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March 06, 2020, 07:48:35 PM
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Scoring not alone makes them best batsmen,their techniques and range of shots.

Okay lets take Sehwag and Dravid as an example,Sehwag scores more runs than dravid on most of the matches but based on techniques Dravid is most stronger than Sehwag so now who you will say as best batsmen?

Bro, In the end runs matter in the international arena. Just to give you one bizare example Sanjay Manjerkar had a excellent technique.  Grin
Smith might look ugly when playing shots due to his unconventional technique but he's damn fine player as far as Test Format is concern(Not talking about other format).

PS : Both are beautiful to watch. (Dravid-Sehwag)
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March 06, 2020, 07:51:21 PM
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You might want to read posts again..
Smith is not a world class batsman yet in my option as well because he is lacking some techniques while batting but he managed to score runs with his batting skills,still he was tested with strategies and got failed as well.


You need to rethink about your statement as he is one of best batsman in recent time because he is producing runs and giving very good results to his team which are helping them a lot Aussies are mostly done many strategies and they keep doing because they have really amazing system and good things to increase performance.
Scoring not alone makes them best batsmen,their techniques and range of shots.

Okay lets take Sehwag and Dravid as an example,Sehwag scores more runs than dravid on most of the matches but based on techniques Dravid is most stronger than Sehwag so now who you will say as best batsmen?
For me Sehwag is match winner and Dravid is not like this as technique not going to work every time you need to score runs for win and this not need any technique these runs can came from any where we have many batsmen those was technically not good but give good runs and results.
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March 07, 2020, 04:20:45 AM
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You might want to read posts again..
Smith is not a world class batsman yet in my option as well because he is lacking some techniques while batting but he managed to score runs with his batting skills,still he was tested with strategies and got failed as well.


You need to rethink about your statement as he is one of best batsman in recent time because he is producing runs and giving very good results to his team which are helping them a lot Aussies are mostly done many strategies and they keep doing because they have really amazing system and good things to increase performance.
Scoring not alone makes them best batsmen,their techniques and range of shots.

Okay lets take Sehwag and Dravid as an example,Sehwag scores more runs than dravid on most of the matches but based on techniques Dravid is most stronger than Sehwag so now who you will say as best batsmen?
For me Sehwag is match winner and Dravid is not like this as technique not going to work every time you need to score runs for win and this not need any technique these runs can came from any where we have many batsmen those was technically not good but give good runs and results.

You can also compare him with Sachin, he is the number one batsman in the world till now. He did not have a technique like Dravid but still was a match-winner most of the time. I never heard Dravid being called as a match-winner but a wall to hold middle order. Technique do not work when you play cricket nowadays. It is always the presence of mind and choosing the write short at the write time.

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March 07, 2020, 05:20:06 PM
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You can also compare him with Sachin, he is the number one batsman in the world till now. He did not have a technique like Dravid but still was a match-winner most of the time. I never heard Dravid being called as a match-winner but a wall to hold middle order. Technique do not work when you play cricket nowadays. It is always the presence of mind and choosing the write short at the write time.
No one can play drives better than Sachin as far as I know,so calling him as weak on his technique is not the right statement.

Dravid is not the match winner but we can compare his job with the recent India and NZ test series,most players were capable of scoring runs but no one holds the wickets in the middle order that is why everyone got failed.
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March 08, 2020, 06:12:08 PM
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You might want to read posts again..
Smith is not a world class batsman yet in my option as well because he is lacking some techniques while batting but he managed to score runs with his batting skills,still he was tested with strategies and got failed as well.


You need to rethink about your statement as he is one of best batsman in recent time because he is producing runs and giving very good results to his team which are helping them a lot Aussies are mostly done many strategies and they keep doing because they have really amazing system and good things to increase performance.
Scoring not alone makes them best batsmen,their techniques and range of shots.

Okay lets take Sehwag and Dravid as an example,Sehwag scores more runs than dravid on most of the matches but based on techniques Dravid is most stronger than Sehwag so now who you will say as best batsmen?
For me Sehwag is match winner and Dravid is not like this as technique not going to work every time you need to score runs for win and this not need any technique these runs can came from any where we have many batsmen those was technically not good but give good runs and results.

You can also compare him with Sachin, he is the number one batsman in the world till now. He did not have a technique like Dravid but still was a match-winner most of the time. I never heard Dravid being called as a match-winner but a wall to hold middle order. Technique do not work when you play cricket nowadays. It is always the presence of mind and choosing the write short at the write time.


No one can play drives better than Sachin as far as I know,so calling him as weak on his technique is not the right statement.

Dravid is not the match winner but we can compare his job with the recent India and NZ test series,most players were capable of scoring runs but no one holds the wickets in the middle order that is why everyone got failed.

