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December 06, 2014, 10:46:15 PM
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Well, the Russians can rectify that mistake by taking the eastern part

to the Dniepr. It´d be a cakewalk, the Ukrainian military is useless and

NATO is a paper tiger at best.

The problem/strong side with Russia (choose how you want to look at it), is that it still wants to do everything by the international law, that everything is completely legal. So a military invasion is completely out of question, even though Kiev and CIA are dreaming of such outcome.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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December 06, 2014, 10:54:13 PM
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Well, the Russians can rectify that mistake by taking the eastern part

to the Dniepr. It´d be a cakewalk, the Ukrainian military is useless and

NATO is a paper tiger at best.

The problem/strong side with Russia (choose how you want to look at it), is that it still wants to do everything by the international law, that everything is completely legal. So a military invasion is completely out of question, even though Kiev and CIA are dreaming of such outcome.

Legal schmegal, they´re dealing with people who don´t give

a flying eff about international law, only their own interests.

There would be a big initial uproar which would soon fizzle down.


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December 07, 2014, 01:11:34 AM
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It's time for blatant violations of international law... I mean something like that:



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December 07, 2014, 12:17:46 PM
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Infographics of Donbass during the "sieze-fire". The results after half-a-year of the American Terrorist Operation (ATO)
http://ria.ru/infografika/20141013/1027739640.html


Data for the 13th of October:

On Ukraine side: 953 killed + 3627 wounded (according to Ukraine)
27888 killed + 13500 wounded according to the resistance

On resistance side: 2000-3000 killed

UN data:
Civilians killed: 3682 (incl 298 of the shot-down Boeing)
Civilians wounded: 8871
Refugees, who fled to Russia: 427004

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Last edit: December 07, 2014, 07:26:48 PM by Nemo1024
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Well, the Russians can rectify that mistake by taking the eastern part

to the Dniepr. It´d be a cakewalk, the Ukrainian military is useless and

NATO is a paper tiger at best.

The problem/strong side with Russia (choose how you want to look at it), is that it still wants to do everything by the international law, that everything is completely legal. So a military invasion is completely out of question, even though Kiev and CIA are dreaming of such outcome.

Legal schmegal, they´re dealing with people who don´t give
a flying eff about international law, only their own interests.
There would be a big initial uproar which would soon fizzle down.

That would invite anarchy at the international level, where the strongest country can do whatever it likes. That's the kind of world US wants to build and Russia does not want to have any part of it. It's the path to the dark side.

Russia wants to be a part of a world built upon mutual respect of the laws, though military might is needed, it's there so that no one gets any idea of pushing Russia and it's allies around. This is reflected in the Russian military doctrine, which is purely defensive (that is why Mistrals are completely unnecessary, being an offensive weapon). That's the light side of the force. Remember, Jedi are formidable fighters, but their might is guided by strict morals.

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December 07, 2014, 03:47:46 PM
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well said nemo. though mistral can be used for defense purposes quite successfully too.
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December 07, 2014, 04:01:52 PM
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a russians vacation in Ukraine

B дaлeкий Уccypийcк из Дoнбacca пpишли 17 цинкoвыx «пocылoк» c «гpyзoм 200»



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December 07, 2014, 04:04:58 PM
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The death of Pskov paratroopers in Donbass declared as military secret In Russia



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December 07, 2014, 06:45:33 PM
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well said nemo. though mistral can be used for defense purposes quite successfully too.

Yep, well said Nemo.

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December 07, 2014, 10:45:16 PM
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Ukrainian forces again shelled residential areas of Donetsk - 13 times over the course of this day.



The next bit is especially revolting: Ukrainians continue to indoctrinate their children against Russia. In Nokolaev (a city that is predominantly Russian-speaking) one school (First National School) held today a fare, selling sweets, the proceeds of which should go towards financing of the American Terrorist Operation (ATO). The teachers got very inventive with the names of the sweets: Compote "The blood of Russian infants"; cakes "tanks against Moscow"; cookies "Yellow-blue stars on Kremlin"; "Cheesecakes with Moskals"; "Brains of Zhirinovskij", etc.

http://nikolaev-city.net/10659/na-shkolnoy-yarmarke-v-nikolaeve-deti-prodavali-mozgi-zhirinovskogo-syrniki-s-moskalyami-i

The people of Nikolaev are revolted and horrified by this... I don't have words to describe it.

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December 08, 2014, 03:43:28 PM
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The death of Pskov paratroopers in Donbass declared as military secret In Russia



http://crime.in.ua/node/7113

Are you joking ... he was in hollyday spending some good time in casino LoL
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December 08, 2014, 07:43:36 PM
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Belarus regained customs control on the border with Russia - RIP the Russian Customs Union



http://top.rbc.ru/politics/08/12/2014/5485a049cbb20f2027956990#xtor=AL-[internal_traffic]--[rbc.ru]-[main_body]-[item_1

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December 08, 2014, 07:55:33 PM
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Two not very happy looking campers





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Comrade Vice President Joseph Biden announced that the USSA plans to humiliate Russia by turning over more neighboring countries to its control.

