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December 18, 2020, 10:51:54 AM
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Tim Paine trying desperately to take Australia beyond the 200 mark. I don't think that they will be able to get in to a lead, but if they can keep India's lead below 50 runs, then they have a fighting chance in this match. Surprised with the performance from Ashwin. The track hardly gave any support to the spinners and yet he managed to pick up four very important wickets.
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December 18, 2020, 10:52:21 AM
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Pheww...

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Marnus's ran out of his luck, Umesh finished the job for India. Aussie are now 6 down.
Phewwwwwww, Australia lost their 7th wicket, the worst performance by them in their home soil. They need to change how they play cricket, from aggressive world class players who dominated every team they are play a different brand of cricket which is not exciting and a run rate of just 2 and even though India is missing the catches and giving them opportunities Australia failed to make any impact.
Bowlers doing their job beautifully but fielders letting down their bowlers. first they gave 3 chances to Marnus and now Aggarwal dropped Tim Paine.. If they want to win the game then wrap it up as quickly as possible.


Exhuisite performance by Indian bowlers. I thought only pacers would be the hero on this tour but Ravichandran Ashwin had some different plans today. I am pretty happy to see the classic spinners Era coming back gone are those days of Unorthodox mystery spinner who worked for just a couple of tours. If India can bowl out Australia under 200 and then can put up another 250 on the board I am pretty sure this would become an easy game for India. I was abusing Indian batsmen for batting so naively looks like Australians are much more surprised at their own home grounds. Even the might Smith couldn't do a thing. Thankfully opened his account otherwise he would have been named the Australian Prithvi Shaw.  Grin

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Paine wants to ensure he remains captain even after this tour and Smith is not considered for Captaincy anytime in the near future.  Grin
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December 18, 2020, 11:05:55 AM
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~snip~

Exhuisite performance by Indian bowlers. I thought only pacers would be the hero on this tour but Ravichandran Ashwin had some different plans today. I am pretty happy to see the classic spinners Era coming back gone are those days of Unorthodox mystery spinner who worked for just a couple of tours. If India can bowl out Australia under 200 and then can put up another 250 on the board I am pretty sure this would become an easy game for India. I was abusing Indian batsmen for batting so naively looks like Australians are much more surprised at their own home grounds. Even the might Smith couldn't do a thing. Thankfully opened his account otherwise he would have been named the Australian Prithvi Shaw.  Grin
I only shouted MC, BC on Prithvi Shaw when he dropped Marnus.

Very happy for Ashwin, he was game changer for India. I hope he play next game as well, hoping because he has a habit of getting injured or going down the hill after every series opener despite performing well.

For now India need to face some tough time,  11 8 overs are left, tricky period under the lights.

Australia might be looking for at least 2 wickets tonight. India would be very happy if they lose only 1 wicket or may be wicketless.

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December 18, 2020, 01:26:11 PM
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Exhuisite performance by Indian bowlers. I thought only pacers would be the hero on this tour but Ravichandran Ashwin had some different plans today. I am pretty happy to see the classic spinners Era coming back gone are those days of Unorthodox mystery spinner who worked for just a couple of tours. If India can bowl out Australia under 200 and then can put up another 250 on the board I am pretty sure this would become an easy game for India. I was abusing Indian batsmen for batting so naively looks like Australians are much more surprised at their own home grounds. Even the might Smith couldn't do a thing. Thankfully opened his account otherwise he would have been named the Australian Prithvi Shaw.  Grin
I only shouted MC, BC on Prithvi Shaw when he dropped Marnus.

Very happy for Ashwin, he was game changer for India. I hope he play next game as well, hoping because he has a habit of getting injured or going down the hill after every series opener despite performing well.

For now India need to face some tough time,  11 8 overs are left, tricky period under the lights.

