Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[ZAINmalik75]

Pakistan batsmen are good enough. But the batsmen cannot perform well against the big teams in the national team. At the end of the day the entire Pakistan team depends on Babar Azam's performance. If Babar Azam does not perform well, it becomes very difficult for Pakistan to collect big. And if Pakistan can't reduce such dependence on Babar then they will face bigger problems in future. They will also lose against teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka or Afghanistan.

What's the point of having good batsmen in the team when they can't perform against the big teams?
In the upcoming NewZealand tour of Pakistan, they have a good opportunity to compete or even win the series as Kiwis performance and overall trajectory is going down. Let's hope Pakistan wins the next series.

But they are often failing to perform consistently and also fail to perform against bigger opponents. That is not good enough for them.

How can you say that Pakistan palyer didn't perform against big teams, if you check out statistics Pakistani player perform huge against big teams like Australia, England, etc. In teams Baber Azam score high runs of his career against england which is big team too . While other player of Pakistan also score huge against big teams also. But the main problem is that they didn't perform with consistency, some time they did some time they didn't. Now after hiring of new PCB chairman Najam sethei will make changes in both management and starting XI which may have good affect on team performance.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Pakistan batsmen are good enough. But the batsmen cannot perform well against the big teams in the national team. At the end of the day the entire Pakistan team depends on Babar Azam's performance. If Babar Azam does not perform well, it becomes very difficult for Pakistan to collect big. And if Pakistan can't reduce such dependence on Babar then they will face bigger problems in future. They will also lose against teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka or Afghanistan.

What's the point of having good batsmen in the team when they can't perform against the big teams?
In the upcoming NewZealand tour of Pakistan, they have a good opportunity to compete or even win the series as Kiwis performance and overall trajectory is going down. Let's hope Pakistan wins the next series.

But they are often failing to perform consistently and also fail to perform against bigger opponents. That is not good enough for them.

How can you say that Pakistan palyer didn't perform against big teams, if you check out statistics Pakistani player perform huge against big teams like Australia, England, etc. In teams Baber Azam score high runs of his career against england which is big team too . While other player of Pakistan also score huge against big teams also. But the main problem is that they didn't perform with consistency, some time they did some time they didn't. Now after hiring of new PCB chairman Najam sethei will make changes in both management and starting XI which may have good affect on team performance.

Yes that's true how can you forget all the best performances of Pakistan against bigger teams just because of this test series against England.  Just a reminder Pakistan was in final of Asia Cup and T20 world cup and they came there by defeating all the strong teams that's means Pakistan is one of the strongest teams of this world.
Just because of one test series you cannot wash all their achievements.

[JSRAW]

What's the point of having good batsmen in the team when they can't perform against the big teams?
In the upcoming NewZealand tour of Pakistan, they have a good opportunity to compete or even win the series as Kiwis performance and overall trajectory is going down. Let's hope Pakistan wins the next series.

But they are often failing to perform consistently and also fail to perform against bigger opponents. That is not good enough for them.

How can you say that Pakistan palyer didn't perform against big teams, if you check out statistics Pakistani player perform huge against big teams like Australia, England, etc. In teams Baber Azam score high runs of his career against england which is big team too . While other player of Pakistan also score huge against big teams also. But the main problem is that they didn't perform with consistency, some time they did some time they didn't. Now after hiring of new PCB chairman Najam sethei will make changes in both management and starting XI which may have good affect on team performance.

99% of runs came at flat pitches that's why it got de-merits points and saw draws against Australia (all pitches against Australia were flat and it was done intentionally, it's on record by the coach and Rambo). Same with 1st test match against England, literally everyone scored a 100 at pindi.

But when the ball started to seam, reverse swing or spin. Batters surrendered every single time, there is a reason the score line reads 1-0 and followed by 3-0 whitewash.

I remember only 1 worthy inning of Babar where he scored daddy hundred to save a match against Aus. He was also looking good and flawless in the last test against England but that's it.

