Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[JSRAW]

But they don't find anything wrong in hosting Indian team for full 3 months?

May be they are in need of the revenue

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it is not financially viable for Cricket Australia to spend so much on logistics just for one test and a few T20 matches.

Yes, aware of revenue and logistics angle but i was merely pointing at hypocrisy level. During that time they are already going ahead with the Shield cricket so hosting Afghan is not a big task.

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[Vishnu.Reang]

Yes, aware of revenue and logistics angle but i was merely pointing at hypocrisy level. During that time they are already going ahead with the Shield cricket so hosting Afghan is not a big task.

No foreign players are taking part in Sheffield Shield and therefore the 14-day quarantine is not required. On the other hand, the Afghan team will be arriving from India (I think they are based in Noida now) and therefore the quarantine formalities need to be honored. The contingent can be pretty big, if you include the training staff, managers.etc along with the players.

[JSRAW]

Yes, aware of revenue and logistics angle but i was merely pointing at hypocrisy level. During that time they are already going ahead with the Shield cricket so hosting Afghan is not a big task.

No foreign players are taking part in Sheffield Shield and therefore the 14-day quarantine is not required. On the other hand, the Afghan team will be arriving from India (I think they are based in Noida now) and therefore the quarantine formalities need to be honored. The contingent can be pretty big, if you include the training staff, managers.etc along with the players.

Big Bash League Women is also schedule in Oct-Nov and facilitating around 15ish foreign Women players in Sydney if i am not wrong.

[bryant.coleman]

The latest news from Cricket Australia is that the test match with Afghanistan may be cancelled (instead of postponing). The ODI series against New Zealand also looks very unlikely to happen this year. For the Australian team, the next major outing will be against India. They will be playing a total of four test matches, three ODIs and three T20Is. The match between Australia and Afghanistan was originally scheduled from November 21 to 25.

[Swordsoffreedom]

The latest news from Cricket Australia is that the test match with Afghanistan may be cancelled (instead of postponing). The ODI series against New Zealand also looks very unlikely to happen this year. For the Australian team, the next major outing will be against India. They will be playing a total of four test matches, three ODIs and three T20Is. The match between Australia and Afghanistan was originally scheduled from November 21 to 25.

I don't think anyone will be unhappy if the test match between Australia and Afghanistan is postponed. Because the match will be one sided. A team like Afghanistan is like a child in test match against Australia. May be Afghanistan played well in the ODI match but they still could not good enough in the test match. I would be happy if Australia played with New-Zealand or India

[Juggy777]

The latest news from Cricket Australia is that the test match with Afghanistan may be cancelled (instead of postponing). The ODI series against New Zealand also looks very unlikely to happen this year. For the Australian team, the next major outing will be against India. They will be playing a total of four test matches, three ODIs and three T20Is. The match between Australia and Afghanistan was originally scheduled from November 21 to 25.

I don't think anyone will  be unhappy if the test match between Australia and Afghanistan is postponed . Because the match will be one sided . A team like Afghanistan is like a child in test match against Australia . May be Afghanistan played well in the ODI match but they still could not good enough in the test match. I would be happy if Australia played New Zealand or India

@Swordsoffreedom I disagree with your point of view because Afghanistan player’s deserved this match, as it would help their player’s get valuable experience while playing against a top team like Australia. Furthermore whether they win or loose is a different matter, but CA should not cancel it just because it will bring them less revenue when compared to the revenues that they’ll gain from the Indian series.

Source:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/sep/25/cricket-australia-postpones-afghanistan-test-and-new-zealand-odi (As per this article it’s postponed, so can you post link where it say they’re cancelling it.)

[Vishnu.Reang]

I don't think anyone will  be unhappy if the test match between Australia and Afghanistan is postponed . Because the match will be one sided . A team like Afghanistan is like a child in test match against Australia . May be Afghanistan played well in the ODI match but they still could not good enough in the test match. I would be happy if Australia played New Zealand or India

This is not a proper justification. Currently the big 3 teams are far ahead of the other test nations. We have one-sided matches whenever these nations play against smaller nations such as West Indies or Sri Lanka. But that doesn't mean that we should limit test cricket to just three nations. We have 12 teams with test status and they should be allowed to play against each other.

[Swordsoffreedom]

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Furthermore whether they win or loose is a different matter, but CA should not cancel it just because it will bring them less revenue when compared to the revenues that they’ll gain from the Indian series.
Source:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/sep/25/cricket-australia-postpones-afghanistan-test-and-new-zealand-odi (As per this article it’s postponed, so can you post link where it say they’re cancelling it.)