I feel you guys are wrong in comparing Sachin and Smith as both have different styles of batting, and Sachin was definitely a great batsman when he was playing, and today Smith is undoubtedly one of the best batsmen in the world. Also Dravid was given a specific role i.e. he had to frustrate the bowlers while other batsmen scored runs, and had he not done that then Sehwag and Sachin would never have been able to score runs as wickets would have kept falling on the other side of the pitch.
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March 08, 2020, 07:13:48 PM
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I feel you guys are wrong in comparing Sachin and Smith as both have different styles of batting, and Sachin was definitely a great batsman when he was playing, and today Smith is undoubtedly one of the best batsmen in the world. Also Dravid was given a specific role i.e. he had to frustrate the bowlers while other batsmen scored runs, and had he not done that then Sehwag and Sachin would never have been able to score runs as wickets would have kept falling on the other side of the pitch.
This is exactly what I tried to mention,Smith of good player and one of the best at the moment but I said the world class where we also have to see the techniques along with batting styles that is why he is not greater in other formats yet but remember still he is young and will reach more and more high in the upcoming series.
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March 09, 2020, 03:03:13 AM
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I feel you guys are wrong in comparing Sachin and Smith as both have different styles of batting, and Sachin was definitely a great batsman when he was playing, and today Smith is undoubtedly one of the best batsmen in the world. Also Dravid was given a specific role i.e. he had to frustrate the bowlers while other batsmen scored runs, and had he not done that then Sehwag and Sachin would never have been able to score runs as wickets would have kept falling on the other side of the pitch.
This is exactly what I tried to mention,Smith of good player and one of the best at the moment but I said the world class where we also have to see the techniques along with batting styles that is why he is not greater in other formats yet but remember still he is young and will reach more and more high in the upcoming series.

Sachin was a player who was tailor-made for the ODI format. On the other hand, Smith is more suited for the test format when compared to the shorter formats. At least during the early part of his career, the Indian batting was heavily dependent on Sachin. When he failed, there was more than a 90% chance that India would lose the match. There is no such dependency on Smith, as they have good players such as David Warner, Aaron Finch and Marnus Labuschagne to support him.

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March 09, 2020, 05:24:34 AM
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Comparing any of the batsman with Sachin is really bad idea in my opinion. They call him GOD and yes Sachin is the god of cricket no doubt. Smith is a very good batsman, no doubt but Sachin is far above him or any other batsman. Don't forget that there is no Bret Lee, Muralidharan, Shane Bond and many more.

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March 09, 2020, 06:24:21 AM
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Comparing any of the batsman with Sachin is really bad idea in my opinion. They call him GOD and yes Sachin is the god of cricket no doubt. Smith is a very good batsman, no doubt but Sachin is far above him or any other batsman. Don't forget that there is no Bret Lee, Muralidharan, Shane Bond and many more.


The reason why Sachin is called god beacuse their was a time where India teams for years were depended mostly on Sachin to fire or help the team for victories. When he used to get out people used to switch off the TV as most likely the result was known to people . While for other players of other team they had few good players who even get out can help team to win the matches . So pressure was not on just one player. This differs Sachin from other players. 

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March 10, 2020, 05:09:14 AM
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Comparing any of the batsman with Sachin is really bad idea in my opinion. They call him GOD and yes Sachin is the god of cricket no doubt. Smith is a very good batsman, no doubt but Sachin is far above him or any other batsman. Don't forget that there is no Bret Lee, Muralidharan, Shane Bond and many more.


The reason why Sachin is called god beacuse their was a time where India teams for years were depended mostly on Sachin to fire or help the team for victories. When he used to get out people used to switch off the TV as most likely the result was known to people . While for other players of other team they had few good players who even get out can help team to win the matches . So pressure was not on just one player. This differs Sachin from other players. 

This is more like the real reason. Back then, the team was so dependent on Sachin. I have pointed out this before, but the fact remains that Sachin scored most of his centuries in sub-standard tracks of India, and that too against weak opposition (Zimbabwe, Kenya.etc). In that regard, I would rate Virat Kohli much above Sachin Tendulkar. He has performed well, irrespective of the surface.
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This is more like the real reason. Back then, the team was so dependent on Sachin. I have pointed out this before, but the fact remains that Sachin scored most of his centuries in sub-standard tracks of India, and that too against weak opposition (Zimbabwe, Kenya.etc). In that regard, I would rate Virat Kohli much above Sachin Tendulkar. He has performed well, irrespective of the surface.

Indian pitches are sub-standard but only for subcontinent players not for foreign players. Similarly SENA pitches are sub-standard for their respective players and hard for Sub-continent players.

By this logic should we discard Bradman's achievement too? as he only scored runs in familiar condition Eng and Aus?


Sachin's scored runs against all opponents in both formats

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the fact remains that Sachin scored most of his centuries in sub-standard tracks of India, and that too against weak opposition (Zimbabwe, Kenya.etc).
This is always a controversial opinion from you in this regard. Have you seen stats? I think we have pointed it many times before. Australia, Srilanka, Africa are week team? I see 9 of his 49 century in ODI is against weak opposition like you mention. I do not have the time now to check when Sachin scored all the century against Kenya, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. For your info, Kenya and Zimbabwe was not so weak country before.

