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January 28, 2020, 02:17:16 PM
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But first, we should focus on the Copa del Rey game this week against Zaragoza. I bet Zizou's gonna rest a lot of players.

If I were Real Madrid coach, I won't take that risk. We have already seen lots of upsets in Copa Del Rey and Real Madrid won't risk another. But the problem is they have to play against Atletico Madrid just 3 days later. Now this is real test for Real Madrid players, they have to advance to quarter finals of Copa and also try to retain first spot in league against tough opponent.

I think both matches will have same Real Madrid squad except 2-3 changes max.

Maintaining the lead at the league should be given more priority tho.  IMHO.  Zidane has to.  I got 10k USD riding on Real getting more points than Barca at the league.  Lolol.  Grin

Fucking hell tokeweed, $10,000 bet? You like to live dangerously don’t you Grin
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January 28, 2020, 02:17:32 PM
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Copa del Rey tonight: Tenerife vs Bilbao...Away win @1.82 odds! (at the time of writing). Hmm, it should be an easy game for Bilbao, Tenerife are doing pretty bad in the 2nd division so, i'm not sure why such odds...Maybe Bilbao will field the kids from the youth academy? lol  Grin

I think both matches will have same Real Madrid squad except 2-3 changes max.
With the depth squad we have, it would be too risky to do that. Tbh, I just want Casemiro to get some rest, if he plays both games (which wouldn't surprising since he's one of our key players), then i'm afraid the guy won't be fully fit for the last few weeks of the season.

I got 10k USD riding on Real getting more points than Barca at the league.  Lolol.  Grin
Uhmm, what? Well, hopefully, my Real Madrid won't dissapoint you but still...10k? What?? EDIT* just saw your post above.

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January 28, 2020, 03:29:31 PM
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Yeah reality is if you focus too much on the cup, you may even get an injury on a game even if it is an easy one. Cup is very important for many teams but at the same time, who cares if Madrid loses at this round? Why would it matter for Real Madrid to be not in the cup for a whole year? Nobody would care if they are not the winners because they are not really that important like the rest of the competitions.

League is very very important for them, they started not so well this year and everyone assumed as soon as Ronaldo left they will be horrible and for a while it looked like they were right, Ronaldo was a great player and still is and missing him looked like it would literally set them back for a long time. If they win the league, they will shut all the haters up for sure.

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January 28, 2020, 05:18:10 PM
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But first, we should focus on the Copa del Rey game this week against Zaragoza. I bet Zizou's gonna rest a lot of players.

If I were Real Madrid coach, I won't take that risk. We have already seen lots of upsets in Copa Del Rey and Real Madrid won't risk another. But the problem is they have to play against Atletico Madrid just 3 days later. Now this is real test for Real Madrid players, they have to advance to quarter finals of Copa and also try to retain first spot in league against tough opponent.

I think both matches will have same Real Madrid squad except 2-3 changes max.

Maintaining the lead at the league should be given more priority tho.  IMHO.  Zidane has to.  I got 10k USD riding on Real getting more points than Barca at the league.  Lolol.  Grin
Damn this is very one hell of a bet in my opinion and the stakes are very high. Barcelona are really not playing their best and I believe tokeweed has a very great opportunity to win this supposed bet. Never will i bet such a huge amount of money like this, my heart will not be able to handle it.
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January 28, 2020, 07:05:58 PM
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I don't want Barcelona to be far behind Real Madrid, Barca still put forward its main players even though Suarez is injured, still Barca's game can still be overcome.

Don't worry because it seems that destiny is in favor of barcelona:

Barcelona - Levante ( 02/02/2020 )

Barcelona - Betis ( 09/02/2020 )

It will be two very easy games that Barcelona will win  Grin


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January 29, 2020, 01:20:22 PM
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^  Careful now...  These 'easy games' are where big clubs make fatal mistakes.  Look at Man City at the EPL.  And Barca isn't exactly invincible this season too.  They've had their share of unexpected losses with the reverse fixture vs Levante being one of them.

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January 29, 2020, 01:24:57 PM
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I don't want Barcelona to be far behind Real Madrid, Barca still put forward its main players even though Suarez is injured, still Barca's game can still be overcome.

Don't worry because it seems that destiny is in favor of barcelona:

Barcelona - Levante ( 02/02/2020 )

Barcelona - Betis ( 09/02/2020 )

It will be two very easy games that Barcelona will win  Grin



Believe me. I have seen Barca at Mestalla last week. Nothing's safe with this team at this moment. You can expect practically anything from the club that has been in a crisis and now is in the process of rebuilding and returning good vibes. It's still a long way from home for Barcelona.
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January 29, 2020, 02:12:47 PM
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I don't want Barcelona to be far behind Real Madrid, Barca still put forward its main players even though Suarez is injured, still Barca's game can still be overcome.

