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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
Total Voters: 33

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January 12, 2024, 10:02:56 AM
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We have two games tonight, top tiers team against low tiers team. Junemar Fajardo is expected to suit up for the Beermen tonight so i think the Beermen will cruise past the Blackwater Bossings easily.

SMB Beermen -12.5 @1.84 vs Blackwater

Oops, I missed it. Juding by the score now, it seems like it's a close game as Blackwater is currently leading, but it's still too early though, for sure the 2nd half woould be a different story.

Not for long, because as the first half as ended, SMB already took a 12 points lead. This bet of bisdak40 looks a sure win already. SMB just need to win by 1 point on the 2nd half which they can for sure,  so hold strong their bro, you sure gonna get this win on the first game today.

By the way, JMF is back, however he scored only 3 points. Maybe he is not 100% yet. Their top scorer now is their import with 26 points, I think he'll get another 50 point game after this game.

And we are back to a close game, with less than 6 minutes left, SMB is only up by 1 point. This is insane, we thought this game is over and SMB would already win by a huge margin, but look what is happening now, did PBA do some magic again?

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January 12, 2024, 02:39:38 PM
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I think most of us losses tonight.

Both heavy underdog losses but cover the handicap. The first game, I thought SMB will get the spread covered since they are in control at the first half, but I could not believe that Blackwater came back and at some point make it even a close game, it's just weird, maybe because I'm a bit bias. LOL

While on the 2nd game, I took a chance to bet on Meralco thinking this time around it will be the heavy favorite that will dominate the entire game. unfortunately, things doesn't went as expected, DYIP were competitive early and they even took the lead, it's just only in the 4th quarter where Meralco able to find their shots, and although they won the game, but they still fall short. just a bad night for me as I took a -14.5 spread on the last minute, thinking it's a sure win!, LOL>> Sure win? Cheesy
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January 12, 2024, 05:31:56 PM
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Dwight Howard has expressed his interest on joining PBA any time soon as long as the height limit will be modified that allows him to eligible to play. This is actually a good opportunity for the PBA to take the fans interest back and will surely watch the games not just online but live. He also said that Andray is also interested to play on any team. I'm sure that the commissioner and all of the big bosses are considering this. In no doubt that the Converge management has said that it's possible that they may take Dwight on their wing as they're connected to the Strong Group. But I don't think that the PBA management will make it easy as Al is more powerful than them but I hope that this actually happens.
It's not going to be a problem for SMC and MVP they've got the money,  and if they see another opportunity if bringing nba stars may bring more ticket attendance then why not,  they can also pay decent star to play for them, it's not going to be tough 😉  though I think it will be a difficult decision for the league of governors and commissioner, there's always pressure behind but it would be wonderful and enjoyable if pba will consider this.
There really is no problem with money for most of the teams but I think that it's going to be harder if the team that's rumored to take these NBA superstars are teams like Converge. They're not an MVP and SMC team and that's why these PBA management and superior governors/commissioners will have to consider if they'll allow some changes and adjustments for them to gather back the interest of the PBA filipino fans. Dwight is vocal on it and willing to commit to the league and I think that any team will offer him some contract, they can avail him. That's a big help to the league itself and for our country too to attract more NBA superstars that are no longer playing there.

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January 13, 2024, 04:17:41 AM
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I think most of us losses tonight.

Both heavy underdog losses but cover the handicap. The first game, I thought SMB will get the spread covered since they are in control at the first half, but I could not believe that Blackwater came back and at some point make it even a close game, it's just weird, maybe because I'm a bit bias. LOL

That's another loss for me  Sad as i thought that SMB would pierce through the guts of Blackwater's defense especially since their main man is back but I was wrong.

Will change the strategy for today's game and just follow the trend of the underdogs not winning but the favorites won't cover the spread.

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January 13, 2024, 05:24:31 AM
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Dwight Howard has expressed his interest on joining PBA any time soon as long as the height limit will be modified that allows him to eligible to play. This is actually a good opportunity for the PBA to take the fans interest back and will surely watch the games not just online but live. He also said that Andray is also interested to play on any team. I'm sure that the commissioner and all of the big bosses are considering this. In no doubt that the Converge management has said that it's possible that they may take Dwight on their wing as they're connected to the Strong Group. But I don't think that the PBA management will make it easy as Al is more powerful than them but I hope that this actually happens.
It's not going to be a problem for SMC and MVP they've got the money,  and if they see another opportunity if bringing nba stars may bring more ticket attendance then why not,  they can also pay decent star to play for them, it's not going to be tough 😉  though I think it will be a difficult decision for the league of governors and commissioner, there's always pressure behind but it would be wonderful and enjoyable if pba will consider this.
There really is no problem with money for most of the teams but I think that it's going to be harder if the team that's rumored to take these NBA superstars are teams like Converge. They're not an MVP and SMC team and that's why these PBA management and superior governors/commissioners will have to consider if they'll allow some changes and adjustments for them to gather back the interest of the PBA filipino fans. Dwight is vocal on it and willing to commit to the league and I think that any team will offer him some contract, they can avail him. That's a big help to the league itself and for our country too to attract more NBA superstars that are no longer playing there.

