worried about the performance of the Test format. I think so. Bangladesh's domestic leagues are not up to standard. And often we get news of match-fixing in the domestic leagues of Bangladesh. Besides, I am not aware of any domestic tournament organized by Bangladesh Board to improve the Test format. If Bangladesh Board wants to find talented players for the Test format then domestic leagues must be improved, match-fixing must be stopped.

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April 11, 2022, 11:35:29 AM
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South Africa won the second test by huge margin as Bangladesh collapse their batting department just 80 runs.Once more for the second time in two tests, BAN have been bowled out for under 100 and Keshav Maharaj the name who cause this annihilation. It's all spinners wickets again. It has been more than 20 years that BAN was granted the test status yet their mentality don't belong to the mark. One more poor and disheartening execution by Bangladesh.
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In Bangladesh, there is a strong domestic league, although it focuses only on limited overs and is not competitive enough. It is high time that they move their focus from limited to longer formats. Its inexperience, brought about by a lack of exposure, has held Bangladesh back. They are still in the process of developing test maturity, and are still considered minors in test cricket. If your approach in test cricket even at home by playing safe and not beating your opponents, you may not be able to last long. While it's obvious that the process takes time, you don't know whether you are going the right direction until you see it in action.
I was not aware of the domestic set up of Bangladesh, but like other Asian countries Pakistan and India they need to set up a strong first class league and only then they could find the talents. T20 leagues have nurtured the players for the shortest format and hence Bangladesh is performing well in ODI and T20 and they need to focus on First class Cricket to identify Test level players and give them opportunities.


They recently won ODI series against South Africa in South Africa for the very first time in history. But still I cant say they are a reliable team in ODI nor in T20I format. They have there T20 league but still they are playing qualifying round to play the T20I WC last year. Bangladesh really need to work hard on there domestic setup.

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Damn you Bangladesh!! This is the second time Saffa's spin duo knocked you out cheaply, what happened to you guys?

Australia and South Africa are bossing the point table, South Africa still has 2 tough series away from home but 1 easy series at home against Windies.

India and Pakistan walking on tightrope.



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April 11, 2022, 01:29:11 PM
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The problem with the Bangladesh cricket team is that they are just not patient enough to play the test cricket. They are decent enough in One Day Internationals and also trying to improve in the t20s but in Test cricket, they are just not patient enough and fail to see what the bowlers and the batman are trying to do.
Bangladesh is really a great team in ODI format. But they don't deserve the test status for their worst performance in test format. The players of Bangladesh need more guidance to to better in test matches. Their bowlers aren't able to bring much variance and put pressure on the opponents. Even, the experienced players of Bangladesh showing worthless batting performance. BCB should take necessary steps to improve the ability of their players. They also need a better captain who will be able take the right decisions. Bangladesh is at 8th position in the ICC World Test Championship (2021-2023) Points Table

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Damn you Bangladesh!! This is the second time Saffa's spin duo knocked you out cheaply, what happened to you guys?

Australia and South Africa are bossing the point table, South Africa still has 2 tough series away from home but 1 easy series at home against Windies.

India and Pakistan walking on tightrope.
https://i.imgur.com/W1Cq24h.jpg


Disappointing performance from Bangladesh in second innings. They have players in their team that can easily take score to 200 atleast but they are failing to reach double figure's. Only two South African bowlers were enough to uproot whole Bangladeshi team.
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Damn you Bangladesh!! This is the second time Saffa's spin duo knocked you out cheaply, what happened to you guys?

Australia and South Africa are bossing the point table, South Africa still has 2 tough series away from home but 1 easy series at home against Windies.

India and Pakistan walking on tightrope.
https://i.imgur.com/W1Cq24h.jpg


Disappointing performance from Bangladesh in second innings. They have players in their team that can easily take score to 200 atleast but they are failing to reach double figure's. Only two South African bowlers were enough to uproot whole Bangladeshi team.

Considering the first innings performance what Bangladesh did in the second innings of the match is really disappointing. Even in the first innings there is continued wicket fall at specific interval, but the team managed to score 217 runs. During the second innings also it should've managed to score atleast 200 runs. Losing entire wickets for 80 runs in a test match shows that Bangladesh needs lots of improvement.

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April 11, 2022, 08:14:04 PM
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Considering the first innings performance what Bangladesh did in the second innings of the match is really disappointing. Even in the first innings there is continued wicket fall at specific interval, but the team managed to score 217 runs. During the second innings also it should've managed to score atleast 200 runs. Losing entire wickets for 80 runs in a test match shows that Bangladesh needs lots of improvement.
Maharaj is the biggest nightmare for Bangladesh in this series as he takes 16 wickets in just three innings which is surely amazing performance from this short man but on other side surely a terrible series for Bangladesh specially after winning ODI series and South African playing without their main players which are not available due to their duties in IPL.

