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Searing
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thanks that was refreshing I could use some 'good news' at least in the sense someone is 'striving' to fight the good fight at least (now back to my dismal price watching slow drip downwards....sigh I need a different hobby!) |
Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:) |
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seriouscoin
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October 26, 2014, 03:25:57 AM
Last edit: October 26, 2014, 05:59:09 AM by seriouscoin |
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Quick question for Ziv,
Does the firmware use Intake/Exhaust temp to tune the chips at all?
For example, the ASIC stats show chips temp at stable 77c (or below). But the exhaust temp is higher than that...80c... does the firmware use this to throttle the chips?
EDIT: btw can you add an option to be able to disable each chip? I just figured out how to get below 0.65w/GHs but the hashrate is dropping in/out due to some chips die/come back. I will post back the result to show others how.
I'd really appreciate this help.
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zvisha
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October 26, 2014, 12:15:12 PM |
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Quick question for Ziv,
Does the firmware use Intake/Exhaust temp to tune the chips at all?
For example, the ASIC stats show chips temp at stable 77c (or below). But the exhaust temp is higher than that...80c... does the firmware use this to throttle the chips?
EDIT: btw can you add an option to be able to disable each chip? I just figured out how to get below 0.65w/GHs but the hashrate is dropping in/out due to some chips die/come back. I will post back the result to show others how.
I'd really appreciate this help.
I guess you are talking about SP10. We don't measure all temperature in ASICs, just the high ones. Under 77 actually means under 105 or so. Regarding option to disable each ASIC, it can be done, but not trivial and I do not have time to do that at the moment. You can add such functionality and create a pull request. |
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RoadStress
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October 26, 2014, 03:23:33 PM |
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EDIT: btw can you add an option to be able to disable each chip? I just figured out how to get below 0.65w/GHs but the hashrate is dropping in/out due to some chips die/come back. I will post back the result to show others how. Share you method. Have you lowered the voltage or limited the PSU max power? If it's either of the methods have you tried the other one? |
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seriouscoin
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October 26, 2014, 09:55:50 PM |
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EDIT: btw can you add an option to be able to disable each chip? I just figured out how to get below 0.65w/GHs but the hashrate is dropping in/out due to some chips die/come back. I will post back the result to show others how. Share you method. Have you lowered the voltage or limited the PSU max power? If it's either of the methods have you tried the other one? Its involved alot of work so i spent basically all this weekend. Its not done as i need a software solution to disable some chips. I really hope Zvisha can update firmware to tune them better( downclock or disable chips with high temp) First, i removed all the 6 tiny fans, these are like 8watt each (the loudest fans i've ever heard). Stacking all the miners with some pink foam as spacer i use Nidec 120mmx38mm fans at the back (0.8A) for a total of 9 fans for 8 SP10s. For anyone with just 1 SP10, you can get away with only 2x120 Nidec fans . These are server fans, not your consumer cooling fans. They're strong yet not as high-pitched loud. I actually removed all the tiny fans when i collocated the SP10s with special ducting work, so i already got this step done. Since i now gonna host them in at my office closet, i use the 120mm fans Second, my setting is : Fan: 40% ( the minimum setting by default but i feel this does not control PSU fans as i thought, zvi, can we control the PSU fan?) start voltage: 0.585v Max voltage: 0.595v Max power consumption: 700w. All this got me: 600-640w at 920GHs-1000GHs. BUT i'm gonna see if i can physically KILL some chips as i dont have a software option. Reason you need to do this is because some chips will get way too hot and they throttles the whole miner. Since you removed the tiny fans, some chips will get alot hotter due to not having balanced air flow. Thats ok. I actually find having chips completely disable yield a better w/GHs. Only let the coolest chips work at their best efficiency is the way to go. I also have another idea, but i dont have time to play. I'm sure it will work even better based on my calculation: Remove all the boards ( i dont know if we can remove the mainboard from the controller, can SP confirm this? are they soldered together? they're looked like the pins are very strong) Get a small fish tank and dump them in mineral oils. you have to space all the motherboard tightly together with no gap. Its required for flow balancing. Use a centrifugal drive pump, inlet and outlet from each end and a alu car radiator. You got the idea...etc |
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ZiG
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October 26, 2014, 11:08:12 PM |
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27-th of October 2014 ...already in Israel...last week of October...FACT...  Is SP20 shipping...maybe in volume...  Cheers, ZiG |
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DevonMiner
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October 26, 2014, 11:17:06 PM |
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27-th of October 2014 ...already in Israel...last week of October...FACT... Is SP20 shipping...maybe in volume... Cheers, ZiG - SP20 and SP31 will be shipped next week
- Spec update early next week, I'm waiting for SP35 build and test.