For sure if Converge will able to sign him and win a title that's going to be a good hype for PBA, while we are waiting for possibility and how PBA will adjust to this kind of call from the fans, allowing it will give some competition in a short time since knowing both SMC and MVP's capabilities in easily and quickly adjusting to hire imports who got that same quality as Howard, and if ever that things really happened pretty sure Howard will have another excuse if he failed to win another title..

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January 13, 2024, 09:06:37 AM
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There really is no problem with money for most of the teams but I think that it's going to be harder if the team that's rumored to take these NBA superstars are teams like Converge. They're not an MVP and SMC team and that's why these PBA management and superior governors/commissioners will have to consider if they'll allow some changes and adjustments for them to gather back the interest of the PBA filipino fans. Dwight is vocal on it and willing to commit to the league and I think that any team will offer him some contract, they can avail him. That's a big help to the league itself and for our country too to attract more NBA superstars that are no longer playing there.

For sure if Converge will able to sign him and win a title that's going to be a good hype for PBA, while we are waiting for possibility and how PBA will adjust to this kind of call from the fans, allowing it will give some competition in a short time since knowing both SMC and MVP's capabilities in easily and quickly adjusting to hire imports who got that same quality as Howard, and if ever that things really happened pretty sure Howard will have another excuse if he failed to win another title..
The PBA needs some boost with the fans going to the crowd and watching the games live again. This is for sure going to boost players confidence as well that many former NBA players that were top notch and legends want to play for the league. Converge can sign him but the thing is if the bosses are going to modify the height limit. Blatch expressed his frustration with that rule, we just want to see another team go in the finals and not always the San Mig, Ginebra, TNT finals. They have the money and that's really going to help the league itself and attract more people to be fans again.

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January 13, 2024, 09:37:32 AM
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There really is no problem with money for most of the teams but I think that it's going to be harder if the team that's rumored to take these NBA superstars are teams like Converge. They're not an MVP and SMC team and that's why these PBA management and superior governors/commissioners will have to consider if they'll allow some changes and adjustments for them to gather back the interest of the PBA filipino fans. Dwight is vocal on it and willing to commit to the league and I think that any team will offer him some contract, they can avail him. That's a big help to the league itself and for our country too to attract more NBA superstars that are no longer playing there.

For sure if Converge will able to sign him and win a title that's going to be a good hype for PBA, while we are waiting for possibility and how PBA will adjust to this kind of call from the fans, allowing it will give some competition in a short time since knowing both SMC and MVP's capabilities in easily and quickly adjusting to hire imports who got that same quality as Howard, and if ever that things really happened pretty sure Howard will have another excuse if he failed to win another title..
The PBA needs some boost with the fans going to the crowd and watching the games live again. This is for sure going to boost players confidence as well that many former NBA players that were top notch and legends want to play for the league. Converge can sign him but the thing is if the bosses are going to modify the height limit. Blatch expressed his frustration with that rule, we just want to see another team go in the finals and not always the San Mig, Ginebra, TNT finals. They have the money and that's really going to help the league itself and attract more people to be fans again.

Yes, and knowing pinoy fans they always love to see competition and not just known teams that will continue to dominate the league,  I mean not just SMC and MVP that always facing the finals, with former NBA stars who can really helps in improving the team that they'll going to play, that's really something that will bring big boost for the league, just a matter of time when  commissioner will announce their stand in this proposals.

Still the league of governors decision to make and how they will create rules regarding to this matter. Hoping for the best for PBA!

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January 13, 2024, 10:16:21 AM
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For sure if Converge will able to sign him and win a title that's going to be a good hype for PBA, while we are waiting for possibility and how PBA will adjust to this kind of call from the fans, allowing it will give some competition in a short time since knowing both SMC and MVP's capabilities in easily and quickly adjusting to hire imports who got that same quality as Howard, and if ever that things really happened pretty sure Howard will have another excuse if he failed to win another title..

