Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[Pagan]

Cargo-200 to ruSSia

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If you're wondering how Western ANY propaganda press works...

the simplest method of spinning a news: SIMPLE OMISSION.

1) Yanukovich and his party are definetely not the russian puppets. It's obvious for anyone who have at least 1mg of brain because in terms of real nationalist practices he was even worse than all previous presidents combined. Violent crackdown of pro-russian non-government organizations, criminal cases against pro-russian activists, accelerated rates of forced ukrainization, politically motivated criminal cases against gazprom partners... All this happened during his presidency, even "radical nationalist" Yuschenko never tried to do anything like that. See what he did during presidency before going to replay this ridiculous propaganda verbatim once again.
2) Parliamentary and presidential elections were recognized by the EU and US as legitimate and fair. Are you going to claim that OSCE observers are incompetent?

With so many Russians and Russian speakers living in Ukraine, it's easy to paint ANY form of BASIC LAW AND ORDER as some racially motivated crackdown against Russians. Simple omission. Neglect to mention that they really were committing some crime, and focus on their ethnicity to incite nationalist emotions.

Have you got any reply to this, Balthazar or myshownow?

[bryant.coleman]

There has been lots of news about Azov, being an independent all volunteer untra-nationalist group (which keeps claiming they are not racist or antisemite), attracting neo-Nazi followers/volunteers from places like Belgium, and even Sweden. English would be a common "international" language for them to use. So this isn't really surprising.

Since when has the Azov battalion become an "independent" group? It is funded and sponsored by the 3rd richest man in Ukraine (the oligarch Igor Kolomoysky). Azov commanders take their orders directly from Kolomoysky, who is a close associate of Poroshenko. And yes.. they have neo-Nazis from all around the world, especially from countries such as Belgium and Sweden.

[myshownow]

Cargo-200 to ruSSiag]

Hi, Peggy (better than Pagan),  have you washed your gown?   How is Deisik btw? He was jealous, I told him he can have you...

Well, nice pic you got there. I've always heard the CIA does a mean job of falsification in their disinformation campaign.

With the news that China officially dumped the dollars in all its transactions, joining Russia in their Dollarbuster team-up, I thought the CIA would be busy in more serious things. Well...

Watch for the next blockbuster movie: The DOLLAR BUSTERS
Starring Russia & China, the new superstars




NOTE: Deisik, I was just joking, dude. Don't vomit yet. Congrats, btw, you destroyed Niothor last night

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With so many Russians and Russian speakers living in Ukraine, it's easy to paint ANY form of BASIC LAW AND ORDER as some racially motivated crackdown against Russians. Simple omission. Neglect to mention that they really were committing some crime, and focus on their ethnicity to incite nationalist emotions.

It could even be said that part of Russia's aggression is their constant support for any criminals in the Ukraine who happen to hold Russian passports. If a Russian gets arrested, they can rely on RT or some other news agency to make some noise about their case, or if it's only a minor thing, they will be added to the statistics and later presented as one of the victims of Ukrainian nationalism.

This is just another part of Russia's hybrid war tactics. Criminals are not soldiers, they do not wear Russian uniforms, but they can still attack the 'enemy' country with their criminal behaviour. It makes great propaganda because Russian media liars can cry wolf that the "Ukrainian junta is oppressing ethnic Russians! Innocent Russian civilians are being targeted for no reason! Ukrainian nationalism and Nazism is getting worse!"

What if the criminals get extradited to Russia? Nothing. It's the evil Ukrainian junta, of course! So the criminals are protected. Russia sends no soldiers, and it's all just internal, civil unrest inside Ukraine, which has nothing to do with Russia, amirite?

[deisik]

NOTE: Deisik, I was just joking, dude. Don't vomit yet. Congrats, btw, you destroyed Niothor last night

I thought Pagan had been hunting down leopards in the Western Ukraine last week (though I doubt if he got any). Regarding Niothor, he seems to be having obsessive inferiority complexes (that's understandable)...

[Nemo1024]

Hmm... I see there's a full-out war going on here...

I guess the truce is observed here just as well as by the Kiev coup-government's ground troops in Ukraine...

[niothor]

NOTE: Deisik, I was just joking, dude. Don't vomit yet. Congrats, btw, you destroyed Niothor last night

I thought Pagan had been catching leopards in Western Ukraine last week (though I doubt if he got any). Regarding Niothor, he seems to be having obsessive inferiority complexes (that's understandable)...

Of course , it's all you russian who have an inferiority complex , but it's understandable..
From once a superpower now having a gdp lower than california... sucks


As for those exercises they are nothing new.

The same exercise was held in 2013 under the same name.
http://www.eur.army.mil/news/2013/20130719_RapidTrident_closes.html

[Nemo1024]

From once a superpower now having a gdp lower than california... sucks

You know what is really funny? I have seen the variations on the sentence like above many times, both in present days, and in the historical documents.
The other versions include "Russia is done for." "Russia is on a brink of collapse." "Russia is a thing of the past." It's been going like that for almost 600 years now...

That's called wishful thinking...

[Pagan]

ruSSia to face huge financial crisis, Die Welt says



http://www.welt.de/finanzen/geldanlage/article132323833/Russland-steuert-auf-eine-gigantische-Finanzkrise-zu.html

[niothor]

From once a superpower now having a gdp lower than california... sucks

You know what is really funny? I have seen the variations on the sentence like above many times, both in present days, and in the historical documents.
The other versions include "Russia is done for." "Russia is on a brink of collapse." "Russia is a thing of the past." It's been going like that for almost 600 years now...

That's called wishful thinking...

Sorry but you're twisting my words here.
I never said that Russia is going to compete with Bangladesh but it's days of a super power are long gone.

