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December 10, 2014, 10:45:52 PM
Last edit: December 11, 2014, 02:02:50 AM by Morbid
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How Russian tanks on the trains come to Ukraine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC1Vy9o9pw&feature=youtu.be


omg pagan. so brainwashed, jesus... do you realise this video could be taken anywhere?

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http://trainpix.org/vehicle/35749/"

basically the guy searched for the last locomotive in the end of the video which is stationed in yamal - deep siberia.


ohh and by the way here is the response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ4ECyzLjrU
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December 11, 2014, 02:01:59 AM
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Ukraine invasion: A Russian infantryman stands guard over

a captured Ukrainian Dec. 10th 2014



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December 11, 2014, 02:18:09 AM
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December 11, 2014, 05:21:42 AM
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Ukraine invasion: A Russian infantryman stands guard over

a captured Ukrainian Dec. 10th 2014




C'mon, it's a clear fake propaganda shot! The shot was probably taken in a open air museum or during some kind of re-enactment. The tanks have their muzzle cover on; the "captured Ukrainian"'s BDU is not an Ukranian one and he/she is looking like an Asian guy/girl; etc.

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December 11, 2014, 05:25:04 AM
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Ukraine invasion: A Russian infantryman stands guard over

a captured Ukrainian Dec. 10th 2014




C'mon, it's a clear fake propaganda shot! The shot was probably taken in a open air museum or during some kind of re-enactment. The tanks have their muzzle cover on; the "captured Ukrainian"'s BDU is not an Ukranian one and he/she is looking like an Asian guy/girl; etc.

You think ?  Grin

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December 11, 2014, 06:06:14 AM
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putin. sound like. put in ass Cheesy
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December 11, 2014, 06:39:02 AM
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Here´s the same infantryman with General Klamashnikov


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December 11, 2014, 07:40:18 AM
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putin. sound like. put in ass Cheesy
Maybe it's a sign of your real personality... Have you ever thought about that?
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December 11, 2014, 08:31:19 AM
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The problem is not where nice Russian people put their beautiful country.

The problem is where the Kremlin puts the Russian Army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_invasion_of_Georgia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Pact_invasion_of_Czechoslovakia







and still today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Russian_military_intervention_in_Ukraine

These are only a few of the reasons why the countries in galdur's funny picture welcome NATO with open arms and great relief.


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December 11, 2014, 09:08:24 AM
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Read a few months back that Russia wouldn't be doing too well if crude oil went below $80 and look at the price now Shocked time for Putin to surrender. Exit Ukraine and call all the Kremlin trolls back to base in fantasy land.
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December 11, 2014, 09:43:00 AM
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in all of the above examples the social instability been caused by outside forces.
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December 11, 2014, 12:00:45 PM
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in all of the above examples the social instability been caused by outside forces.

+ its peanuts compared to where the USA put their fucking army.  Angry
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December 11, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
Last edit: December 11, 2014, 05:01:41 PM by Nemo1024
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The problem is not where nice Russian people put their beautiful country.

The problem is where the Kremlin puts the Russian Army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_invasion_of_Georgia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Pact_invasion_of_Czechoslovakia

and still today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Russian_military_intervention_in_Ukraine

These are only a few of the reasons why the countries in galdur's funny picture welcome NATO with open arms and great relief.

The Soviet-Georgian war was basically a continuation of the 1917 revolution (coup d'etat) that overthrew the government of Russia, continuation of the fight between Mensheviks and Bolsheviks for power. I don't see you complaining about the Western intervention into Russia during that time. Before the coup d'etat of 1917, Georgia was part of Russian Empire, which it entered on its own request seeking protection from Persia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_%28country%29#Georgia_in_the_Russian_Empire

When you write about the Soviet era, speak of Soviet army and not about "Russians" as is the want of the Western propaganda. So the "Soviet invasion of anything" is basically an invasion of the said "anything" (depending on the year) by Lithuania, Belarus, Estonia, Moldova, Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, and the remaining of the 15 republics. You need to remember that RSFSR (that's how Russia was called back then) had little say in the running of USSR. The majority of the Soviet leaders and the members of polit-bureaux were from other republics than Russia. After Stalin's (Georgian national) death, the centre of political power and influence shifted to the Ukrainian Communist Party.

In any case, when blaming USSR for something, don't forget to spread the blame, and not shift it onto Russians as it is dictated by your current political agenda.