I don't think it will happen, Converge maybe a rich team but their action releasing their high paid players does not make sense at all. If they can't afford to play our locals, how can they afford to get an import as good as Howard, I think the latter is a bit pricey as an import.

IMO, if he gets a chance to play in the PBA, he'll likely land only to either SMB or MVP team.

It could be a significant investment for the team that would sign him, but overall, it will be a big help for the league to boost its popularity, which I think they badly needed it since things aren't going the way they are expecting anymore.
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January 13, 2024, 11:06:19 AM
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The PBA needs some boost with the fans going to the crowd and watching the games live again. This is for sure going to boost players confidence as well that many former NBA players that were top notch and legends want to play for the league. Converge can sign him but the thing is if the bosses are going to modify the height limit. Blatch expressed his frustration with that rule, we just want to see another team go in the finals and not always the San Mig, Ginebra, TNT finals. They have the money and that's really going to help the league itself and attract more people to be fans again.
Yes, and knowing pinoy fans they always love to see competition and not just known teams that will continue to dominate the league,  I mean not just SMC and MVP that always facing the finals, with former NBA stars who can really helps in improving the team that they'll going to play, that's really something that will bring big boost for the league, just a matter of time when  commissioner will announce their stand in this proposals.

Still the league of governors decision to make and how they will create rules regarding to this matter. Hoping for the best for PBA!
They can take the example of how did Dwight Howard brought a lot of active fans on the ring for the first time he'd played in Taiwan. It was jampacked, fully packed with fans and can we imagine how it is going to be if the first ever match of him will be on the Araneta, Cuneta(it's small), MOA arena or even in the Philippine Arena. I am sure that a lot of fans all over from the Philippines are going to buy that ticket and will cheer for that team. Anyway, this is still related to PBA and with some updates from the SBP about our national team Gilas, there is going to be a new official coach. Who's your guess, will it be Tim Cone, CTB, Norman Black, Ayo, who else?

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January 13, 2024, 11:22:51 AM
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. Anyway, this is still related to PBA and with some updates from the SBP about our national team Gilas, there is going to be a new official coach. Who's your guess, will it be Tim Cone, CTB, Norman Black, Ayo, who else?

New coach? Why? This is insane, Tim Cone coach our national team and brought us gold, why can't they make him as our regular coach? I say, there's no other coach that could deliver success to our country with our national team, it's only Tim Cone and not on the choices of coaches you mentioned. This is an international game, we saw how Tim Cone did beating China and RHJ's team in the Finals.

If they were able to retain coach Reyes that is full of criticism, why would they replace a coach (Tim Cone) that is full of praise for the success he brought?

I don't understand anymore if this news you brought up is true.

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January 13, 2024, 11:31:06 AM
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. Anyway, this is still related to PBA and with some updates from the SBP about our national team Gilas, there is going to be a new official coach. Who's your guess, will it be Tim Cone, CTB, Norman Black, Ayo, who else?

New coach? Why? This is insane, Tim Cone coach our national team and brought us gold, why can't they make him as our regular coach? I say, there's no other coach that could deliver success to our country with our national team, it's only Tim Cone and not on the choices of coaches you mentioned. This is an international game, we saw how Tim Cone did beating China and RHJ's team in the Finals.

If they were able to retain coach Reyes that is full of criticism, why would they replace a coach (Tim Cone) that is full of praise for the success he brought?

I don't understand anymore if this news you brought up is true.

This is the news that is related to that. SBP to name permanent Gilas coach, new pool of players 'very soon'

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Whether it’s Tim Cone, Norman Black, Tab Baldwin or somebody else, the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas (SBP) bared that it will make the announcement on the appointment of a permanent Gilas coach 'very soon.'

They didn't say it's a new coach, but they will be naming the permanent coach of the team, which obviously we already know it's Tim Cone. They just want to make it formal I guess, but if in case Tim Cone is not selected, that closest one that is deserving to coach our national team IMO is Tab Baldwin.
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January 13, 2024, 01:05:41 PM
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. Anyway, this is still related to PBA and with some updates from the SBP about our national team Gilas, there is going to be a new official coach. Who's your guess, will it be Tim Cone, CTB, Norman Black, Ayo, who else?

