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August 15, 2020, 06:43:42 AM
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Both teams known for their batting collapse and looking at current scenario Pakistan already reached at respectable total. Pitch is still alive so who knows if its low total game, we might see result despite bad weather.

Two days gone and not even one innings completed till now. I would be really surprised, if this match doesn't end up as another boring draw. Weather predictions are also not looking that great. Heavy rains are predicted for the next three days and we can expect the same situation we had during the first two days. I don't expect more than 100-150 overs of play to happen in the remaining three days.
Your calculation is not wrong as weather forecast backing your statement but you are under estimating mighty modern day batsmen.. Pun intended  Grin

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August 15, 2020, 07:50:34 AM
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England team would be disappointed because when they perform well things become more difficult for them in a way.
I admit that England has been facing a lot of bad luck these days like rain interference when they are in winning positions etc due to which their chances of ending up in the top 3 of the WTC drastically decrease with time.

Your calculation is not wrong as weather forecast backing your statement but you are under estimating mighty modern day batsmen.. Pun intended  Grin
Lol. Inzamam is saying the same thing about how the Pakistan batsmen are getting scared to play big shots. Makes sense though since Pakistan are basically looking for a draw at this point are doing whatever it takes to not get out.

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August 15, 2020, 10:58:42 AM
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Makes sense though since Pakistan are basically looking for a draw at this point are doing whatever it takes to not get out.

Don't know what Pakistan team is looking for but we as an audience wanted to see the match in action regardless of who win or who lose. The series is played after a long delay due to covid but it is spoiled by the weather.  Undecided

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August 15, 2020, 11:18:51 AM
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Only thing now remain is that how less the match happens the match’s just goes in favour of the draw.
Google predictions suggest a 90% draw chance which basically means that this match is over at this point. Pakistan were lucky to escape here while England will probably be cursing the weather currently.

Despite the pandemic issues, the boards organized these tournaments, but rain played spoil-sport once again. Its a good thing that IPL 2020 takes place at the end of the year since weather issues will probably be on the lower side.

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August 15, 2020, 11:39:25 AM
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Only thing now remain is that how less the match happens the match’s just goes in favour of the draw.
Google predictions suggest a 90% draw chance which basically means that this match is over at this point. Pakistan were lucky to escape here while England will probably be cursing the weather currently.

Despite the pandemic issues, the boards organized these tournaments, but rain played spoil-sport once again. Its a good thing that IPL 2020 takes place at the end of the year since weather issues will probably be on the lower side.

I always come up with the odds at the crucial time of the match. This time is to bet on the draw for this match.
Below are the odds for your reference.

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Pakistani team right now, no one minds free points when you are down on the point table....


English team needs points to get on top but rain messing up with him. BTW They don't need our best wishes, they are already riding lucky horse if we think about last 2 year cricket.

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August 15, 2020, 04:23:00 PM
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Pakistani team right now, no one minds free points when you are down on the point table....

This is not right. Why teams should split the points in case of rain interruption? Ideally the team that will win the series should get the maximum points. Else rain interruption may prove beneficial for the weaker teams and very much disadvantageous for the stronger teams. It may also give an incentive to the weaker teams, to stage test matches during the rainy season.
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August 15, 2020, 04:38:19 PM
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Pakistani team right now, no one minds free points when you are down on the point table....

This is not right. Why teams should split the points in case of rain interruption? Ideally the team that will win the series should get the maximum points. Else rain interruption may prove beneficial for the weaker teams and very much disadvantageous for the stronger teams. It may also give an incentive to the weaker teams, to stage test matches during the rainy season.

Just for your information, the weaker teams has no control over the ICC to stage the test matches in rainy season. Its the ICC who make the matches schedule and England is the part of the big 3 teams which make the decisions.

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August 15, 2020, 04:42:37 PM
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English team needs points to get on top but rain messing up with him. BTW They don't need our best wishes, they are already riding lucky horse if we think about last 2 year cricket.

It was a frustrating day for the England team as they desperately want the match to resume so that they can win it. Another issue for them is that tomorrow weather forecast is not good either, infect it is more worse then today and i don't think any game is possible tomorrow. Both teams should now focus on the final test and hope it brings a result.
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August 15, 2020, 05:46:15 PM
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English team needs points to get on top but rain messing up with him. BTW They don't need our best wishes, they are already riding lucky horse if we think about last 2 year cricket.

