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January 16, 2015, 03:56:06 AM
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DPR President tell it how it is.

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I suppose that this upcoming train wreck, long in the making, explains many a "pre-emptive" action

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“During my investigation, people called me a traitor and said I was making things up,” Marty told the Tribune de Genève. “The Europeans disappointed me. Germany, the United Kingdom, and many others blocked the establishment of the truth. In fact, most European countries actively participated in a system that legitimated large-scale state crimes.”
“I think we must recall, and it is very important, that this operation, this anti-terrorist policy, was decided and carried out under the aegis of NATO,” Marty told Swiss television channel RTS.
“The United States invoked Article 5 of the NATO Charter, which says that if one member of the alliance is attacked militarily [e.g., as Washington claimed, on September 11], all NATO members are required to come to its aid,” Marty said. Once this was accepted, he added, “there were a whole series of secret accords between the United States and European powers. And all the European countries pledged to grant total immunity to CIA agents, which is manifestly illegal.”

The European powers’ participation in the CIA torture program underscores the utter hypocrisy of the humanitarian pretensions used to justify operations ranging from NATO wars in Syria and Libya to this February's NATO-backed, fascist-led putsch in Ukraine.

US torture report exposes European powers’ involvement in CIA crimes
By Alex Lantier
12 December 2014

[Suspicious link removed]ws.org/en/articles/2014/12/12/euto-d12.html

Edit: Yeah, I´m not surprised. Do some reading at World Socialist Web Site w s w s .org and you´ll soon find out why someone somewhere has designated it as "suspicious".
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January 16, 2015, 06:39:37 AM
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Elizabeth Warren Destroys Janet Yellen Over JPMorgan's 'Living Will' - July 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtSMLgaW6U
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NEWS FLASH:

Poroshenko ramps up Ukrainian "goat rodeo" war effort.

http://uatoday.tv/politics/president-petro-poroshenko-issued-a-decree-about-military-mobilization-402754.html

Figures. George Soros was there a few days ago giving marching orders. Also swept through their vaults licking up Gold dust and loose change.
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Donetsk republic says Kiev used chemical munitions in attack on airport
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/771579



From https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/confirmed-russia-to-stop-transit-of-gas-to-europe-through-ukraine/

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Recent events, in which Ukraine and certain EU countries acted strangely, to say the least, apparently were the last drop, reinforcing Russia’s intentions. The events I am referring to were: Ukraine PM Yatsenyuk giving multiple interviews and speeches in Germany accusing Russia of attacking the Nazi Germany and Ukraine, while Merkel stood by him, failing to react to the outright lie.

The recent Volnovakha, Donbass tragedy in which 10 people died and scores were wounded when a bus with Donetsk pensioners was hit by a bomb or a mine on the Ukraine side. This incident was immediately blamed on the Donbass self-defence. Ukraine tried to get EU to recognize LNR and DNR as terrorist organizations, while designating Russia as the state aiding terrorism, followed by a new round of sanctions. While the resolution failed, another resolution to adopt a new round of anti-Russian sanctions may pass (I don’t have the latest on that).

Meanwhile, per reports, US, France and Poland, among others, have agreed to supply advanced arms to Ukraine. In addition, two ships, one from Australia and one from Canada docked in the Odessa port in the past week to two. Each was full of winter uniforms for the Ukraine army. Poroshenko went to Paris to participate in the Unity March together with Merkel and Hollande, as I wrote here, to express solidarity with the victims of the French terrorist acts, while hundreds and thousands were dying at home unnoticed by anyone. Poroshenko’s trip strangely coincided with Yatsenyuk trying to promote Russia as aggressor in Germany and the Volnovakha bus tragedy.

Right after returning from France Poroshenko announced three new waves of mobilization to recruit over 200,000 soldiers – we now know that when they re-start the war with Donbass, they’ll be able to kill more efficiently thanks to all those Australian and Canadian uniforms keeping them nice and warm. In the meantime, the bombings of Donbass have intensified by 10-20 times. For the past week or so the number of dead and wounded from Ukraine’s shelling is greater than for the past 3-4 months combined – exact numbers are not known yet, but the preliminary number is 52 dead during the past few days.

As a result of Poroshenko’s visit to Paris and the killing of 10 civilians in Volnovakha, the Astana, Kazakhstan peace conference planned for today, January 15, was cancelled. To wrap up the vicious cycle of events, the man who was instrumental in organizing the Astana peace conference was The French president, Hollande.