Don't worry because it seems that destiny is in favor of barcelona:

Barcelona - Levante ( 02/02/2020 )

Barcelona - Betis ( 09/02/2020 )

It will be two very easy games that Barcelona will win  Grin



It is also true that Barcelona will face a weak team in the next 2 weeks while Real Madrid will face Atletico Madrid this week, as there is still a chance for Barcelona to return to the top as if Real Madrid lost in this derby match.

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January 29, 2020, 10:55:48 PM
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-snip- It will be two very easy games that Barcelona will win  Grin
Don't be overconfident! Although those are weak teams, it doesn't guarantee at all. You know, Barca is in under pressure and they're probably too eager to win. This sometimes may lead to a draw or loss result if they cannot control their selves well.

-snip- as there is still a chance for Barcelona to return to the top as if Real Madrid lost in this derby match.
Yes, Barca has a chance to come back at the top if Real Madrid loses. But, if we look at the performance of the two clubs in the last few matches, I think Real Madrid should have a higher chance to win.  Grin


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January 29, 2020, 11:37:09 PM
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-snip- It will be two very easy games that Barcelona will win  Grin
Don't be overconfident! Although those are weak teams, it doesn't guarantee at all. You know, Barca is in under pressure and they're probably too eager to win. This sometimes may lead to a draw or loss result if they cannot control their selves well.

-snip- as there is still a chance for Barcelona to return to the top as if Real Madrid lost in this derby match.
Yes, Barca has a chance to come back at the top if Real Madrid loses. But, if we look at the performance of the two clubs in the last few matches, I think Real Madrid should have a higher chance to win.  Grin
Right now Real Madrid is on the top table although three points from Barcelona, looking few weeks later will defeat with Champion league where many clubs have save their player, most terrible moment will start when Champion league knock out starting.
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January 29, 2020, 11:59:18 PM
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Don't worry because it seems that destiny is in favor of barcelona:

Barcelona - Levante ( 02/02/2020 )

Barcelona - Betis ( 09/02/2020 )

It will be two very easy games that Barcelona will win  Grin
Not with this current Barcelona team, you can never be so sure  Grin
I smell a draw in one of the games. I remember someone emphasizing here the other week that the Valencia game was a walk over for Barcelona since Valencia was out of form and had heavily lost to bottom side Mallorca... I guess we all know what happened.

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I don't want Barcelona to be far behind Real Madrid, Barca still put forward its main players even though Suarez is injured, still Barca's game can still be overcome.

Don't worry because it seems that destiny is in favor of barcelona:

Barcelona - Levante ( 02/02/2020 )

Barcelona - Betis ( 09/02/2020 )

It will be two very easy games that Barcelona will win  Grin



Believe me. I have seen Barca at Mestalla last week. Nothing's safe with this team at this moment. You can expect practically anything from the club that has been in a crisis and now is in the process of rebuilding and returning good vibes. It's still a long way from home for Barcelona.

I think that it was very wrong to sack Valverde.
The problem was not the manager but the fact that the team has become kind of old. (Pretty similar to Real Madrid, during the last seasons). They need to bring young talents and build the team on them, not keep relying on Messi and Suarez.
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January 30, 2020, 12:01:39 PM
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^  Careful now...  These 'easy games' are where big clubs make fatal mistakes.  Look at Man City at the EPL.  And Barca isn't exactly invincible this season too.  They've had their share of unexpected losses with the reverse fixture vs Levante being one of them.

I don’t know what’s wrong with Barca this season, they’re not at the sort of level you become accustomed to seeing them at. A few of their main players are past their peak so maybe it’s that. They need a big rebuild.

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^  Careful now...  These 'easy games' are where big clubs make fatal mistakes.  Look at Man City at the EPL.  And Barca isn't exactly invincible this season too.  They've had their share of unexpected losses with the reverse fixture vs Levante being one of them.

I don’t know what’s wrong with Barca this season, they’re not at the sort of level you become accustomed to seeing them at. A few of their main players are past their peak so maybe it’s that. They need a big rebuild.

But we can't deny the fact that they haven't lost a single game at home since 13th November 2018, yes, 14 months unbeaten at home! So maybe the problem is not in team or coach but the mentality of players only. Maybe some kind of phobia have developed when they play outside Camp Nou. Or maybe they have bad away tactics like only attack on counters if not playing at Camp Nou. Or maybe Barca players desperately need fans shouting in support. It can be anything but problem is turning serious.

They have to strictly start following same tactical play both at home and away matches. Also Setien has to develop some gameplan to convert possession into chances. Passing balls hundred times in triangle at half way line doesn't win match, midfielders have to pass balls through defensive line so that front 3 can finish. Also, Griezmann needs to adapt to team as soon as possible. It almost become unbearable to see him standing clueless in off-side position when Messi building attacks. 
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^  Careful now...  These 'easy games' are where big clubs make fatal mistakes.  Look at Man City at the EPL.  And Barca isn't exactly invincible this season too.  They've had their share of unexpected losses with the reverse fixture vs Levante being one of them.