As for it's gonna be bankrupt , it's gonna collapse it's in the past...
You have to agree that since 2000 people are saying the same about the US , yet ...who's your daddy?

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From once a superpower now having a gdp lower than california... sucks

It's been going like that for almost 600 years now...

That's called wishful thinking...

I can think of a few other things that have been going on for 600 years...

Paraphrasing the genetically engineered Russian cynicism:

"That was not the real Russia. That was the USSR/the Communists/some oligarch/someone else. It was not our fault. We were helpless victims and could do nothing to stop the government."

[Nemo1024]

From once a superpower now having a gdp lower than california... sucks

You know what is really funny? I have seen the variations on the sentence like above many times, both in present days, and in the historical documents.
The other versions include "Russia is done for." "Russia is on a brink of collapse." "Russia is a thing of the past." It's been going like that for almost 600 years now...

That's called wishful thinking...

Sorry but you're twisting my words here.
I never said that Russia is going to compete with Bangladesh but it's days of a super power are long gone.

As for it's gonna be bankrupt , it's gonna collapse it's in the past...
You have to agree that since 2000 people are saying the same about the US , yet ...who's your daddy?

I wasn't - I was simply exposing the intent in your words. By the way, I wouldn't say that Russia was a superpower to be gin with. It was and still is just Russia, minding its business and trying to avoid being overrun. Being a superpower implies ambition of being such. That is something displayed by the UK and now US. They try to project their world view on Russia, but that just does not stick.

As for my daddy? Certainly not the US.   I've been steadily moving all of my assets that were US dollar-denominated bonds to Northern Europe, Russia and BTC. Nothing patriotic or personal, just business, looking at the the way the events are playing out.

[niothor]

From once a superpower now having a gdp lower than california... sucks

You know what is really funny? I have seen the variations on the sentence like above many times, both in present days, and in the historical documents.
The other versions include "Russia is done for." "Russia is on a brink of collapse." "Russia is a thing of the past." It's been going like that for almost 600 years now...

That's called wishful thinking...

Sorry but you're twisting my words here.
I never said that Russia is going to compete with Bangladesh but it's days of a super power are long gone.

As for it's gonna be bankrupt , it's gonna collapse it's in the past...
You have to agree that since 2000 people are saying the same about the US , yet ...who's your daddy?

I wasn't - I was simply exposing the intent in your words. By the way, I wouldn't say that Russia was a superpower to be gin with. It was and still is just Russia, minding its business and trying to avoid being overrun. Being a superpower implies ambition of being such. That is something displayed by the UK and now US. They try to project their world view on Russia, but that just does not stick.

As for my daddy? Certainly not the US.   I've been steadily moving all of my assets that were US dollar-denominated bonds to Northern Europe, Russia and BTC. Nothing patriotic or personal, just business, looking at the the way the events are playing out.

So you switched to barney rubbles?
Nice move....how much did you lost in the last month alone?

“I want to remind you that Russia is one of the most powerful nuclear nations. This is a reality, not just words.”

Peaceful russians in actions with no desire to be a super power.

[Pagan]

 

[Nemo1024]

“I want to remind you that Russia is one of the most powerful nuclear nations. This is a reality, not just words.”

Peaceful russians in actions with no desire to be a super power.

If you want peace, prepare for war. Russia know it better than most, being the target of countless invasions of varying degree of success, form and scale.

Will you suggest that a hedgehog should shave itself just to show the fox how peaceful he is? I bet foxes are saying about hedgehogs that they are "prickly aggressive bastards". 

[deisik]

ruSSia to face huge financial crisis, Die Welt says



http://www.welt.de/finanzen/geldanlage/article132323833/Russland-steuert-auf-eine-gigantische-Finanzkrise-zu.html

Lol, these charts are really amusing... Why does it project into the future for several years yet to come, but doesn't start from a few years back?

[niothor]

“I want to remind you that Russia is one of the most powerful nuclear nations. This is a reality, not just words.”

Peaceful russians in actions with no desire to be a super power.

If you want peace, prepare for war. Russia know it better than most, being the target of countless invasions of varying degree of success, form and scale.

Will you suggest that a hedgehog should shave itself just to show the fox how peaceful he is? I bet foxes are saying about hedgehogs that they are "prickly aggressive bastards". 

How many wars has Russia fought on it's territory defending itself and how many to expand it's own ?
Common , be a sweet Norwegian guy m and acknowledge that it's about  1 to 10.

Don't forget that in the ww2 , the russian where the aggressors , sorry to say it but it's like that.

And , as blabla said , why do you say Russia was a target , Russia in a 25 years old country , isn't it?

[Nemo1024]

Here is Rouble to Norwegian Krone from 2009 (post-American housing crash):


I'd say it was relatively stable. There was that post-bubble bear trap in the beginning of the range and the Western-induced Ukrainian crises that started in February, destabilising Rouble, as planned by the US.

[Nemo1024]

How many wars has Russia fought on it's territory defending itself and how many to expand it's own ?
Common , be a sweet Norwegian guy m and acknowledge that it's about  1 to 10.

Don't forget that in the ww2 , the russian where the aggressors , sorry to say it but it's like that.

And , as blabla said , why do you say Russia was a target , Russia in a 25 years old country , isn't it?

Russia is an old country with an existential gap between 1917 and 1992 (and almost fulfilling the Western wish in the 90 and getting destroyed by US puppet Yeltsin and co.)

Russians were aggressors during WWII? Are you living in an alternate reality? I thought you were smarter. Even so, that means that Georgians were aggressors (especially them, those bloody murderous aggressive Georgians, who had under their thumb the better part of Eurasia and invaded Romania!), Ukrainians were aggressors, Azerbaijany were aggressors.

Also, if you put a 1:10 claim, please back it up.