Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[Swordsoffreedom]

Dalmiya was really pioneer person in Cricket management he bring some good things which help too much but sadly after him no one capable to do this all so we lost some good which is not recoverable specailly srinivasan was bring many bad things which hurt too much right now if they feel then surely they can take some good changes and give equal rights to all which could be good for ICC and cricket as well.

Dalmiya was successful in keeping politics away from cricket. But that changed after he was replaced as the ICC president. It was disgraceful that people such as Sharad Pawar managed to become the ICC president. He is known as one of the most corrupt politicians in India and has zero association with cricket. His term was a big setback for the sports. Hopefully such people will never manage to get to that post again, since the voting structure has been changed.

you are right. we will not want to see this type of corrupt people as the president of the ICC. We need some good and neutral person.  Who, will look at all countries in the same way and think of the good of all country.  We don't want to see the impact of BCCI on ICC anymore. We want the ICC work independently.

[BitSat19]

you are right . we will not  want to see this type of corrupt people as the president of the ICC . We need some good and neutral person .  who will look at all countries in the same way and think of the good of all country .  We don't want to see the impact of BCCI on ICC anymore . We want the ICC work independently

It has been more than three months since Shashank Manohar resigned from the post of ICC Chairman. Till now, they are not able to find someone to be his successor. Shashank did a great job, undoing the damage previously done by incompetent and corrupt people such as Srinivasan and Pawar. We need someone to take his work forward. Someone who cares about the sport, and at the same time having a clean background.

BCCI is Gold Mine for Indian Politicians still many involve in through relatives or byself so its not going to stopped in near future because there is no law for this and ICC also have no law that they can prevent any one to become ICC President this need some good deep roots or persons like Ganguly because just with this we can stop corruption and corrupt peoples.

[bryant.coleman]

BCCI is Gold Mine for Indian Politicians still many involve in through relatives or byself so its not going to stopped in near future because there is no law for this and ICC also have no law that they can prevent any one to become ICC President this need some good deep roots or persons like Ganguly because just with this we can stop corruption and corrupt peoples.

Rather than Ganguly, I would like to see Sachin Tendulkar as the chairman of the ICC. Ganguly is already holding a powerful position (as he is the current head of the Board of Control for Cricket in India). I am sure that ex-players such as Sachin and Saurav are a hundred times better than businessmen such as N Srinivasan, Sharad Pawar and Colin Graves.

[JSRAW]

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Rather than Ganguly, I would like to see Sachin Tendulkar as the chairman of the ICC. Ganguly is already holding a powerful position (as he is the current head of the Board of Control for Cricket in India). I am sure that ex-players such as Sachin and Saurav are a hundred times better than businessmen such as N Srinivasan, Sharad Pawar and Colin Graves.

Sachin is the worst choice and if i dare to say one of the shitty administrator, he can't even make into top 50 contenders list for iCC chief or any administrator post for that matter.

[bryant.coleman]

Sachin is the worst choice and if i dare to say one of the shitty administrator, he can't even make into top 50 contenders list for iCC chief or any administrator post for that matter.

That is surprising. I don't have much information about what he is doing after his retirement. But I read that he served as a member of parliament for sometime and therefore thought that he may be having some administration experience. In case Sachin is not suitable for the job, we still have a number of ex-players who can be considered. First one comes to my mind right now is Kumar Sangakkara.

[JSRAW]

Sachin is the worst choice and if i dare to say one of the shitty administrator, he can't even make into top 50 contenders list for iCC chief or any administrator post for that matter.

That is surprising. I don't have much information about what he is doing after his retirement. But I read that he served as a member of parliament for sometime and therefore thought that he may be having some administration experience. In case Sachin is not suitable for the job, we still have a number of ex-players who can be considered. First one comes to my mind right now is Kumar Sangakkara.

He did but he was not good fit overall, i don't blame him tho. Sangakkara would make excellent chief but its looks like he's not interested right now, there were rumor running around about him applying for ICC presidency but he rejected all the speculations via twitter.

[eaLiTy]

But I read that he served as a member of parliament for sometime and therefore thought that he may be having some administration experience. In case Sachin is not suitable for the job, we still have a number of ex-players who can be considered. First one comes to my mind right now is Kumar Sangakkara.

Sachin was nominated in arts quota and hence became the member of parliament and he never displayed any administrative skills and i do not think that he will be interested in the job, Kumar Sangakkara on the other hand is a lawyer and he will be the right candidate for the post.

[BitSat19]

But I read that he served as a member of parliament for sometime and therefore thought that he may be having some administration experience. In case Sachin is not suitable for the job, we still have a number of ex-players who can be considered. First one comes to my mind right now is Kumar Sangakkara.