Stating that Russia has been left ‘alone’ and ‘naked’ before the world over its annexation of Crimea and potential invasion of Ukraine, Comrade Joe announced that Party Chairman and President Barack Barackovich Obama plans to disgrace Russian president Vladimir Putin by tempting him to absorb more nations in Europe and Central Asia.

The Socialist Democratic Party is also planning similar ‘schooling’ for China, which is preparing to expand its territorial dominance in the Pacific. Comrade Obama has balanced the right amounts of antagonism and indecisiveness to lead Chinese officials to concede that they may not be able to control themselves, and will eventually invade their neighbors and establish military dominance.

Once China and Russian have gorged themselves on their neighbors, the USSA will then be able to demonstrate its moral superiority by relinquishing its international stature and follow the European principles of abhorring violence outside of international corporate interests that support the State.

Then, the workers and peasants of the USSA will finally experience the cleansing of their consciences as other nations, rather than our own, will be guilty of international crimes.

Let the Russian Reactionaries show their aggression to the world! Join Comrade Joe in agitating for an expanded Russia!


Faithfully submitted to the Collective of the People’s Cube,
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December 08, 2014, 09:08:08 PM
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The patriotic Russtards appear to be pretending they haven't heard the news...

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/related/2on802/russian_internal_affairs_ministry_hacked_66gb_of/


Oh, wait, I forgot about their controlled media brainwashing. Maybe they really haven't heard the news. Either way, there's no need to thank me for enlightening you.
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December 08, 2014, 09:14:18 PM
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As I didn't post for a long time here, if you want to make me happy ( Roll Eyes), it's a good opportunity for a nice happy Christian reunion, the East, the West, together let's stop those useless fights, let's stop wasting precious taxes (MINE) in stupid ideas... Frankly I know it sound stupid for all parties involved, but imagine if all those resources weren't used in something as important as killing your enemy, not because it's not important, but because all enemies became friends... However I agree there must be serious cleansing on all parts... no more lies, no more wars...

sorry to have interrupted those (even if tragic) fun comments... there are some real talents here... (just to resay my point, if those happy posters here were contributing to some more peaceful goals, I am sure it would be something worth seeing, for me, and you). at least I tried...  Embarrassed.

Just please, I can't stand this continuous lies about international law. I deeply hate international law, they believe that plants of the Creation are illegals... WTF, they are the ones who are gonna be illegal later on (I DEARLY HOPE). furthermore you can't have your international law as long as there are religions. And let me tell you, it ain't entity like the USA or Russia or the UN that will get to the pious ones... you have no chances. Your nations learned the concept of pharaoh only far later once it was gone... Furthermore, and specialymore I PREFER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CONSTITUTION AND BILLS OF RIGHTS.

In short you are just fighting your "very" ""far"" cousins... to death. I don't think it's cool, but someone will have to fold or be wiped out. It's the rules. you all know it. so who is gonna fold or be wiped out first? there is nothing left to save in a wipe out... One story of a great great commander once, he came to his opponents and ask to see the opposing leader. They met in the middle, alone ( at this time if the chief was behind he would have to fold). the first one, got is weapon out, and before the other could move his, gave it to his opponents... saying: I will respawn with a bigger army... they made peace and created a nice place to live for both of armies... you know why? They understood that none of them was afraid of death...

There are many games to simulate war, enjoy, you can respawn as much as you want Smiley.

EXCUTIVE : DON'T SEEK WAR, SEEK PEACE, LOVE, HARMONY, PROSPERITY, SERENITY, PLEASURE AND SENSUALITY FOR ALL IN SAFETY.

ultra: all those pains and efforts to be wiped out by a rock from deep space...  Grin. it would be stupidly funny...

money is faster...
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December 08, 2014, 09:16:51 PM
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The patriotic Russtards appear to be pretending they haven't heard the news...

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/related/2on802/russian_internal_affairs_ministry_hacked_66gb_of/


Oh, wait, I forgot about their controlled media brainwashing. Maybe they really haven't heard the news. Either way, there's no need to thank me for enlightening you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3Iq3XQkAw
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December 08, 2014, 09:22:36 PM
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The patriotic Russtards appear to be pretending they haven't heard the news...

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/related/2on802/russian_internal_affairs_ministry_hacked_66gb_of/


Oh, wait, I forgot about their controlled media brainwashing. Maybe they really haven't heard the news. Either way, there's no need to thank me for enlightening you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3Iq3XQkAw

Your aggressive rejection of new knowledge has been noted. Smiley
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December 08, 2014, 10:09:40 PM
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Hackers Dump Thousands of Rostov Police Documents on Internet; Evidence of Soldiers Wounded in Ukraine

InformNapalm, a website that has published exposes of Russian troops and armor in Ukraine, has recently leaked thousands of documents it claims came from the Russian Interior Ministry's branch in Rostov, near the Ukrainian border.