[pakhitheboss]

Pakistan batsmen are good enough. But the batsmen cannot perform well against the big teams in the national team. At the end of the day the entire Pakistan team depends on Babar Azam's performance. If Babar Azam does not perform well, it becomes very difficult for Pakistan to collect big. And if Pakistan can't reduce such dependence on Babar then they will face bigger problems in future. They will also lose against teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka or Afghanistan.

What's the point of having good batsmen in the team when they can't perform against the big teams?
In the upcoming NewZealand tour of Pakistan, they have a good opportunity to compete or even win the series as Kiwis performance and overall trajectory is going down. Let's hope Pakistan wins the next series.

But they are often failing to perform consistently and also fail to perform against bigger opponents. That is not good enough for them.

How can you say that Pakistan palyer didn't perform against big teams, if you check out statistics Pakistani player perform huge against big teams like Australia, England, etc. In teams Baber Azam score high runs of his career against england which is big team too . While other player of Pakistan also score huge against big teams also. But the main problem is that they didn't perform with consistency, some time they did some time they didn't. Now after hiring of new PCB chairman Najam sethei will make changes in both management and starting XI which may have good affect on team performance.

Don't you read the newspaper or surf news portal website of Pakistan? They are blaming Pakistan's bad performance on Ramiz Raza and the captain Babar Azam. I guess the way you have questioned simply means that either you tend to ignore what is happening with PCB or you are just someone who tend to ignore everything for the pride of the country.

[ibuddy122505]

Bangladesh went all out in today's Test match on the first day and scored 227 runs.  Only Mominul Haque scored good runs in this Test match for Bangladesh and he scored 84 runs for Bangladesh and was dismissed by Ashwin.  But many have performed poorly for Bangladesh as all the wickets fell on the first day which is very sad for Bangladesh.  Due to India's good bowling performance, Bangladesh could not survive the first day off in the field.

The top scorer for Bangladesh today is Mominul Haque. The fact that he scored 84 runs today is impressive since he had scored less than 10 runs in nine consecutive games before this one. Mominul's achievements are wonderful, but I am disappointed that Bangladesh was only able to score 227 runs. India's bowlers are on top of the leaderboard after another promising day.

[rojan]

Bangladesh batted really badly in the first innings, Bangladesh got all out. And Bangladesh scored very few runs. India bowled very well in this match from the beginning to the end.  As they played a bad game, now the fans of Bangladesh are waiting to see how they will play in bowling. It seems that there is no way that Bangladesh can win, but let's see how well Bangladesh can do.

[Mahdirakib]

And I was baffled about Litton Das batting at no.6. He is their best batsmen and could have been better utilized at no.3 or no.4. Mominul Haque was the only Bangladeshi batsmen who could score a half century and even he got out when it mattered the most.

Maybe Bangladesh team management tried to bring some variations to get a positive result. But Litton Das still failed to play a long innings. Mominul used to be a dependable player for Bangladesh in test format. His performance was very bad in the last few test matches, but today he has shown his capability again. I'm not surprised to see the collapse in Bangladesh batting lineup. 227 runs is quite low total score. Shakib, Taijul and Miraz are the leading wicket taker in test at Mirpur stadium. Let's see whether they can restrict Indian players within 250 runs or not.

[BobK71]

And I was baffled about Litton Das batting at no.6. He is their best batsmen and could have been better utilized at no.3 or no.4. Mominul Haque was the only Bangladeshi batsmen who could score a half century and even he got out when it mattered the most.

Maybe Bangladesh team management tried to bring some variations to get a positive result. But Litton Das still failed to play a long innings. Mominul used to be a dependable player for Bangladesh in test format. His performance was very bad in the last few test matches, but today he has shown his capability again. I'm not surprised to see the collapse in Bangladesh batting lineup. 227 runs is quite low total score. Shakib, Taijul and Miraz are the leading wicket taker in test at Mirpur stadium. Let's see whether they can restrict Indian players within 250 runs or not.