Sachin was nominated in arts quota and hence became the member of parliament and he never displayed any administrative skills and i do not think that he will be interested in the job, Kumar Sangakkara on the other hand is a lawyer and he will be the right candidate for the post.

If we have player like Sangakkara then surely this is going to be best for cricket and spirit of game as he is really capable of handling many things but currently he is not interested in this may take some time and then we have person like this in administration.

[MFahad]

BCCI is Gold Mine for Indian Politicians still many involve in through relatives or byself so its not going to stopped in near future because there is no law for this and ICC also have no law that they can prevent any one to become ICC President this need some good deep roots or persons like Ganguly because just with this we can stop corruption and corrupt peoples.

Rather than Ganguly, I would like to see Sachin Tendulkar as the chairman of the ICC. Ganguly is already holding a powerful position (as he is the current head of the Board of Control for Cricket in India). I am sure that ex-players such as Sachin and Saurav are a hundred times better than businessmen such as N Srinivasan, Sharad Pawar and Colin Graves.

How do they select the the chairman of ICC ? Doesn't all the boards have have a say in selecting the chairperson of ICC ?

There should be a mechanism of voting among all the cricket boards so that no one can influence on the decision of selecting the chairman of ICC.

[Ayiranorea]

BCCI is Gold Mine for Indian Politicians still many involve in through relatives or byself so its not going to stopped in near future because there is no law for this and ICC also have no law that they can prevent any one to become ICC President this need some good deep roots or persons like Ganguly because just with this we can stop corruption and corrupt peoples.

Rather than Ganguly, I would like to see Sachin Tendulkar as the chairman of the ICC. Ganguly is already holding a powerful position (as he is the current head of the Board of Control for Cricket in India). I am sure that ex-players such as Sachin and Saurav are a hundred times better than businessmen such as N Srinivasan, Sharad Pawar and Colin Graves.

How do they select the the chairman of ICC ? Doesn't all the boards have have a say in selecting the chairperson of ICC ?

There should be a mechanism of voting among all the cricket boards so that no one can influence on the decision of selecting the chairman of ICC.

This isn't gonna happen now or then. Cricket is complete business, and government is making good revenue out of it. Upon the same the governments hands will be found over it. At least some players are into the position, which is good compared to the past. Surely there'll be some voting procedure, but if everyone is supporting particular person the voting won't be conducted. Ganguly too got selected in such a voting method.

[JSRAW]

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How do they select the the chairman of ICC ? Doesn't all the boards have have a say in selecting the chairperson of ICC ?

There should be a mechanism of voting among all the cricket boards so that no one can influence on the decision of selecting the chairman of ICC.

As far as i know its goes something like that, i might be missing the details tho..

-Each member of ICC board ( they are called directors) nominates the candidates. Board is made up with 12 Full members+ 3 Associate members.
-The ones who gets the majority of votes (minimum 2) from the Full members goes into election process.

[Vishnu.Reang]

How do they select the the chairman of ICC ? Doesn't all the boards have have a say in selecting the chairperson of ICC ?
There should be a mechanism of voting among all the cricket boards so that no one can influence on the decision of selecting the chairman of ICC.

They are yet to finalize the process. The normal method is to select a candidate with two-thirds majority, but this time some of the member boards want to elect the first candidate who receive a simple majority. There are a total of 17 votes, and if they go for simple majority, then 9 votes are needed. Out of the 17 voters, 12 are from test nations, 3 from Associate nations (Malaysia, Scotland and Singapore) and the other two are Indra Nooyi and Manu Sawhney.

[JSRAW]

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and the other two are Indra Nooyi and Manu Sawhney.

Do Independent director and chief executive take part in voting process? Not sure about Independent director but Chief executive doesn't has any say in voting. 

[bryant.coleman]

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and the other two are Indra Nooyi and Manu Sawhney.

Do Independent director and chief executive take part in voting process? Not sure about Independent director but Chief executive doesn't has any say in voting. 

Manu Sawhney doesn't have voting rights as per this article:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/icc-board-meet-nomination-process-for-next-chairman-is-primary-agenda/story-IlcYdUUj9AdfOS24UQUhYK.html

That means that there are 16 votes available and 9 is needed for a simple majority. The only contenders as of now are Colin Graves of ECB and Dave Cameron of CWI. Although Cameron was the former president of CWI, they have issued a statement saying that the CWI will be favoring Graves for the post. If the election is held now, Graves will be easily elected with a simple majority and that explains the desperation from Ehsan Mani.

[MFahad]

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How do they select the the chairman of ICC ? Doesn't all the boards have have a say in selecting the chairperson of ICC ?

There should be a mechanism of voting among all the cricket boards so that no one can influence on the decision of selecting the chairman of ICC.

As far as i know its goes something like that, i might be missing the details tho..

