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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
Total Voters: 33

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December 15, 2022, 05:04:09 PM
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@jakelyson, please confirm your participation kabayan so i can list your name and your bet for Magnolia.


I was not able to log in for a few days because of work. If it is okay with the participants, I would still want to push through with my bet on Magnolia. I will wave my bet on SMB vs Bay Area because I want to bet on Dragons, but they won the first game.


I think there's no problem with your bet on Magnolia because they are already behind the series. For sure participants would let you in. For SMB vs Bay Area, this series will be close, despite Bay Area won game 1, but it was the SMB who dominated most of the quarters.

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December 15, 2022, 06:17:42 PM
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@jakelyson, please confirm your participation kabayan so i can list your name and your bet for Magnolia.


I was not able to log in for a few days because of work. If it is okay with the participants, I would still want to push through with my bet on Magnolia. I will wave my bet on SMB vs Bay Area because I want to bet on Dragons, but they won the first game.


I think there's no problem with your bet on Magnolia because they are already behind the series. For sure participants would let you in. For SMB vs Bay Area, this series will be close, despite Bay Area won game 1, but it was the SMB who dominated most of the quarters.

I agree with the bet for Magnolia since they lost the first game. Those who are in favor of Ginebra will accept his bet to continue, though still depend on how the participants will take it and approved, just saying my personal take Kabayan. Moving forward to the game, SMB needs to bounce back after that exciting game 1. They needed to adjust more and, like what coach george said; he was late calling the last play, if he manage to bring Fajardo back the chance of winning might take place, but for me, it's a good call as a coach it just so happen that Cruz missed the crucial shot but if he nailed it, the outcome is different.

Let see if how both the losing teams will adjust to try tieing the series. Still have 2 more games, but this game 2 is very crucial for them.

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December 15, 2022, 09:10:47 PM
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@jakelyson, please confirm your participation kabayan so i can list your name and your bet for Magnolia.


I was not able to log in for a few days because of work. If it is okay with the participants, I would still want to push through with my bet on Magnolia. I will wave my bet on SMB vs Bay Area because I want to bet on Dragons, but they won the first game.

AFAIC, no problem on your participation on this fun bet kabayan. Consider your bet of 500 Php for Magnolia Hotshots counted. I think there's no problem with harizen and Maslate because Magnolia loses game 1, they even have the advantage hehe.



The odds for both games have changed since game 1 with Ginebra now the underdog in game2, odds between Magnolia and Ginebra was even in game one. See below for odds of game 2, i'll still take the odds ML for SMB Beermen and with handicap for Magnolia Hotshots.

Magnolia -1.5 @1.87 vs Ginebra
SMB Beermen @2.58 vs Dragons



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December 15, 2022, 10:31:37 PM
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I think that I have to share it here since most people here are PBA fans and bettors. There's this rumor or probably confirmed already that Snow gave a hint that there's one team that's about to be sold soon.
Many fans think that it's Rain or Shine because of the hint that he has given in his social media post.

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December 15, 2022, 10:44:23 PM
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Ginebra won and that’s a clear domination from them though its just a first game but I’m confident that Ginebra will continue its momentum so they can reach another finals.

If you were able to watch that game, there's no clear domination from Ginebra the whole game. In fact, they even feel relaxed and Coach Tim Cone admitted it when Magnolia Import got ejected. That would be their lesson for Game 2 that still treat their opponent as fair even playing without an import.

As for the Magnolia import, he should also learn its lesson to remain calm. His attitude, that affects his usual gameplay which in fact, it's not his usual. If he will keep on doing such unnecessary actions on the court, he will instead become a burden and problem instead of being an important piece on the team.

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December 16, 2022, 09:42:25 AM
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Ginebra won and that’s a clear domination from them though its just a first game but I’m confident that Ginebra will continue its momentum so they can reach another finals.

If you were able to watch that game, there's no clear domination from Ginebra the whole game. In fact, they even feel relaxed and Coach Tim Cone admitted it when Magnolia Import got ejected. That would be their lesson for Game 2 that still treat their opponent as fair even playing without an import.

