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September 30, 2014, 12:03:08 PM
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In Eurasia,BRICS  Wink

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September 30, 2014, 01:09:49 PM
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When the Kremlin blames Georgia for the crimes of Stalin's USSR, then pushes them around, that's also exactly the type of shit that makes them want to join NATO.

i beg you pardon. but when did so called "kremlin" ever blamed georgia for the crimes of Stalin's USSR?
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September 30, 2014, 01:13:21 PM
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When the Kremlin blames Georgia for the crimes of Stalin's USSR, then pushes them around, that's also exactly the type of shit that makes them want to join NATO.

i beg you pardon. but when did so called "kremlin" ever blamed georgia for the crimes of Stalin's USSR?

And when exactly were they "pushed around"?
Over the last couple of years, once Saakashvili was out of the office and NATO backed off a little, Georgian/Russian relations started to normalise. Now NATO is banging on the Georgian door again.

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I'm intrigued by the NATO thrust of your posts. Hmm. NATO is just a convenient excuse for many current events to rectify history, but when it comes down to it, it's not really a big threat (the "pussification" of the WEst, if you may). Europe is becoming a backwater and your tales of doom tend to focus on a backwater. And you had the chutzpah to even warn...  Wink

CLUE: Look at a more complete map & you'll see the European borders are just a SMALL corner of Russia. The bigger part is where the future is...

NATO isn't really a big threat?  Well then, you won't mind when Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan join us.   Cheesy

Of course NATO already has a billion people, millions of troops, thousands of nuclear missiles, and hundreds of submarines, so maybe you should.




LOL, nobody is joining NATO because it is moribund. The WEstern European countries are too hard up to buy modern armaments.And they are not in a position to do so anytime in the future. Moreover, history has changed- the Eurasian countries have more growth and disposable income to influence the future course of civilization.

I was just watching German TV & as if in a coincidence, the host was taunting the NATO, that when trouble breaks up in the Baltic, even Germany is not in a position to respond because only 1 out its 4 submarines was working, only half of its 500 tanks are working, only half of its a couple of hundred planes are working, etc.

I actually believe that Russia is in a position to retake the Baltics now. Just like in the US-initiated ISIS coalition, it is expected no major European country will help to retake them and risk being pulverized by nuclear bombs.

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September 30, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
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The Foxhole: Jacob Heilbrunn on America’s will power for war

Jacob Heilbrunn suared his views on Obama and Putin actions & situation in the Eastern Ukraine. See from 13:20.

I actually believe that Russia is in a position to retake the Baltics now.
Pagan or DarkForces would think so, but it's unlikely because nobody needs a force to retake them. These states are destroying themselves even without any foreign help. More than 1/4 of titular population have been lost during the last two decades while ethnic russian's population is quite stable. Just let their governments to spend another 20-30 years on performing of the same policy and they'll voluntarily join the RF. Just because titular population will become a minority.
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September 30, 2014, 03:25:10 PM
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I actually believe that Russia is in a position to retake the Baltics now.

]Pagan or DarkForces would think so, b


LOL, just a manner of saying. I am really bored by the UKranian trolls we have here- can't they find anybody with some IQ to pitch against us here? It has been a festival of deadbeats from their part- after the humiliating pretensions of the stupid Rasah & the rest of the dumpster kids, they sent this reinforcement Icebreaker who is no better, just as dumb.  He can't stay away from his prepared talking points & pictures or he would crap immediately. Where did they pick up these nitwits and who was their loser boss who thought these clowns could be propagandists? No wonder Ukraine has been virtually a a dilapidated African state throughout all those years, it doesn't have a deep bench. Pity

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September 30, 2014, 03:32:06 PM
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I am really bored by the UKranian trolls we have here- can't they find anybody with some IQ to pitch against us here?
It seems that their employer is unable to buy the sufficient amount of iodized salt for them.

I miss niothor, some of his messages were interesing.
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September 30, 2014, 06:08:28 PM
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September 30, 2014, 06:37:12 PM
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I like it more this way Smiley


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I am really bored by the UKranian trolls we have here- can't they find anybody with some IQ to pitch against us here?
It seems that their employer is unable to buy the sufficient amount of iodized salt for them.

