ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[YinShuiSiYuan]

You are missing one key point here that the same Netherlands team was able to beat South Africa in latest T20 World Cup and that defeat was the reason South Africa couldn't make it so semis. The recent two matches between South Afrcia and Netherlands were very much important for South Africa as fate of South Africa in playing ODI world cup directly lies on these two matches. South Africa won both matches and now have also qualified for ODI worldcup.

You are Right the Netherlands team was able to defeat South Africa in the latest T20 World Cup which ultimately resulted in South Africa failure to qualify for the semi finals of T20 world cup. That why the recent matches between South Africa and Netherlands were crucial for South Africa's direct qualification to the ODI World Cup. The outcome of these matches had a direct impact on South Africa fate in the tournament. But South Africa was able to win both of these matches which secured their spot in the upcoming ODI World Cup.

What happened in t20 world cup was unusual and weird Netherlands defeating South Africa  and same Pakistan defeated by Zimbabwe  so these surprises happen in world cups .
But all of us know South Africa is a much stronger team than Netherlands in all formats and that's why they made their direct entry to ODI world cup.

[Ayers]

We can't have a comparison of Netherlands against South Africa, and I find the batting line-up to be good with Netherlands. The scoring itself shows, almost every player have scored little runs. The team lacks experience and the same had resulted in restricting South Africa within specific runs. Most of the players are very young, few were in their teen age and can expect them to be playing better cricket in the future. These teams should have matches often to keep up the form, if not the continuity gets missed.

You are missing one key point here that the same Netherlands team was able to beat South Africa in latest T20 World Cup and that defeat was the reason South Africa couldn't make it so semis. The recent two matches between South Afrcia and Netherlands were very much important for South Africa as fate of South Africa in playing ODI world cup directly lies on these two matches. South Africa won both matches and now have also qualified for ODI worldcup.

I think the point that we are actually missing is that T20 and one day internationals are not in the same format. There is a big difference between these two. These smaller teams are generally good while playing T20. But they are not very good while playing the ODI.

So I don't think we can compare the Netherlands team's performance in the T20 with ODI. No way the Netherlands are going to be able to beat South Africa in the ODI. At least South Africa is not going to lose the series against the Netherlands in the ODI format.

[mm2543363580]

We can't have a comparison of Netherlands against South Africa, and I find the batting line-up to be good with Netherlands. The scoring itself shows, almost every player have scored little runs. The team lacks experience and the same had resulted in restricting South Africa within specific runs. Most of the players are very young, few were in their teen age and can expect them to be playing better cricket in the future. These teams should have matches often to keep up the form, if not the continuity gets missed.

You are missing one key point here that the same Netherlands team was able to beat South Africa in latest T20 World Cup and that defeat was the reason South Africa couldn't make it so semis. The recent two matches between South Afrcia and Netherlands were very much important for South Africa as fate of South Africa in playing ODI world cup directly lies on these two matches. South Africa won both matches and now have also qualified for ODI worldcup.

I think the point that we are actually missing is that T20 and one day internationals are not in the same format. There is a big difference between these two. These smaller teams are generally good while playing T20. But they are not very good while playing the ODI.

So I don't think we can compare the Netherlands team's performance in the T20 with ODI. No way the Netherlands are going to be able to beat South Africa in the ODI. At least South Africa is not going to lose the series against the Netherlands in the ODI format.

That's the point South Africa has a strong team and experienced players but Netherlands on other hand have not evolved much in cricket so beating them in ODI is difficult for them. Although they tried really hard but they'll improve themselves with time .

[BobK71]

We can't have a comparison of Netherlands against South Africa, and I find the batting line-up to be good with Netherlands. The scoring itself shows, almost every player have scored little runs. The team lacks experience and the same had resulted in restricting South Africa within specific runs. Most of the players are very young, few were in their teen age and can expect them to be playing better cricket in the future. These teams should have matches often to keep up the form, if not the continuity gets missed.