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January 16, 2015, 08:42:57 PM
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What did you expect ... that people in donbass will get fully loaded weapons from russia ... and Ukraina will fight with rocks ... ? LoL ...

You can explain what you want ... russian propaganda is over ... only dumb people can read and beleive in all these shits ... posted by neo-faschist media... LoL

Really, official media claiming that attack in france are driven by US ... LoL funny .... this is not tomorrow we will see 1 millions citizen walking in the street of Moscow in peace ... for Huh Hoo yes i forget something fobidden in Russia => democratic voice ... perhaps it is not full ... but we have the right of speach ... and not only speak what the gov want ...

https://twitter.com/onlinekpru/status/555759141424472064/photo/1

http://www.kp.ru/daily/26329.4/3212604/

So now you can explain what you want ... the fact are there ... Of course => all medias think ..what happend is nice ... killing people for a draw ?? Perhaps in russia we are killed for less than a draw ... why not .... so this is show really what worth a life in russia.

Tomorrow i think i will read that Poutine saw Alien coming to Russia and they are sent by USA !

Sorry but i prefer to be 'IamCharlie' then "Iamdumbass" Cheesy
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A little catching up to do for Souldream. Makes for better perspective.

US-EU Clash on How to Install a Puppet Regime in Ukraine. Victoria Nuland

Global Research, February 07, 2014
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Nuland: Fuck the EU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5n8UbJ8jsk

Yesterday’s leak of the flagrant telephone talk between the US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey R. Pyatt has already hit the international media headlines. In short, it turned out that the US officials were coordinating their actions on how to install a puppet government in Ukraine. They agreed to nominate Bat’kyvshchina Party leader Arseniy Yatseniuk as Deputy Prime Minister, to bench Udar Party leader Vitaly Klitschko off the game for a while and to discredit neo-Nazi Svoboda party chief Oleh Tiahnybok as “Yanukovych’s project”. Then Mrs. Nuland informed the US Ambassador that the Washington’s hand by the UN Secretary General, Under-Secretary for Political Affairs Jeffrey  Feltman had already instructed Ban Ki-moon to send his special envoy to Kyiv this week “to glue the things”. Touching the European role in managing Ukraine’s political crisis, she was matchlessly elegant: “Fuck the EU”.

In a short while, after nervous attempts to blame Russians in fabricating (!) the tape (State Department: “this is a new low in Russian tradecraft”), Mrs. Nuland brought her apologies to the EU officials. Does it mean that the Washington’s repeatedly leaked genuine attitude towards the “strategic Transatlantic partnership” is much worthy of apology than the direct and clear interference into the internal affairs of a sovereign state and violation of the US-Russia-UK agreement (1994 Budapest memorandum) on security assurances for Ukraine?  Meanwhile this document inter alia reads as follows:

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The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to respect the Independence and Sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.

The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.

Back to the latest Mrs. Nuland’s diplomatic collapse made public,  it is hardly an unwilling and regretful fault. Andrey Akulov from Strategic Culture Foundation has published a brilliant report (Bride at every wedding, Part I and Part II) a couple of days ago depicting a blatant lack of professionalism and personal intergity of Mrs. Nuland. He described in details her involvement in misinforming the US President and nation on the circumstances of the assasination of the US Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens in Benghazi in September 2012 and her support of the unlawful US funding of a number of the Russian “independent” NGOs seeking to bring a color revolution to Russia.

Her diplomatically unacceptable behavior on the Ukrainian track, which culminated on YouTube this week (video and full transcript are available below), suggests that Mrs. Nuland is perhaps a wrong person in a wrong position for protecting American interests in Eurasia.

Full transcript of the telephone talk between the US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey R. Pyatt (posted on YouTube on Feb 6, 2014):

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Victoria Nuland (V.N.): What do you think?

Geoffrey R. Pyatt (G.P.): I think we are in play. The Klitchko piece is obviously the most complicated electron here, especially the announcement of him as Deputy Prime Minister. You have seen my notes on trouble in the marriage right now, so we are trying to get a read really fast where he is on the staff. But I think your argument to him which you’ll need to make, I think that’s the next phone call that you want to set up is exactly the one you made to Yats (Yatsenuk’s nickname). I’m glad you put him on the spot. <…> He fits in this scenario. And I am very glad he said what he said.