Australia might be looking for at least 2 wickets tonight. India would be very happy if they lose only 1 wicket or may be wicketless.
Alright as you wished India completed day 2 with the loss of only 1 wicket and got the lead of 62 runs, Prithvi Shaw failed again which clearly shows why experience is more important in a red ball cricket. But from on both teams need to play extremely well to win this match because it is not possible to draw this match from here so either a win or a loss for each team to face at the end of this match.
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December 18, 2020, 03:57:58 PM
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Very happy for Ashwin, he was game changer for India. I hope he play next game as well, hoping because he has a habit of getting injured or going down the hill after every series opener despite performing well.
Am not surprised at all to be honest. Ashwin and Jadeja have been the best Indian spin bowling combo for a while now primarily overseas.

These guys pile on the pressure by making the batsmen waste balls who usually go on to play bad shots and get out in the process. Is Jadeja injured or something? Why isn't he a part of this match?

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December 18, 2020, 04:01:54 PM
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Exhuisite performance by Indian bowlers. I thought only pacers would be the hero on this tour but Ravichandran Ashwin had some different plans today. I am pretty happy to see the classic spinners Era coming back gone are those days of Unorthodox mystery spinner who worked for just a couple of tours. If India can bowl out Australia under 200 and then can put up another 250 on the board I am pretty sure this would become an easy game for India. I was abusing Indian batsmen for batting so naively looks like Australians are much more surprised at their own home grounds. Even the might Smith couldn't do a thing. Thankfully opened his account otherwise he would have been named the Australian Prithvi Shaw.  Grin
I only shouted MC, BC on Prithvi Shaw when he dropped Marnus.

Very happy for Ashwin, he was game changer for India. I hope he play next game as well, hoping because he has a habit of getting injured or going down the hill after every series opener despite performing well.

For now India need to face some tough time,  11 8 overs are left, tricky period under the lights.

Australia might be looking for at least 2 wickets tonight. India would be very happy if they lose only 1 wicket or may be wicketless.
Alright as you wished India completed day 2 with the loss of only 1 wicket and got the lead of 62 runs, Prithvi Shaw failed again which clearly shows why experience is more important in a red ball cricket. But from on both teams need to play extremely well to win this match because it is not possible to draw this match from here so either a win or a loss for each team to face at the end of this match.

As expected that if India lose early wicket at start of the day they will end up quickly and happened the same way. But the way India wrapped up OZ for just 191 is highly commendable and Ashwin and Yadav were superb in their spells. Unfortunately, bad start again for Shaw and losing a early wicket this time as well. But good thing is that India has a lead of now 62 runs and somewhere 300+ target if set for OZ then would be difficult for them in the 4th innings.

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December 18, 2020, 04:52:20 PM
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As expected that if India lose early wicket at start of the day they will end up quickly and happened the same way. But the way India wrapped up OZ for just 191 is highly commendable and Ashwin and Yadav were superb in their spells. Unfortunately, bad start again for Shaw and losing a early wicket this time as well. But good thing is that India has a lead of now 62 runs and somewhere 300+ target if set for OZ then would be difficult for them in the 4th innings.

Target of 300 plus will be too tough for the Indian batsmen. I think 250 should be enough, and for that India need to make total of 190-200 in the second innings. Any addition after this will increase their probability of winning. Ashwin bowled really well during the first innings. So we can expect him to perform even better, when Australia comes to bat next. But anything can happen, as Starc and Cummins are in excellent form.
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As expected that if India lose early wicket at start of the day they will end up quickly and happened the same way. But the way India wrapped up OZ for just 191 is highly commendable and Ashwin and Yadav were superb in their spells. Unfortunately, bad start again for Shaw and losing a early wicket this time as well. But good thing is that India has a lead of now 62 runs and somewhere 300+ target if set for OZ then would be difficult for them in the 4th innings.