You are missing one key point here that the same Netherlands team was able to beat South Africa in latest T20 World Cup and that defeat was the reason South Africa couldn't make it so semis. The recent two matches between South Afrcia and Netherlands were very much important for South Africa as fate of South Africa in playing ODI world cup directly lies on these two matches. South Africa won both matches and now have also qualified for ODI worldcup.

I think the point that we are actually missing is that T20 and one day internationals are not in the same format. There is a big difference between these two. These smaller teams are generally good while playing T20. But they are not very good while playing the ODI.

So I don't think we can compare the Netherlands team's performance in the T20 with ODI. No way the Netherlands are going to be able to beat South Africa in the ODI. At least South Africa is not going to lose the series against the Netherlands in the ODI format.

Yes, of course there are two different formats and there is no way to consider in the same way. However, when a weak team loses repeatedly, the opponent often keeps their good players and they try to play with comparatively weak squad. Where a weak team may win. If there is a series of 3 matches where two win and one defeat is very simple but not all teams will play with the same manner. But everything depends on the team players. It is not impossible for the smaller team to lose with the big because of any uncertainty in cricket.

[Ayers]

Yes, of course there are two different formats and there is no way to consider in the same way. However, when a weak team loses repeatedly, the opponent often keeps their good players and they try to play with comparatively weak squad. Where a weak team may win. If there is a series of 3 matches where two win and one defeat is very simple but not all teams will play with the same manner. But everything depends on the team players. It is not impossible for the smaller team to lose with the big because of any uncertainty in cricket.

But the series between South Africa and the Netherlands was a 2 match series. So of course South Africa is not going to take things easy on the Netherlands. And I believe that's what happened. South Africa was able to win both of the matches without too many complications. And South Africa ensured that they won both of the matches and the series quite convincingly. I believe that weaker teams actually have better chances in big ICC tournaments to make a name for themselves.

Honestly, it does not matter too much if they win one match against a big opponent but eventually lose the series. But in big tournaments, let's say in the world cup they beat a big opponent, it is going to make a lot of noise.

[Sithara007]

Disappointed with the heavy loss for Netherlands against South Africa. But they performed decently without their star player (Bas de Leede, out as a result of a heel injury). Also, some of the other crucial players, such as Logan van Beek and Roloef van der Merwe were unavailable as a result of domestic commitments. Anyway, now the qualification scenario for the 2023 ODI World Cup is clear. South Africa has qualified directly from the Super League, while the other three teams - Ireland, West Indies and Sri Lanka needs to participate in the 2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier to gain entry to the world cup. 

[BobK71]

Yes, of course there are two different formats and there is no way to consider in the same way. However, when a weak team loses repeatedly, the opponent often keeps their good players and they try to play with comparatively weak squad. Where a weak team may win. If there is a series of 3 matches where two win and one defeat is very simple but not all teams will play with the same manner. But everything depends on the team players. It is not impossible for the smaller team to lose with the big because of any uncertainty in cricket.

Honestly, it does not matter too much if they win one match against a big opponent but eventually lose the series. But in big tournaments, let's say in the world cup they beat a big opponent, it is going to make a lot of noise.

The reason behind this when a weaker team plays against a stronger team, there is less excitement among the spectators. Because they can predict in advance which team will win. Basically, a team has nothing to lose after winning a series. As a result many times they don't give much importance and the opposite team can win. This is not unusual. However, in the World Cup, every team tries their best to push their team forward to win. The winning and losing of a match plays a big role. So, if a small team wins against a big one, it definitely creates a stir among everyone of the cricket world.

[ThemePen]

The reason behind this when a weaker team plays against a stronger team, there is less excitement among the spectators. Because they can predict in advance which team will win.

But when we see that the opposite team which is less stronger as compare to the other team. And the less stronger team try its best and pull itself to the win so the match become excited. And who predict first they don't take interest in the match so than they watch the highlights of the match. I have seen many cases like this in my life by the way.
But the thing is that we can't underestimate any team. Because any team can come up at anytime.

