Coronavirus Outbreak

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@anonymint recently sent me these links with some pretty important info:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8587#comment-2374154

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg54010009#msg54010009

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8587#comment-2374231

Here's his blog post about the virus. He may have went a little off-the-rails with it:

https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@anonymint/diabolical-mers-derived-chimera-coronavirus-masquerading-as-the-common-cold

[Tash]

SARS-CoV-2 virus, about 50 countries have not reported any infections
Of the Infected, 69 Countries have no death or recovery reported
28 have reported no-one died from COVID-19 so far
20 have more deaths as recovered
Data from Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE)
* Health expenditure of GDP in 2016.  The winner was Monaco with 1.75%   Source
Dont get sick in Netherlands, France or US

-----------------	Deaths	Rec.	Death/Rec.		GDP *
Singapore	0	97	0,00%		4,47%
Bahrain	0	44	0,00%		4,87%
Malaysia	0	26	0,00%		3,80%
UAE	0	17	0,00%		3,52%
Vietnam	0	16	0,00%		5,66%
Oman	0	9	0,00%		4,29%
Romania	0	7	0,00%		4,98%
Kuwait	0	5	0,00%		3,90%
Mexico	0	4	0,00%		5,47%
Israel	0	4	0,00%		7,31%
Russia	0	3	0,00%		5,27%
Belarus	0	3	0,00%		6,32%
Pakistan	0	2	0,00%		2,75%
Sri Lanka	0	1	0,00%		3,89%
Jordan	0	1	0,00%		5,47%
SaudiArabia	0	1	0,00%		5,74%
Cambodia	0	1	0,00%		6,08%
Latvia	0	1	0,00%		6,24%
Nepal	0	1	0,00%		6,29%
N.Macedonia	0	1	0,00%		6,34%
Croatia	0	1	0,00%		7,18%
Hungary	0	1	0,00%		7,36%
Iceland	0	1	0,00%		8,29%
Portugal	0	1	0,00%		9,08%
Malta	0	1	0,00%		9,30%
Finland	0	1	0,00%		9,49%
Denmark	0	1	0,00%		10,35%
Andorra	0	1	0,00%		10,37%
Cruise Ship	7	325	2,15%		-
Thailand	1	35	2,86%		3,71%
China	3193	65634	4,86%		4,98%
Taiwan	1	20	5,00%		6,20%
Egypt	2	27	7,41%		4,64%
Canada	1	8	12,50%		10,53%
Australia	3	23	13,04%		9,25%
Korea,	72	510	14,12%		7,34%
Austria	1	6	16,67%		10,44%
Iran	514	2959	17,37%		8,10%
Germany	8	46	17,39%		11,14%
Japan	21	118	17,80%		10,93%
Algeria	2	8	25,00%		6,65%
Azerbaijan	1	3	33,33%		6,89%
Iraq	9	24	37,50%		3,31%
UK	8	19	42,11%		9,76%
India	2	4	50,00%		3,66%
Spain	133	193	68,91%		8,97%
Italy	1266	1439	87,98%		8,94%
Morocco	1	1	100,00%		5,84%
Norway	1	1	100,00%		10,50%
Sweden	1	1	100,00%		10,93%
Indonesia	4	2	200,00%		3,12%
Argentina	2	1	200,00%		7,55%
San Marino	5	2	250,00%		6,40%
Switzerland	11	4	275,00%		12,25%
Philippines	6	2	300,00%		4,39%
Lebanon	3	1	300,00%		8,02%
Belgium	3	1	300,00%		10,04%
US	47	12	391,67%		17,07%
France	79	12	658,33%		11,54%
Guyana	1	0,1#	1000,00%		4,24%
Sudan	1	0,1#	1000,00%		5,66%
Albania	1	0,1#	1000,00%		6,70%
Ukraine	1	0,1#	1000,00%		6,73%
Panama	1	0,1#	1000,00%		7,26%
Ireland	1	0,1#	1000,00%		7,38%
Bulgaria	1	0,1#	1000,00%		8,23%
Ecuador	1	0,1#	1000,00%		8,39%
Greece	1	0,1#	1000,00%		8,45%
Poland	2	0,1#	2000,00%		6,52%
Netherlands	10	0,1#	10000,00%		10,36%

# Lets give some credit and assume some partially recovered to get past div 0

[TECSHARE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTZEhFTQxPc

[techbill]

I'm here, it's too late...
I was created in Wuhan Institute of Virology as a secret bio-weapon but I managed to escape (Chinese filters, you know), now I'm coming for you.
See you soon 

A bit too cringie.