Now with just 23 overs and 80 runs on board Bangladesh have one unwanted record that they are victim of 16th occasion when a team is bowled by two bowlers with this record they face the worst defeat, and now they are just above England in WTC ranking with most chances they will drop out at bottom because now in next few weeks England is going to have some points.

With this result now we can hope from BCB that they will think about this format as well and bring some good changes for better quality which helps them for staying in good place.

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Damn you Bangladesh!! This is the second time Saffa's spin duo knocked you out cheaply, what happened to you guys?

Australia and South Africa are bossing the point table, South Africa still has 2 tough series away from home but 1 easy series at home against Windies.

India and Pakistan walking on tightrope.
https://i.imgur.com/W1Cq24h.jpg


Disappointing performance from Bangladesh in second innings. They have players in their team that can easily take score to 200 atleast but they are failing to reach double figure's. Only two South African bowlers were enough to uproot whole Bangladeshi team.

do you know that cricket game is one of difficult game so far in sports, Bangladesh team did perform well does show that they don't know what they are doing because i know that games are not play to be like that but at most failures pay visit to match you know fully well that your supporter will win. The disappointment you have for the team is not constant, i hope you know

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Damn you Bangladesh!! This is the second time Saffa's spin duo knocked you out cheaply, what happened to you guys?

Australia and South Africa are bossing the point table, South Africa still has 2 tough series away from home but 1 easy series at home against Windies.

India and Pakistan walking on tightrope.
https://i.imgur.com/W1Cq24h.jpg


Disappointing performance from Bangladesh in second innings. They have players in their team that can easily take score to 200 atleast but they are failing to reach double figure's. Only two South African bowlers were enough to uproot whole Bangladeshi team.

do you know that cricket game is one of difficult game so far in sports, Bangladesh team did perform well does show that they don't know what they are doing because i know that games are not play to be like that but at most failures pay visit to match you know fully well that your supporter will win. The disappointment you have for the team is not constant, i hope you know
Bangladesh always remains the target of criticism. I think they need a little moral boosting as well. Every time they loose a match they are under serious pressure of criticism from all around. They came to the field a bit later than other team. They need time as well to be considered as an experienced team.

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Damn you Bangladesh!! This is the second time Saffa's spin duo knocked you out cheaply, what happened to you guys?

Australia and South Africa are bossing the point table, South Africa still has 2 tough series away from home but 1 easy series at home against Windies.

India and Pakistan walking on tightrope.
https://i.imgur.com/W1Cq24h.jpg


Disappointing performance from Bangladesh in second innings. They have players in their team that can easily take score to 200 atleast but they are failing to reach double figure's. Only two South African bowlers were enough to uproot whole Bangladeshi team.

do you know that cricket game is one of difficult game so far in sports, Bangladesh team did perform well does show that they don't know what they are doing because i know that games are not play to be like that but at most failures pay visit to match you know fully well that your supporter will win. The disappointment you have for the team is not constant, i hope you know

I agree with you, every game is difficult when the player is in the field.
It is easy to criticize someone, but it’s easier to appreciate the players as well. Bangladishi team needs an appreciation as well. They are always under the pressure of criticism.

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April 11, 2022, 09:39:28 PM
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Bangladesh always remains the target of criticism. I think they need a little moral boosting as well. Every time they loose a match they are under serious pressure of criticism from all around. They came to the field a bit later than other team. They need time as well to be considered as an experienced team.
It's all because of their poor record in test matches, they have total 130  16  97  0  17  0.16  12.3  74.61  13.07     
16 wins from 130 matches is the worst which is bringing some good criticism for them, they badly fail to adopt this and been never deserve this status mostly peoples were feeling Zimbabwe is the worst team in this format, but they are also having better record and can compete in this format if they solve their inner political problems which are hurting cricket very badly in long run.

But, for Bangladesh there is no problem like this they are completely failed to adopt this and going down badly day by day which is really a problem which need to settle or ICC need to do some other options.
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Damn you Bangladesh!! This is the second time Saffa's spin duo knocked you out cheaply, what happened to you guys?

Australia and South Africa are bossing the point table, South Africa still has 2 tough series away from home but 1 easy series at home against Windies.