It was a frustrating day for the England team as they desperately want the match to resume so that they can win it. Another issue for them is that tomorrow weather forecast is not good either, infect it is more worse then today and i don't think any game is possible tomorrow. Both teams should now focus on the final test and hope it brings a result.

Just two days remain now and it is impossible to get a result unless both the teams agree to forfeit one innings each. This is going to be suicidal for Pakistan, since they don't have enough runs on board. So my guess is that they will settle for a draw, which will be beneficial for them in the ICC World Test Championship. And another issue is that rain is predicted for the remaining two days as well. 

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August 15, 2020, 07:36:52 PM
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English team needs points to get on top but rain messing up with him. BTW They don't need our best wishes, they are already riding lucky horse if we think about last 2 year cricket.

It was a frustrating day for the England team as they desperately want the match to resume so that they can win it. Another issue for them is that tomorrow weather forecast is not good either, infect it is more worse then today and i don't think any game is possible tomorrow. Both teams should now focus on the final test and hope it brings a result.

Just two days remain now and it is impossible to get a result unless both the teams agree to forfeit one innings each. This is going to be suicidal for Pakistan, since they don't have enough runs on board. So my guess is that they will settle for a draw, which will be beneficial for them in the ICC World Test Championship. And another issue is that rain is predicted for the remaining two days as well. 
Pakistan will never go with any suggestion like this forfeit an inning is just like commiting suicide for them right now they are happy with this position as they was surely going to lost this match by big margin now settling for draw is very big favour for them by this rain so now they can do some better in third and final test but I am not hopeful because they are not good enough for this series after losing first test very narrowly.
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August 15, 2020, 07:37:29 PM
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English team needs points to get on top but rain messing up with him. BTW They don't need our best wishes, they are already riding lucky horse if we think about last 2 year cricket.

It was a frustrating day for the England team as they desperately want the match to resume so that they can win it. Another issue for them is that tomorrow weather forecast is not good either, infect it is more worse then today and i don't think any game is possible tomorrow. Both teams should now focus on the final test and hope it brings a result.

Just two days remain now and it is impossible to get a result unless both the teams agree to forfeit one innings each. This is going to be suicidal for Pakistan, since they don't have enough runs on board. So my guess is that they will settle for a draw, which will be beneficial for them in the ICC World Test Championship. And another issue is that rain is predicted for the remaining two days as well.  

There is no such rule in the test match to forfeit the innings. I do not understand why people give such ideas which cannot be implemented in the match and are out of scope from the cricketing rules point of view. If both the innings could not be completed the match will be a draw and both teams will get equal points.

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August 15, 2020, 07:58:38 PM
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English team needs points to get on top but rain messing up with him. BTW They don't need our best wishes, they are already riding lucky horse if we think about last 2 year cricket.

It was a frustrating day for the England team as they desperately want the match to resume so that they can win it. Another issue for them is that tomorrow weather forecast is not good either, infect it is more worse then today and i don't think any game is possible tomorrow. Both teams should now focus on the final test and hope it brings a result.

Just two days remain now and it is impossible to get a result unless both the teams agree to forfeit one innings each. This is going to be suicidal for Pakistan, since they don't have enough runs on board. So my guess is that they will settle for a draw, which will be beneficial for them in the ICC World Test Championship. And another issue is that rain is predicted for the remaining two days as well.  

There is no such rule in the test match to forfeit the innings. I do not understand why people give such ideas which cannot be implemented in the match and are out of scope from the cricketing rules point of view. If both the innings could not be completed the match will be a draw and both teams will get equal points.
There is no such a rule but by mutual understanding many things can happen like this I am posting here this just for record because Pakistan is not going to take any chance like this right now https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/15756/scorecard/63864/south-africa-vs-england-5th-test-england-tour-of-south-africa-1999-00
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August 15, 2020, 09:26:32 PM
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Google predictions suggest a 90% draw chance which basically means that this match is over at this point. Pakistan were lucky to escape here while England will probably be cursing the weather currently.
If 2 days are lost and 2 more days left and it is impossible to see a result in the match, Pakistan still have a wicket left in their first innings and England need a day to reach that score if the weather allows and then a lead so that Pakistan can bat in the second innings and the match is a gone conclusion. Pakistan have some good bowlers and if there were no interruption who knows what the situation would be.
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August 15, 2020, 11:21:40 PM
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~snip~
Both teams known for their batting collapse and looking at current scenario Pakistan already reached at respectable total. Pitch is still alive so who knows if its low total game, we might see result despite bad weather.