Target of 300 plus will be too tough for the Indian batsmen. I think 250 should be enough, and for that India need to make total of 190-200 in the second innings. Any addition after this will increase their probability of winning. Ashwin bowled really well during the first innings. So we can expect him to perform even better, when Australia comes to bat next. But anything can happen, as Starc and Cummins are in excellent form.
Maybe the second innings can turn out to be high score innings on both sides because this is exactly what happened in the practice match between AUS A vs IND and ended up in a draw. Ashwin spells will be very crucial in the last innings and if the balls still find gripping then India will be over the AUS even in the chase of 250+ runs. The important thing is India needs to face more balls without losing many wickets in the first 10 to 15 overs of day 3 first session.
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December 18, 2020, 05:17:29 PM
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Maybe the second innings can turn out to be high score innings on both sides because this is exactly what happened in the practice match between AUS A vs IND and ended up in a draw. Ashwin spells will be very crucial in the last innings and if the balls still find gripping then India will be over the AUS even in the chase of 250+ runs. The important thing is India needs to face more balls without losing many wickets in the first 10 to 15 overs of day 3 first session.

Yeah.. agreed. The initial 10-15 overs are going to be crucial. Lyon was expensive during the first innings and the Indian batsmen should target him (he conceded 68 runs in his 21 overs, and picked just one wicket). The strategy should be to play cautiously against Starc/Cummins/Hazlewood and to score runs when Lyon/Green/Labuschagne are bowling. But at least one among the top-5 batsmen need to make a century tomorrow.
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December 18, 2020, 05:21:51 PM
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As expected that if India lose early wicket at start of the day they will end up quickly and happened the same way. But the way India wrapped up OZ for just 191 is highly commendable and Ashwin and Yadav were superb in their spells. Unfortunately, bad start again for Shaw and losing a early wicket this time as well. But good thing is that India has a lead of now 62 runs and somewhere 300+ target if set for OZ then would be difficult for them in the 4th innings.

Target of 300 plus will be too tough for the Indian batsmen. I think 250 should be enough, and for that India need to make total of 190-200 in the second innings. Any addition after this will increase their probability of winning. Ashwin bowled really well during the first innings. So we can expect him to perform even better, when Australia comes to bat next. But anything can happen, as Starc and Cummins are in excellent form.
India lead by 63 runs, hopefully India consolidates its position on day 3 anyway, 300 lead I will do wonders on this pitch. Ashwin changed his bowling style for this tour so he could get more spin and make use of the extra bounce. Up until now, It's working out appropriately and amazing us being the principle wicket takers, overall on a great bowling day for India.

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December 18, 2020, 05:24:38 PM
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As expected that if India lose early wicket at start of the day they will end up quickly and happened the same way. But the way India wrapped up OZ for just 191 is highly commendable and Ashwin and Yadav were superb in their spells. Unfortunately, bad start again for Shaw and losing a early wicket this time as well. But good thing is that India has a lead of now 62 runs and somewhere 300+ target if set for OZ then would be difficult for them in the 4th innings.

Target of 300 plus will be too tough for the Indian batsmen. I think 250 should be enough, and for that India need to make total of 190-200 in the second innings. Any addition after this will increase their probability of winning. Ashwin bowled really well during the first innings. So we can expect him to perform even better, when Australia comes to bat next. But anything can happen, as Starc and Cummins are in excellent form.
India lead by 63 runs, hopefully India consolidates its position on day 3 anyway, 300 lead I will do wonders on this pitch. Ashwin changed his bowling style for this tour so he could get more spin and make use of the extra bounce. Up until now, It's working out appropriately and amazing us being the principle wicket takers, overall on a great bowling day for India.
Now tomorrow is third day of first test match now India in doing very good if they able to bat all day then surely they able to bring under pressure and can win this test match which could be great advanatage for them in rest of series as Kohli is going back home after this match but first of all they need to bat good and stay on crease with positive mind in second inning Ashwin surely going to be match winner for them here in this first test.
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December 18, 2020, 05:37:20 PM
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India lead by 63 runs, hopefully India consolidates its position on day 3 anyway, 300 lead I will do wonders on this pitch. Ashwin changed his bowling style for this tour so he could get more spin and make use of the extra bounce. Up until now, It's working out appropriately and amazing us being the principle wicket takers, overall on a great bowling day for India.