[Unknown Op]

Disappointed with the heavy loss for Netherlands against South Africa. But they performed decently without their star player (Bas de Leede, out as a result of a heel injury). Also, some of the other crucial players, such as Logan van Beek and Roloef van der Merwe were unavailable as a result of domestic commitments. Anyway, now the qualification scenario for the 2023 ODI World Cup is clear. South Africa has qualified directly from the Super League, while the other three teams - Ireland, West Indies and Sri Lanka needs to participate in the 2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier to gain entry to the world cup. 

Although it is reasonable to be disappointed for the Netherlands, let's not overlook the progress they have recently achieved in developing their cricketing abilities. They have been able to compete with some of the best teams in the world which is a credit to their commitment and effort. They obviously suffered a setback when they lost Bas de Leede and other important players, but they still put up a respectable fight. It is critical to appreciate their efforts and provide them encouragement as they move forward. Who knows, given more money and chances they might take the lead in the sport.

[BALIK]

Disappointed with the heavy loss for Netherlands against South Africa. But they performed decently without their star player (Bas de Leede, out as a result of a heel injury). Also, some of the other crucial players, such as Logan van Beek and Roloef van der Merwe were unavailable as a result of domestic commitments. Anyway, now the qualification scenario for the 2023 ODI World Cup is clear. South Africa has qualified directly from the Super League, while the other three teams - Ireland, West Indies and Sri Lanka needs to participate in the 2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier to gain entry to the world cup. 

Although it is reasonable to be disappointed for the Netherlands, let's not overlook the progress they have recently achieved in developing their cricketing abilities. They have been able to compete with some of the best teams in the world which is a credit to their commitment and effort. They obviously suffered a setback when they lost Bas de Leede and other important players, but they still put up a respectable fight. It is critical to appreciate their efforts and provide them encouragement as they move forward. Who knows, given more money and chances they might take the lead in the sport.

I wouldn't say that the Netherlands disappointed me. I never thought the Netherlands would win against South Africa. However, the weaknesses of the Netherlands team are well understood in this series. I would say Netherlands' main weakness is their bowling. Netherlands bowlers are very inexperienced. The Netherlands will definitely need to find talented bowlers if they want to strengthen the team. In every match, the performance of the Netherlands bowlers was very poor. But the performance of their batsmen was stable. I think Netherlands' overall performance will only get stronger if their bowling line-up gets stronger.

[Ayers]

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The reason behind this when a weaker team plays against a stronger team, there is less excitement among the spectators. Because they can predict in advance which team will win. Basically, a team has nothing to lose after winning a series. As a result many times they don't give much importance and the opposite team can win. This is not unusual. However, in the World Cup, every team tries their best to push their team forward to win. The winning and losing of a match plays a big role. So, if a small team wins against a big one, it definitely creates a stir among everyone of the cricket world.

I think the excitement has certainly become less. For me, it would be a lot more exciting if there are more teams competing regularly against each other. Even a tier system is going to be good for cricket in the long run.

The reason behind this when a weaker team plays against a stronger team, there is less excitement among the spectators. Because they can predict in advance which team will win.

But when we see that the opposite team which is less stronger as compare to the other team. And the less stronger team try its best and pull itself to the win so the match become excited. And who predict first they don't take interest in the match so than they watch the highlights of the match. I have seen many cases like this in my life by the way.
But the thing is that we can't underestimate any team. Because any team can come up at anytime.

Underestimating a small team is probably the worst thing any big team can do. We have seen these types of things happen. But I believe the smaller teams should be given a lot more matches regularly. Even if it is against other smaller teams. Because in the end, you cannot win without a good amount of experience.