V.N.: Good. I don’t think Klitsch (Klitschko’s nickname) should be in the government. I don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea.

G.P.: Yeah, I mean, I guess… In terms of him not going into the government… I’d just let him stay out and do his political homework. I’m just thinking, in terms of sort of the process moving ahead, we want to keep the moderate democrats together. The problem is gonna be with Tyahnibok and his guys. And, you know, I am sure that is part of what Yanukovych is calculating on all this.

V.N.: I think Yats is the guy. He has economic experience and governing experience. He is the guy. You know, what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnibok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week. You know, I just think if Klitchko gets in, he’s going to be at that level working for Yatsenuk, it’s just not gonna work…

G.P.: Yeah, yeah, I think that’s right. Ok, good. Would you like us to set up a call with him as the next step?

V.N.: My understading from that call that you tell me was that the big three were going into their own meeting and that Yats was gonna offer in this context, you know, a «three plus one» conversation or a «three plus two» conversation with you. Is that not how you understood it?

G.P.: No. I think that was what he proposed but I think that knowing the dynamic that’s been with them where Klitchko has been the top dog, he’ll show up for whatever meetings they’ve got and he’s probably talking to his guys at this point. So, I think you reaching out directly to him, helps with the personality management among the three. And it also gives you a chance to move fast on all this stuff and put us behind it, before they all sit down and he explains why he doesn’t like it.

V.N.: Ok. Good. I am happy. Why don’t you reach out to him and see if he wants to talk before or after.

G.P.: Ok, I will do it. Thanks.

Nuland-YouTube V.N.: I can’t remember if I told you this or if I only told Washington this: when I talked to Jeff Feltman this morning he had a new name for the UN guy – Robert Serry. I wrote you about it this morning.

G.P.: Yeah, I saw that.

V.N.: Ok. He’s gotten now both Serry and Ban ki-Moon to agree that Serry will come on Monday or Tuesday. That would be great I think to help glue this thing and to have the UN help glue it and, if you like, fuck the EU.

G.P.: No, exactly. And I think we’ve got to do something to make it stick together because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain altitude that the Russians will be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it. And again the fact that this is out there right now, I am still trying to figure out in my mind why Yanukovych <…> that. In the meantime there is a Party of Regions faction meeting going on right now and I am sure there is a lively argument going on in that group at this point. But anyway, we could land <our toast> jelly side up on this one if we move fast. So let me work on Klitschko and if you can just keep… I think we just want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.

V.N.: So on that piece, Jeff, when I wrote the note Sullivan’s come back to me V.F.R., saying you need Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an atta boy and to get the details to stick. So, Biden’s willing.

G.P.: Ok. Great, thanks.

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Deputy Secretary General EE AS External Service Helga M. Schmid (H.S.) and Jan Tombinsky (J.T.), EU Ambassador to Ukraine (rendering, starting 0:04:13 on the tape):

H.S.: Jan, it’s Helga once again. I’d like to tell you one more thing, it’s confidential. The Americans are beating about the bush and saying that our stand is too soft. They believe we should be stronger and apply sanctions. I talked to Cathy (Cathrene Ashton – OR) and she agrees with us on the matter we were discussing last time. We will do it but we must arrange everything in a clever way.

J.T.: You know we have other instruments.

H.S.: The journalists are already talking that the EU stand is “too soft”. What you should really know is that we are very angry that the Americans are beating about the bush. Maybe you tell the US Ambassador and draw his attention to the fact that our stand is not soft, we’ve just made a hard-line statement and took a tougher stance… I want you to know that it would be detrimental to our interests if we see in the newspapers that «The European Union does not support freedom». Cathy will not like it.

J.T.: Helga, we do not compete in a race. We should demonstrate that this situation is not a competition in diplomatic toughness. I’ve just heard about the opposition’s new proposal to the president. I’ll write Cathy about it right now.

H.S.: Ok.

P.S. Awkward attempts to question “morality” is such revelations sound especially hypocritical from a global spying power that monitors and controls most of the mobile phone and internet users activities, taps the phone lines of world leaders, and oversees the world’s most far-reaching wire-tapping program.