[Tash]

74 Countries who have infected have not reported any death or recovered
33 have reported no-one died from COVID-19 so far (combined 327 recoved)
22 more have died as recovered to this day
Data from Worldometer
* Health expenditure of GDP in 2016.  The winner was Monaco with 1.75%   Source
Average age of the death in Italy is 80,3 and 84,2 (male, female)
Percentage terms France, Netherlands, Belgium are worst affected. The old Cruise Ship Passanger recover at a good rate.

-----------------	Deaths	Rec.	Death/Rec.		GDP *
Singapore		105	0,00%		4,47%
Bahrain		60	0,00%		4,87%
Malaysia		35	0,00%		3,80%
UAE		20	0,00%		3,52%
Vietnam		16	0,00%		5,66%
Macao		10	0,00%		4,98%
Finland		10	0,00%		9,49%
Oman		9	0,00%		4,29%
Romania		9	0,00%		4,98%
Russia		8	0,00%		5,27%
Kuwait		7	0,00%		3,90%
Qatar		4	0,00%		3,08%
Mexico		4	0,00%		5,47%
Israel		4	0,00%		7,31%
Belarus		3	0,00%		6,32%
Bangladesh		2	0,00%		2,36%
Pakistan		2	0,00%		2,75%
Senegal		2	0,00%		5,51%
Croatia		2	0,00%		7,18%
Portugal		2	0,00%		9,08%
Nigeria		1	0,00%		3,65%
Sri Lanka		1	0,00%		3,89%
Jordan		1	0,00%		5,47%
SaudiArabia		1	0,00%		5,74%
Cambodia		1	0,00%		6,08%
Latvia		1	0,00%		6,24%
Nepal		1	0,00%		6,29%
N Macedonia		1	0,00%		6,34%
Lithuania		1	0,00%		6,67%
Hungary		1	0,00%		7,36%
Malta		1	0,00%		9,30%
Gibraltar		1	0,00%		9,76%
Brazil		1	0,00%		11,77%
Diamond P	7	456	1,54%
Thailand	1	35	2,86%		3,71%
China	3199	66913	4,78%		4,98%
Hong Kong	4	81	4,94%		6,20%
Taiwan	1	20	5,00%		6,20%
Egypt	2	27	7,41%		4,64%
S. Korea	75	834	8,99%		7,34%
Canada	1	11	9,09%		10,53%
Australia	3	27	11,11%		9,25%
Iran	611	4339	14,08%		8,10%
Japan	22	144	15,28%		10,93%
Azerbaijan	1	6	16,67%		6,89%
Austria	1	6	16,67%		10,44%
Germany	9	46	19,57%		11,14%
India	2	10	20,00%		3,66%
Poland	3	13	23,08%		6,52%
Algeria	3	10	30,00%		6,65%
Greece	3	8	37,50%		8,45%
Spain	196	517	37,91%		8,97%
Iraq	10	26	38,46%		3,31%
Indonesia	5	8	62,50%		3,12%
Italy	1441	1966	73,30%		8,94%
Morocco	1	1	100,00%		5,84%
Denmark	1	1	100,00%		10,35%
USA	60	56	107,14%		17,07%
UK	21	18	116,67%		9,76%
San Marino	5	4	125,00%		6,40%
Sweden	2	1	200,00%		10,93%
Lebanon	3	1	300,00%		8,02%
Norway	3	1	300,00%		10,50%
Switzerland	13	4	325,00%		12,25%
Philippines	8	2	400,00%		4,39%
Belgium	4	1	400,00%		10,04%
Netherlands	12	2	600,00%		10,36%
France	91	12	758,33%		11,54%
Guyana	1	0,1#	1000,00%		4,24%
Sudan	1	0,1#	1000,00%		5,66%
Luxembourg	1	0,1#	1000,00%		6,16%
Albania	1	0,1#	1000,00%		6,70%
Ukraine	1	0,1#	1000,00%		6,73%
Panama	1	0,1#	1000,00%		7,26%
Slovenia	1	0,1#	1000,00%		8,47%
Ireland	2	0,1#	2000,00%		7,38%
Argentina	2	0,1#	2000,00%		7,55%
Bulgaria	2	0,1#	2000,00%		8,23%
Ecuador	2	0,1#	2000,00%		8,39%

# Lets give some credit and assume some partially recovered to get past div 0

[Naida_BR]

^^ I can see that the European countries have started to report deaths and infections now.
The virus is now established there. I wonder how the UK is going to tackle the virus as they take a whole different public health strategy.