[Sithara007]

I wouldn't say that the Netherlands disappointed me. I never thought the Netherlands would win against South Africa. However, the weaknesses of the Netherlands team are well understood in this series. I would say Netherlands' main weakness is their bowling. Netherlands bowlers are very inexperienced. The Netherlands will definitely need to find talented bowlers if they want to strengthen the team. In every match, the performance of the Netherlands bowlers was very poor. But the performance of their batsmen was stable. I think Netherlands' overall performance will only get stronger if their bowling line-up gets stronger.

I would disagree when you say that the Dutch bowling lineup is relatively inexperienced. Many of their bowlers do have the experience of participating in English county cricket. Paul van Meekeren recently represented Khulna Tigers in the BPL. And before that, he was a part of the St Kitts and Nevis Patriots squad in the CPL. Fred Klaassen represents Kent in county cricket, and he represents Manchester Originals in the 100. Brandon Glover has represented Northamptonshire as well as Oval Invincibles. So there is no dearth of experience in this squad.

[ThemePen]

UAE vs Jersey

Toss already done between these two teams. And the United Arab Emirates team choose the bat first. In these two teams UAE team is looking little bit stronger as compare to Jersey team. And if we look the last 5 matches of these two teams so we will see that the UAE team won 3 matches out of 5 matches and Jersey team won only one match out of 5 matches with one draw match. But we can't underestimate the Jersey team. Let see what happens?

[mm2543363580]

UAE vs Jersey

Toss already done between these two teams. And the United Arab Emirates team choose the bat first. In these two teams UAE team is looking little bit stronger as compare to Jersey team. And if we look the last 5 matches of these two teams so we will see that the UAE team won 3 matches out of 5 matches and Jersey team won only one match out of 5 matches with one draw match. But we can't underestimate the Jersey team. Let see what happens?

UAE is a better team than Jersey and they have won couple of matches in qualifiers , their chances of qualifying are very thin but still they are struggling and trying to make it possible .
UAE after 35 overs are on 174 runs they have lost 5 wickets .Muhammad Wasim has again played a brilliant innings of 65 runs he's such a consistent player and have always contributed alot in UAE runs chase .

[Juggy777]

UAE vs Jersey

Toss already done between these two teams. And the United Arab Emirates team choose the bat first. In these two teams UAE team is looking little bit stronger as compare to Jersey team. And if we look the last 5 matches of these two teams so we will see that the UAE team won 3 matches out of 5 matches and Jersey team won only one match out of 5 matches with one draw match. But we can't underestimate the Jersey team. Let see what happens?

UAE is a better team than Jersey and they have won couple of matches in qualifiers , their chances of qualifying are very thin but still they are struggling and trying to make it possible .
UAE after 35 overs are on 174 runs they have lost 5 wickets .Muhammad Wasim has again played a brilliant innings of 65 runs he's such a consistent player and have always contributed alot in UAE runs chase .

@ThemePen UAE is definitely the stronger team and currently they have scored 246 runs and last 4 overs remain, and now I feel that their bowlers have a decent total to defend. Also if Jersey lose few quick wickets then they won’t be able to chase this target, thus I feel that all those who wagered on UAE are bound to win their bets.

[Rabata]

UAE vs Jersey

Toss already done between these two teams. And the United Arab Emirates team choose the bat first. In these two teams UAE team is looking little bit stronger as compare to Jersey team. And if we look the last 5 matches of these two teams so we will see that the UAE team won 3 matches out of 5 matches and Jersey team won only one match out of 5 matches with one draw match. But we can't underestimate the Jersey team. Let see what happens?

UAE is a better team than Jersey and they have won couple of matches in qualifiers , their chances of qualifying are very thin but still they are struggling and trying to make it possible .
UAE after 35 overs are on 174 runs they have lost 5 wickets .Muhammad Wasim has again played a brilliant innings of 65 runs he's such a consistent player and have always contributed alot in UAE runs chase .

