Coronavirus Outbreak

[TECSHARE]

Scientists conclude people cannot get coronavirus twice

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/scientists-conclude-people-cannot-get-coronavirus-twice/ar-BB13tl0D?



"Unemployment Kills: The Longer Lockdowns Last, the Worse It Will Get"

https://mises.org/wire/unemployment-kills-longer-lockdowns-last-worse-it-will-get



"Provisional Death Counts of Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), Pneumonia, or Influenza by week, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 4/11/2020."

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/Provisional-Death-Counts-COVID-19-Pneumonia-and-Influenza.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/



"What is going on in Malaysia? Lockdown suddenly lifted and volunteering for vaccines."

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/what-is-going-on-in-malaysia-lockdown-suddenly-lifted-and-volunteering-for-vaccines/



"South Dakota Considers First State Bill To Outlaw All Vaccine AND Medical Mandates"

https://sdlegislature.gov/Legislative_Session/Bills/Bill.aspx?File=HB1235P.html&Session=2020&Version=Introduced&Bill=1235

[franky1]

Here is the interview Pompeo did with ABC today - https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/secretary-state-mike-pompeo-70478299

yet he debunks himself in that video.
the reporter says that the National intelliagence agency and scientists concur that it was not man made from a lab.. and pompeo then says he agrees with their statement.

but then goes out on some racial blast about 'communist party'
seems racial hatred 'trumps' science in us government

maybe stick to science or trumpwill incite war with no evidence..

look i know trump doesnt want to take the blame for a multi trillion dollar debt caused by him letting in passengers into america and not screening them and then not preparing for 3 months. but he did.
anything that occured after january 7th is on trump. and trump alone
anything that happened within america in january is on trump

i know he wants to pass off the debt to china to pay in sanctions. but trump has no evidence. only racial hate feelings.

sorry trump. but if your the top guy of a country you have to take responsibility for what happened in your country
..
as for the stuff about china keeping it secret. sorry but no. december 31st-january9th there is actual evidence of information passing. and the world finding out

seeing as the first case china had was december 18th. and knowing how some tests and realisations that its not an isolated case take weeks (due to it requiring more people turning up) i can see why they were not even sure until near the end of december.
they had to make sure and rule out other causes. do tests and also contact trace if there were any connections between people as they started turning up in that fortnight starting december 18th
..
i can already predict america's next rhetoric/racial finger point. by saying although the december 18th case and other cases after sow transparency and not actually able to make a determined cause until december 31st. america will just say that december 18ths patient was not patient zero and how china must have been hiding it for months prior.

yet no actual evidence of that.

as for saying how america is blaming china for lack of supplies in american medical warehouses.
america should always have kept a stockpile anyway. but budget cuts made america cutback on stocks. budget cuts made america not bother responding in january/february/march
americas lack of action in january/feb/march is americas own cause

Scientists conclude people cannot get coronavirus twice

"Provisional Death Counts of Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), Pneumonia, or Influenza by week, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 4/11/2020."
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

1. what needs to be highlighted is there is a difference between 'reinfected' and 'reactivated'
reactivated is the virus attacking the body. but then also laying dormant to attack it again while patient is recovering(2 hits in small time period)

this is not the case. covid does not reactivate.
however when it comes to the antibodies. its still unsure how long antibodies remain programmed to fight it off in future. meaning antibodies can forget about covid after a few months or a year or 5 years. meaning if someone gets it the antibody wont know what to do again and will go into high immuno response of causing distress.
scientists just dont know how long immunity lasts

2. though numbers need updating. the most compelling is the week ending 4th of april which shows ~8k JUST COVID(u07.1 alone) which when checking worldometer's numbers for that week. it tallies
as does the weeks prior
week ending 11th april still need to collate data
which also funnily enough wipes out all the conspiracy theories of 'all deaths are covid' as those numbers are separate and still existent

to explain better
the worldometer numbers a close tally of for example 4/4/2020:8082(left column)
however where its 'suspected/untested' + covid which puts numbers at 4/4/2020: 13148 (right column)
worldometer/media are not reporting tallies of the 13k that week but are reporting tallys of ~8k that week

oh and all causes was 64k. which debunks the whole 'road traffic accidents are covid'
because the numbers published showed 8k not 13k not 64k

have a nice day

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[BADecker]