Machines are on their way this week, Sponds always leaves it till the last few days, that is their way, but always deliver. |
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ZiG
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October 27, 2014, 02:46:02 AM |
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27-th of October 2014 ...already in Israel...last week of October...FACT... Is SP20 shipping...maybe in volume... Cheers, ZiG - SP20 and SP31 will be shipped next week
- Spec update early next week, I'm waiting for SP35 build and test.
Machines are on their way this week, Sponds always leaves it till the last few days, that is their way, but always deliver. I am NOT asking what WILL BE ...I am asking if the SP20 IS shipping...if NOT ...when...Capisco... ZiG |
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zvisha
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October 27, 2014, 12:26:11 PM |
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EDIT: btw can you add an option to be able to disable each chip? I just figured out how to get below 0.65w/GHs but the hashrate is dropping in/out due to some chips die/come back. I will post back the result to show others how. Share you method. Have you lowered the voltage or limited the PSU max power? If it's either of the methods have you tried the other one? Its involved alot of work so i spent basically all this weekend. Its not done as i need a software solution to disable some chips. I really hope Zvisha can update firmware to tune them better( downclock or disable chips with high temp) First, i removed all the 6 tiny fans, these are like 8watt each (the loudest fans i've ever heard). Stacking all the miners with some pink foam as spacer i use Nidec 120mmx38mm fans at the back (0.8A) for a total of 9 fans for 8 SP10s. For anyone with just 1 SP10, you can get away with only 2x120 Nidec fans . These are server fans, not your consumer cooling fans. They're strong yet not as high-pitched loud. I actually removed all the tiny fans when i collocated the SP10s with special ducting work, so i already got this step done. Since i now gonna host them in at my office closet, i use the 120mm fans Second, my setting is : Fan: 40% ( the minimum setting by default but i feel this does not control PSU fans as i thought, zvi, can we control the PSU fan?) start voltage: 0.585v Max voltage: 0.595v Max power consumption: 700w. All this got me: 600-640w at 920GHs-1000GHs. BUT i'm gonna see if i can physically KILL some chips as i dont have a software option. Reason you need to do this is because some chips will get way too hot and they throttles the whole miner. Since you removed the tiny fans, some chips will get alot hotter due to not having balanced air flow. Thats ok. I actually find having chips completely disable yield a better w/GHs. Only let the coolest chips work at their best efficiency is the way to go. I also have another idea, but i dont have time to play. I'm sure it will work even better based on my calculation: Remove all the boards ( i dont know if we can remove the mainboard from the controller, can SP confirm this? are they soldered together? they're looked like the pins are very strong) Get a small fish tank and dump them in mineral oils. you have to space all the motherboard tightly together with no gap. Its required for flow balancing. Use a centrifugal drive pump, inlet and outlet from each end and a alu car radiator. You got the idea...etc You can not control PSU fan  |
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wpgdeez
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October 27, 2014, 01:18:07 PM |
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27-th of October 2014 ...already in Israel...last week of October...FACT... Is SP20 shipping...maybe in volume... Cheers, ZiG - SP20 and SP31 will be shipped next week
- Spec update early next week, I'm waiting for SP35 build and test.
Machines are on their way this week, Sponds always leaves it till the last few days, that is their way, but always deliver. I am NOT asking what WILL BE ...I am asking if the SP20 IS shipping...if NOT ...when...Capisco... ZiG Nice to see your valid question ignored. |
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wanna4fun
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October 27, 2014, 08:55:48 PM |
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one my psu is dead (the guy who power cycle the rig said that the PSU threw spark out of the fan ) There is no more support for this SP-10 now. Can SP-T tell me what's the PSU model I shall buy ? Can you send a fresh new one ? Btw, any news about the compensation plan ? i have no news since last week.... |
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Hillbilly
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October 28, 2014, 01:30:31 PM |
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Btw, any news about the compensation plan ? i have no news since last week....
Yeah, I am getting the run around on compensation also, got told my wire directions were rejected/incomplete even though I had my bank fill out the questioner. September batch didn't go online until October 1, no web interface for hosted unit (need to email support for pool change). spotty CS (they may or may not reply depending on the day), all in all not a happy customer. |
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promojo
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October 28, 2014, 02:49:18 PM |
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HELLO - October 28th 2014.