@ThemePen UAE is definitely the stronger team and currently they have scored 246 runs and last 4 overs remain, and now I feel that their bowlers have a decent total to defend. Also if Jersey lose few quick wickets then they won’t be able to chase this target, thus I feel that all those who wagered on UAE are bound to win their bets.

United Arab Emirates fans are almost certain to win today's match. United Arab Emirates scored 32 runs in the last 3 overs and that is where they have a big advantage. In the 9th match Jersey won against Papua New Guinea, they scored 291 runs. It must be said that Jersey team is not so much week but what has been possible with Papua New Guinea that would be difficult with the United Arab Emirates. Agree with @Juggy777 those who bet in favor of UAE in this match will win the match.

[Unknown Op]

Let see what happens?

Despite the UAE squad's recent success making them appear stronger, it is crucial to not dismiss the Jersey team. Every maych is a brand new chance for them to show off their abilities and anything might happen that day. The Jersey team can undoubtedly put up a fight against the UAE team with perseverance hard work and an optimistic outlook. It is wonderful to see both sides on the pitch giving it their all and keeping everyone on the edge of their seats. I hope the top team wins

[ilovealtcoins]

Let see what happens?

Despite the UAE squad's recent success making them appear stronger, it is crucial to not dismiss the Jersey team. Every maych is a brand new chance for them to show off their abilities and anything might happen that day. The Jersey team can undoubtedly put up a fight against the UAE team with perseverance hard work and an optimistic outlook. It is wonderful to see both sides on the pitch giving it their all and keeping everyone on the edge of their seats. I hope the top team wins

The Jersey team cannot be called weak. As a completely new team, the way this team is performing is really commendable. Gradually this group may become stronger if they are diligent. However, their chances of victory against UAE in today's match seem unlikely. The UAE team is relatively experienced and has quite a few talented players in their squad. Also today UAE set a huge target of 285 runs. Although the pitch is batting-friendly. Even so, it is challenging for the Jersey players to score 285 runs. But it is not impossible. If Jersey manages to beat UAE then it will be very commendable for them.

[BobK71]

Let see what happens?

Despite the UAE squad's recent success making them appear stronger, it is crucial to not dismiss the Jersey team. Every maych is a brand new chance for them to show off their abilities and anything might happen that day. The Jersey team can undoubtedly put up a fight against the UAE team with perseverance hard work and an optimistic outlook. It is wonderful to see both sides on the pitch giving it their all and keeping everyone on the edge of their seats. I hope the top team wins

United Arab Emirates were leading the match as favorites and the result reflected the same. United Arab Emirates played a big innings of 281 runs against which Jersey went down to play and lost the match by getting all out for 218 runs. Among the Jersey batsmen, Harrison Carlyon played an innings of 85 runs which was their team's highest score. He managed to score 85 off 89 balls and after that
Asa Tribe who managed to score 40 runs off 48 balls. The rest did not perform very well. As a result they had to lose the match.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Let see what happens?

Despite the UAE squad's recent success making them appear stronger, it is crucial to not dismiss the Jersey team. Every maych is a brand new chance for them to show off their abilities and anything might happen that day. The Jersey team can undoubtedly put up a fight against the UAE team with perseverance hard work and an optimistic outlook. It is wonderful to see both sides on the pitch giving it their all and keeping everyone on the edge of their seats. I hope the top team wins

United Arab Emirates were leading the match as favorites and the result reflected the same. United Arab Emirates played a big innings of 281 runs against which Jersey went down to play and lost the match by getting all out for 218 runs. Among the Jersey batsmen, Harrison Carlyon played an innings of 85 runs which was their team's highest score. He managed to score 85 off 89 balls and after that
Asa Tribe who managed to score 40 runs off 48 balls. The rest did not perform very well. As a result they had to lose the match.

Initially UAE was not performing good but now from couple of recent matches they have shown great improvement with their batting specially and that's the reason they are winning
 They are already leading points table and there are fair chances of them in ODI world cup if they'll continue with their good batting.