Copyright Oriental Review 2014

http://orientalreview.org/2014/02/07/what-about-apologizing-to-ukraine-mrs-nuland/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-eu-clash-on-how-to-install-a-puppet-regime-in-ukraine-victoria-nuland/5367794
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January 16, 2015, 09:39:51 PM
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Don't waste your time, this guy is of those smarties who believe that using the trucks for coal  transportation could be economically profitable. Typical euromaidummie, nothing to add here.
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Don't waste your time, this guy is of those smarties who believe that using the trucks for coal  transportation could be economically profitable. Typical euromaidummie, nothing to add here.

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Victoria Nuland is a female version of neocon entrepreneurs who tries to make her career by beating the drums of war in the State Department. One in a long lone of similar figures starting from unforgettable female sociopath Madeleine Albright, who was instrumental in bombing Serbia into the stone age. After the war "her investment firm, Albright Capital Management, was preparing to bid in the proposed privatization of Kosovo's state-owned telecom and postal company, Post and Telecom of Kosovo" (Wikipedia) "

It is apparent that if you re politically correct in the U.S. two-part one-party state then in the State Department being wrong repeatedly has no effect on one’s employability. Nuland was a close associate of Dick Cheney and somehow managed to pass a test for loyalty to Obama, which suggest that Obama is probably not Bush-light, but just Bush III.  In this role she was instrumental in creating of the "war on terror" scam -- permanent war without end as if taken from the pages of Orwell's 1984. And nothing but continuity between Bush and Obama administration in foreign policy can explain the fact that after this career stunt she was appointed to a prominent position in the Obama administration.
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January 16, 2015, 11:40:51 PM
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- The town of Gorlovka was again shelled today by Ukro-Nazis
- Shelling of town Slavjanoserbsk left 1/5 of all residential houses completely destroyed.
- Lugansk suffered prolonged shelling during the last 24 hours.

- Ukrainian side didn't turn up in Minsk for negotiations

- Hackers published a document from SBU, ordering Ukrainian units to shell Ukrainian-controlled positions on specific days, then bring in Ukrainian and Western press and lay the blame on the Armies of Donetsk and Lugansk.

- Donetsk airport is under Donetsk republican control, with the last pockets of insurgents being eliminated:
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/771665

And more news in English here: http://itar-tass.com/en/developments-in-south-eastern-ukraine


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January 17, 2015, 05:44:10 PM
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Judging by all the confusion, I would say that the US's proxy war in Ukraine is doing very well!
Civilians dying left and right and nobody in the West has a clue!
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This really needs to just end now.

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This really needs to just end now.

its part of the process.
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This really needs to just end now.

Unlikely to happen soon, poroshenko has announced a 4th wave of mobilization, 50,000 more civilians are about to be drafted, including men and women.

They will all be sent into the meatgrinder..

The fascists that have taken power in Ukraine do not care about sending all of their civilians to their deaths.

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January 18, 2015, 07:25:53 AM
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This really needs to just end now.

Unlikely to happen soon, poroshenko has announced a 4th wave of mobilization, 50,000 more civilians are about to be drafted, including men and women.

They will all be sent into the meatgrinder..

The fascists that have taken power in Ukraine do not care about sending all of their civilians to their deaths.

There is a limit to this. And it will end long before the last civilian has been sent to the front line. Actually, we have already seen what it might look like... Cool

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Donetsk shelled as Kiev 'orders massive fire' on militia-held E. Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/223791-ukraine-massive-shelling-donetsk/



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Violence escalated in eastern Ukraine as Kiev’s troops launched a massive assault on militia-held areas Sunday morning. The army was ordered to start massive shelling of all rebel positions, a presidential aide said.

The order to launch the offensive was issued early approximately at 6:00 am, according to Yury Biryukov, an aide to President Petro Poroshenko.

“Today we will show HOW good we are at jabbing in the teeth,” he wrote on his Facebook page, a mode of conveying information favored by many Ukrainian officials.

In a later post he said: “They are now striking a dot. Uuu…” in a reference to Tochka-U (‘tochka’ means ‘dot’ in Russian), a tactical ballistic missile, one of the most powerful weapons Ukraine so far deployed against rebel forces.

“That wasn’t a dot but ellipsis. Strong booms,” he added.

Madmen have usurped power in Kiev - they will not stop killing off their own population until forced to.

