ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[UmerIdrees]

I wasn't actually that surprised by the result but I was surprised to see the skill difference between both the teams because obviously you can have a bad day and lose a match but the skill difference between both teams is really visible. I know that when I think about the facilities and every other aspect it makes sense but still it was not acceptable, to be honest. I think they could have done better.

PCB has not that much money to spend on women cricket, women cricketers from Pakistan are lucky enough to participate in World Cup. India Women team is not different then Pakistan, they lost miserably to new zealand just before this world cup. Though India won to Pakistan there is rear chance that they can beat teams like Aus, England and New Zealand.

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at  Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

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[blatchcorn]

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at  Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

[UmerIdrees]

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at  Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

The result is what matters in the end and Pakistan have lost both matches and are at the bottom of the points table.

Today we had an upset where the West Indies women's team defeated the England team. This means that both WI and Aus have won both their matches while Pakistan and England have lost both their matches. I must say the tournament is getting interesting.

[Juggy777]

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at  Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

The result is what matters in the end and Pakistan have lost both matches and are at the bottom of the points table.

Today we had an upset where the West Indies women's team defeated the England team. This means that both WI and Aus have won both their matches while Pakistan and England have lost both their matches. I must say the tournament is getting interesting.

I don’t feel that Pakistan women performed extremely bad in the second match, and this performance is something they can take inspiration from and try and win their remaining games. Lastly no one expected West Indies team to beat England so this is definitely a shocker, and yes this unexpected turn of events has made this tournament even more exciting to watch.

[barbara44]

What a day in Mega Event of Women Crickets World Cup as West Indies women team done second upset of this tournament when they beat England in very exciting match and now have confirmed their spot in semi-final of this WCW 2022.

Wicket Keeper Shemaine Campbelle done great job for West Indies as she score 66 and total of 225 which was never been good total for England but classic bowling from West Indies bowling attack done great damage and beat England with 7 runs Shamilia Connell and Anisa Mohammed were hero for West Indies with their amazing bowling Sophie Ecclestone and Kate Cross both were in good touch but fail to give first win to England now they have very tough job for reaching into last four after losing two out of two matches in this event.

[coinism]

What a day in Mega Event of Women Crickets World Cup as West Indies women team done second upset of this tournament when they beat England in very exciting match and now have confirmed their spot in semi-final of this WCW 2022.

Wicket Keeper Shemaine Campbelle done great job for West Indies as she score 66 and total of 225 which was never been good total for England but classic bowling from West Indies bowling attack done great damage and beat England with 7 runs Shamilia Connell and Anisa Mohammed were hero for West Indies with their amazing bowling Sophie Ecclestone and Kate Cross both were in good touch but fail to give first win to England now they have very tough job for reaching into last four after losing two out of two matches in this event.

Before this world cup nobody was talking about WIndies women team. They have performed exceptionally well so far beating top teams of tournament i.e. England and New Zealand so far. I would say they are now favorite for this world cup title. There win over England and New Zealand is close though just by 7 and 3 runs but still win is win.

[Marvell1]

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I agree with you here that after Australia, England, India is very strong team even they lost few matches against host New Zealand before this Mega Event but still they are capable of beating them in this competition and having spot in semi-final because they have few very good players with very good experience and quality.
Pakistan is relatively new team with many girls are having not good enough experience for big games but still they have done very good in first session of this game before start of this game I was feeling India can tough 300+ but Pakistan bowlers done good job and restrict them for very good total, but sadly they lost this match very badly.
Now, with first upset of this event as West Indies beat New Zealand we have some good competition between three teams for remaining two spots of semi-final as first two are already Australia and England.

First a win against the New Zealand women's team by 3 runs and now a win against England women by seven runs. The West Indies women's team seems to be making the viewers' money worth it. They are taking the matches deep and hanging in there till the end and that's what everyone likes to see, a good game.

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Before this WC, India Women lost ODI series 4-1 and T20 series 1-0 and you saying they lost few matches to new zealand? Rating India ahead of new zealand is not justified seeing there recent performance just before the WC.
Meanwhile Australia W are in good control of there match against Pakistan W. Pakistan has given target of 190 runs. Bismah Maroof and Aliya are top scorer with 78 and 53 runs. All Aussies bowlers are economical today.

Even India lost matches against host New Zealand but still they are very good team, and they are capable of beating few teams like New Zealand, West Indies and South Africa for reaching into semi-final with they can easily win against Pakistan and Bangladesh which are relatively new teams in this format. My Teams for last four spots are Australia, England, New Zealand and India but West Indies done big upset with this they are favourite for fourth spot but still it's not sure.
Pakistani Women today done some better batting even they still fail to reach some respectable total but good thing these women having good experience with playing against quality teams and players which help them in near future and with this hopefully we have some more bilateral matches between these teams.