As for the Magnolia import, he should also learn its lesson to remain calm. His attitude, that affects his usual gameplay which in fact, it's not his usual. If he will keep on doing such unnecessary actions on the court, he will instead become a burden and problem instead of being an important piece on the team.

He was calm in game 2, and that resulted to a good win. Paul Lee hit the game winner, he is back again and his shooting is very accurate. I love what Magnolia are doing now, they are not easily giving up despite knowing how heavily favored the Gin Kings.

Tied at 1-1, more exciting games ahead.

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December 16, 2022, 10:37:17 AM
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Ginebra won and that’s a clear domination from them though its just a first game but I’m confident that Ginebra will continue its momentum so they can reach another finals.

If you were able to watch that game, there's no clear domination from Ginebra the whole game. In fact, they even feel relaxed and Coach Tim Cone admitted it when Magnolia Import got ejected. That would be their lesson for Game 2 that still treat their opponent as fair even playing without an import.

As for the Magnolia import, he should also learn its lesson to remain calm. His attitude, that affects his usual gameplay which in fact, it's not his usual. If he will keep on doing such unnecessary actions on the court, he will instead become a burden and problem instead of being an important piece on the team.

He was calm in game 2, and that resulted to a good win. Paul Lee hit the game winner, he is back again and his shooting is very accurate. I love what Magnolia are doing now, they are not easily giving up despite knowing how heavily favored the Gin Kings.

Tied at 1-1, more exciting games ahead.

I will be betting on Ginebra in game 3, if they'll lose that game I'm thinking of doubling my bet. I believe they have a shot of getting ahead in the series again, I don't want to be greedy so I'll just put in a little amount so I'll be able to afford my bet once it's necessary to double it.


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December 16, 2022, 11:26:26 AM
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Can the SMB be able to come back in the 4th quarter?

This is the opposite of what happened in game 1, it's now the Bay Area Dragons who are dictating the game, so let's see if SMB will be able to turn things around in the last quarter of the game. It's a must-win for them as they can't go down 2-0 as that would look like they'll be eliminated early or even be swept.



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December 16, 2022, 12:10:09 PM
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Can the SMB be able to come back in the 4th quarter?

This is the opposite of what happened in game 1, it's now the Bay Area Dragons who are dictating the game, so let's see if SMB will be able to turn things around in the last quarter of the game. It's a must-win for them as they can't go down 2-0 as that would look like they'll be eliminated early or even be swept.

unfortunately, they weren't able to come back. I wasn't expecting the result of this game, I thought it was a close game and SMB will try to even the series, but look at what happened? once again Bay Area Dragons showed their dominance on PBA teams, and that's SMB, one of the best teams in the PBA.

I think it's not necessary for Powell to come back as Nicholson is very well fitted to the team.

114-95, it's a big win by Bay Dragons, and they have Nicholson who scored 34 while SMB's import only made 14 points from 6/15 shooting.
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Can the SMB be able to come back in the 4th quarter?

This is the opposite of what happened in game 1, it's now the Bay Area Dragons who are dictating the game, so let's see if SMB will be able to turn things around in the last quarter of the game. It's a must-win for them as they can't go down 2-0 as that would look like they'll be eliminated early or even be swept.

unfortunately, they weren't able to come back. I wasn't expecting the result of this game, I thought it was a close game and SMB will try to even the series, but look at what happened? once again Bay Area Dragons showed their dominance on PBA teams, and that's SMB, one of the best teams in the PBA.

I think it's not necessary for Powell to come back as Nicholson is very well fitted to the team.

114-95, it's a big win by Bay Dragons, and they have Nicholson who scored 34 while SMB's import only made 14 points from 6/15 shooting.
Actually I'll loss that game because I bet on SMB but very unlucky and Bay area Dragon win.
We are the same mate as you said I thought that SMB will even the series but the opposite is what we saw last hour, maybe their strategy is not enough to beat Bay Area Dragon cause they are very tough team. Even though they change their import but still they are unstoppable right now and how much more if Powell will came back and play in Bay area Dragons. In next game  maybe SMB team will have a good play and make the match as close as they can .