Absence of David Warner has impacted the performance of Australia. It put a lot of pressure on Steve Smith, and he couldn't cope with it. Among the Australian batsmen, apart from Marnus Labuschagne and Tim Paine, none of the others managed to make more than 11 runs. I don't know why Joe Burns was included in the playing XI, after scoring 5 runs in 4 innings for Australia A.
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December 18, 2020, 05:44:34 PM
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As expected that if India lose early wicket at start of the day they will end up quickly and happened the same way. But the way India wrapped up OZ for just 191 is highly commendable and Ashwin and Yadav were superb in their spells. Unfortunately, bad start again for Shaw and losing a early wicket this time as well. But good thing is that India has a lead of now 62 runs and somewhere 300+ target if set for OZ then would be difficult for them in the 4th innings.

Target of 300 plus will be too tough for the Indian batsmen. I think 250 should be enough, and for that India need to make total of 190-200 in the second innings. Any addition after this will increase their probability of winning. Ashwin bowled really well during the first innings. So we can expect him to perform even better, when Australia comes to bat next. But anything can happen, as Starc and Cummins are in excellent form.
India lead by 63 runs, hopefully India consolidates its position on day 3 anyway, 300 lead I will do wonders on this pitch. Ashwin changed his bowling style for this tour so he could get more spin and make use of the extra bounce. Up until now, It's working out appropriately and amazing us being the principle wicket takers, overall on a great bowling day for India.
Probably change in the bowling action is a reason why OZ batsmen can't judge the balls which may be overcome by them in the next inning if staffs have done proper analysis about the bowling style and which kind of action leads to which balls. I am not sure that India can bat throughout the day if they lose one or two wickets in the first 15 overs itself because it will bring extra pressure and can collapse the total batting lineup.
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December 18, 2020, 06:09:21 PM
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Absence of David Warner has impacted the performance of Australia. It put a lot of pressure on Steve Smith, and he couldn't cope with it. Among the Australian batsmen, apart from Marnus Labuschagne and Tim Paine, none of the others managed to make more than 11 runs. I don't know why Joe Burns was included in the playing XI, after scoring 5 runs in 4 innings for Australia A.
This applies to both teams basically. The Indian team is missing players like Rohit, Jadeja, Ishant and even Kohli soon while Australia is missing players like Warner etc.

This is an awesome opportunity for new players from both teams to showcase their talents. Newbies from both sides have mostly disappointed everyone with their performances so far(Primarily Shaw).

I wonder how India will perform without Kohli in the upcoming matches since Australia will gain the upper hand.

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December 18, 2020, 06:31:33 PM
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Absence of David Warner has impacted the performance of Australia. It put a lot of pressure on Steve Smith, and he couldn't cope with it. Among the Australian batsmen, apart from Marnus Labuschagne and Tim Paine, none of the others managed to make more than 11 runs. I don't know why Joe Burns was included in the playing XI, after scoring 5 runs in 4 innings for Australia A.
Labuschagne did play some good shots but he didn't impressed much as batsman in the first inning, he's extremely talented individual and i am fan of his batting but the runs he scored after 3 drop catches doesn't justify his talent. He was just lucky today.

This applies to both teams basically. The Indian team is missing players like Rohit, Jadeja, Ishant and even Kohli soon while Australia is missing players like Warner etc.

This is an awesome opportunity for new players from both teams to showcase their talents. Newbies from both sides have mostly disappointed everyone with their performances so far(Primarily Shaw).

I wonder how India will perform without Kohli in the upcoming matches since Australia will gain the upper hand.
Don't know why everyone talk about Rohit and Test in same context. He's great in limited overs but arguably one of the biggest failure in the test cricket. I would like him to make big in Test cricket but he failed to perform majority of time.