I think the favorites for the last four spots being India, Australia, England, and New Zealand seem to be right. But after the close wins of West Indies women, I think they might show some surprise in the tournament. For the other teams, unless they are playing cricket regularly they are not going to improve.

[kro55]

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

The result is what matters in the end and Pakistan have lost both matches and are at the bottom of the points table.
Today we had an upset where the West Indies women's team defeated the England team. This means that both WI and Aus have won both their matches while Pakistan and England have lost both their matches. I must say the tournament is getting interesting.

I don’t feel that Pakistan women performed extremely bad in the second match, and this performance is something they can take inspiration from and try and win their remaining games. Lastly no one expected West Indies team to beat England so this is definitely a shocker, and yes this unexpected turn of events has made this tournament even more exciting to watch.

Pakistan women needed to form better partnerships, But they could not do so. After the openers failed Bismah Maroof basically tried to hold the innings together.
She is called 78 runs. Aliya Riaz also played well for her 50. but other than that no one really scored anything worth mentioning.
In the end, they could not accelerate their innings at all. and for Australia, it was a really easy chase.

England versus West Indies match really had a shocking result and don't think anyone expected that. It really looked like England is going to win the match but the last two quick wickets certainly changed the outcome of the match.

[Theones]

I wasn't actually that surprised by the result but I was surprised to see the skill difference between both the teams because obviously you can have a bad day and lose a match but the skill difference between both teams is really visible. I know that when I think about the facilities and every other aspect it makes sense but still it was not acceptable, to be honest. I think they could have done better.

PCB has not that much money to spend on women cricket, women cricketers from Pakistan are lucky enough to participate in World Cup. India Women team is not different then Pakistan, they lost miserably to new zealand just before this world cup. Though India won to Pakistan there is rear chance that they can beat teams like Aus, England and New Zealand.

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at  Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

For the match I get an idea that Pakistani culture is a bit conservative when it comes to woman sports. I believe Pakistan is not paying much attention to sports when it comes to woman and that it's neglected to an extreme. Even I watched on TV in winter olympics there was one athlete along with three supporting personals.   Pakistan needs to really work on the uplift of sports in general and woman sports in particular.

[doomloop]

For the match I get an idea that Pakistani culture is a bit conservative when it comes to woman sports. I believe Pakistan is not paying much attention to sports when it comes to woman and that it's neglected to an extreme. Even I watched on TV in winter olympics there was one athlete along with three supporting personals.   Pakistan needs to really work on the uplift of sports in general and woman sports in particular.

In last two decades Pakistan is completely demolish by terrorism, and they lost some good things like they were very good in Hockey and Squash, and now they have nothing to cheer recently some good happened in shape of PSL otherwise mostly we have negative news from this region no sports are in good shape for men, so women is never been priority in this culture which is facing serious threats from fundamentalists and extreme groups which are sponsored by other countries for unrest in this region.

But, good things start to happening as now new persons are involved in sports those have some good experience and base for bringing this sports culture back in this country but still it is very long way to go for achieving good results because this all generation is already in big dilemma which is unstoppable but controlled by very small ethics and religious groups.

[Sithara007]

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at  Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

That is the case with all the South Asian countries. These guys don't take women's cricket seriously. Even the BCCI, which is the richest cricket board in the world treats women's cricket in a very casual manner. In India, there is a domestic setup similar to the men's domestic tournaments, but the quality is much lower when compared to SENA nations such as Australia and England. And this is one of the aspects where the inclusion of cricket in Olympics may help. If cricket is made an Olympic sport, then women's cricket may get more attention and funds.

[galambo]

That is the case with all the South Asian countries. These guys don't take women's cricket seriously. Even the BCCI, which is the richest cricket board in the world treats women's cricket in a very casual manner. In India, there is a domestic setup similar to the men's domestic tournaments, but the quality is much lower when compared to SENA nations such as Australia and England. And this is one of the aspects where the inclusion of cricket in Olympics may help. If cricket is made an Olympic sport, then women's cricket may get more attention and funds.

You must be happy to see performance of Indian team in T20 WC as they have beaten there arch rivals aka Pakistan comprehensively. West Indies women is going too good at the moment in women WC and they are a candidate for wining this women WC.
Right now India is playing against NZ and NZ are 229/5 in 44 overs. Amy Satterthwaite the NZ top scorer just got out, India must restrict NZ to 250 to win the game.

[kro55]

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at  Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

That is the case with all the South Asian countries. These guys don't take women's cricket seriously. Even the BCCI, which is the richest cricket board in the world treats women's cricket in a very casual manner. In India, there is a domestic setup similar to the men's domestic tournaments, but the quality is much lower when compared to SENA nations such as Australia and England. And this is one of the aspects where the inclusion of cricket in Olympics may help. If cricket is made an Olympic sport, then women's cricket may get more attention and funds.