Two days gone and not even one innings completed till now. I would be really surprised, if this match doesn't end up as another boring draw. Weather predictions are also not looking that great. Heavy rains are predicted for the next three days and we can expect the same situation we had during the first two days. I don't expect more than 100-150 overs of play to happen in the remaining three days.
Your calculation is not wrong as weather forecast backing your statement but you are under estimating mighty modern day batsmen.. Pun intended  Grin

Well we have seen before in the past at how quickly runs can be scored and that even when there are rain delays that most matches are completed with a winner. The match could still go either way as Pakistan have the runs on the board and the question is does England want to win the match or play for the draw? We will find out once they bat to see if they play aggressively or play safe.

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August 16, 2020, 03:04:54 AM
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~snip~
Both teams known for their batting collapse and looking at current scenario Pakistan already reached at respectable total. Pitch is still alive so who knows if its low total game, we might see result despite bad weather.

Two days gone and not even one innings completed till now. I would be really surprised, if this match doesn't end up as another boring draw. Weather predictions are also not looking that great. Heavy rains are predicted for the next three days and we can expect the same situation we had during the first two days. I don't expect more than 100-150 overs of play to happen in the remaining three days.
Your calculation is not wrong as weather forecast backing your statement but you are under estimating mighty modern day batsmen.. Pun intended  Grin

Well we have seen before in the past at how quickly runs can be scored and that even when there are rain delays that most matches are completed with a winner. The match could still go either way as Pakistan have the runs on the board and the question is does England want to win the match or play for the draw? We will find out once they bat to see if they play aggressively or play safe.

The chances of this match ending up in a draw is very high due to the weather. If by chance the match does proceed then the chance of England winning the 2nd test is pretty high.

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August 16, 2020, 07:04:14 AM
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Google predictions suggest a 90% draw chance which basically means that this match is over at this point. Pakistan were lucky to escape here while England will probably be cursing the weather currently.
If 2 days are lost and 2 more days left and it is impossible to see a result in the match, Pakistan still have a wicket left in their first innings and England need a day to reach that score if the weather allows and then a lead so that Pakistan can bat in the second innings and the match is a gone conclusion. Pakistan have some good bowlers and if there were no interruption who knows what the situation would be.

Pakistan may have good bowlers but remember England middle order is extremely strong and Pakistan bowlers were not able to get through them in the last test match. If the match starts, they still will have difficultly breaking through the England batting lineup.
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August 16, 2020, 10:47:21 AM
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Pakistan may have good bowlers but remember England middle order is extremely strong and Pakistan bowlers were not able to get through them in the last test match. If the match starts, they still will have difficultly breaking through the England batting lineup.
England have good players but this is the second match in the series and the rain interruption is killing the fun, Pakistan scored 236 runs and they picked the first English wicket without a run scored and if they can pick up wickets like this in cold conditions then it will be interesting even though we might not see a result in this match.
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August 16, 2020, 10:59:21 AM
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Pakistan may have good bowlers but remember England middle order is extremely strong and Pakistan bowlers were not able to get through them in the last test match. If the match starts, they still will have difficultly breaking through the England batting lineup.
England have good players but this is the second match in the series and the rain interruption is killing the fun, Pakistan scored 236 runs and they picked the first English wicket without a run scored and if they can pick up wickets like this in cold conditions then it will be interesting even though we might not see a result in this match.

Good to see the match is in progress and i hope the weathers stays like this all day. England have lost their first wicket and they were close to losing their 2nd wicket too but the review from Pakistan got rejected.  Also umpires need to review the light from time to time as it is looking little dark from the Tv screen.
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August 16, 2020, 11:10:56 AM
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Good to see the match is in progress and i hope the weathers stays like this all day. England have lost their first wicket and they were close to losing their 2nd wicket too but the review from Pakistan got rejected.  Also umpires need to review the light from time to time as it is looking little dark from the Tv screen.

It is raining and the umpires have taken the decision to suspend play. Also bad light seems to be an issue at Southampton. I am not sure whether play will be possible for the remainder of the day. England batsmen looked very vulnerable against the swing and seam of Shaheen Shah Afridi and Mohammad Abbas. It is going to be tough for them.
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