I don’t know what’s wrong with Barca this season, they’re not at the sort of level you become accustomed to seeing them at. A few of their main players are past their peak so maybe it’s that. They need a big rebuild.

But we can't deny the fact that they haven't lost a single game at home since 13th November 2018, yes, 14 months unbeaten at home! So maybe the problem is not in team or coach but the mentality of players only. Maybe some kind of phobia have developed when they play outside Camp Nou. Or maybe they have bad away tactics like only attack on counters if not playing at Camp Nou. Or maybe Barca players desperately need fans shouting in support. It can be anything but problem is turning serious.

They have to strictly start following same tactical play both at home and away matches. Also Setien has to develop some gameplan to convert possession into chances. Passing balls hundred times in triangle at half way line doesn't win match, midfielders have to pass balls through defensive line so that front 3 can finish. Also, Griezmann needs to adapt to team as soon as possible. It almost become unbearable to see him standing clueless in off-side position when Messi building attacks. 

There’s no doubt that Barcelona have a strong record while playing at home but in recent times they have not been performing well, and I would blame their ex coach Valverde for this as his tactics have ruined the winning mentality that Barcelona once possessed. It’s pertinent to note that Seiten will take a long time to rebuild the players mentality, as it’s not easy to take over a team in the mid season and then suddenly turn them into champions again.
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January 31, 2020, 08:15:30 AM
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Barcelona got another win on home but again their play style didn't surprise me.
I expected more goals from them and it is obvious that if Messi is missing from the line up, then the team finds a lot of difficulties even when playing with weaker team such as Osasuna or Leganes.
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January 31, 2020, 08:18:43 AM
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I don't want Barcelona to be far behind Real Madrid, Barca still put forward its main players even though Suarez is injured, still Barca's game can still be overcome.

Don't worry because it seems that destiny is in favor of barcelona:

Barcelona - Levante ( 02/02/2020 )

Barcelona - Betis ( 09/02/2020 )

It will be two very easy games that Barcelona will win  Grin



Believe me. I have seen Barca at Mestalla last week. Nothing's safe with this team at this moment. You can expect practically anything from the club that has been in a crisis and now is in the process of rebuilding and returning good vibes. It's still a long way from home for Barcelona.

I think that it was very wrong to sack Valverde.
The problem was not the manager but the fact that the team has become kind of old. (Pretty similar to Real Madrid, during the last seasons). They need to bring young talents and build the team on them, not keep relying on Messi and Suarez.

The thing is nobody accepts that the squad is ageing and instead everyone prefers to blame ex coach valverde whenever Barcelona loses.

I think the squad will indeed perform against low blockers, the challenge though is when they face high pressers or squads that demands the ball conservatively like Valencia did to them

A good win and a morale lifting performance I will say
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January 31, 2020, 08:23:40 AM
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Barcelona got another win on home but again their play style didn't surprise me.
I expected more goals from them and it is obvious that if Messi is missing from the line up, then the team finds a lot of difficulties even when playing with weaker team such as Osasuna or Leganes.

That can happen for other reasons as well and not only because Messi is not playing.Barcelona don’t have to scratch to full power against lower and weaker teams.They conserve power for bigger events and are happy with the win even if it is a narrow win.

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January 31, 2020, 08:44:11 AM
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Barcelona got another win on home but again their play style didn't surprise me.
I expected more goals from them and it is obvious that if Messi is missing from the line up, then the team finds a lot of difficulties even when playing with weaker team such as Osasuna or Leganes.

That can happen for other reasons as well and not only because Messi is not playing.Barcelona don’t have to scratch to full power against lower and weaker teams.They conserve power for bigger events and are happy with the win even if it is a narrow win.

Naida Messi DID play. Should not pay attention to what Naida says, he never responds to messages and always posts a bit weirdly.

And I have no idea what you guys are on about. Messi played. Scored twice and one assist, and Barca had a huge and easy win. They weren't conserving an power at all. Were we watching the same game even?

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January 31, 2020, 09:04:32 AM
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Barcelona got another win on home but again their play style didn't surprise me.
I expected more goals from them and it is obvious that if Messi is missing from the line up, then the team finds a lot of difficulties even when playing with weaker team such as Osasuna or Leganes.

That can happen for other reasons as well and not only because Messi is not playing.Barcelona don’t have to scratch to full power against lower and weaker teams.They conserve power for bigger events and are happy with the win even if it is a narrow win.

Naida Messi DID play. Should not pay attention to what Naida says, he never responds to messages and always posts a bit weirdly.

And I have no idea what you guys are on about. Messi played. Scored twice and one assist, and Barca had a huge and easy win. They weren't conserving an power at all. Were we watching the same game even?

We are talking in theory,if Messi misses a game was saying Naida and I replied to him on the suppose that Messi was not to play.

We are used to see Barcelona score more than that against weaker teams,at least I am so maybe we have different point of views regarding the analyze of the game.

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