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^^^^ I was just saying that Sachin was considered as a "god", mostly because the team was overdependent on him. Back then, he formed the backbone of the Indian batting. Look at the situation now. The Indian team is not overdependent on Virat Kohli. Even if he fails, the other batsmen (such as Rohit Sharma, KL Rahul and Shikhar Dhawan) are capable of guiding the team to a victory. Back then, India didn't had such batsmen. That may be the reason why Kohli is not being regarded as the "god". Despite that I would not consider him as inferior to Sachin.

Both Sachin and Kolhi are very good players. There is no need for any comparisons.
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^^^^ I was just saying that Sachin was considered as a "god", mostly because the team was overdependent on him. Back then, he formed the backbone of the Indian batting. Look at the situation now. The Indian team is not overdependent on Virat Kohli. Even if he fails, the other batsmen (such as Rohit Sharma, KL Rahul and Shikhar Dhawan) are capable of guiding the team to a victory. Back then, India didn't had such batsmen. That may be the reason why Kohli is not being regarded as the "god". Despite that I would not consider him as inferior to Sachin.

Both Sachin and Kolhi are very good players. There is no need for any comparisons.
Still Indian team dependent on Kohli when there is situation come to chase down a match because he id definitely a better one while chasing than batting first but not as the old 1990s. yeah now we got some other run scorers as well like Sharma (hitman),Hardik Pandya,and the list goes on.
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Scoring not alone makes them best batsmen,their techniques and range of shots.

Okay lets take Sehwag and Dravid as an example,Sehwag scores more runs than dravid on most of the matches but based on techniques Dravid is most stronger than Sehwag so now who you will say as best batsmen?
You are comparing an attacking batsman and a defensive batsman, Virender Sehwag had a solid defense and good balance and his plus point was his hand eye coordination and he scored runs as long as his hand eye coordination was crisp, Virender Sehwag changed how openers played Test cricket as earlier we used to have batsman that could defend all the time to reduce the shine of the ball and Virender Sehwag came in and changed everything. So both are great players in their own right.

You can also compare him with Sachin, he is the number one batsman in the world till now. He did not have a technique like Dravid but still was a match-winner most of the time. I never heard Dravid being called as a match-winner but a wall to hold middle order. Technique do not work when you play cricket nowadays. It is always the presence of mind and choosing the write short at the write time.
You really cannot compare techniques like that, Sachin had the best balance and the best technique and he had the best defense and offense and if not he could not perform well for 20 years around the globe and when they were playing all the countries had world class bowlers who could challenge any batsman and yet they were able to score runs against any class bowlers and without proper technique and shot selection you will not survive this long.
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March 11, 2020, 02:13:29 PM
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Coming back to the topic, the last test series for the year 2019-20 will get underway in Sri Lanka, as the Brits are visiting the island nation. England will be playing a series of two test matches against Sri Lanka. Given the good form of the England team right now, I don't fancy much chances for the Lankans. Sri Lanka has dropped Lahiru Thirimanne, and included Kusal Perera. The England squad is of full strength, and the only notable omissions are that of Jofra Archer (stress fracture) and Mark Wood (side strain). My prediction: 2-0 in favor of England.   
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Coming back to the topic, the last test series for the year 2019-20 will get underway in Sri Lanka, as the Brits are visiting the island nation. England will be playing a series of two test matches against Sri Lanka. Given the good form of the England team right now, I don't fancy much chances for the Lankans. Sri Lanka has dropped Lahiru Thirimanne, and included Kusal Perera. The England squad is of full strength, and the only notable omissions are that of Jofra Archer (stress fracture) and Mark Wood (side strain). My prediction: 2-0 in favor of England.   

Though SL have an home advantage but still knowing this 2 sides and their strength the verdict will go in favour of the England team by 2-0 . They are playing a good cricket and with full strength they can more stronger then the existing SL team . Only chances of them would be if couple of them can make century which can help the team to have a good 400+ runs in a innings can help them to atleast draw the match if they can play with time.

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March 12, 2020, 01:48:30 AM
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My prediction: 2-0 in favor of England.    
In perspective of World Test Championship.
Its very important series for England as dynamics has changed in WTC ranking after Indian faced a clean sweep in NZ by Kiwis and there is really tough competition for top 2 spot from now on. England might find it very hard to make in to top 2 if Sri Lankans managed to win or draw this series.

Interestingly there is no front line spinner in England Squad.
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March 12, 2020, 04:48:20 PM
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Interestingly there is no front line spinner in England Squad.

Jack Leach was getting the important wickets for England (and getting runs at crucial situations). But he may not be able to play international cricket for sometime, due to health issues. And the other spinners have not performed up to the expectations. But it will be suicidal to tour Sri Lanka without any frontline spinners. The tracks in Sri Lanka can be either flat, or spin-friendly. In both the cases, you need spinners.
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March 13, 2020, 11:11:18 AM
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^^ It doesn't matter now..

England tour of Sri Lanka is also postponed due to Coronavirus threat, similar to IPL and all English players along with staff going back to England.

England tour of Sri Lanka postponed amid COVID-19 concerns
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