I miss niothor, some of his messages were interesing.


Niothor would be too ashamed to return. Knocked-out by a one-two punch. Before he disappeared, he was destroyed by Deisik then I slapped the reality on him about the vulnerability of the EU because it can be easily crashed by the unpayable $75 trillion debt of the DEutsche Bank. Niothor is just the typical mosquito who just because it landed on an elephant, it presumed it was also an elephant. But what would happen if that elephant was dying because it turned out it was bankrupt? NIothor is like the other Post-Soviet delusionals who thought they got bigger by associating with what they thought were big masters not knowing they had instead clung to bankrupt masters. So when reality stares at them, that they had been duped & had to face the reality they were still small like before, it hits them bad. Niothor loved to talk down from his presumed position of EU high grounds so when he realized he was speaking only from THird World Romania grounds, he was lost.

Granted, Niothor was better than the UKrainians who are really for entertainment, too dumb to be taken seriously .

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September 30, 2014, 11:35:37 PM
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PUTIN is a CRYBABY, it is now confirmed.

I could have suspected it based on his supporters.

Can someone give Putin a breast to nuzzle?

The Ukrainians sure gave him a manhandling.....


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Hmm, it's already October there, right? Autumn?


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Did The Winter War Just Begin? Russian Gas Supplies To Europe Plunge 15%, Ukraine Transit Slashed 54%


 
Just a week ago, the Russian energy minister made the first public 'threat' of gas supply "throttling" disruptions to Europe but judging by the data that has just been released, it appears the 'throttling' has begun. Bloomberg reports that Russian gas supplies to Europe fell 15% year-over-year in Q3 - the most in over two years - as natural gas transit through Ukraine plunged 54% year-over-year. In 2013, Gazprom sent 60% of its supply via Ukraine pipelines, in August that dropped to 39%, and in September only 34%. Of course, Europe remains confident its storage efforts will buffer any "Winter War" disruptions, as we noted here, but as Citi warned previously, "if colder weather arrives, storage levels will be drained," and then there is the Spring (and German industry needs).


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/did-winter-war-just-begin-russian-gas-supplies-europe-plunge-15-ukraine-transit-slas


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October 01, 2014, 03:17:29 AM
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Pooty-poot can use his 'Gas Weapon' all he likes.  Doing so only accelerates development of competing LNG facilities, while breathing new life into the petrodollar.   Cool












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Pooty-poot can use his 'Gas Weapon' all he likes.  Doing so only accelerates development of competing LNG facilities, while breathing new life into the petrodollar.   Cool







LOL!!! Bravo!!! Very high IQ??!!!  Cheesy

Btw, it's obvious the game plan is to use the ISIS drama to force a pipeline to Syria but like so many of the failures in the last decade, that won't pass. Those villains who survived the Iskandar missiles would have frozen to death by then...

Take a test: stay in a freezer -20 then try to build a gas storage tank, see how long you will last... Grin




Hmm, it's already October there, right? Autumn?

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Did The Winter War Just Begin? Russian Gas Supplies To Europe Plunge 15%, Ukraine Transit Slashed 54%


 
Just a week ago, the Russian energy minister made the first public 'threat' of gas supply "throttling" disruptions to Europe but judging by the data that has just been released, it appears the 'throttling' has begun. Bloomberg reports that Russian gas supplies to Europe fell 15% year-over-year in Q3 - the most in over two years - as natural gas transit through Ukraine plunged 54% year-over-year. In 2013, Gazprom sent 60% of its supply via Ukraine pipelines, in August that dropped to 39%, and in September only 34%. Of course, Europe remains confident its storage efforts will buffer any "Winter War" disruptions, as we noted here, but as Citi warned previously, "if colder weather arrives, storage levels will be drained," and then there is the Spring (and German industry needs).


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/did-winter-war-just-begin-russian-gas-supplies-europe-plunge-15-ukraine-transit-slas


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October 01, 2014, 04:08:11 AM
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Stop flooding with OFF TOPIC.
All Russian Federation related talking is OFF TOPIC HERE.