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December 16, 2022, 12:26:38 PM
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Can the SMB be able to come back in the 4th quarter?

This is the opposite of what happened in game 1, it's now the Bay Area Dragons who are dictating the game, so let's see if SMB will be able to turn things around in the last quarter of the game. It's a must-win for them as they can't go down 2-0 as that would look like they'll be eliminated early or even be swept.

unfortunately, they weren't able to come back. I wasn't expecting the result of this game, I thought it was a close game and SMB will try to even the series, but look at what happened? once again Bay Area Dragons showed their dominance on PBA teams, and that's SMB, one of the best teams in the PBA.

I think it's not necessary for Powell to come back as Nicholson is very well fitted to the team.

114-95, it's a big win by Bay Dragons, and they have Nicholson who scored 34 while SMB's import only made 14 points from 6/15 shooting.
Actually I'll loss that game because I bet on SMB but very unlucky and Bay area Dragon win.
We are the same mate as you said I thought that SMB will even the series but the opposite is what we saw last hour, maybe their strategy is not enough to beat Bay Area Dragon cause they are very tough team. Even though they change their import but still they are unstoppable right now and how much more if Powell will came back and play in Bay area Dragons. In next game  maybe SMB team will have a good play and make the match as close as they can .



It would be okay if SMB at least make the game interesting. Unfortunately, it was only a once sided beatdown as SMB was unable to match the intensity of Bay Area. I guess this series is already over, I don't expect that SMB will come back to win the series when they don't have a quality import.

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Can the SMB be able to come back in the 4th quarter?

This is the opposite of what happened in game 1, it's now the Bay Area Dragons who are dictating the game, so let's see if SMB will be able to turn things around in the last quarter of the game. It's a must-win for them as they can't go down 2-0 as that would look like they'll be eliminated early or even be swept.

unfortunately, they weren't able to come back. I wasn't expecting the result of this game, I thought it was a close game and SMB will try to even the series, but look at what happened? once again Bay Area Dragons showed their dominance on PBA teams, and that's SMB, one of the best teams in the PBA.

I think it's not necessary for Powell to come back as Nicholson is very well fitted to the team.

114-95, it's a big win by Bay Dragons, and they have Nicholson who scored 34 while SMB's import only made 14 points from 6/15 shooting.
Actually I'll loss that game because I bet on SMB but very unlucky and Bay area Dragon win.
We are the same mate as you said I thought that SMB will even the series but the opposite is what we saw last hour, maybe their strategy is not enough to beat Bay Area Dragon cause they are very tough team. Even though they change their import but still they are unstoppable right now and how much more if Powell will came back and play in Bay area Dragons. In next game  maybe SMB team will have a good play and make the match as close as they can .



It would be okay if SMB at least make the game interesting. Unfortunately, it was only a once sided beatdown as SMB was unable to match the intensity of Bay Area. I guess this series is already over, I don't expect that SMB will come back to win the series when they don't have a quality import.

They can't match any player of the dragons and it seems Fajardo is the only one they can rely on the floor but if Fajardo is out they are totally doomed. Maybe they should learn with this and carry out thru their practice since what the guess team did to them is totally a great experience to learn from. This series is already over as we see how the SMB got dominated by this foreign team.

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I think that I have to share it here since most people here are PBA fans and bettors. There's this rumor or probably confirmed already that Snow gave a hint that there's one team that's about to be sold soon.
Many fans think that it's Rain or Shine because of the hint that he has given in his social media post.
If we are talking about teams getting sold, look always at those independent teams Cheesy.
Blackwater tried but they didn't continue to sell it. NLEX are on the verge of selling months ago but they didn't continue. ROS? I guess it's time for them since they have been doing awfully these past years and their best years are when they have Paul Lee and other all-star players. If this will turn out to be true, which company will try to buy that franchise. I hope SM will come to the league since they want to join the league. Cheesy

He was calm in game 2, and that resulted to a good win. Paul Lee hit the game winner, he is back again and his shooting is very accurate. I love what Magnolia are doing now, they are not easily giving up despite knowing how heavily favored the Gin Kings.