In an article titled "Ukrainian Cybertroops Dump Mass of Data from Servers of Russian Interior Ministry; Compromising Materials Found!," InfoNapalm.org reports that Eugene Dokunin, a Ukrainian computer programmer, is coordinating a team of volunteers to publicize and analyze the documents.

The archive has been posted on a Google Drive and contains 69 folders of 1.78 GB of files.

We have found some indication that the documents may be authentic, but more analysis is needed. The documents consist of a huge volume of reports, and minute detail on police operations using the kind of language and acronyms known to be used by Russian police, possibly indicating that these were leaked from the Rostov Interior Ministry,

To verify the materials, documents will have to be linked to other verified news reports and documents.

We found one such document in the archives, a report called "Manhunt," which describes a joint operation between the police and Federal Security Service (FSB) to look for people already on existing "wanted" lists. The report describes the capture of  Mikhail Shvindyakov, accused of robbery and larceny, whom we also discovered on the "wanted" list published on the web site of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. The same birth date and offenses were listed, but the cities of residency differed.

More such matches are needed to assess the legitimacy of the trove. Russian journalists and NGOs who are experts on police have yet to comment (we have sent out some queries and are awaiting responses.)

Ukrainian activists are digging through the trove and say they have found some materials that confirm the participation of Russian soldiers and law-enforcers in the war in eastern Ukraine. They say they found one document dated August 25, 2014, which appears to be a police report about four Russian soldiers, serving in Millerovo, who said they were wounded by National Guard fighters 10 kilometers to the northwest of the village of Prognoy of Tarasov District. As InformNapalm  illustrates, that would put it inside Ukrainian territory:


This document is posted to Informnapalmorg's site here. We were also able to find it in the archive here, in the folder labelled "Millerovo," a Russian town near the Ukrainian border.


Another document posted here contains information about 237 wounded persons from the region of Ukraine as of September 27. They were said to include two wounded soldiers accompanied by FSB guards. We have not yet located the document in the archive.

Some Twitter bloggers have posted some examples of these documents, but they haven't posted links back to the archive itself, so we can't verify the claims yet.

The files contain a huge grab-bag of materials -- a robbery of a jewelry store, theft of icons of a Russian Orthodox Church, 26 persons stopped for various traffic violations -- including 8 Romas from Ukraine without identification papers.

So they will have to be sifted through to find anything that is relevant to the war in Ukraine or other important topics.

For example, one police report is dated October 25, 2014, on "Administrative Practice in the Area of Ensuring Public Safety". After scrolling through reports of arrests for "petty hooliganism" and "drinking alcohol in a public place," we noticed the arrest of 5 administrative violators for "propaganda and public demonstration of Nazi attributes or symbols or public demonstration of attributes or symbols of extremist organizations" in Rostov, Volgodonskoye, Bataisk and Belokalitvensky District.

So the "Nazism" isn't only "in Ukraine" as Russian propaganda claims, but right in Russia.

A document signed by M.B. Doda and addressed to Yu.I. Kravchenko, a police colonel who is head of the Interior Ministry branch in Rostov, contains a blank form labelled "form for reporting on citizens of Ukraine who come into treatment facilities on the territory of Police Dept. No. 2 in Rostov." That could mean wounded soldiers -- or wounded civilians, we don't know.

Another document dated "June 2014," but with the day left out, is a report on "eliminating violations of federal law" by policemen themselves. Evidently the police were "ineffective" in their work in "stopping illegal migration" in the region. What this meant is that police had failed to properly inspect and register foreign immigrants -- likely from Ukraine. Russia doesn't seem to discourage immigrants from Ukraine so far and claims to be taking care of them, but they do apparently want to document them thoroughly and weed out those suspected of crimes.

Another document dated September 11, 2014 is "Order No. 1362" from the main directorate of the Rostov Interior Ministry office, signed by Maj. Gen. A.P. Larionov and speaks of the need to combat unlawful transport of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and drugs from Ukraine across the Russian border and outlines a number of measures to better tighten up and coordinate the work. Are authorities worrying about the war in Ukraine blowing back home?

Here's a document of arrests made by traffic police of truck drivers without their papers in order or illegal freight - drugs, alcohol, meat, nuts, metal, arms, ammunition, stolen property. Where are the arms and ammunition going to? And given how often we see Russian convoys roll into Ukraine without being stopped, why are some trucks stopped by traffic police?

In other words, the documents make clear what a strain the war in Ukraine -- instigated by the Kremlin in Moscow -- has put on the regional police authorities who must now cope with hundreds of thousands of refugees pouring across the border, and thousands of Russian-backed militants from the Donbass who come into Russia for training, supply and R&R.

We'll continue to look through these folders and report on any interesting findings.

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-live-day-294-fighting-continues-on-eve-of-day-of-silence/#5481

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxsQ108is142Q1dMcVNUc3J2U28

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