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September 05, 2022, 11:31:10 AM
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They had a huge problem in game 7, not having their coach is already a major problem, and Erram was unlucky he got ejected, he could be a big used to at least limit Fajardo, but he wasn't careful enough. What I've seen also is Mikey Williams not able to continue his good start, he was very limited in the 2nd half so Castro really has nothing in terms of help.
Chot's son subbed him in the very final game. Is it a coincidence? We don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it's planned. Too many problems existed on their end and that's already a sign that they won't have a good game 7.
Well, they should just do better next time. I saw how Castro tried his best but it's not really that enough when it's already too late.

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September 05, 2022, 12:03:45 PM
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They had a huge problem in game 7, not having their coach is already a major problem, and Erram was unlucky he got ejected, he could be a big used to at least limit Fajardo, but he wasn't careful enough. What I've seen also is Mikey Williams not able to continue his good start, he was very limited in the 2nd half so Castro really has nothing in terms of help.
Chot's son subbed him in the very final game. Is it a coincidence? We don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it's planned. Too many problems existed on their end and that's already a sign that they won't have a good game 7.
Well, they should just do better next time. I saw how Castro tried his best but it's not really that enough when it's already too late.
They still have more conference to come and it looks like SMB and TNT will surely meet again in the upcoming EASL, since the top 2 PBA teams will be the one to represent for the this. EASL are compose of international teams, this can be a good exposure for the PBA teams. Well, we have to move on now and accept the fact that  SMB really deserve the championship. I can't wait to see EASL this year, I'm just wondering if this can affect the upcoming season in PBA.

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September 05, 2022, 12:12:45 PM
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They had a huge problem in game 7, not having their coach is already a major problem, and Erram was unlucky he got ejected, he could be a big used to at least limit Fajardo, but he wasn't careful enough. What I've seen also is Mikey Williams not able to continue his good start, he was very limited in the 2nd half so Castro really has nothing in terms of help.
Chot's son subbed him in the very final game. Is it a coincidence? We don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it's planned. Too many problems existed on their end and that's already a sign that they won't have a good game 7.
Well, they should just do better next time. I saw how Castro tried his best but it's not really that enough when it's already too late.
They still have more conference to come and it looks like SMB and TNT will surely meet again in the upcoming EASL, since the top 2 PBA teams will be the one to represent for the this. EASL are compose of international teams, this can be a good exposure for the PBA teams. Well, we have to move on now and accept the fact that  SMB really deserve the championship. I can't wait to see EASL this year, I'm just wondering if this can affect the upcoming season in PBA.

That one are more exciting, it's an international competition and hopefully the players that will represent in FIBA are coming from the two best teams in the PBA since with this EASL tournament, they will gain more experience. SMB are now celebrating, especially JMF who won both player of the conference and finals MVP.



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September 05, 2022, 12:26:55 PM
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Mikey becomes much worst at most games in this series that's why I called him Mikey "Choke" Williams. Cheesy Grin

Rightfully. He scored 2 points in game 6 where they could have closed the finals if he performed in his normal scoring average. And again in game 7, though he was a monster in the first half, he was very cold when it matters the most. He failed to score in the 4th quarter when the team needed someone to carry them.

TNT still manage to chase the lead in 3rd quarter but in the half part of 4th quarter, it looks like they stop doing good plays and that’s why SMB was able to take a huge lead. Kudos to the whole staff and players of both team for a great championship series, the better team prevails and that is SMB. Lucky to the fans who are also placed a bet, time for a celebration!

TNT is exhausted in the 3rd quarter and because some of them are injured and Erram was ejected from the game, there is not much rotation from the players. Castro playing on a sprained ankle is just forcing himself to play. He performed well though you can really see that he is hurt every time he landed on his feet.
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September 05, 2022, 12:33:18 PM
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TNT is exhausted in the 3rd quarter and because some of them are injured and Erram was ejected from the game, there is not much rotation from the players. Castro playing on a sprained ankle is just forcing himself to play. He performed well though you can really see that he is hurt every time he landed on his feet.

I think they look exhausted in the 4th quarter as they have a big run in the 3rd quarter, there are even times that they lead the game, but in the 4th quarter, it was really the dominant SMB that took over the game, IIRC, it started with a 17-0 run, that's unbelievable.