-Each member of ICC board ( they are called directors) nominates the candidates. Board is made up with 12 Full members+ 3 Associate members.
-The ones who gets the majority of votes (minimum 2) from the Full members goes into election process.

If they have such a organized process in place for the selection of chairman for ICC, why some people complain that incompetent people are selected on this seat or politics is involved in selection. Aren't this process transparent ?

BCCI is Gold Mine for Indian Politicians still many involve in through relatives or byself so its not going to stopped in near future because there is no law for this and ICC also have no law that they can prevent any one to become ICC President this need some good deep roots or persons like Ganguly because just with this we can stop corruption and corrupt peoples.

[JohnBitCo]

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How do they select the the chairman of ICC ? Doesn't all the boards have have a say in selecting the chairperson of ICC ?

There should be a mechanism of voting among all the cricket boards so that no one can influence on the decision of selecting the chairman of ICC.

As far as i know its goes something like that, i might be missing the details tho..

-Each member of ICC board ( they are called directors) nominates the candidates. Board is made up with 12 Full members+ 3 Associate members.
-The ones who gets the majority of votes (minimum 2) from the Full members goes into election process.

If they have such a organized process in place for the selection of chairman for ICC, why some people complain that incompetent people are selected on this seat or politics is involved in selection. Aren't this process transparent ?

BCCI is Gold Mine for Indian Politicians still many involve in through relatives or byself so its not going to stopped in near future because there is no law for this and ICC also have no law that they can prevent any one to become ICC President this need some good deep roots or persons like Ganguly because just with this we can stop corruption and corrupt peoples.

There are powers and factors which influence the decisions and nothing is transparent as it seems to be. Politics is involved everywhere and also in cricket. You can check who are the last few chairman selected for ICC and can understand whom is influencing the decisions.

[Indymoney]

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How do they select the the chairman of ICC ? Doesn't all the boards have have a say in selecting the chairperson of ICC ?

There should be a mechanism of voting among all the cricket boards so that no one can influence on the decision of selecting the chairman of ICC.

As far as i know its goes something like that, i might be missing the details tho..

-Each member of ICC board ( they are called directors) nominates the candidates. Board is made up with 12 Full members+ 3 Associate members.
-The ones who gets the majority of votes (minimum 2) from the Full members goes into election process.

If they have such a organized process in place for the selection of chairman for ICC, why some people complain that incompetent people are selected on this seat or politics is involved in selection. Aren't this process transparent ?

BCCI is Gold Mine for Indian Politicians still many involve in through relatives or byself so its not going to stopped in near future because there is no law for this and ICC also have no law that they can prevent any one to become ICC President this need some good deep roots or persons like Ganguly because just with this we can stop corruption and corrupt peoples.

There are powers and factors which influence the decisions and nothing is transparent as it seems to be. Politics is involved everywhere and also in cricket. You can check who are the last few chairman selected for ICC and can understand whom is influencing the decisions.

We are living in hypocrate world where every one going for his own sack just happening in this ICC as well big 3 still not want to give others their right and want more influence on this and smalls want some big share this will go on most probably for some long time because transparency in not coming in just few days or weeks its need some good time and many other factors.

[JSRAW]

There are powers and factors which influence the decisions and nothing is transparent as it seems to be. Politics is involved everywhere and also in cricket. You can check who are the last few chairman selected for ICC and can understand whom is influencing the decisions.

While i agree on power struggle and influence, as that's how things gets sorted in the real world but remember it goes both ways (positive and negative) . Check vishnu's post about the big reform.. (BIG 3 Revenue model)

There is no doubt that BCCI is causing a lot of damage to the smaller nations, by choking their revenue inflow from the ICC. But why do you think that someone from the smaller nations may be able to do more than what Shashank Manohar has done? Manohar, despite being an Indian national was the mastermind behind the redistribution of the ICC revenues. Without him, the smaller nations would be receiving nothing more than breadcrumbs.

[bryant.coleman]

If they have such a organized process in place for the selection of chairman for ICC, why some people complain that incompetent people are selected on this seat or politics is involved in selection. Aren't this process transparent ?

The voting process was changed a few years ago. Before that, there were only 12 votes in total and powerful boards could indirectly "bribe" the smaller boards by offering them cricket tours. After the elevation of Afghanistan and Ireland, the situation changed. It became difficult for the larger boards to dictate terms by bribing two or three smaller boards. Now 9 votes are needed for a majority.

[JSRAW]

Alarming news for South Africa Cricket. Their Olympic body taking over CSA under its control and firing existing cricket board, technically government taking over. Implication? According to ICC constitution Cricket board should work as autonomously body and no government interference is allowed, if not then it could lead to ban from the International Cricket. More or less similar thing happened with the Zimbabwe cricket too.

South African Olympic body removes CSA board; takes control of cricket