When are we expecting SP31 to ship? Was one of the first orders (or close to) of October batch 1 - Still no email notification. Please advise. Thank You.
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October 28, 2014, 04:36:15 PM |
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HELLO - October 28th 2014.
When are we expecting SP31 to ship? Was one of the first orders (or close to) of October batch 1 - Still no email notification. Please advise. Thank You.
Same issue; I've no email notification yet. |
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mmeijeri
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October 28, 2014, 05:22:28 PM |
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The only reason why immersion cooling is cheaper than air cooling ist because of scale. When you put many units into these tanks, less liquid is needed and at some point the liquid becomes cheaper than buying heatsinks and fans for your units.
Doesn't immersion cooling also allow you to overclock your hardware? As for filling the tank, you can always use spacers. Is Spondoolies planning a form factor that is suitable for high-density immersion cooling? |
ROI is not a verb, the term you're looking for is 'to break even'.
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Koontas
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October 28, 2014, 05:49:31 PM |
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THERE ARE NOW 3 DAYS LEFT IN OCTOBER AND AS USUAL, NO CONSISTENT UPDATES FROM SPONDOOLIES.
AGAIN I ASK, HOW HARD IS IT TO SIGN ON TO BITCOINTALK AND TYPE A 50 WORD POST GIVING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING YOUR BILLS AND SUPPORTING YOUR FAMILIES AN UPDATE?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE TO BEG AND PLEAD FOR A SIMPLE UPDATE AND SOME INFORMATION, THIS IS NOT HOW GOOD BUSINESS RUN.
IT'S ALSO REALLY SHITTY SPONDOOLIES MINES WITH OUR EQUIPMENT UP UNTIL THE VERY LAST DAY (WE'LL SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY DO SHIP). I HIGHLY DOUBT THEY'VE RECEIVED THEM FROM THE MANUFACTURER THIS WEEK AND TURN THEM AROUND, I'D BET THE'VE BEEN THERE AT LEAST A MONTH...
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Guy Corem (OP)
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October 28, 2014, 05:53:10 PM |
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Hi All,
Final and exact numbers for the SP31, SP35 and SP20 will be released tomorrow.
Shipping of the SP31 will begin tomorrow morning as well. As this is much smaller batch than previous ones there will not be any issues shipping the entire batch within the promised time frame.
The SP20s are also expected to be shipped in time. Should there be any issues with shipping in time we will compensate.
We appreciate your patience and apologize for the slow responses,
Gadi
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Koontas
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October 28, 2014, 05:55:00 PM |
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Hi All,
Final and exact numbers for the SP31, SP35 and SP20 will be released tomorrow.
Shipping of the SP31 will begin tomorrow morning as well. As this is much smaller batch than previous ones there will not be any issues shipping the entire batch within the promised time frame.
The SP20s are also expected to be shipped in time. Should there be any issues with shipping in time we will compensate.
We appreciate your patience and apologize for the slow responses,
Gadi
Time to dust them off and box them back up! What a bunch of bullshit. We all know "compensation" never arrives. Look at the complaints above. Just ship the shit out already and quit playing us for fools. |
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Guy Corem (OP)
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October 28, 2014, 05:55:38 PM |
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THERE ARE NOW 3 DAYS LEFT IN OCTOBER AND AS USUAL, NO CONSISTENT UPDATES FROM SPONDOOLIES.
AGAIN I ASK, HOW HARD IS IT TO SIGN ON TO BITCOINTALK AND TYPE A 50 WORD POST GIVING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING YOUR BILLS AND SUPPORTING YOUR FAMILIES AN UPDATE?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE TO BEG AND PLEAD FOR A SIMPLE UPDATE AND SOME INFORMATION, THIS IS NOT HOW GOOD BUSINESS RUN.
IT'S ALSO REALLY SHITTY SPONDOOLIES MINES WITH OUR EQUIPMENT UP UNTIL THE VERY LAST DAY (WE'LL SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY DO SHIP). I HIGHLY DOUBT THEY'VE RECEIVED THEM FROM THE MANUFACTURER THIS WEEK AND TURN THEM AROUND, I'D BET THE'VE BEEN THERE AT LEAST A MONTH...
Sorry for the slow responses Koontas. We are as always shipping brand new units within the promised time frame |
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