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September 05, 2022, 01:51:39 PM
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They had a huge problem in game 7, not having their coach is already a major problem, and Erram was unlucky he got ejected, he could be a big used to at least limit Fajardo, but he wasn't careful enough. What I've seen also is Mikey Williams not able to continue his good start, he was very limited in the 2nd half so Castro really has nothing in terms of help.
Chot's son subbed him in the very final game. Is it a coincidence? We don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it's planned. Too many problems existed on their end and that's already a sign that they won't have a good game 7.
Well, they should just do better next time. I saw how Castro tried his best but it's not really that enough when it's already too late.

After that loss not sure if fans will embrace the possibilities that choke son will replace him for that higher post, though it's very possible as we know how close choke with MVP, he can do everything he wants even there are fans who already showing disappointment. It's their money, and it's a business. Maybe MVP loves that, hype an even negative, writeup still a way of advertisement.

We don't know what the future will bring but the thing here is Castro did try everything that he've got and we have seen him playing with the same kind of passion way back in his prime.



TNT is exhausted in the 3rd quarter and because some of them are injured and Erram was ejected from the game, there is not much rotation from the players. Castro playing on a sprained ankle is just forcing himself to play. He performed well though you can really see that he is hurt every time he landed on his feet.

I think they look exhausted in the 4th quarter as they have a big run in the 3rd quarter, there are even times that they lead the game, but in the 4th quarter, it was really the dominant SMB that took over the game, IIRC, it started with a 17-0 run, that's unbelievable.

The deep bench of SMB plays them well during the final quarter. SMB manage to rest Fajardo as Lassiter, Ross and Perez explode in sealing the win.

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September 05, 2022, 07:10:29 PM
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Chot's son subbed him in the very final game. Is it a coincidence? We don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it's planned. Too many problems existed on their end and that's already a sign that they won't have a good game 7.
Well, they should just do better next time. I saw how Castro tried his best but it's not really that enough when it's already too late.
They still have more conference to come and it looks like SMB and TNT will surely meet again in the upcoming EASL, since the top 2 PBA teams will be the one to represent for the this. EASL are compose of international teams, this can be a good exposure for the PBA teams. Well, we have to move on now and accept the fact that  SMB really deserve the championship. I can't wait to see EASL this year, I'm just wondering if this can affect the upcoming season in PBA.
It's an exciting league to see and how these two will perform there. I think it won't affect the next season, as usual, there's a settlement for their schedules so that's all been set though.

Chot's son subbed him in the very final game. Is it a coincidence? We don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it's planned. Too many problems existed on their end and that's already a sign that they won't have a good game 7.
Well, they should just do better next time. I saw how Castro tried his best but it's not really that enough when it's already too late.

After that loss not sure if fans will embrace the possibilities that choke son will replace him for that higher post, though it's very possible as we know how close choke with MVP, he can do everything he wants even there are fans who already showing disappointment. It's their money, and it's a business. Maybe MVP loves that, hype an even negative, writeup still a way of advertisement.

We don't know what the future will bring but the thing here is Castro did try everything that he've got and we have seen him playing with the same kind of passion way back in his prime.
I think that Chot will still be there, it just so happens that he's on the hot seat from the issue that he's got from Gilas and TNT. Well, there's the politics as usual.
If you're going to think about it, the TNT management just allowed this to happen despite there's the contract. Is Josh the assistant coach or he was just appointed by his father? If not, then it should be the assistant coach that should be coaching them on that game 7.

Speaking of coaches, coach Yeng Guiao is back on ROS.

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September 05, 2022, 09:44:59 PM
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That one are more exciting, it's an international competition and hopefully the players that will represent in FIBA are coming from the two best teams in the PBA since with this EASL tournament, they will gain more experience. SMB are now celebrating, especially JMF who won both player of the conference and finals MVP.
We already have a good players for Gilas, maybe we just need to add key players from this two teams to help Gilas on their next quest. EASL is a good international league where our players can showcase their skills and talent, it’s good that top two team will be the chosen team to proceed internationally. Can’t wait to see them again, but hopefully they can have a good rest for now since they just finish the long season.
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Congrats to SMB, to coach Leo and to all of the staff and as well as the fans who have bet for SMB to be the champ on this conference.
Well, that's just like a massacre to the TNT. When I was watching the 3rd and 4th quarter, well, I thought that the lead will be able to reach and covered back by the TNT but they didn't. On the last quarter, those three attempts weren't that great whilst the opposite on the SMB, almost all of the threes were like back to back ins.
TNT still manage to chase the lead in 3rd quarter but in the half part of 4th quarter, it looks like they stop doing good plays and that’s why SMB was able to take a huge lead. Kudos to the whole staff and players of both team for a great championship series, the better team prevails and that is SMB. Lucky to the fans who are also placed a bet, time for a celebration!