New coach? Why? This is insane, Tim Cone coach our national team and brought us gold, why can't they make him as our regular coach? I say, there's no other coach that could deliver success to our country with our national team, it's only Tim Cone and not on the choices of coaches you mentioned. This is an international game, we saw how Tim Cone did beating China and RHJ's team in the Finals.
Tim Cone was just temporary by that time when he's in for the Asiad. I think that by this time, there's already a coach and they just have to announce it but I don't know when they're going to announce it. IMO, Tim Cone was actually good and he's got a different spirit than of Chot who keeps on gathering learning experiences.

If they were able to retain coach Reyes that is full of criticism, why would they replace a coach (Tim Cone) that is full of praise for the success he brought?
They have given him the chance but Chot didn't deliver well and didn't listen to the fans. Whilst this time, one factor that the SBP rep said is that the next coach that the Gilas will have is the one who listens to the fans and everything for the sake and good of the team and country.

I don't understand anymore if this news you brought up is true.
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/sbp-to-name-permanent-gilas-coach-players-pool-erika-dy-a800-20240113)
That article was published 7 hours ago.

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January 13, 2024, 01:09:27 PM
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NLEX almost upset the Ginebra tonight during their out of town game.

It was a 4 point win by the Gin Kings, and courtesy to Pringle who resurrected in the 4th quarter to help his team with this good win.
Oveall, it was entertaining game as NLEX were able to play good basketba in the 1st to 3rd quarter, but the 4th q all belong to the Ginebra who outscored the NLEX 26-17.  On the bettors side, this is a big win for NLEX since the handicap was +7.5, and I'm happy to announce that I won. Smiley

Tomorrow, we have 2 games, and I find it interesting.

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January 13, 2024, 01:24:17 PM
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. Anyway, this is still related to PBA and with some updates from the SBP about our national team Gilas, there is going to be a new official coach. Who's your guess, will it be Tim Cone, CTB, Norman Black, Ayo, who else?

New coach? Why? This is insane, Tim Cone coach our national team and brought us gold, why can't they make him as our regular coach? I say, there's no other coach that could deliver success to our country with our national team, it's only Tim Cone and not on the choices of coaches you mentioned. This is an international game, we saw how Tim Cone did beating China and RHJ's team in the Finals.
Tim Cone was just temporary by that time when he's in for the Asiad. I think that by this time, there's already a coach and they just have to announce it but I don't know when they're going to announce it. IMO, Tim Cone was actually good and he's got a different spirit than of Chot who keeps on gathering learning experiences.

I see, so  we will know soon if Tim Cone would really be the permanent coach of the team. Good thing Chot Reyes was not in the list, LOL. This guy destroyed our team and coach Tim Cone were able to fix that in just a short span of time, that's how extraordinary he is.



If they were able to retain coach Reyes that is full of criticism, why would they replace a coach (Tim Cone) that is full of praise for the success he brought?
They have given him the chance but Chot didn't deliver well and didn't listen to the fans. Whilst this time, one factor that the SBP rep said is that the next coach that the Gilas will have is the one who listens to the fans and everything for the sake and good of the team and country.
If the fans were not complaining, I doubt SBP will replace coach Chot. We might hear the endless "learning experience" every time we lose.
Fans got tired, they want a new one and good thing Tim Cone accept the challenge.


Thanks, I read it already. Fresh news but we know the news on their next update already, as it will be Tim Cone that will head the team.

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January 13, 2024, 10:21:31 PM
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Tim Cone was just temporary by that time when he's in for the Asiad. I think that by this time, there's already a coach and they just have to announce it but I don't know when they're going to announce it. IMO, Tim Cone was actually good and he's got a different spirit than of Chot who keeps on gathering learning experiences.
I see, so  we will know soon if Tim Cone would really be the permanent coach of the team. Good thing Chot Reyes was not in the list, LOL. This guy destroyed our team and coach Tim Cone were able to fix that in just a short span of time, that's how extraordinary he is.
Yes, it's actually nicer if Tim Cone will be put there as permanent but it's still going to depend on their decision. But one good thing about him is that his coaching and he's got already the chemistry with the team even for just a less period of time.

If the fans were not complaining, I doubt SBP will replace coach Chot. We might hear the endless "learning experience" every time we lose.
Fans got tired, they want a new one and good thing Tim Cone accept the challenge.
That's true, they're being thrown by the entire basketball nation and yet they didn't stepped up and didn't do anything during that time. We're already tired of learning and we've learned already and that's why we want to see not just some wins but victories.

Thanks, I read it already. Fresh news but we know the news on their next update already, as it will be Tim Cone that will head the team.
No prob mate. I'll still wait for the official announcement.

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January 14, 2024, 12:57:04 AM
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NLEX almost upset the Ginebra tonight during their out of town game.