But, I think we all know that cricket is a very long way away from going to the Olympics. Because ICC does not look too much concerned about it. And also the number of countries that play cricket are very low.

If this is the situation of cricket in the future, I don't think that women's cricket is going to get much popularity. And I think that the boards know this and that's the reason why they are scared to push women's cricket, that's quite understandable.

[eaLiTy]

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I think the favorites for the last four spots being India, Australia, England, and New Zealand seem to be right. But after the close wins of West Indies women, I think they might show some surprise in the tournament. For the other teams, unless they are playing cricket regularly they are not going to improve.

West Indies can be the black horse of this tournament, i lost a huge bet placing a bet on New Zealand even though the odds were really low, i just added them in a huge parlay expecting them to be an easy bet as New Zealand was a good team and i messed up big time as West Indies was able to defeat New Zealand and i just wish i never placed a bet on that match.

[Sithara007]

But, I think we all know that cricket is a very long way away from going to the Olympics. Because ICC does not look too much concerned about it. And also the number of countries that play cricket are very low.

If this is the situation of cricket in the future, I don't think that women's cricket is going to get much popularity. And I think that the boards know this and that's the reason why they are scared to push women's cricket, that's quite understandable.

From what I heard, the ICC is targeting for Olympic inclusion by 2032. I am not sure about this, because the administrators still remain against the idea of inclusion. They are concerned only about money, and not about spreading the game. Similar to what happened earlier, we will witness sabotaging at some point in the future and then they will say that 2032 is not possible and we should aim for 2040 or 2044. Then after some time, the same cycle will repeat and the date will be delayed to 2048 or 2052. It will go on for ever.

[coinism]

In Women World Cup both Pakistan and South Africa are playing there second ODI today. South Africa after winning there opening match against Bangladesh will be looking for there second win . SA has given small target of 223 in 50 overs, Pakistan in reply are 98/3 in 27 overs. Let's see whether Pakistan can win there first game today.

[mm2543363580]

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at  Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

The result is what matters in the end and Pakistan have lost both matches and are at the bottom of the points table.

Today we had an upset where the West Indies women's team defeated the England team. This means that both WI and Aus have won both their matches while Pakistan and England have lost both their matches. I must say the tournament is getting interesting.

Pakistan is going to play another match on 11 March with south Africa and I am sure South Africa is going to win this bringing their ranking higher up in the chart.
Yesterday in India VS NZ both team played well. I will keep a follow up what Pakistani team did. I wish my prediction become wrong. And Pakistan win at least one match in the series but this seems impossible. Fingers crossed! 

[blatchcorn]

South Africa womem has beaten Pakistan women after an interesting match, victory by just 6 runs. Pakistan team has shown a good performance after big defeat against India. From Pakistan side Nahida Khan, Omaima Sohail and Nida Dar bat well and scored 40, 65 and 55 runs, Shabnim Ismail from SA was man of the match as she took 3 wickets.

[og kush420]

That is true that we (Pakistan) do not have any infrastructure for the women's cricket team. They lost to India on that day and today they will again lose to Australians as this match is being played now at  Mount Maunganui. Australian team needs only 25 more runs to win and they have 18 overs to complete this run chase. Though one can argue that Pakistan women's team exposure is increased by playing in world cup matches but unless we do not have a proper domestic infrastructure, it's of no use.

Pak-W team performance today is better then how they performed in last match against Ind-W. Pressure may be one reason why Pak-W failed to play quality cricket on that day. Pakistan team is new in women cricket and they should try to get experience by playing there full 50 overs quota. Women cricket is dominated by England, Aus and New Zealand and its because these boards are behind there teams.
Pak-W just lost the match to Aus-W by 7 wickets. Alyssa Healy was the top scorer from Aus side who scored 74 runs.

The result is what matters in the end and Pakistan have lost both matches and are at the bottom of the points table.

Today we had an upset where the West Indies women's team defeated the England team. This means that both WI and Aus have won both their matches while Pakistan and England have lost both their matches. I must say the tournament is getting interesting.

I like the spirit of @umarIdrees. Always supporting Pk and coming up with logics to support his nation. But one thing I agree with. There is alot of effort and hard work needed to make a team or an athlete a real hero. Which is somehow missing. But let’s hope one day!

[galambo]

Action continues in women world cup, India taking WI seriously and have scored 317 runs in there 50 overs. Smriti Mandhana and Harmanpreet Kaur are two Centurion from India. WI who has already done two upsets so far is struggling in this match as they are 114/4 in 20 overs. WI were 100-0 and now 114/4.