Yes, I also said it is postponed.

I don't think anyone will  be unhappy if the test match between Australia and Afghanistan is postponed . Because the match will be one sided . A team like Afghanistan is like a child in test match against Australia . May be Afghanistan played well in the ODI match but they still could not good enough in the test match. I would be happy if Australia played New Zealand or India

This is not a proper justification. Currently the big 3 teams are far ahead of the other test nations. We have one-sided matches whenever these nations play against smaller nations such as West Indies or Sri Lanka. But that doesn't mean that we should limit test cricket to just three nations. We have 12 teams with test status and they should be allowed to play against each other.

@Swordsoffreedom I disagree with your point of view because Afghanistan player’s deserved this match, as it would help their player’s get valuable experience while playing against a top team like Australia.
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If the test match will happen then it will be helpful for Afghanistan's players. As well it will grow their test skills. Though it will be not so enjoyable to the viewers. Look If the match will happen between Afghanistan vs Sri-Lanka or Bangladesh then it will be more enjoyable and good enough for the both teams (Afghanistan team and the viewers).
 
On the other hand, If the match goes for an ODI series then I think that will be more interesting and perfect, because you know Afghanistan team is far better in ODI than test matches.

[JSRAW]

For some reason i am getting bored with the ODI format unless teams playing ODI series around World Cup. ODI hype dies after World Cup concludes so i don't mind if they cancelling odi tour or i would say play less ODI bilateral series after WC, Same with the T-20 WC.

Don't stop but play less games, it keep interest alive or may be play Trilateral/quadrilateral series.. and then focus on the Red ball cricket instead.

[Bitcoin577]

For some reason i am getting bored with the ODI format unless teams playing ODI series around World Cup. ODI hype dies after World Cup concludes so i don't mind if they cancelling odi tour or i would say play less ODI bilateral series after WC, Same with the T-20 WC.

Don't stop but play less games, it keep interest alive or may be play Trilateral/quadrilateral series.. and then focus on the Red ball cricket instead.

One thing is sure now Twenty/20 is doing his business as peoples bore with ODI and want something better then this which is only twenty/20 but ICC will not do any action until they have very solid replacement for this Test and Twenty/20 both formats can do some better and dropping ODI will not bring any serious damage but if they want to keep alive this then surely bring some better solutions like @JSRAW saying only triseries or quadrilateral can bring some good number of crowd.

[Vishnu.Reang]

For some reason i am getting bored with the ODI format unless teams playing ODI series around World Cup. ODI hype dies after World Cup concludes so i don't mind if they cancelling odi tour or i would say play less ODI bilateral series after WC, Same with the T-20 WC.

Don't stop but play less games, it keep interest alive or may be play Trilateral/quadrilateral series.. and then focus on the Red ball cricket instead.

In the past, triangular or even quadrangular tournaments were more common. Especially when played in neutral venues such as Sharjah, Singapore and Toronto. But nowadays the teams are focusing only on bilateral series and they don't have time for such tournaments. And that said, the interest in ODI seems to be declining, as the fans are migrating to T20.

[JSRAW]

For some reason i am getting bored with the ODI format unless teams playing ODI series around World Cup. ODI hype dies after World Cup concludes so i don't mind if they cancelling odi tour or i would say play less ODI bilateral series after WC, Same with the T-20 WC.

Don't stop but play less games, it keep interest alive or may be play Trilateral/quadrilateral series.. and then focus on the Red ball cricket instead.

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 @JSRAW saying only triseries or quadrilateral can bring some good number of crowd.

Not disagreeing but clarifying that i didn't mean to say that ODI format struggling to attract crowd. Just getting bored with the mindless bilateral series.

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In the past, triangular or even quadrangular tournaments were more common. Especially when played in neutral venues such as Sharjah, Singapore and Toronto. But nowadays the teams are focusing only on bilateral series and they don't have time for such tournaments. And that said, the interest in ODI seems to be declining, as the fans are migrating to T20.