If Rohit comes back then team management should  try him at the top order and see if he clicks otherwise he has no test career whatsoever. Fair amount of players coming at the middle order, Even Jadeja can bat sometimes. After Kohli departure Gill should replace him at number 4, he looked promising and performed well in warm up games.

At top order, will support Shaw for a long run but he's in really bad form atm so it would be good if he's rested or dropped for next games otherwise his confidence will go down similar to Pant (in the limited overs). These young guys are talented, they don't need cheerleaders but guidance.

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December 18, 2020, 06:59:00 PM
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India is already down to the tail, and I would consider Ravichandran Ashwin as a tail-ender rather than lower-order batsman.
What ever be the case Ravichandran Ashwin has four centuries and he has a much better batting average than a common lower order batsman, i expected India to fold before 250 runs and that was achieved but i did not expect Australia to struggle like this which is really disappointing as i expected the top order to bat well rather they were too defensive and lost the wickets.
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December 18, 2020, 07:27:00 PM
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Don't know why everyone talk about Rohit and Test in same context. He's great in limited overs but arguably one of the biggest failure in the test cricket. I would like him to make big in Test cricket but he failed to perform majority of time.
Everyone still remembers his T20 and ODI performance and we are playing a Test after a long gap and the last series Rohit Sharma played was against Bangladesh and he did not make any impact as an opener, may be the team will give him more opportunities but i want to see youngster filling the spot.

At top order, will support Shaw for a long run but he's in really bad form atm so it would be good if he's rested or dropped for next games otherwise his confidence will go down similar to Pant (in the limited overs). These young guys are talented, they don't need cheerleaders but guidance.
Shaw is struggling with his defense and he might be dropped for the next game and expect Shubman Gill getting an opportunity.
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December 18, 2020, 08:51:23 PM
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India is already down to the tail, and I would consider Ravichandran Ashwin as a tail-ender rather than lower-order batsman.
What ever be the case Ravichandran Ashwin has four centuries and he has a much better batting average than a common lower order batsman, i expected India to fold before 250 runs and that was achieved but i did not expect Australia to struggle like this which is really disappointing as i expected the top order to bat well rather they were too defensive and lost the wickets.
Ashwin was in the top all-rounder list of international test ranking for a very long time which clearly shows that his batting ability in long format but he is still not a regular batsman to score a century, he can make some good contribution of 30+ runs at crucial times. I think Nathon Lyon vs Ashwin made the real difference, so if AUS wants to win this match then Lyon needs to perform well on the current innings.
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December 18, 2020, 10:07:47 PM
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This was to be expected, as I said day/night test matches have always been like this where the scores are low and wickets fall quickly. That is why yesterday I said that India still have a big chance in this test match even though they scored a low total and now as we see Australia didn't even score 200 runs and its not because players are missing from the teams its because day/night test matches always seem to favour the bowlers especially the night sessions. History has shown that batting at night is extremely difficult even for the best batsman of the world. This will not end in a draw like the tour match as there is still a lot of time in this match for a result.

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December 18, 2020, 11:59:07 PM
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Ashwin was in the top all-rounder list of international test ranking for a very long time which clearly shows that his batting ability in long format but he is still not a regular batsman to score a century, he can make some good contribution of 30+ runs at crucial times. I think Nathon Lyon vs Ashwin made the real difference, so if AUS wants to win this match then Lyon needs to perform well on the current innings.
Ashwin is in the team for his bowling skills and he is one of the top spinners in world cricket even though he does not have a place in the shorter format as the level of competition is high and his batting skills are a bonus while playing in difficult pitches.  

This was to be expected, as I said day/night test matches have always been like this where the scores are low and wickets fall quickly. 
The competition is still exciting even though the scores are low and the ball is seaming with the pink ball and it will test a batsman and that is what i like to watch in a match rather than a draw with huge runs by both teams.
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