Scientists conclude people cannot get coronavirus twice

"Provisional Death Counts of Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), Pneumonia, or Influenza by week, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 4/11/2020."
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

1. what needs to be highlighted is there is a difference between 'reinfected' and 'reactivated'
reactivated is the virus attacking the body. but then also laying dormant to attack it again while patient is recovering(2 hits in small time period)

this is not the case. covid does not reactivate.
however when it comes to the antibodies. its still unsure how long antibodies remain programmed to fight it off in future. meaning antibodies can forget about covid after a few months or a year or 5 years. meaning if someone gets it the antibody wont know what to do again and will go into high immuno response of causing distress.
scientists just dont know how long immunity lasts

2. though numbers need updating. the most compelling is the week ending 4th of april which shows ~8k JUST COVID(u07.1 alone) which when checking worldometer's numbers for that week. it tallies
as does the weeks prior
week ending 11th april still need to collate data
which also funnily enough wipes out all the conspiracy theories of 'all deaths are covid' as those numbers are separate and still existent

to explain better
the worldometer numbers a close tally of for example 4/4/2020:8082(left column)
however where its 'suspected/untested' + covid which puts numbers at 4/4/2020: 13148 (right column)
worldometer/media are not reporting tallies of the 13k that week but are reporting tallys of ~8k that week

oh and all causes was 64k. which debunks the whole 'road traffic accidents are covid'
because the numbers published showed 8k not 13k not 64k

have a nice day

Something like 84.2% - or was it 82.4% - of all statistics are made up on the spot.

The medical is different. They twist and skew their statistics depending on the kind of impression they want to make on naive minds.

Got any proof that Worldometer numbers are anywhere near accurate?

[Gyfts]

Here is the interview Pompeo did with ABC today - https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/secretary-state-mike-pompeo-70478299

yet he debunks himself in that video.
the reporter says that the National intelliagence agency and scientists concur that it was not man made from a lab.. and pompeo then says he agrees with their statement.

He did contradict himself but that doesn't change the fact that it originated in the Wuhan lab. It could have been a naturally occurring disease that was released to the public due to irresponsible research. Alternatively, it could also have been human modified to increase virulence which ended up escaping the lab.

[Tash]

Covid and pulmonary tuberculosis
https://coronacircus.com/2020/05/03/coronacircus-revisionism-chapter-three-pulmonary-tuberculosis/

Way, way scarier than the covid dis-ease is the science denying dills running around in full sunlight with the face muzzle.
Every modern dentist, doctor surgery.... has sterilizing UV light (260 nm) which is also part of the sunbeams frequency.
Imagine if that would not work, every kind of infection, bacteria, virus, fungus... from patients before now in direct contact with open wound.
When did people become this retarded?

[TECSHARE]

"Funeral Directors in COVID-19 Epicenter Doubt Legitimacy of Deaths Attributed to Pandemic, Fear Numbers are 'Padded'"

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-funeral-directors-in-covid-19-epicenter-doubt-legitimacy-of-deaths/



"Cities face 100 million 'new poor' in post-pandemic world - experts"

https://news.trust.org/item/20200429221810-qcmga



"UN: Acute Food Shortages Worldwide May Double Due to COVID-19"

https://www.ecowatch.com/un-food-shortages-coronavirus-2645785865.html

[BADecker]

Here is the interview Pompeo did with ABC today - https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/secretary-state-mike-pompeo-70478299

yet he debunks himself in that video.
the reporter says that the National intelliagence agency and scientists concur that it was not man made from a lab.. and pompeo then says he agrees with their statement.

He did contradict himself but that doesn't change the fact that it originated in the Wuhan lab. It could have been a naturally occurring disease that was released to the public due to irresponsible research. Alternatively, it could also have been human modified to increase virulence which ended up escaping the lab.

The thing about the virus that came from the Wuhan lab, is that it is a virus of trickery... not a standard RNA-type virus. The proof of this lies in the fact that the lab people haven't shown any proof that they did the actual experimentation that is required to show a virus. Watch the last ten minutes of, Dr Andrew Kaufman exposing the 'Covid-19' magic trick - the sleight of hand that transformed society - https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/.