I am in very much favor of Tri/Quad series in ODI/T-20. At the end everyone wants interesting series not some useless Bilateral. for ex 2 teams playing ODI series just after ODI WC, its seems pathetic lol

[bryant.coleman]

I am in very much favor of Tri/Quad series in ODI/T-20. At the end everyone wants interesting series not some useless Bilateral. for ex 2 teams playing ODI series just after ODI WC, its seems pathetic lol

The reason why we are seeing less number of such tournaments is that the ICC has come up with the ODI Championship. ICC full members are required to play a certain number of matches against each other and the matches from tri/quad series doesn't count for this ODI Championship. The international cricketing calendar is already crowded and the teams don't have any incentive to play matches outside the ICC ODI Championship.

[JSRAW]

I am in very much favor of Tri/Quad series in ODI/T-20. At the end everyone wants interesting series not some useless Bilateral. for ex 2 teams playing ODI series just after ODI WC, its seems pathetic lol

The reason why we are seeing less number of such tournaments is that the ICC has come up with the ODI Championship. ICC full members are required to play a certain number of matches against each other and the matches from tri/quad series doesn't count for this ODI Championship. The international cricketing calendar is already crowded and the teams don't have any incentive to play matches outside the ICC ODI Championship.

BCCI/Ganguly was proposing Quad/tri series. Hopefully its kicks on...
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I just checked it..

It says every team (Total 13 teams, Full members + Netherlands)  need to play 8 ODI series before next WC 2023 (4 home + 4 away) basically similar to Test championship.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I don't understand the logic for not counting triangular/quadrangular tournaments in the ODI championship. They are more interesting when compared to bilateral ODI matches, which can be repetitive. If the ICC wants a minimum of 3 matches, then let there be 3 matches each between each of the teams. So instead of each team playing the other once or twice, they can do it three times. The winner should be decided on the basis of points and there should not be any "final" match.

[eaLiTy]

The winner should be decided on the basis of points and there should not be any "final" match.

The interest lay on having a final rather than winning a competition through points, they could promote the match as the final and that could attract more viewers in front of the television and in the stadium and the beauty of triangular or quadrangular tournaments is the best two teams will play for the title.

@JSRAW is there a chance we would see the world cup getting extended. We need to give every team a fair chance to get qualified and i have not seen their scheduling on when they are planning to resume cricket again.

[bryant.coleman]

The winner should be decided on the basis of points and there should not be any "final" match.

The interest lay on having a final rather than winning a competition through points, they could promote the match as the final and that could attract more viewers in front of the television and in the stadium and the beauty of triangular or quadrangular tournaments is the best two teams will play for the title.

@JSRAW is there a chance we would see the world cup getting extended. We need to give every team a fair chance to get qualified and i have not seen their scheduling on when they are planning to resume cricket again.

Yes. Final matches attract above average viewership. What the ICC needs to do is to allow the matches of ODI championship to be played as tri/quad series. Unless big 3 nations are taking part, the bilateral serieses attracts very low interest from the fans nowadays. If the number if teams are increased, then there is a chance that the TV viewership will increase as well.

[JSRAW]

@JSRAW is there a chance we would see the world cup getting extended. We need to give every team a fair chance to get qualified and i have not seen their scheduling on when they are planning to resume cricket again.

Not sure bhai..

Ideally ICC should make some arrangements in this regard but they didn't discuss this in any meeting, even cricket boards are not raising (except test series) this issue at least nothing came into media so far.

[shamimal93]

For some reason i am getting bored with the ODI format unless teams playing ODI series around World Cup. ODI hype dies after World Cup concludes so i don't mind if they cancelling odi tour or i would say play less ODI bilateral series after WC, Same with the T-20 WC.

Don't stop but play less games, it keep interest alive or may be play Trilateral/quadrilateral series.. and then focus on the Red ball cricket instead.

You have discussed a good topic.  I totally agree with your opinion.  The game should never be stopped.  ODI cricket should be kept on at least. And if that is not possible then at least T20 cricket should be kept on. We see that there is not a match when the World Cup is over.  I think bilateral or trilateral matches are good for cricket.

[bryant.coleman]

You have discussed a good topic.  I totally agree with your opinion.  The game should never be stopped.  ODI cricket should be kept on at least. And if that is not possible then at least T20 cricket should be kept on. We see that there is not a match when the World Cup is over.  I think bilateral or trilateral matches are good for cricket.

Many of the cricket boards are in difficult financial situation. So they may prioritize the franchise cricket leagues over international cricket. For example, the BCCI receives most of its revenue from the IPL (which lasts for just 1.5 months). The same can be said about Cricket Australia (BBL) and the WICB (CPL). Even when international tours are being organized, test matches will receive the lowest priority.