[TECSHARE]

"China’s State-Run Media Hints Regime Could Cut Off Medications To U.S., Plunge America Into ‘Mighty Sea Of Coronavirus’ "

http://www.stationgossip.com/2020/03/chinas-state-run-media-hints-regime.html


"Medical Expert: “There Are Probably 25 To 50 People Who Have The Virus For Every One Person Who Is Confirmed”"

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/medical-expert-there-are-probably-25-to-50-people-who-have-the-virus-for-every-one-person-who-is-confirmed

[af_newbie]

"China’s State-Run Media Hints Regime Could Cut Off Medications To U.S., Plunge America Into ‘Mighty Sea Of Coronavirus’ "

http://www.stationgossip.com/2020/03/chinas-state-run-media-hints-regime.html
...

I think this pandemic will be a wake-up call to all military planners.
 

[Tash]

"China’s State-Run Media Hints Regime Could Cut Off Medications To U.S., Plunge America Into ‘Mighty Sea Of Coronavirus’ "

http://www.stationgossip.com/2020/03/chinas-state-run-media-hints-regime.html
...

I think this pandemic will be a wake-up call to all military planners.
 

People are so clueless, phenomenal. Stock up on tp because some virus flips mostly the very old to other side.

[BADecker]

^^^ Here in Arizona we can easily make TP out of prickly pear cactus.

 

[nullius]

People are panicking about this to an unbelievable extent. It's a bad disease, to be sure, and some precautions should be taken, but it's not worth

Nothing is worth panic.  Death itself is not cause for panic.  And nothing is worth this!

I drafted this yesterday evening, offline.  Funny to see you telling people not to panic.  Edit:  And I somehow didn’t notice that I was replying to a post three days old. :-/

...he has declared that coronavirus is “The End of the World”—quote-unquote; his words. [...]

MAN UP.  OR SHUT UP.

(I told him that straight, then had a calm and productive discussion with his wife.)

(I recently had all of the symptoms of the virus. I wonder if I had it, or if it was just the ordinary flu. It was very unpleasant, though I got over it in a few days.)

Whatever it was, I am glad you’re ok.

I have been unable to find reliable information on whether surviving a coronavirus infection confers lasting immunity, and to what degree.  It seems to be a yet unsettled question.

[fillippone]

Niche thread.
Posting here my last post about it in the WO:

What's it like under lockdown? Are there shortages of things in the shops when you go out to buy food?

First define lockdown.
You are not allowed to exit apart for going to work and groceries (supermarkets are open).
You have to carry a piece of paper to exhibit to the police in case they stop you (typical italian: more laws, more piece of paper, no substantial controls).
Shops, restaurants, museums, basically everything but supermarkets is closed.

You stay at home.
Many can work from home, many firm closed and laid staff on vacation, of course many already lost the job or are close to.
How to spend day at home is basically your choice, but I know people with kids who are losing their minds.

Main practical problem is going to the shops.
Of course we shop online, but the infrastructure is of course not ready to absorb such a demand: every major store provide online shopping and front door delivery, but where I live the available windows (two weeks) are already fully booked. For every different shop (I tried, everyone has).
Bear in mind that if an infected person is found on a logistical center, they have to shut it down, sanitise it and then reopen. Only to close it a few hour later when another one is tested positive. A logistical nightmare.
So you go shopping to the brick and mortar shop: it's a mess because you cannot simply go in: as a security measure only one few person can enter, so access is reduced, hence big queues. Also while queuing you must stay  distant. Result are very long queues outside food supermarkets (in a sense , now I understand those who raided shelves a few weeks back).
This is easy, I do feel not comfortable queuing with other people, but I can do and it's a minor hassle.
Who is quarantined (cannot go outside the house because exposed to the virus), well that's a totally different situation. I don't know how they can survive if there is not anyone providing them food from the shop as also this is forbid to them .

LATER EDIT:
Just an idea of the queues
https://vm.tiktok.com/pa7gpD/

No idea where it is taken.
I live in a city, similar queues, little bit less daunting scenario.


In the italian board there is a guy whose mother is in the hospital, so he's quarantined and he's describing the whole situation, he's keeping a little diary.
You can read if you want, no scary or gruesome details.

 

[OutOfMemory]

^^ I can see that the European countries have started to report deaths and infections now.
The virus is now established there. I wonder how the UK is going to tackle the virus as they take a whole different public health strategy.

The virus was established already some weeks ago, thanks to international traveling and tourism.
We'll see how the UK does with that pretty soon, i guess. The real question is: What do they really try to accomplish with their strategy.
Every other european country tries to slow down the infection rates and support the national healthcare system/infrastructure to avoid more economic damage than by just waiting it out (as they did before).

[nullius]

What's it like under lockdown? Are there shortages of things in the shops when you go out to buy food?

First define lockdown.
You are not allowed to exit apart for going to work and groceries (supermarkets are open).
You have to carry a piece of paper to exhibit to the police in case they stop you (typical italian: more laws, more piece of paper, no substantial controls). [...]

fillippone, thank you for the ground report of conditions in your country.