That's why it's really hard to give a team a good lead and then chase after it, because you might not have the legs needed in the fourth quarter. And I think this is what happen to TNT, they allow SMB to established a good lead, and then try to cut it out in the 3rd which they did. But SMB has the fresh legs in the 4th quarter and then make another run in which TNT can't respond anymore because they are all spent in the first 3 quarters chasing SMB.

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September 05, 2022, 10:14:55 PM
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They had a huge problem in game 7, not having their coach is already a major problem, and Erram was unlucky he got ejected, he could be a big used to at least limit Fajardo, but he wasn't careful enough. What I've seen also is Mikey Williams not able to continue his good start, he was very limited in the 2nd half so Castro really has nothing in terms of help.
Chot's son subbed him in the very final game. Is it a coincidence? We don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it's planned. Too many problems existed on their end and that's already a sign that they won't have a good game 7.
Well, they should just do better next time. I saw how Castro tried his best but it's not really that enough when it's already too late.

Josh Reyes is the lead deputy of TNT in PBA that is why he is the one that subbed him during Chot's absence in Game 7. It is just unfortunate that their headcoach went under health protocols in the most important game of the season. In game 4 and 5, Josh is also out of the country to coach Gilas U-18 so assistant coach Sandy Arespacochaga took the helm during that time. I think he did a good job considering TNT  is riddled with injuries and undermanned.
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September 05, 2022, 11:32:05 PM
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Alright, so just a couple of weeks' rest, and the PBA will now commence the 2nd conference of the season which is the Commissioners Cup.

September 21 is the opening of the PBA Commissioners Cup. And as previously announced by the PBA prior to the opening of the All-Filipino Cup, there will be a guest team next conference which is the Bay Area Dragons of the East Asia Super League.

For those who are unaware, Manila will host the EASL next year and PH representatives will be San Miguel Beermen and TNT Katropa.

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September 05, 2022, 11:59:02 PM
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Josh Reyes is the lead deputy of TNT in PBA that is why he is the one that subbed him during Chot's absence in Game 7. It is just unfortunate that their headcoach went under health protocols in the most important game of the season. In game 4 and 5, Josh is also out of the country to coach Gilas U-18 so assistant coach Sandy Arespacochaga took the helm during that time. I think he did a good job considering TNT  is riddled with injuries and undermanned.

Chot Reyes appearance really does matter on that Game 7. But the hell there's no reason or any detailed information why Chot put on health and safety protocols.
TNT is not really complete in that game starting from their coaching staff to problems with their players because of injuries. Even though some are playing, we can't hide the fact that they are suffering pain in their body.

TNT doesn't have a reliable big man and Erram got ejected early on in the game. That also gives SMB an advantage.
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I saw the banner of the EASL league bracket and saw SMB and TNT on a different bracket.

Not looking at the details yet but it seems that 2 teams from local leagues of those joined countries will be the participants.

ls Bay Area Dragons eligible on joining the playoffs in the PBA? Is there any information about this?

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September 21 is the opening of the PBA Commissioners Cup. And as previously announced by the PBA prior to the opening of the All-Filipino Cup, there will be a guest team next conference which is the Bay Area Dragons of the East Asia Super League.

For those who are unaware, Manila will host the EASL next year and PH representatives will be San Miguel Beermen and TNT Katropa.
So, they only have weeks of rest and then the new conference will start again. I heard it from one of the commentators while I'm watching PBA (I think it's Dr. J) saying that Commissioners Cup's opening will be in September and he's right.

Anyway, is there any list of imports from each team already? Just don't include Ginebra because we already know their import. Smiley

ls Bay Area Dragons eligible on joining the playoffs in the PBA? Is there any information about this?
I think they will. I mean what will be their reason of playing in the PBA if they will not join the playoffs.
PBA added them to increase the competition around the league. I think they are eligible because it will be useless for the Dragons if they will play in the PBA and will not be eligible in entering to the playoffs for whatever reason it is.

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September 06, 2022, 12:12:05 PM
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I saw the banner of the EASL league bracket and saw SMB and TNT on a different bracket.

Not looking at the details yet but it seems that 2 teams from local leagues of those joined countries will be the participants.
Yes, they're going to participant and join the EASL and that's why there's another league that we should watch and tune in.

ls Bay Area Dragons eligible on joining the playoffs in the PBA? Is there any information about this?
IIRC, they're a guest team that shall participate in the next conference of PBA. So, if they're eligible for the playoffs, yes if they will reach to that point.

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I'm happy for coach yeng.