Recently Indian team is performing very well against Bangladesh team. Some Indian cricketers are on fire. Bangladesh team will fail to stop them. Bangladesh cricket team came to the field today with the confidence of making a good score but they all failed except Mominul. The biggest thing is that 3 cricketers have been caught Rishabh Pant. Shakib, Mushfiqur Rahim, Litton Das and Mehidy Hasan Miraz made good progress but none of them could perform as expected. They lost all the wickets on the first day. Although cricket is unpredictable, India's victory in this condition is now certain.

[mm2543363580]

And I was baffled about Litton Das batting at no.6. He is their best batsmen and could have been better utilized at no.3 or no.4. Mominul Haque was the only Bangladeshi batsmen who could score a half century and even he got out when it mattered the most.

Maybe Bangladesh team management tried to bring some variations to get a positive result. But Litton Das still failed to play a long innings. Mominul used to be a dependable player for Bangladesh in test format. His performance was very bad in the last few test matches, but today he has shown his capability again. I'm not surprised to see the collapse in Bangladesh batting lineup. 227 runs is quite low total score. Shakib, Taijul and Miraz are the leading wicket taker in test at Mirpur stadium. Let's see whether they can restrict Indian players within 250 runs or not.

Recently Indian team is performing very well against Bangladesh team. Some Indian cricketers are on fire. Bangladesh team will fail to stop them. Bangladesh cricket team came to the field today with the confidence of making a good score but they all failed except Mominul. The biggest thing is that 3 cricketers have been caught Rishabh Pant. Shakib, Mushfiqur Rahim, Litton Das and Mehidy Hasan Miraz made good progress but none of them could perform as expected. They lost all the wickets on the first day. Although cricket is unpredictable, India's victory in this condition is now certain.

There is something different with test format zll the teams don't get to perform in this format. I think t20 format have changed the playing pattern of cricketers and they always rush for runs and as a result lose thier wicket.  Test format is all about consistency and patience and it tells you to understand pitch first than make runs as you have plenty of balls .
Same is happening with Bangladesh,  India is performing good in this format.

[eaLiTy]

As JSRAW pointed out, Bangladesh was 213/5 at one point. Everyone were expecting that they would easily get to a total of 300. But then they lost wickets very quickly and ended up at 227 all out. Ravichandran Ashwin and Umesh Yadav just wrecked the Bangladeshi lower order and tail. And I was baffled about Litton Das batting at no.6. He is their best batsmen and could have been better utilized at no.3 or no.4. Mominul Haque was the only Bangladeshi batsmen who could score a half century and even he got out when it mattered the most.

Even i was surprised when i saw the scorecard that Bangladesh was all out for 227 runs, i was expecting them to score above 250 runs and was thinking about placing a bet because India surprisingly dropped Kuldeep Yadav which is surprising and glad to see Ashwin back in the wickets column. India had a great start and it is going to be another one sided game.

[DanWalker]

And I was baffled about Litton Das batting at no.6. He is their best batsmen and could have been better utilized at no.3 or no.4. Mominul Haque was the only Bangladeshi batsmen who could score a half century and even he got out when it mattered the most.

Maybe Bangladesh team management tried to bring some variations to get a positive result. But Litton Das still failed to play a long innings. Mominul used to be a dependable player for Bangladesh in test format. His performance was very bad in the last few test matches, but today he has shown his capability again. I'm not surprised to see the collapse in Bangladesh batting lineup. 227 runs is quite low total score. Shakib, Taijul and Miraz are the leading wicket taker in test at Mirpur stadium. Let's see whether they can restrict Indian players within 250 runs or not.

Recently Indian team is performing very well against Bangladesh team. Some Indian cricketers are on fire. Bangladesh team will fail to stop them. Bangladesh cricket team came to the field today with the confidence of making a good score but they all failed except Mominul. The biggest thing is that 3 cricketers have been caught Rishabh Pant. Shakib, Mushfiqur Rahim, Litton Das and Mehidy Hasan Miraz made good progress but none of them could perform as expected. They lost all the wickets on the first day. Although cricket is unpredictable, India's victory in this condition is now certain.