FYI, this was totally hypothetical:

• ✔ Government control of food supplies
• ✔ Government control of both local and long-distance travel
• ✔ Arbitrary lockdowns
• ✔ Direct government control of each individual’s body, under the rubric of e.g. “healthcare”
• ✔ Arbitrary, peremptory government orders of any kind whatsoever
• Total government control of communications^*

(* In my nightmare, this has not yet started; thus, I would still be able to post this message.  The worst part of my nightmare is when I discover that dissent is so marginal amidst the mass-panic, the government finds it unnecessary to control communications.)

My best wishes for your survival.  (And I am not only, or even primarily speaking of the virus.  Well, that, too.)

[Tash]

No-one can run away from day x, just a fakt.
Everyone runs in circles for some lousy virus which more or less is on par with a flu, and was in planning for a long time.
Deagles webside been up for a long time
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229135.msg54033263#msg54033263
very early but certain countries fair worse than others
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg54030813#msg54030813

Video is 10 years old, explains events
https://youtu.be/rw4z-rSwNjY?t=881
is available with lots of subtitels, select flag
http://projectavalon.net/

No.one knows, but unexplained things do happen, 7 Buoys MYSTERIOUSLY Activate Into "Event Mode"
https://youtu.be/ZiRpz5lqD80

On that note
https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc


Edit:
When the journey comes to an end and its time to visit the other side, (graphic)
https://youtu.be/sAx21NK6s8s?t=435

[rdbase]

A post from the mining topic. In which I think could prove vital towards those who actually want to help in this dire situation. For anyone whose lives have been affected due to this strain of sars, h1n1, corona or any other viruses that may come out of this one in the future:
*Important* GPU's power request to help fight COVID-19
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233075
Nvidia had the platform already put in place months ago trying to get people to mine in trade for downloadable games and whatever swag they had offered to them.

[PrimeNumber7]

Watching the Democratic debate and Joe Biden is referring to battling the coronavirus a “war”. Brian Mohnihan, CEO of BOA, described the coronavirus crisis as a “war”. Israel PM Netanyahu said his country is at “war” with an invisible enemy, the coronavirus.

I am curious if Trump or other world leaders will describe the coronavirus situation as a “war” and if so, will any country declare war against the coronavirus.

[nullius]

Watching the Democratic debate and Joe Biden is referring to battling the coronavirus a “war”. Brian Mohnihan, CEO of BOA, described the coronavirus crisis as a “war”. Israel PM Netanyahu said his country is at “war” with an invisible enemy, the coronavirus.

I am curious if Trump or other world leaders will describe the coronavirus situation as a “war” and if so, will any country declare war against the coronavirus.

War on an emotion must have lost its oomph.

If the war ostensibly waged on the emotion had the proximate effect of increasing that emotion, what will the War on Plague do?

I would suggest upgrading to a War on War; but Woodrow Wilson already did that, with the War to End Wars!  Didn’t you hear:  War was eternally defeated 101 years ago.  Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty could well be interpreted as a War on Famine; victory has been achieved there, too.  Now, all we need is a War on Death!  Made in America (so stated with the understanding that not all individual Americans are so fortunate as to be grateful for their government’s wise policies).

[franky1]

the political use of 'war' has always been over used

war is a significant conflict of groups of people opposed to another group of people by use of armed weapons

when its a task of getting its own people to hide away and isolate themselves to avoid getting harmed.  thats more of a retreat

..
as for other overuses.. war on drugs was more of a term like prohibition

[PrimeNumber7]

Watching the Democratic debate and Joe Biden is referring to battling the coronavirus a “war”. Brian Mohnihan, CEO of BOA, described the coronavirus crisis as a “war”. Israel PM Netanyahu said his country is at “war” with an invisible enemy, the coronavirus.

I am curious if Trump or other world leaders will describe the coronavirus situation as a “war” and if so, will any country declare war against the coronavirus.

War on an emotion must have lost its oomph.

If the war ostensibly waged on the emotion had the proximate effect of increasing that emotion, what will the War on Plague do?

(I would suggest upgrading to a War on Wars; but Wilson already did that, with the War to End Wars!)

Declaring War on the coronavirus would be largely symbolic, although it may make China and the CCP uncomfortable. It could allow countries to take over factories to produce certain goods (I don’t think this is needed right now, but it may be if there is a shortage of medicines and antibiotics). It would also send a signal to citizens as to how serious the situation is to get citizens to adhere to recommendations that should help slow the spread of the virus.

OT/ some argue that the Cold War was actually WW3. There were a number of proxy wars during the Cold War so that no two nuclear powers were fighting each other and there was the arms race.