PBA: Yeng Guiao returns as Rain or Shine head coach


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MANILA, Philippines—Yeng Guiao is back as head coach of Rain or Shine, a team he steered to two championships in 2012 and 2016.

The Elasto Painters announced Guiao’s return on Monday just days after he and NLEX “mutually agreed to part ways.”

“Now, he returns to coach a new generation of Elasto Painters. Only Gabe Norwood, Beau Belga, and Jewel Ponferrada remain from the ROS team Coach Yeng coached,” the team posted on Instagram.

What are your thoughts about this one, can coach Yeng make ROS a great team again?
I saw them fighting for a championship game before and have won championships, but when coach Yeng leave the team, they are struggling to be in the playoffs.

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I'm happy for coach yeng.

PBA: Yeng Guiao returns as Rain or Shine head coach


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MANILA, Philippines—Yeng Guiao is back as head coach of Rain or Shine, a team he steered to two championships in 2012 and 2016.

The Elasto Painters announced Guiao’s return on Monday just days after he and NLEX “mutually agreed to part ways.”

“Now, he returns to coach a new generation of Elasto Painters. Only Gabe Norwood, Beau Belga, and Jewel Ponferrada remain from the ROS team Coach Yeng coached,” the team posted on Instagram.

What are your thoughts about this one, can coach Yeng make ROS a great team again?
I saw them fighting for a championship game before and have won championships, but when coach Yeng leave the team, they are struggling to be in the playoffs.
Snow Badua already gave hints regarding this days before the confirmation happened and TBH, coaching your old team is always good.
The problem that I'm seeing right now is the current roster. When he handled the team a few years ago, it was star-studded and was filled with great players. Now the roster of ROS is composed of rookies and some average players. Well, I'm not judging them by their current roster but that can be a problem for the team as well. Anyway, having a new coach might be a new beginning for the team. Let's see how they will perform in the Commissioner's Cup.

On the other hand, I saw some rumors again that MVP team coaches will be shuffled. I don't know how and why but looking on how Coach Luigi Trillio coached the Bolts when Coach Norman Black is still out, I'm guessing that he might be the new coach of NLEX but we don't know since there are no news coming out yet on who will be the next coach of the Road Warriors. Any insights?

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September 06, 2022, 03:32:14 PM
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Josh Reyes is the lead deputy of TNT in PBA that is why he is the one that subbed him during Chot's absence in Game 7. It is just unfortunate that their headcoach went under health protocols in the most important game of the season. In game 4 and 5, Josh is also out of the country to coach Gilas U-18 so assistant coach Sandy Arespacochaga took the helm during that time. I think he did a good job considering TNT  is riddled with injuries and undermanned.

Chot Reyes appearance really does matter on that Game 7. But the hell there's no reason or any detailed information why Chot put on health and safety protocols.
TNT is not really complete in that game starting from their coaching staff to problems with their players because of injuries. Even though some are playing, we can't hide the fact that they are suffering pain in their body.

TNT doesn't have a reliable big man and Erram got ejected early on in the game. That also gives SMB an advantage.

Just a personal assumption, after losing game 6 TNT knows that SMB will force in taking game 7 as they are more complete compared with TNT's questionable gunner, they can't compete with players that are not in 100% condition, and same with what you said that early ejection of Erram is also a factor, his production inside adds up with the guards of TNT.

I don't see any difference if ever Choke is the one who's mentoring them if the same case happens with Erram. SMB is really hunger for that
win as we have seen Lassiter and Ross play that last quarter run.

Together with Perez, Tau, Manuel and the goat of PBA Fajardo, they reclaim the throne and win the title.

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September 06, 2022, 07:59:37 PM
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What are your thoughts about this one, can coach Yeng make ROS a great team again?
I saw them fighting for a championship game before and have won championships, but when coach Yeng leave the team, they are struggling to be in the playoffs.
He can.
There's not that much reaction on it as it was his past team before and it'll also depend to the players that he's got.

Together with Perez, Tau, Manuel and the goat of PBA Fajardo, they reclaim the throne and win the title.
I'm happy for Perez and Tau and for the other members of SMB who has won their first ever title.

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I'm happy for coach yeng.

What are your thoughts about this one, can coach Yeng make ROS a great team again?
I saw them fighting for a championship game before and have won championships, but when coach Yeng leave the team, they are struggling to be in the playoffs.
They might be on a better system now but I think they still need to add more good players on their rosters especially on their key players but this is indeed a good news for the team. Now let’s see if coach Yeng will just use his strategy being with NLEX or there will be a total change on that. We will see that in the up coming season, for now it’s hard to say ROS to become a contender again, other teams are too hard for them. 
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