The Bangladesh team currently has a lot of problems. And you are not going to get good results from the players if the management is not good. That is what has been happening in the Bangladesh cricket board. Also have no idea why Liton Das was not opening. He has a great class and I don’t think it will ever be recognized by the selectors of the Bangladesh cricket board. And the truth is Bangladesh cricket team is going through a transitional period right now. But I think the management is making too many mistakes at this stage of the competition when they should be making the wisest decisions. The players who generally save Bangladesh from that situation are also not in form. So the results are obviously not coming in favor of Bangladesh.

[teosanru]

As JSRAW pointed out, Bangladesh was 213/5 at one point. Everyone were expecting that they would easily get to a total of 300. But then they lost wickets very quickly and ended up at 227 all out. Ravichandran Ashwin and Umesh Yadav just wrecked the Bangladeshi lower order and tail. And I was baffled about Litton Das batting at no.6. He is their best batsmen and could have been better utilized at no.3 or no.4. Mominul Haque was the only Bangladeshi batsmen who could score a half century and even he got out when it mattered the most.

Even i was surprised when i saw the scorecard that Bangladesh was all out for 227 runs, i was expecting them to score above 250 runs and was thinking about placing a bet because India surprisingly dropped Kuldeep Yadav which is surprising and glad to see Ashwin back in the wickets column. India had a great start and it is going to be another one sided game.

I think India will now go on to score atleast 450-500 by taking atleast a couple of days and will ensure that it does not has to come to bat again. They way Bangladeshi top order batted i doubt that it'll be hard for India to put up such a big total. This looks like easy pitch to bat on, even though spinners can do something but India plays spin pretty well too so I don't even find a problem in that department as well.

[romero121]

As JSRAW pointed out, Bangladesh was 213/5 at one point. Everyone were expecting that they would easily get to a total of 300. But then they lost wickets very quickly and ended up at 227 all out. Ravichandran Ashwin and Umesh Yadav just wrecked the Bangladeshi lower order and tail. And I was baffled about Litton Das batting at no.6. He is their best batsmen and could have been better utilized at no.3 or no.4. Mominul Haque was the only Bangladeshi batsmen who could score a half century and even he got out when it mattered the most.

Even i was surprised when i saw the scorecard that Bangladesh was all out for 227 runs, i was expecting them to score above 250 runs and was thinking about placing a bet because India surprisingly dropped Kuldeep Yadav which is surprising and glad to see Ashwin back in the wickets column. India had a great start and it is going to be another one sided game.

I think India will now go on to score atleast 450-500 by taking atleast a couple of days and will ensure that it does not has to come to bat again. They way Bangladeshi top order batted i doubt that it'll be hard for India to put up such a big total. This looks like easy pitch to bat on, even though spinners can do something but India plays spin pretty well too so I don't even find a problem in that department as well.

Yeah, India will surely make good runs in its innings. Every Bangladesh player have contributed, but the score isn't enough to reach a better position. India plays well in test cricket and the prevailing situation looks like an easy win gonna happen

[LDL]

India easily restricted Bangladesh to 227 runs on the first day of the 2nd Test. Where Bangladesh definitely needed to perform well. Because they play very well at home ground. But at this time Bangladesh cannot control India in any way. I deserve India have been able to master their strategies. The condition of Bangladesh is in worst situation in the 2nd test. As the time is over, India can easily collect 208 runs in the next day smoothly as it is the lowest target.

227 runs in the first innings of Bangladesh cannot be a big target with a country as strong in Test cricket as India.  Especially as Bangladesh were 5 for 213, adding only 14 runs to the next five batsmen.  Bangladesh may not have been able to arrange how the squad is arranged in a test match.  In other countries the next batsmen can bat minimum but it is completely opposite in case of Bangladesh.  Bowlers only complete the bowling scale but little can bat.  So in every Test match Bangladesh has no chance of scoring 50 runs from 5 wickets to next 10 wickets.