It was a 4 point win by the Gin Kings, and courtesy to Pringle who resurrected in the 4th quarter to help his team with this good win.
Oveall, it was entertaining game as NLEX were able to play good basketba in the 1st to 3rd quarter, but the 4th q all belong to the Ginebra who outscored the NLEX 26-17.  On the bettors side, this is a big win for NLEX since the handicap was +7.5, and I'm happy to announce that I won. Smiley
That was a bit thrilling game, Gin Kings won the game but failed to cover the spread. I think NLEX just did the right thing, unfortunately, they aren't as compose as the Gin Kings because usually, Ginebra wins the fourth quarter. Now, Ginebra already has a twice to beat advantage.

Playoffs is coming soon, so let's keep betting.


Tomorrow, we have 2 games, and I find it interesting.

3:00 PM Converge vs ROS
6:30 PM TNT vs Phoenix.

I think I'm gonna stick with the ROS, they are playing well and they have a good standing that could make them qualify in the quarter Finals.
On the 2nd game, I'm gonna be betting on the underdog which I'm sure it will be the Phoenix, betting on the handicap here.

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January 14, 2024, 07:27:00 AM
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I think I'm gonna stick with the ROS, they are playing well and they have a good standing that could make them qualify in the quarter Finals.
On the 2nd game, I'm gonna be betting on the underdog which I'm sure it will be the Phoenix, betting on the handicap here.

This is a non bearing game I guess as a win here by ROS will not give them a twice to beat advantage. So with that, I have the Converge here who are still looking for another win after this losing streak, they only 1 win this season, at least make it 2 before it closes. Thus far, nothing extraordinary is happening, it's still a close contest in the 1st quarter.



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January 14, 2024, 09:58:01 AM
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I think I'm gonna stick with the ROS, they are playing well and they have a good standing that could make them qualify in the quarter Finals.
On the 2nd game, I'm gonna be betting on the underdog which I'm sure it will be the Phoenix, betting on the handicap here.

This is a non bearing game I guess as a win here by ROS will not give them a twice to beat advantage. So with that, I have the Converge here who are still looking for another win after this losing streak, they only 1 win this season, at least make it 2 before it closes. Thus far, nothing extraordinary is happening, it's still a close contest in the 1st quarter.

You almost got the "W". Smiley

The ROS team choked in the 4th quarter, despite having a comfortable lead to cover the -6.5 spread. They played recklessly, allowing multiple three-point shots from Converge. Fortunately, the last shot didn't go in due to a turnover, avoiding a potential upset. I'm sorry about your bet; perhaps taking the handicap would have been a safer choice. Nevertheless, Great job to your courage in making the bet.

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January 14, 2024, 12:36:13 PM
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I think I'm gonna stick with the ROS, they are playing well and they have a good standing that could make them qualify in the quarter Finals.
On the 2nd game, I'm gonna be betting on the underdog which I'm sure it will be the Phoenix, betting on the handicap here.

This is a non bearing game I guess as a win here by ROS will not give them a twice to beat advantage. So with that, I have the Converge here who are still looking for another win after this losing streak, they only 1 win this season, at least make it 2 before it closes. Thus far, nothing extraordinary is happening, it's still a close contest in the 1st quarter.

You almost got the "W". Smiley

The ROS team choked in the 4th quarter, despite having a comfortable lead to cover the -6.5 spread. They played recklessly, allowing multiple three-point shots from Converge. Fortunately, the last shot didn't go in due to a turnover, avoiding a potential upset. I'm sorry about your bet; perhaps taking the handicap would have been a safer choice. Nevertheless, Great job to your courage in making the bet.

Did not manage to watch the game but things like this is no longer new to this league, thinking that you are safe to go as the lead in the last few minutes of the game is almost decent enough to almost conclude your handicap but things suddenly change when the dominating team allows the opposing team to rally back and keep on scoring.

Like what you said, handicap for the underdog is currently the trend here, that pattern might be on the radar of most bettors.

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January 14, 2024, 01:06:15 PM
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TNT won tonight, and they are now qualified in the quarter finals.

RHJ their import is leading the team with 35 points with his very high shooting percentage with 17-23. It looks so easy on him, I think he is better than his brother has he had a smooth release and he doesn't force things trying to drive the ball even if the defense is waiting inside.

And Pogoy was back in this game, played 20 minutes and contributed 11 points, not bad. I think this team is ready for the QF, they are on a twice to beat disadvantage but we can never tell. On their first game vs Magnolia, I'm sure I'm betting with the TNT.

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