Tied at 1-1, more exciting games ahead.
Just by looking at how they played in Game 1, you can already say that the Hotshots have a chance to defeat the Ginebra. They played in Game 1 without import and yet they only lost by 3 points. This match-up is very exciting because both games are so close to the point that we don't know who will win still unlike the other match-up.

They can't match any player of the dragons and it seems Fajardo is the only one they can rely on the floor but if Fajardo is out they are totally doomed. Maybe they should learn with this and carry out thru their practice since what the guess team did to them is totally a great experience to learn from. This series is already over as we see how the SMB got dominated by this foreign team.
It looks like the Dragons are too much for the Beermen.
6 players of Dragons in double digits against only 4 for the Beermen and their import Scott isn't as efficient as he was in the eliminations. It seems like the presence of Nicholson and that 7-footer in the paint really affects their game style and some of the players of the Dragons are fast and tall as well so it will be hard for the guards of Beermen to score. Total domination for the Dragons.

2-0 in favor of the Dragons and tied at 1 on the other match-up. Next game will be on Sunday. Will the Beermen get eliminated on Sunday or they will extend the series. I'll go with Ginebra on Game 3, and I might put a bet on them depending on the odds.

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December 16, 2022, 04:25:02 PM
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Can the SMB be able to come back in the 4th quarter?

This is the opposite of what happened in game 1, it's now the Bay Area Dragons who are dictating the game, so let's see if SMB will be able to turn things around in the last quarter of the game. It's a must-win for them as they can't go down 2-0 as that would look like they'll be eliminated early or even be swept.

unfortunately, they weren't able to come back. I wasn't expecting the result of this game, I thought it was a close game and SMB will try to even the series, but look at what happened? once again Bay Area Dragons showed their dominance on PBA teams, and that's SMB, one of the best teams in the PBA.

I think it's not necessary for Powell to come back as Nicholson is very well fitted to the team.

114-95, it's a big win by Bay Dragons, and they have Nicholson who scored 34 while SMB's import only made 14 points from 6/15 shooting.
Actually I'll loss that game because I bet on SMB but very unlucky and Bay area Dragon win.
We are the same mate as you said I thought that SMB will even the series but the opposite is what we saw last hour, maybe their strategy is not enough to beat Bay Area Dragon cause they are very tough team. Even though they change their import but still they are unstoppable right now and how much more if Powell will came back and play in Bay area Dragons. In next game  maybe SMB team will have a good play and make the match as close as they can .



It would be okay if SMB at least make the game interesting. Unfortunately, it was only a once sided beatdown as SMB was unable to match the intensity of Bay Area. I guess this series is already over, I don't expect that SMB will come back to win the series when they don't have a quality import.

They can't match any player of the dragons and it seems Fajardo is the only one they can rely on the floor but if Fajardo is out they are totally doomed. Maybe they should learn with this and carry out thru their practice since what the guess team did to them is totally a great experience to learn from. This series is already over as we see how the SMB got dominated by this foreign team.

That's right mate only Junmar Fajardo can motivate the team to play harder and give their opponent close fight but if without junmar they like a puppy always chasing a food. But for me there's still hope that BAY AREA DRAGONS  will lost. And the only one thing that SMB need is to rotate the ball faster as they can and give it to the open one  they are far from the height but they can win through speed and technique.

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SMB doesn’t have a chance for the quarter finals for now. They had huge chances against the dragon. But the dragon need to work with huge patience for the game and to win the game for the game. SMB had a opinion to lead the series and the rest of the team need to work like favour to SMB. Dragon had a good game next to the SMB. Ginebra was strong against the team of Magnolia and can win the game very easily. Ginebra game was unique in this league. SMB was good in their game but most of people opinion for the game is actually the Ginebra and Ginebra was good on their knowledge in the game.
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That's right mate only Junmar Fajardo can motivate the team to play harder and give their opponent close fight but if without junmar they like a puppy always chasing a food. But for me there's still hope that BAY AREA DRAGONS  will lost. And the only one thing that SMB need is to rotate the ball faster as they can and give it to the open one  they are far from the height but they can win through speed and technique.