Now on to Georgian-Russian skirmish. Yes, it was in fact a minor skirmish, and not a war. Georgia invaded South Ossetia, where Russian peacekeepers were stationed. Said peacekeeping forces responded according to the prior agreements without requiring any additional mobilisation (as the case would be in a real war). Georgians (and among the offensive force there were quite a few Ukrainians that you see in the current extremist factions that took power in Ukraine) started shelling civilians. If Russia didn't interfere, you'd have the outcome that you see now in Novorossia. Once Russian forces drove Georgian army back to Tbilisi, they retreated, not staying/occupying Georgia (while this is standard military practise for USA: see Afghanistan, Iraq, etc). Which invalidates your last link/reference. There is no Russian intervention in Ukraine. If Russia interfered, you'd know that, because Russian military would be then seen in Kiev and beyond. As it is, because of the USA's pressure, Russia is staying out, only helping with humanitarian aid, and is helplessly watching the atrocities committed by US-backed Ukrainian nazis.

While on the topic of Georgia, here is an interesting political analysis:

Ukraine Part 6. Striking Geopolitical Similarities: Georgian War – Beijing2008 and Ukraine – Sochi2014
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/ukraine-part-6-striking-geopolitical-similarities-georgian-war-beijing2008-and-ukraine-sochi2014/

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The events in Ukraine are developing with such speed that I can’t write articles fast enough. Three days ago I said that I was planning a new article about the striking similarities of the situation during #Beijing2008 and #Sochi2014. As many would recall, during the Beijing Summer Games opening ceremony it became known that #Georgia in Caucasus had attacked a small breakaway republic of #SouthOssetia, killing in the process several Russian peacekeepers and shelling the sleeping city. #Russia responded and for four days there was something that Russia considered a small “peacekeeping operation” but what was dubbed dramatically in the West a “Georgia-Russian war.”

Also, you mention 6 cases over the last century (including Soviet period). How about USA, with over 50 invasions all over the world just post-WWII. I am sure Bryant Coleman would oblige with an updated list, but here's one in his earlier posts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725907.msg8828906#msg8828906

Oh, and about welcoming NATO. Georgia started to be friendly with Russia again, even prosecuting the US protege and hardened criminal Saakashvili, which prompted NATO chief of command urgently fly there and push a few buttons, give a few threats.

Yesterday, Uzbekistan and Russia made several economical and military agreements (and Russia completely wrote off Uzbeck debt). I wonder how long it will be before USA rushes there with a colour revolution.



Now, back to the topic at hand. Some of the yesterday's news:

The government of Lugansk republic published numbers showing that 1500 residential houses were destroyed beyond repair by Kiev exterminators' artillery shelling.

Another Russian convoy of 40 trucks with humanitarian aid, carrying food, medicine, warm clothes returned from its mission to Novorossia. I think it is the 9th such convoy, a lifeline for the besieged population.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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December 11, 2014, 09:47:42 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-u89y0DO0
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December 11, 2014, 09:52:03 PM
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Inflatable tanks - nothing new.

Deception has always been an integral part of warfare.

A rubber Sherman from WW2



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December 11, 2014, 10:43:07 PM
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Donetsk airport as asked Russia in helping to investigate cases of theft of equipment from the airport and to temporarily provide work to Donetsk airport's personnel in Russia.

http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/12/11/719980.html

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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December 11, 2014, 11:49:03 PM
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Read a few months back that Russia wouldn't be doing too well if crude oil went below $80 and look at the price now Shocked time for Putin to surrender. Exit Ukraine and call all the Kremlin trolls back to base in fantasy land.

Nah. Fuck Poontang and his Gazprom Mafia, and their "unpaid" supporters. Their entire country relies on fuel exports, which they extract for free, to pay for their entire arrogant system. It's quite sad. Their elites will probably be OK, while millions of poor Russians starve again. They blame the EU and the US for everything anyway, so what difference does it make if OPEC twists the knife with a price war?

Bring on $40 oil. Or how about $20?

Unless Russian oil and gas somehow runs out, their culture has an Arabic future. Putin is a failure for being unable to maintain Russia's cultural roots outside of fighting stupid wars. Science? Technology? Music and the Arts? Forget it. Why bother doing anything yourself when you can just BUY IT WITH GAS?
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December 12, 2014, 07:53:53 AM
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1 US Dollar equals
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1 Euro equals
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December 12, 2014, 11:09:17 AM
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putin. sound like. put in ass Cheesy

Oh, you really like him. Don't you?
I saw a lot of homosexuals who really like Putin a lot.

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December 12, 2014, 11:25:30 AM
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1 US Dollar equals
55.99 Russian Ruble

1 Euro equals
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Who cares how much one fiat currency is cost relative to another? We use crypto.

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