[noormcs5]

Bangbros made a mess out of their first inning.

The majority of batters got the start but failed to stay for longer except Mominul Haque. Also, at one point they were 212/5 but lost the next 5 wickets in just 15 runs.

So far this pitch has everything. Seamers and spinners are in the play and batters need to show some patience but it's going to deteriorate soon so best of luck to India with those rough foot marks if they are chasing a little over 250 in the 4th inning so they would like to bat out Bangbros from this game.

Atm Indian openers need to face 10-ish overs and Bongs seamers are going to test our Right-hand openers, fingers crossed.

Thick boy Umesh shines again, there is the reason I rate him highly in subcontinent pitch. He always goes into God mode whenever he plays here.

Bangladesh all out on 227 runs , what's a poor batting performance by them. Day 1 and all out  what'd was the rush to make runs they just needed to settle down on pitch and than make runs.
India is now in a stronger position and higher probability of winning the match.

You are saying India has higher probability of winning this test match, i would say they already have won after they bowled out Bangladesh for mere 227 runs. Mominul Haque showed some resistance to the Indian bowlers and made 84 runs. However, he kept seeing wickets falling at other ends as no batsman was able to stand at the other end and the innings lacked partnerships.

Yadav and Ashwin took 4 wickets each and took 8 wickets between them.
India, now should play with ease and try to score a very big score giving all of their batsmen good batting practice.

[doomloop]

And I was baffled about Litton Das batting at no.6. He is their best batsmen and could have been better utilized at no.3 or no.4. Mominul Haque was the only Bangladeshi batsmen who could score a half century and even he got out when it mattered the most.

Maybe Bangladesh team management tried to bring some variations to get a positive result. But Litton Das still failed to play a long innings. Mominul used to be a dependable player for Bangladesh in test format. His performance was very bad in the last few test matches, but today he has shown his capability again. I'm not surprised to see the collapse in Bangladesh batting lineup. 227 runs is quite low total score. Shakib, Taijul and Miraz are the leading wicket taker in test at Mirpur stadium. Let's see whether they can restrict Indian players within 250 runs or not.

Right now, Bangladesh management is clueless in this format because they are never going to develop their domestic's system which will help them for having better batsmen and bowlers for the test format even I was feeling with their recent few developments they will be able to bring a very good system which will be helpful for them in developing their players technique and skills, but they completely fail because of various reasons which are occurring in this region subcontinent just India is having well-balanced system which is helping them for having well balances pools for the all formats, and they are having well organized players which are giving them good results right now they are not having their best available players against Bangladesh but still they are having amazing results.

[justdimin]

Pakistan is a team that is stronger in the limited overs format, when compared to the test format. The case with New Zealand is just the opposite. They are one of the strongest test teams in the world right now and were the winners of the inaugural ICC World Test Championship. Pakistan will be having the home advantage and that may prove to be the deciding factor. The two test matches will be played in Karachi and Multan, where the surfaces are more conductive to spin bowling. And New Zealand doesn't have a quality spin bowler, ever since the retirement of Daniel Vettori.

This is main reason for their failure in test format mostly players are coming from the limited overs format, and they have no technique for playing into this format with their domestic set up is also never been ideal with too many changes as just few hours ago I watch new PCB chairman announces old departmental cricket is coming back which mean again many changes and few players will be out of frame with having no good approaches and parchi for staying into this system and mostly departmental teams having their own players which are also having not quality and good skills.

With sudden changes and arrive of New Zealand team here is surely interesting because most of the peoples feeling New Zealand will be weaker side and lost this series, but they must remember this was same feeling for the Goras as well, but they have historic win their historic series so here any prediction is not going to be good any result can happen.