The lies are the virus. The lies are called Covid-19.

[franky1]

badecker your insane i already debunked your kosh/rivers postulum.
they have actually fulfilled all the science requirements

you even admitted you had no clue what kosh/rivers postulum was about.
you then said kosh rivers postulum was outdated postulum and meaningless once you realise that it actually debunks your narrative

and now your here again promoting it
idiot

they studied the virus, they got samples of the virus, they incubated it in a culture, they then injected it into animals and those animals got sick. they then tested the animals and the animals had the same viral rna as the humans who were sick. which means the virus caused it

it passed kosh/rivers postulum.
you been told this already.

also many hospitals in many countries with many patients who have the same symptoms are tested and they all had the same viral rna. double proving the cause and double proving its not an isolated case

idiot..

[TECSHARE]

"Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLi6ZrFp6vQ

[BADecker]

badecker your insane i already debunked your kosh/rivers postulum.
they have actually fulfilled all the science requirements

F-1, you are completely insane. Why do you think that I own or even have any "kosh/rivers postulum." I don't think anybody even knows what you are talking about when you post this kind of thing.

When you say that somebody has fulfilled any sequencing requirements, you might as well be talking about a butcher in his butcher shop.Sequencing doesn't matter when it doesn't prove anything. So, lets see the sequencing postulates these butchers of yours used to do the sequencing that you said they did.

Come on. This should be an easy thing for you, since you are right inside the medical field where it is done, right? Prove you aren't a fake. Show a record, the postulates used, and how the of the postulates proved a specific sequencing.

We want to know how anybody knows that it absolutely was and is Covid-19. After all, anybody can say, "It's Covid-19." See how easy that was? Watch this: "It's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19." But I can't prove it, easy as it was to post it.

So show us the proof.

[franky1]

badecker your insane i already debunked your kosh/rivers postulum.
they have actually fulfilled all the science requirements

F-1, you are completely insane. Why do you think that I own or even have any "kosh/rivers postulum." I don't think anybody even knows what you are talking about when you post this kind of thing.

you are the idiot that linked videos talking about kosh postulum.. yes YOU. kosh didnt link it to the forum. YOU did
YOU said it was proof that covid doesnt exist. YOU. not kosh. YOU

trying to shift the blame to kosh. even though kosh didnt post it and kosh isnt even alive. means the only person to blame in this forum for suggesting it disproves covid is .. YOU
because YOU said it disproves covid in this forum.
and you have been proved wrong

i corrected YOU by explaining kosh postulum and how it actually proves its real because scientists actually passed the kosh points

i know YOU then realised your failing. and i know YOU want to backtrack and pretend YOU had no clue and YOU had no idea what it is and pretend you didnt link it.
but YOU did. and YOUR ignorance cant hide it from reality even if YOU want to hide it from yourself

and thats what makes you an idiot

[BADecker]

badecker your insane i already debunked your kosh/rivers postulum.
they have actually fulfilled all the science requirements

F-1, you are completely insane. Why do you think that I own or even have any "kosh/rivers postulum." I don't think anybody even knows what you are talking about when you post this kind of thing.

you are the idiot that linked videos talking about kosh postulum.. yes YOU. kosh didnt link it to the forum. YOU did
YOU said it was proof that covid doesnt exist. YOU. not kosh. YOU

i corrected YOU by explaining kosh postulum and how it actually proves its real because scientists actually passed the kosh points

i know YOU then realised your failing. and i know YOU want to backtrack and pretend YOU had no clue and YOU had no idea what it is and pretend you didnt link it.
but YOU did. and YOUR ignorance cant hide it from reality even if YOU want to hide it from yourself

and thats what makes you an idiot
tying to shift the post to blame kosh. even though kosh didnt post it and kosh isnt even alive. means the only person to blame for suggesting it disproves covid is .. YOU
because YOU said it disproves covid. and you are wrong

F-1, you are soooo fun to play with. Oh, btw, you forgot to mention any videos that I linked. I mean, were you talking about the "posh kostulum" videos?   Do you really think that some joker named "kosh" - or was it "posh" - was going to link some videos in my post? You are so silly.

Who in the world is this "kosh/posh" you are yammering about? Or should I ask, what? Or is it "posh/kosh?" And what does "kostulum" mean?

