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[coinism]

At least in name, Afghanistan is a test playing nation and can't be compared with the smaller associate nations. They receive around $5 million every year from the ICC, which is tens of times higher when compared to what the associate nations such as Nepal receive. But that amount is only one-third of what Bangladesh receive every year from the ICC (~$15 million per year). Anyway, when it comes to test cricket both these nations have performed poorly. And Bangladesh has remained in this position despite being a test nation for more than two decades.

Thank you for sharing these financial facts. Bangladesh are crazy for cricket they have a T20 league and a national holiday is announced whenever they win against big country like Pakistan and India but I go with your stance that 2 decade has passed since they got test status but there performance is still like an associate team. I think ICC has given then test status quite early.

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[jostorres]

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

Even Bangladesh were whitewashed at home against Pakistan, but their reply were also very strong, and they beat World Test Champions at their home and draw a series it is one of the best by them and now in last two ODI's they are doing very good job even Afghanistan is also new and have no enough experience, but they are very good team with some good all-rounder and bowlers.

But, sadly they have some batting issues and second thing is they are still under making process, so It's going to be taken some time as they have some good experience surely they are going to be best team around globe even I can say they will be much better than Bangladesh because they many natural talented players those are performing in many franchisees and taking good lessons for their national team and better future.

[blatchcorn]

Even Bangladesh were whitewashed at home against Pakistan, but their reply were also very strong, and they beat World Test Champions at their home and draw a series it is one of the best by them and now in last two ODI's they are doing very good job even Afghanistan is also new and have no enough experience, but they are very good team with some good all-rounder and bowlers.

But, sadly they have some batting issues and second thing is they are still under making process, so It's going to be taken some time as they have some good experience surely they are going to be best team around globe even I can say they will be much better than Bangladesh because they many natural talented players those are performing in many franchisees and taking good lessons for their national team and better future.

Afghanistan need time to settle since they are very much new to international cricket but how much more time Bangladesh need to become a stable team. They are only capable of making one or two upsets like wining a single test against NZ and then sitting comfortably. If same time and funds will be given to Afghanistan they will surely reach the level of Pakistan or India.

[Emitdama]

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

With the popularity of short formats now it's very hard for few countries to have better result in this test format because it needs some good patience and better technique which are time-consuming things and new breed of cricketers love to enjoy ODI and t20, so test failure is increasing for new countries very strongly.

Bangladesh is not giving time in domestic set up which is also very important for this and Afghanistan is not able to play this at home, so they are just enjoying short format but still have some good players for giving good response in test format, but I am feeling they will be not good enough in near future until they also have some strong domestic set up which help their players for having some good experience in this format for better success ratio. Right now, we have strong domestic set up in very few countries, so they are enjoying good in all formats.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

With the popularity of short formats now it's very hard for few countries to have better result in this test format because it needs some good patience and better technique which are time-consuming things and new breed of cricketers love to enjoy ODI and t20, so test failure is increasing for new countries very strongly.

Bangladesh is not giving time in domestic set up which is also very important for this and Afghanistan is not able to play this at home, so they are just enjoying short format but still have some good players for giving good response in test format, but I am feeling they will be not good enough in near future until they also have some strong domestic set up which help their players for having some good experience in this format for better success ratio. Right now, we have strong domestic set up in very few countries, so they are enjoying good in all formats.

Bangladesh has always had problems in test cricket. The best form of cricket in which Bangladesh plays really well in the one-day international.

In T20 Bangladesh is below average in my opinion, in test cricket to be honest Bangladesh absolutely sucks. one of the big reasons for this is because Bangladesh doesn't have different lineups for different formats.

Mominul Haque is a great cricketer for Bangladesh and he made a great name for himself when he started his career in test cricket but then the over-eager selectors selected him for the one-day and T-20 matches and he did not do very well in those. So his form in test cricket also dropped.

The domestic setup is well in very few countries. The domestic setup in Bangladesh is not good at all and a lot of match-fixing by the umpires and some shady business going on in the domestic cricket of Bangladesh, you know. I think no one remembers the bowler in Bangladesh domestic cricket who gave 92 runs in 4 balls. Yeah, that also happened. Now that bowler can be found selling burgers in the streets of the City, kidding, 

[laurenB7742]

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

Even Bangladesh were whitewashed at home against Pakistan, but their reply were also very strong, and they beat World Test Champions at their home and draw a series it is one of the best by them and now in last two ODI's they are doing very good job even Afghanistan is also new and have no enough experience, but they are very good team with some good all-rounder and bowlers.