[dezoel]

As JSRAW pointed out, Bangladesh was 213/5 at one point. Everyone were expecting that they would easily get to a total of 300. But then they lost wickets very quickly and ended up at 227 all out. Ravichandran Ashwin and Umesh Yadav just wrecked the Bangladeshi lower order and tail. And I was baffled about Litton Das batting at no.6. He is their best batsmen and could have been better utilized at no.3 or no.4. Mominul Haque was the only Bangladeshi batsmen who could score a half century and even he got out when it mattered the most.

Even i was surprised when i saw the scorecard that Bangladesh was all out for 227 runs, i was expecting them to score above 250 runs and was thinking about placing a bet because India surprisingly dropped Kuldeep Yadav which is surprising and glad to see Ashwin back in the wickets column. India had a great start and it is going to be another one sided game.

I am really not surprised with this scorecard because when India has Shakib at 84 my thoughts were hardly they will touch the figure of 250 so same happen and if India has Momin then surely there are going to be just 180 to 190 on board because no other batsmen able to stay and give some resistance against these three bowlers which are really shocking for me because Bangladesh is having poor batting and now most chances we will have 350+ and another big defeat for them.

As few are saying there were chance for having better score but when you lost your top order and then middle order cheaply then mostly this is not happened lower order were completely outclassed with no one able to touch double figure and ODI hero Mehdi Miraz was also gone without any solid figure.

[Sithara007]

I am really not surprised with this scorecard because when India has Shakib at 84 my thoughts were hardly they will touch the figure of 250 so same happen and if India has Momin then surely there are going to be just 180 to 190 on board because no other batsmen able to stay and give some resistance against these three bowlers which are really shocking for me because Bangladesh is having poor batting and now most chances we will have 350+ and another big defeat for them.

As few are saying there were chance for having better score but when you lost your top order and then middle order cheaply then mostly this is not happened lower order were completely outclassed with no one able to touch double figure and ODI hero Mehdi Miraz was also gone without any solid figure.

We can't expect Mehidy Hasan Miraz to rescue Bangladesh everytime when they are in trouble. Then why Bangladesh need the top and middle order batsmen? Only Mominul Haque scored enough runs yesterday, while their heavyweight players such as Shakib Al Hasan and Litton Das failed to make significant contributions. I am not denying the fact that India is a tough opponent. But then, the match was being played at Mirpur and the pitch was prepared according to the instructions from the Bangladeshi management.

[kro55]

I am really not surprised with this scorecard because when India has Shakib at 84 my thoughts were hardly they will touch the figure of 250 so same happen and if India has Momin then surely there are going to be just 180 to 190 on board because no other batsmen able to stay and give some resistance against these three bowlers which are really shocking for me because Bangladesh is having poor batting and now most chances we will have 350+ and another big defeat for them.
As few are saying there were chance for having better score but when you lost your top order and then middle order cheaply then mostly this is not happened lower order were completely outclassed with no one able to touch double figure and ODI hero Mehdi Miraz was also gone without any solid figure.

We can't expect Mehidy Hasan Miraz to rescue Bangladesh everytime when they are in trouble. Then why Bangladesh need the top and middle order batsmen? Only Mominul Haque scored enough runs yesterday, while their heavyweight players such as Shakib Al Hasan and Litton Das failed to make significant contributions. I am not denying the fact that India is a tough opponent. But then, the match was being played at Mirpur and the pitch was prepared according to the instructions from the Bangladeshi management.

I have no doubt that Miraz is a great player. But he is not yet experienced enough. So it is foolish to rely on his performance in every match. But if Miraz performs well, maybe Bangladesh would have been able to collect like 300. But I expected at least 40 runs from Miraz in the first innings.

Indian batsmen are not playing well. India lost two openers for 38 runs, and three wickets for 72 runs. Kohli and Rishab Pant are batting now. India will be in trouble if they don't get a big collection from this pair. Taijul Islam took three wickets for Bangladesh.