I know I realize my failings. That's why I kinda laugh at you. You haven't a clue about my failings. And funnier, yet, you don't seem to have a clue about yours even more.

Do you remember that Nancy Drew book, "The Clue in the Old Stagecoach?" Didn't one of the printings of it say, "... Glue in the Old Stagecoach?"


Now, regarding CV rather than me, Rivers' revision of Koch's postulates is an upgrading of Koch's. They are a good enough revision that they should be used in determining if there is a virus or not.

But what is interesting is that nobody has used them. And although some have said that they have, their reports show that they haven't done anything more than talk about them.

What this means is that nobody has come close to showing proof for Coronavirus.


Hey, F-1. Have you found anybody who has listed the steps that they took in their quest for finding THE Virus, yet? Hey? You been drinking like Spendy again?

[TwitchySeal]

Man, I feel like we may have heard the last of Fauci.  The conspiracy theories started popping up a recently about him being a fraud (thanks for those TECSHARE) and he just publicly **gasp** sided with the science community over Trump in in the 'Covid-19 was man made' "debate".  5 eyes and a bunch of world leaders also think Trump is retarded and/or full of shit.


"Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab"
In an exclusive interview, the face of America’s COVID-19 response cautions against the rush for states to reopen, and offers his tips for handling the pandemic's information deluge.

Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday with National Geographic.

“If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] evolved in nature and then jumped species”

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/



"Five Eyes network contradicts theory Covid-19 leaked from lab"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/five-eyes-network-contradicts-theory-covid-19-leaked-from-lab



"Key U.S. Allies Skeptical of Trump’s Coronavirus Lab Leak Claims"

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-lab-leak-trump-five-eyes/

[TECSHARE]

Man, I feel like we may have heard the last of Fauci.  The conspiracy theories started popping up a recently about him being a fraud (thanks for those TECSHARE) and he just publicly **gasp** sided with the science community over Trump in in the 'Covid-19 was man made' "debate".  5 eyes and a bunch of world leaders also think Trump is retarded and/or full of shit.


"Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab"
In an exclusive interview, the face of America’s COVID-19 response cautions against the rush for states to reopen, and offers his tips for handling the pandemic's information deluge.

Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday with National Geographic.

“If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] evolved in nature and then jumped species”

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/



"Five Eyes network contradicts theory Covid-19 leaked from lab"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/five-eyes-network-contradicts-theory-covid-19-leaked-from-lab



"Key U.S. Allies Skeptical of Trump’s Coronavirus Lab Leak Claims"

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-lab-leak-trump-five-eyes/

As usual, you are optimally packed full of shit. Trump, nor anyone within the administration as far as I am aware has claimed the virus was man made. They did say it came from the lab in Wuhan, which doesn't exclude accidental or intentional leaks of a naturally evolved virus. Of course being the perpetual shit slinger you are, you conflate the two concepts to try to act like you have an argument in desperation as the facts start lining up against you, as usual. Fauci has a long history of conflicts of interest and fraud, but you know better and any sources I present are "conspiracy sites" thus can be summarily be dismissed by you without any review whatsoever. Your confirmation bias however does not magically make facts disappear.






"FBI Investigation Targeted Dr. Fauci but Comey Pulled the Plug, says Whistle-blower"

https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/05/fbi-investigation-targeted-dr-fauci-but-comey-pulled-the-plug-says-whistle-blower/



"Dr Buttar Accuses Fauci, Gates & The Media For Using COVID-19 To Drive Hidden Agenda"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbf9wccdxE



"Former AIDS Scientist Exposes Dr. Fauci’s Medical Corruption"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgnBldI7KPY



"New Coronavirus Emerges From Bats in China, Devastates Young Swine Identified in Same Region, from Same Bats, as SARS Coronavirus"

April 4, 2018

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/new-coronavirus-emerges-bats-china-devastates-young-swine




"Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab with Millions of U.S. Dollars for Risky Coronavirus Research"

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741



"The Truth About Fauci—Featuring Dr. Judy Mikovits"

"Video Transcript

The Truth About Fauci, featuring Judy Mikovits, Joint PhD in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, George Washington University; Postdoctoral Scholar in Molecular Virology National Cancer Institute; Research Director of Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease and target of Anthony Fauci—Twice.