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Kiev is on the path to level Donetsk with ground and exterminate all of its inhabitants.

DPR head: Kiev uses truce in Donbass to realign its forces and build up arms
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/771793

Moscow regrets Kiev continues gross violations connected with firing Donetsk
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/771788

Look how the false flag in Volnovaha is being used by the Nazis in Kiev, using the French shooting as a template:

Poroshenko vows to revive Donbass
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/771794
http://rt.com/news/223823-kiev-rally-bus-charlie/
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The march in central Kiev drew more than 10,000 participants, who carried Ukrainian flags and posters reading in Ukrainian and French “I am Volnovakha.

-- Пopoшeнкo c тaбличкoй "Я - Boлнoвaxa", этo кaк Гapи Tpyмэн c тaбличкoй "Я - Xиpocимa!" ©
-- Poroshenko with a sign "I am Volnovaha is like Gary Truman with a sign "I am Hiroshima"!

People in that bus died after an anti-personnel mine was detonated, but the tragedy was connected to a shelling of a checkpoint some 300 meter away, done from deeper into the Ukrainian-controlled territory.

Kiev-Nazis may probably kill everyone in Donetsk and Lugansk, but the partisan movement will endure, just like it endured for 4 years on the German-Nazi occupied territories in the 1940s.

Gorlovka is being bombed from bombers:
http://ria.ru/world/20150118/1043102227.html





Came across a good observation of historical parallels:

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Йocиф Гeббeльc c Baльцмaнoм - бpaтья близнeцы- cцeнapий пpoвoкaций тaкoй жe - пoджoг Peйxcтaгa, paccтpeл paдиocтaнции в Пoльшe, cнaйпepы из дoмa кoмeндaнтa Пapyбия, cбитый Бoинг, paccтpeл aвтoбyca в Boлнoвaxe, нeт дoкaзaтeльcтв пpимeнeния зaпpeщeннoгo opyжия пpoтив житeлeй.
Xapькoв Mapиyпoль Oдeccy oкpyжили блoк пocтaми,cдeлaли peзepвaции для нecoглacныx c нaцизмoм ”нeлюдeй" - вcё кaк дoктop Бaйдeн пpoпиcaл.
Кличкo cкaзaл - Чepeз гoд вы нe yзнaeтe Укpaинy.
A чepeз 2 гoдa yдивитecь - этo Кoлoния Уcилeннoгo Peжимa - бeз пpaвa пepeпиcки и пpocмoтpa тeлeкaнaлoв,бeз cвoбoды пepeдвижeния, бeз cвoбoды cлoвa, бeз пpaвa нa жизнь - кoмy нe жить ceйчac peшaeт бaндepoвcкoe звepьё.
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Joseph Goebbels and Valtsman are twin brothers - provocations follow the same scenario - the burning of the Reichstag, the shooting of a radio station in Poland, the snipers out of the house commandant Parubiy, downed Boeing, shooting of the bus in Volnovakha, no evidence of the use of prohibited weapons against the people.
Kharkov, Odessa, Mariupol are surrounded by block posts, reservations for those "villains" who disagree with Nazism have been established - all as Dr. Biden ordered.
Klitschko said - After a year you will not recognize Ukraine.
And after 2 years you will be surprised - it'll become a strict security colony with prohibitions against writing letters and watching TV, without freedom of movement, without freedom of expression, without the right to life - those who will live and those who will die is now decided by Bandera beasts.
Hitler would say - the head of Bandera terrorists, Poroshenko, is much worse than me, because I've always cared about own people and I never ordered to bomb German cities and killing German women and children!

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January 18, 2015, 05:52:04 PM
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This really needs to just end now.

Unlikely to happen soon, poroshenko has announced a 4th wave of mobilization, 50,000 more civilians are about to be drafted, including men and women.

They will all be sent into the meatgrinder..

The fascists that have taken power in Ukraine do not care about sending all of their civilians to their deaths.



how many people do they need to stop a revolt.

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January 18, 2015, 06:19:14 PM
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how many people do they need to stop a revolt.

If by "they" you mean the coup government in Kiev, then  - a lot. The thing is, most conscripts are not willing to die for oligarch Poroshenko and his puppeteer Biden. Some go over to the resistance, some fight half-heartedly, and only the most brainwashed Ukro-Nazis stay to get killed, as the fight for Donetsk airport revealed.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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