But, sadly they have some batting issues and second thing is they are still under making process, so It's going to be taken some time as they have some good experience surely they are going to be best team around globe even I can say they will be much better than Bangladesh because they many natural talented players those are performing in many franchisees and taking good lessons for their national team and better future.

And another thing is Bangladesh has much more global exposure than Afghanistan. Shakib Al Hasan, Mustafizur Rahman has played League cricket all around the world. From there they have achieved so much experience. And also the facility of Bangladesh cricket is far better than Afghanistan in my opinion.

In Afghanistan, there are a lot of problems. The country itself is in a rebuilding state at the moment. This team is still quite good and just needs a few Good batsmen to play for the team. After that, if the dream is properly nurtured I think the team is going to be one of the best in the world.

[Maidak]

Afghanistan is not a full fledged test playing team while Bangladesh is a regular test playing country. So performing good against an associate team does not prove the fact that Bangladesh is very good at home conditions. Bangladesh were recently whitewashed by Pak in Test and T20Is at there home grounds. Afghanistan is an underdog in this series.

At least in name, Afghanistan is a test playing nation and can't be compared with the smaller associate nations. They receive around $5 million every year from the ICC, which is tens of times higher when compared to what the associate nations such as Nepal receive. But that amount is only one-third of what Bangladesh receive every year from the ICC (~$15 million per year). Anyway, when it comes to test cricket both these nations have performed poorly. And Bangladesh has remained in this position despite being a test nation for more than two decades.

The majority of Bangladesh players did not have the physique before to play test cricket in my opinion. We could just look at the body of the players and say that they are not fit at all.

But now the players have become really careful and conscious about their physique. And I think also in recent times we have seen Bangladesh do quite well in test cricket. But, the overall performance of Bangladesh in test cricket is quite bad. and they even lost the first match against Afghanistan (first match for Afghanistan).

[KennyR]

And another thing is Bangladesh has much more global exposure than Afghanistan. Shakib Al Hasan, Mustafizur Rahman has played League cricket all around the world. From there they have achieved so much experience. And also the facility of Bangladesh cricket is far better than Afghanistan in my opinion.

Bangladesh is much experienced compared to Afghanistan. In specific it has got experience playing against top teams, which  have given the players more tricks and techniques to handle situations. Afghanistan cricket needs more support, and Bangladesh team is in a better position as mentioned.

In Afghanistan, there are a lot of problems. The country itself is in a rebuilding state at the moment. This team is still quite good and just needs a few Good batsmen to play for the team. After that, if the dream is properly nurtured I think the team is going to be one of the best in the world.

Even with lots of internal problems within the country Afghanistan is trying to do the best. In the ODI series they've done better than before, and possibly Afghanistan will mark its win on the T20 cricket.

[Webetcoins]

Bangladesh is much experienced compared to Afghanistan. In specific it has got experience playing against top teams, which  have given the players more tricks and techniques to handle situations. Afghanistan cricket needs more support, and Bangladesh team is in a better position as mentioned.

Both the countries are coming from completely different environment as currently Afghanistan players are no able to play domestic games at home, and they have many issues related to their selection and finances with Bangladesh are now currently having some good experience but still they are not able to have some solid foundation for hunting better talent and have some good domestic set up as someone already mentions their local system is very corrupt and many bad things happening.

So, it is a massive concern because if they want to have some better results and better financial system they need to do some hard work and bring transparency which help them for having strong back up and quality for good fight against top ranked teams but sadly right now system is not good in any Asian country just India enjoying with some better financial advantage but have no strong domestic set up.

[mm2543363580]

Bangladesh has always had problems in test cricket. The best form of cricket in which Bangladesh plays really well in the one-day international.

In T20 Bangladesh is below average in my opinion, in test cricket to be honest Bangladesh absolutely sucks. one of the big reasons for this is because Bangladesh doesn't have different lineups for different formats.

Mominul Haque is a great cricketer for Bangladesh and he made a great name for himself when he started his career in test cricket but then the over-eager selectors selected him for the one-day and T-20 matches and he did not do very well in those. So his form in test cricket also dropped.