In Washington DC Fauci’s tactics are an open secret. Intimidation. Bullying. And reckless disregard for the health and safety of the American people.

Dr. Judy Mikovits was one of the most skilled scientists of her generation. She had a 20-year collaboration with Frank Ruscetti, a pioneer in the field of human retro virology.
The first Fauci episode:

Mikovits: I took a job at the National Cancer Institute. I was under the direction of Frank Ruscetti. I isolated HIV from blood and saliva confirming Dr. Luc Montagnier’s earlier isolation and description of HIV as a possible causative agent of AIDS. I refused to do that because it’s unethical.

And then, Anthony Fauci intervened.

Mikovits: When Frank Ruscetti was out of town, I received a call from Dr. Fauci and he demanded that I give him our manuscript on the isolation and confirmation of HIV, while it was still in press. I refused to do that because it’s unethical. These manuscripts are confidential and only authors can give him a copy.

Dr. Mikovits’ standards of ethics and moral courage are unparalleled.

Mikovits: He threatened to fire me for insubordination but still I refused. It’s unethical.

Mikovits: When Frank Ruscetti returned a few weeks later, he gave the manuscript to Dr. Fauci, and Dr. Fauci purposely delayed the publication of our manuscript in order that his crony, Dr. Robert Gallo, could copy our work and submit a competing manuscript and get it into press before ours.

On May 4, 1984, Dr. Robert Gallo famously published a series of papers demonstrating that a retrovirus he’d isolated was the cause of AIDS.

Appropriating her work wasn’t the worst of it. This delayed the development of testing and spread the HIV epidemic through the world, killing millions.

Driven by greed and cronyism, Anthony Fauci—”America’s Doctor”—is directly responsible for the further spread of HIV throughout the world."


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/the-truth-about-fauci-featuring-dr-judy-mikovits/




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[TwitchySeal]

You're right, my bad.  'From the lab' doesn't necessarily mean man made.  He's already planted the seed that 'maybe china did it on purpose', so I feel like that's probably where this is going - but we aren't there yet.

[TECSHARE]

You're right, my bad.  'From the lab' doesn't necessarily mean man made.  He's already planted the seed that 'maybe china did it on purpose', so I feel like that's probably where this is going - but we aren't there yet.

They have already been proven to have hidden the scope of the outbreak while they simultaneously were buying up all the world's PPE so they could sell it back to them later. Accidental leak or not, natural or man made, it was used as a biological weapon against the rest of the world.

[TwitchySeal]

You're right, my bad.  'From the lab' doesn't necessarily mean man made.  He's already planted the seed that 'maybe china did it on purpose', so I feel like that's probably where this is going - but we aren't there yet.

They have already been proven to have hidden the scope of the outbreak while they simultaneously were buying up all the world's PPE so they could sell it back to them later. Accidental leak or not, natural or man made, it was used as a biological weapon against the rest of the world.

We can agree they definitely went out of their way to down play it early on (December/Early Jan).  But I think the most likely reason is the same reason the United States downplayed it in February - if you make a big deal about how bad it mightbe the economy would takes an instant hit guaranteed.  Act like it's no big deal and you might get lucky and be right.

Notice the dates of these 3 tweets:






What's more likely, China duped the America into thinking the virus was no big deal while we watched them lock down a city bigger than NYC and frantically build hospitals as fast as they could?  Or America did the same thing China did, play down the virus to avoid short term economic damage in hopes it would just 'go away...like a miracle'

[TECSHARE]

[Whatabout... whatabout...whatabout...]

This is a non sequitur. The premise is China used this as a biological weapon regardless of the virus origins. Furthermore, this targeted the rest of the globe, not just the USA. You have fun playing with your whataboutisms though.

[Tash]

Some update on the fails, hope everyone manages to take care of the situation.
If you rely on others you are lost. Bill Gates of hell and Fauci senting millions to China is for personal gains at expense of average human.

[TwitchySeal]

[Whatabout... whatabout...whatabout...]

This is a non sequitur. The premise is China used this as a biological weapon regardless of the virus origins. Furthermore, this targeted the rest of the globe, not just the USA. You have fun playing with your whataboutisms though.

Your premise is a post hoc ergo propter hoc.