The visiting team's shooting percentage is really high today, there's nothing SMB can do to stop them, even Fajardo is trying to carry the team but with the hot shooting outside, visiting team really dominated them, and the fact that they've managed to stop Perez and Romeo is not shooting well, that's really a tough game for Fajardo.

They can't do stop the moving rotations of the Dragons, both outside and inside attacks are really damaging.

The game 1 trauma is still there and really affects the defending champ. Dragon might sweep SMB or maybe SMB may comeback and
try to force the series to another game.

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December 16, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
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I think that I have to share it here since most people here are PBA fans and bettors. There's this rumor or probably confirmed already that Snow gave a hint that there's one team that's about to be sold soon.
Many fans think that it's Rain or Shine because of the hint that he has given in his social media post.
If we are talking about teams getting sold, look always at those independent teams Cheesy.
Blackwater tried but they didn't continue to sell it. NLEX are on the verge of selling months ago but they didn't continue. ROS? I guess it's time for them since they have been doing awfully these past years and their best years are when they have Paul Lee and other all-star players. If this will turn out to be true, which company will try to buy that franchise. I hope SM will come to the league since they want to join the league. Cheesy
AFAIK, Chooks to go wants to enter PBA but it's been so long that they still haven't allowed it and got no franchise on it. Maybe it will be on them, just like what happened with Alaska, Converge took the spot and franchise. I am sure that there's a line of those who have already shown interest of buying it because they know how big it is to get into PBA and the expenses would be that much and millions of money they'll have to spend on it but lesser budget if they're targeting for its advertisements.

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December 16, 2022, 10:55:33 PM
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After the close game competition between San Miguel Beermen and Bay Area Dragons in Game 1, what happened in Game 2 seems not a competitive game.

Game 2 shows us an apparent domination of the Dragons against the defending champ, SMB. I can't imagine now that SMB will still bounce back.

Difficult to think that Dragons will lose twice in a row. They will take this series even if they will lose the next game.

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December 16, 2022, 10:59:33 PM
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It looks like the Dragons are too much for the Beermen.
6 players of Dragons in double digits against only 4 for the Beermen and their import Scott isn't as efficient as he was in the eliminations. It seems like the presence of Nicholson and that 7-footer in the paint really affects their game style and some of the players of the Dragons are fast and tall as well so it will be hard for the guards of Beermen to score. Total domination for the Dragons.

Height really is a factor on why the Beermen struggle against the Dragons plus the fact that six players contributed double digits offensive output only shows that they already have figured out how to maneuver the defense of the Beermen. 2-0 is a deep hole but this is basketball and anything can happen but i'm expecting for the worst that the Dragons will swept the Beermen.

2-0 in favor of the Dragons and tied at 1 on the other match-up. Next game will be on Sunday. Will the Beermen get eliminated on Sunday or they will extend the series. I'll go with Ginebra on Game 3, and I might put a bet on them depending on the odds.

In game 1 the odds for Ginebra and Magnolia is almost even, game2 the Kings were the slight underdog and with them losing game 2 I think the odds in game 3 will be attractive if you are backing Ginebra.

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December 16, 2022, 11:37:37 PM
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Dragon might sweep SMB or maybe SMB may comeback and try to force the series to another game.

I do think that the Beermen can force and extend another series on Sunday but to expect them to win the series is something really tough.

SMB shows their real strength in Game 1 but still, they lose, and with that, the Dragons realized what needs to be done in Game 2. They were able to limit the offense of those SMB sharpshooters and just try to keep it that way the whole game.

It would be a good achievement and big recognition to the entire PBA community if SMB will still be able to pass the Dragons here in Semis.

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