The domestic setup is well in very few countries. The domestic setup in Bangladesh is not good at all and a lot of match-fixing by the umpires and some shady business going on in the domestic cricket of Bangladesh, you know. I think no one remembers the bowler in Bangladesh domestic cricket who gave 92 runs in 4 balls. Yeah, that also happened. Now that bowler can be found selling burgers in the streets of the City, kidding, 

Yes, Mominul Haq for Test cricket and Tamim Iqbal for ODI both are trying hard to come up to expectation of the people. The team Bangladesh came to cricket field very late compared to the other international teams. All they need is a good practice and some great resources to come up to the other teams level. But I have not liked the last you have stated for the bowlers of the Bangladesh team they have legendary bowlers like Shakib.

[barbara44]

Mominul Haq for Test cricket and Tamim Iqbal for ODI both are trying hard to come up to expectation of the people. The team Bangladesh came to cricket field very late compared to the other international teams. All they need is a good practice and some great resources to come up to the other teams level. But I have not liked the last you have stated for the bowlers of the Bangladesh team they have legendary bowlers like Shakib.

It is very good few players like Mominul Haq and Tamim Iqbal doing their best for Bangladesh, but it's not easy to do this all without team work and having very strong management which is currently not available for them few years back there were few hopes but suddenly all in vain as now we have not good enough players in their set-up and their management is also not doing solid efforts for bringing good changes in domestic set up recently with the success of BPL is having good impact on their finances things but still long way to go for them.

I am not agreed here that Bangladesh entry in cricket is late they already have more than two decades and have very good experience but fail like we have Zimbabwe and now West Indies is also on verge of down-and-out due to their geopolitical reasons.

If they want to become good then surely works on few academies and better local set up which is indeed for good future and success.

[coinism]

It is very good few players like Mominul Haq and Tamim Iqbal doing their best for Bangladesh, but it's not easy to do this all without team work and having very strong management which is currently not available for them few years back there were few hopes but suddenly all in vain as now we have not good enough players in their set-up and their management is also not doing solid efforts for bringing good changes in domestic set up recently with the success of BPL is having good impact on their finances things but still long way to go for them.

I am not agreed here that Bangladesh entry in cricket is late they already have more than two decades and have very good experience but fail like we have Zimbabwe and now West Indies is also on verge of down-and-out due to their geopolitical reasons.

If they want to become good then surely works on few academies and better local set up which is indeed for good future and success.

BPL is a good success for Bangladesh cricket no doubt but if they want long term success in cricket then they need to focus on building domestic setup that produces quality players that can  perform good in all formats not just in T20I or BPL.
Along with Tamim and Mominul haq I would say another good asset in Bangladesh cricket is Mushfiqur Rahim. I like his stats a wicket keeper though he is also like other Bangladesh cricketers not consistent with his performance.

[laurenB7742]

And another thing is Bangladesh has much more global exposure than Afghanistan. Shakib Al Hasan, Mustafizur Rahman has played League cricket all around the world. From there they have achieved so much experience. And also the facility of Bangladesh cricket is far better than Afghanistan in my opinion.

Bangladesh is much experienced compared to Afghanistan. In specific it has got experience playing against top teams, which  have given the players more tricks and techniques to handle situations. Afghanistan cricket needs more support, and Bangladesh team is in a better position as mentioned.

In Afghanistan, there are a lot of problems. The country itself is in a rebuilding state at the moment. This team is still quite good and just needs a few Good batsmen to play for the team. After that, if the dream is properly nurtured I think the team is going to be one of the best in the world.

Even with lots of internal problems within the country Afghanistan is trying to do the best. In the ODI series they've done better than before, and possibly Afghanistan will mark its win on the T20 cricket.

I have huge respect for Afghanistan to be honest because they are doing quite well in spite of being a war-torn country. I really don't think that if Bangladesh was in the same situation they could have done anything like that in cricket. And still, they showed a great performance in the first ODI match against Bangladesh. I think if they get the proper patronage that they deserve they will be a far better cricketing nation in the future.

[blatchcorn]

Warm up matches prior to women world cup are under way and there was an upset by Pakistani team as they beat New zealand by 4 wickets. NZ team were bowled out in 45 overs for 229, Nashra Sandhu is star performer in today's game as she took 4 wickets in her 10 overs by giving only 32 runs. In reply it was Nida and Aliya who help Pakistan in winning the game as wickets keep falling at regular intervals.

There is zero interet in Women cricket WC even on bitcointalk.org where we keep discussing that women cricket is ignored by boards.