India and Pakistan walking on tightrope.
https://i.imgur.com/W1Cq24h.jpg


Disappointing performance from Bangladesh in second innings. They have players in their team that can easily take score to 200 atleast but they are failing to reach double figure's. Only two South African bowlers were enough to uproot whole Bangladeshi team.


do you know that cricket game is one of difficult game so far in sports, Bangladesh team did perform well does show that they don't know what they are doing because i know that games are not play to be like that but at most failures pay visit to match you know fully well that your supporter will win. The disappointment you have for the team is not constant, i hope you know

I agree with you, every game is difficult when the player is in the field.
It is easy to criticize someone, but it’s easier to appreciate the players as well. Bangladishi team needs an appreciation as well. They are always under the pressure of criticism.

Bangladesh always remains the target of criticism. I think they need a little moral boosting as well. Every time they loose a match they are under serious pressure of criticism from all around. They came to the field a bit later than other team. They need time as well to be considered as an experienced team.
It's all because of their poor record in test matches, they have total 130  16  97  0  17  0.16  12.3  74.61  13.07     
16 wins from 130 matches is the worst which is bringing some good criticism for them, they badly fail to adopt this and been never deserve this status mostly peoples were feeling Zimbabwe is the worst team in this format, but they are also having better record and can compete in this format if they solve their inner political problems which are hurting cricket very badly in long run.

But, for Bangladesh there is no problem like this they are completely failed to adopt this and going down badly day by day which is really a problem which need to settle or ICC need to do some other options.

I think people are right to criticise Bangladesh for this poor performance, because they gave away 29 wickets to the African spinners and there’s no justification for the way they played in the second innings. Also Bangladesh can learn a lot from this defeat and work on improving their game, because I feel with some more efforts they can improve their overall game and provide tough challenge to their opponents.
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I think people are right to criticise Bangladesh for this poor performance, because they gave away 29 wickets to the African spinners and there’s no justification for the way they played in the second innings. Also Bangladesh can learn a lot from this defeat and work on improving their game, because I feel with some more efforts they can improve their overall game and provide tough challenge to their opponents.

People may be right or wrong in criticising Bangladesh but Bangladesh are in no mood of learning anything from there mistakes. They need to build a strong domestic infrastructure which can produce quality players from grass root level. You can only have a strong team if your domestic setup has quality FC or list A games
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I think people are right to criticise Bangladesh for this poor performance, because they gave away 29 wickets to the African spinners and there’s no justification for the way they played in the second innings. Also Bangladesh can learn a lot from this defeat and work on improving their game, because I feel with some more efforts they can improve their overall game and provide tough challenge to their opponents.

People may be right or wrong in criticising Bangladesh but Bangladesh are in no mood of learning anything from there mistakes. They need to build a strong domestic infrastructure which can produce quality players from grass root level. You can only have a strong team if your domestic setup has quality FC or list A games
Bangladesh is a progressive country - but I don't know why the team is not coming up to the people's expectations?
You have well stated that they are not ready to learn from their mistakes and the performance is going down like never before. Time to serious learn from the mistakes and move a head.

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I think people are right to criticise Bangladesh for this poor performance, because they gave away 29 wickets to the African spinners and there’s no justification for the way they played in the second innings. Also Bangladesh can learn a lot from this defeat and work on improving their game, because I feel with some more efforts they can improve their overall game and provide tough challenge to their opponents.

People may be right or wrong in criticising Bangladesh but Bangladesh are in no mood of learning anything from there mistakes. They need to build a strong domestic infrastructure which can produce quality players from grass root level. You can only have a strong team if your domestic setup has quality FC or list A games

One thing I really don't understand is that these players are supposed to be the best in Bangladesh because I assume that's why they are on the national team.

If this is the performance that can be produced by the best in Bangladesh I really don't know what to say.  Undecided

Can anyone talk about what happened to Mehidy Miraz? That occurrence alone can tell us what goes in the mindset of the Bangladesh cricketers when they are playing test cricket.

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April 13, 2022, 06:03:06 AM
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One thing I really don't understand is that these players are supposed to be the best in Bangladesh because I assume that's why they are on the national team.

If this is the performance that can be produced by the best in Bangladesh I really don't know what to say.  Undecided

Can anyone talk about what happened to Mehidy Miraz? That occurrence alone can tell us what goes in the mindset of the Bangladesh cricketers when they are playing test cricket.

Bangladesh has proper domestic infrastructure and I don't know why that domestic setup cant produce any quality Test team till date. Remember this is South Africa second Sting team and against them Bangladesh were bowled out for 53 in 1st test and on 80 in second test.
The positive thing for SA from this series is that "they are not throwing the doors open to welcome back the IPL absentees who "vacated their spots", as coach Mark Boucher put it, after finding a strong second-tier of players in their series sweep over Bangladesh. (source) "
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