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Pooty-poot can use his 'Gas Weapon' all he likes.  Doing so only accelerates development of competing LNG facilities, while breathing new life into the petrodollar.   Cool




Btw, it's obvious the game plan is to use the ISIS drama to force a pipeline to Syria but like so many of the failures in the last decade, that won't pass. Those villains who survived the Iskandar missiles would have frozen to death by then...

Take a test: stay in a freezer -20 then try to build a gas storage tank, see how long you will last... Grin

Multi-billion dollar LNG terminals mean we don't need to rely on piplines.  Did you see the size of those ships?  They are freaking enormous!

The picture above is in Alaska, where  -20 is considered to be a nice sunny day and a vast pipeline has been running sine the 70s.   Cheesy

The point is that if Gazprom (AKA GASPUTIN) does not wish to sell its products to Europe, Chevron and Exxon are very happy for the increased business.

That, in turn, prolongs the life span of the petrodollar hegemony.  Vlad Putin is in check, with no good moves left on the board.   Cool


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October 01, 2014, 05:04:27 AM
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The point is that if Gazprom (AKA GASPUTIN) does not wish to sell its products to Europe

Give proof to that in a NEW topic about GAS MARKET in EU and related prices FOR DUMMIES.

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Pooty-poot can use his 'Gas Weapon' all he likes.  Doing so only accelerates development of competing LNG facilities, while breathing new life into the petrodollar.   Cool




Btw, it's obvious the game plan is to use the ISIS drama to force a pipeline to Syria but like so many of the failures in the last decade, that won't pass. Those villains who survived the Iskandar missiles would have frozen to death by then...

Take a test: stay in a freezer -20 then try to build a gas storage tank, see how long you will last... Grin

Multi-billion dollar LNG terminals mean we don't need to rely on piplines.  Did you see the size of those ships?  They are freaking enormous!

The picture above is in Alaska, where  -20 is considered to be a nice sunny day and a vast pipeline has been running sine the 70s.   Cheesy

The point is that if Gazprom (AKA GASPUTIN) does not wish to sell its products to Europe, Chevron and Exxon are very happy for the increased business.

That, in turn, prolongs the life span of the petrodollar hegemony.  Vlad Putin is in check, with no good moves left on the board.   Cool


LOL, Still low IQ, dude.

Cutting off the pipeline to Ukraine doesn't mean cutting off the gas to the major  European countries like Germany because the NOrd Stream will still  be open. The pipeline through Ukraine only affects those found south of it like Slovakia, Romania, Bulagaria, Hungary, etc. But then the interconnection from Germany-Czech Republic will ensure supply to HUngary, Slovakia & down south but will leave the villains cold- Ukraine, Poland, Romania.  Cheesy

THe LNG will never work in bankrupt European economies because it is more expensive. The liquefacttion process dissipates 1/4 of the volume so they will lose much of the gas. That doesn't include the expensive infrastructures needed. Handling and distribution costs. More expensive gas, more inconvenience. Take note we are talking of hard-up countries which don't have deep pockets here because of their low growth & high debts. The LNG shift is not a small thing but could crash their highly-leverage economies.

This is just one of the minor moves- the freezing of Ukraine (the Ukie NAZIs will become insane trying to escape the cold & the pitchforks of  the angry people who are freezing to death because of the NAZI stupidity). There are many more moves, btw. It is still a long game but I guess this winter may just end all the delusions of the stupid NAZI putschists.

See, I told you, you still have a low IQ...

 Cheesy

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October 01, 2014, 12:59:49 PM
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Talking about Gazprom... It's funny that some part of shares is owned by the notorious ponzi scammer, Sergey Mavrody. He bought these shares through fake firm in 1990s with investor's money. However, nobody is able to confiscate this property because there is no proven connections between SPM and owner of these shares. Cheesy

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October 01, 2014, 01:30:31 PM
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Kiev's forces are again shelling central areas of Donetsk. In this attack at least eight civilians were killed on spot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ifIcYVgRs

ICTY sentenced one of the leaders of the Serbian rebellion in Croatia to 35 years in prison for similar act (he ordered rocket attack on Croatian capital Zagreb in which 7 citizens died). Does anyone really expect that Ukrainian war criminals will get the same treatment?
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