[Swordsoffreedom]

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Yes, Mominul Haq for Test cricket and Tamim Iqbal for ODI both are trying hard to come up to expectation of the people. The team Bangladesh came to cricket field very late compared to the other international teams. All they need is a good practice and some great resources to come up to the other teams level. But I have not liked the last you have stated for the bowlers of the Bangladesh team they have legendary bowlers like Shakib.

Bangladesh obviously has some legendary bowlers like Shakib Al Hasan and Mashrafe bin Mortaza. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.
We can obviously just look at the national team and say that this team is great and everything is great in Bangladesh cricket. honestly, the domestic cricket of Bangladesh is not really up to the mark and has also been neglected lots of times. And the bowler that I was talking about is Sujon Mahmud. You can Google if you want.

It is very good few players like Mominul Haq and Tamim Iqbal doing their best for Bangladesh, but it's not easy to do this all without team work and having very strong management which is currently not available for them few years back there were few hopes but suddenly all in vain as now we have not good enough players in their set-up and their management is also not doing solid efforts for bringing good changes in domestic set up recently with the success of BPL is having good impact on their finances things but still long way to go for them.

I am not agreed here that Bangladesh entry in cricket is late they already have more than two decades and have very good experience but fail like we have Zimbabwe and now West Indies is also on verge of down-and-out due to their geopolitical reasons.

If they want to become good then surely works on few academies and better local set up which is indeed for good future and success.

The problem in the Bangladesh cricket board seems to be it's not the Bangladesh cricket board anymore. It has become the Bangladesh national team board right now.

Because the board only seems to be making the main 11 squads happy and only think about that team. At the moment I don't even think that they even care about their domestic cricket at all. And the amount of match-fixing and negligence that goes on in the domestic cricket of Bangladesh I can say this confidently.

[galambo]

The problem in the Bangladesh cricket board seems to be it's not the Bangladesh cricket board anymore. It has become the Bangladesh national team board right now.

Because the board only seems to be making the main 11 squads happy and only think about that team. At the moment I don't even think that they even care about their domestic cricket at all. And the amount of match-fixing and negligence that goes on in the domestic cricket of Bangladesh I can say this confidently.

Case of Sujon Mahmud is different as it was not about match fixing rather losing his cool on umpire decision. "Bowler Sujon Mahmud has been banned for 10 years after deliberately bowling a series of wides and no-balls in protest at umpiring decisions."

Bangladesh need to revisit there domestic setup and must strengthen it if they really wanna survive in cricket world else they will be history like Zim and kenya.

[Sithara007]

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Bangladesh need to revisit there domestic setup and must strengthen it if they really wanna survive in cricket world else they will be history like Zim and kenya.

The problems faced by Bangladesh are similar to those in Sri Lanka. In both cases, the cricket infrastructure and domestic teams are concentrated in the capital city (Dhaka and Colombo respectively). This means that those who are living outside these cities need to migrate in order to prove their mettle. Sri Lanka is now trying to form domestic teams in distant cities such as Kandy and Jaffna, but if you check the composition of these teams, you will find that almost all the players are from Colombo and it's satellite cities.

[ibuddy122505]

Afghanistan register their first success over Bangladesh following the 3 ODI series, however Bangladesh already secure the series by 2-1. Afghanistan chase down the Bangladesh low total without much trouble with 59 balls remaining. The batters of Afghanistan executed by excellent way, especially Rahmanullah Gurbaz who made a brilliant century.

[galambo]

Bangladesh concluded ODI series by winning the very last game. Bangladesh gave a modest target of 193 as there batting collapsed, only Litton Das 86 of 113 balls made it possible to reach 193. Good bowling by Nabi and Rashid together they both took 5 wickets. In reply Afghanistan were steady, Rahmanullah Gurbaz was top scorer with 106 runs.

[Sithara007]

Bangladesh concluded ODI series by winning the very last game. Bangladesh gave a modest target of 193 as there batting collapsed, only Litton Das 86 of 113 balls made it possible to reach 193. Good bowling by Nabi and Rashid together they both took 5 wickets. In reply Afghanistan were steady, Rahmanullah Gurbaz was top scorer with 106 runs.

All that matters is the points table for ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Super League. Right now Bangladesh is on top with 100 points from 15 matches, while Afghanistan is at 4th position with 70 points from 9 matches. A lot of matches are remaining and this is causing some difficulty in getting an accurate picture. Only Ireland and Sri Lanka have completed at least 75% of their scheduled matches. On the other hand, New Zealand has played just 3 matches out of the total 24, and the Netherlands have played just 7.