Coronavirus Outbreak

[franky1]

"The Case Against China - AMA with Stefan Molyneux and Paul Cottrell"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6qRJxyNDII

pre-watching video i checked out the guy.
seems cottrell PhD is in finance and not medical
he recently supposedly started a medical school but wont even be doing rotations for a couple years

begins watching...
a few critiques about the modelling of the numbers over the 9month or 2 year models
but thats subjective based on what inputs he may have used.

surprisingly for a student he has done his research on the effects of covid on the body. so his tutor would be proud.
..

this is the first video that you posted in recent months that actually interested me to keep watching without a facepalm
still listening while typing this...
ill wait for him to dip into the meander to china finger pointing for facepalms
update:
just before he jumps into china finger pointing.. he says covid affects male sexual hormones.
not quite
just like he hinted out about a rash.. its more likely being treated with hydrochloroquin thats causing adverse sideeffects
hmm lets risk listening to the last quarter of video. seems to be heavy on the lets not be friendly to china

update:
overall summary, quite tame, only a few knitpicks id have but not worthy of arguing over. generally more informative than i thought.

[franky1]

to pre-empt the misinformation crew staring new conspiracies/racial chants. 2 things need to be clarified

china saying that wuhan had 3.8k now (50% more) than previous 2.5k is not them hiding anything. its not a conspiracy.
the 2.5k deaths were those in hospital. this is the same stat recording model most countries use.. so no finger pointing.
the new additions are those outside of hospitals that died at home/retirement villages/care homes due to symptoms and tets that show covid.

the UK when it had 11k deaths the other day reported a similar 50% death outside of hospital(16k total) due to same causes of death (symptoms/tests tied directly to covid).

the numbers are not just grabbing any death and calling it covid. its based on actual doctor observations/tests/and other things to find the actual cause of death.

america have yet to count those not in the hospital stats so be surprised by how many people didnt make it to hospital or refused to go to hospital to not be in the initial statistic.

genreal deaths of any cause is another separate number and is higher. which shows that the conspiracy of 'all deaths are covid' is a lie.
....

another point that i have been seeing coming out when a country says if can perform XXX tests a day.
EG say its 15k a day. this does not mean if they only do 10k one day it means they have 5k spare to do 20k the next.
these test abilities are not based on disposible kits that can be stored for later. they are based on machine oeperating numbers.
so if a machine can handle 15 tests per machine a day and there are are 1000 machines. that does not mean they can set aside the spare 5k tests. it means tomorrow there is still only 15k tests able to be done per day

these machines are not machines that are not normally few hours, forced to do it in few minutes.
when they ramp up testing its done by multiplying the number of machines to increase the amount of tests able to be done a day.
a few people think that these tests are being done half-assed using fraction of the time. its not. its more machines and more machines in more local area's to do more tests.
the shortening of the time to get the test from the patient and to a lab is because machines are used more locally
EG reduce the transportation to lab from being hours, of a regional/national lab.. to be a few minutes to get it to a machine within the same hospital

so i hope that debunks a couple conspiracies before the start

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"The Case Against China - AMA with Stefan Molyneux and Paul Cottrell"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6qRJxyNDII

pre-watching video i checked out the guy.
seems cottrell PhD is in finance and not medical
he recently supposedly started a medical school but wont even be doing rotations for a couple years

begins watching...
a few critiques about the modelling of the numbers over the 9month or 2 year models
but thats subjective based on what inputs he may have used.

surprisingly for a student he has done his research on the effects of covid on the body. so his tutor would be proud.
..

this is the first video that you posted in recent months that actually interested me to keep watching without a facepalm
still listening while typing this...
ill wait for him to dip into the meander to china finger pointing for facepalms
update:
just before he jumps into china finger pointing.. he says covid affects male sexual hormones.
not quite
just like he hinted out about a rash.. its more likely being treated with hydrochloroquin thats causing adverse sideeffects
hmm lets risk listening to the last quarter of video. seems to be heavy on the lets not be friendly to china

update:
overall summary, quite tame, only a few knitpicks id have but not worthy of arguing over. generally more informative than i thought.

That man is about a billion times more brilliant than you. Just shut the fuck up. Please.

[franky1]

That man is about a billion times more brilliant than you. Just shut the fuck up. Please.

atleast your learning to actually find these type of people. compared to previous links which were just conspiracy/racial based rants
and i did say i was impressed and surprised by how much detail he did give when he was concentrating on the medical side.
my initial bias against the guy before even clicking the link was more due to who provided the link in this forum, made me initially doubt the validity of it.
but as i showed i bothered to watch it i got intrigued by it and found it informative. so my surprise was more related to who posted the link more than anything.

from now on i may give you the benefit of no initial bias and start to see you as someone on a path for the truth and away from the conspiracy.. but dont let me down by you turning back down the conspiracy path as it just makes anything else you say just get treated with bias against you..again

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That man is about a billion times more brilliant than you. Just shut the fuck up. Please.

atleast your learning to actually find these type of people. compared to previous links which were just conspiracy/racial based rants
and i did say i was impressed and surprised by how much detail he did give when he was concentrating on the medical side.
my initial bias against the guy before even clicking the link was more due to who provided the link in this forum, made me initially doubt the validity of it.
but as i showed i bothered to watch it i got intrigued by it and found it informative. so my surprise was more related to who posted the link more than anything.

from now on i may give you the benefit of no initial bias and start to see you as someone on a path for the truth and away from the conspiracy.. but dont let me down by you turning back down the conspiracy path as it just makes anything else you say just get treated with bias against you..again

Yes, lets pretend like you bother to read anything I post, or much of anything for that matter. I couldn't give a fuck less what your judgment of me is, you are a tool.




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"CBC Instructs Kids on How to Shut Down Their Parents’ “Conspiracy Theories”"

https://summit.news/2020/04/16/cbc-instructs-kids-on-how-to-shut-down-their-parents-conspiracy-theories/

[tvbcof]

"The Case Against China - AMA with Stefan Molyneux and Paul Cottrell"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6qRJxyNDII

pre-watching video i checked out the guy.
seems cottrell PhD is in finance and not medical...

Watched a bit, but got bored and skimmed most of it.  I can see why wanky1-types get wood since the guy is spinning a yarn about how the balognavirus could be bigger than the Black Plague.  The good Doctor (of economics) uses some slightly better than random jargon which is enough for idjuts like wanky1 to get stimulated.

Whenever this Geo-Webb-associated clown speaks jargon it looks like he's reading off a prompter.  The whole thing looks like two people reading through a script.  Typical Molyneux.

Generally speaking, the yak-yak struck me as a couple of Zionists trying to gin up a war between the U.S. and China.  Now why would they want to do a thing like that?

[franky1]

i didnt apreciate the 'yak yak' of the pointing finger at china part either. but thats about stupid racism and politics and not about this topic of corona virus.
but atleast the guy in the vid did atleast do his research on the factual details of the virus even if he id meaner into trying to do some china pointy fingering

[BADecker]

i didnt apreciate the 'yak yak' of the pointing finger at china part either. but thats about stupid racism and politics and not about this topic of corona virus.
but atleast the guy in the vid did atleast do his research on the factual details of the virus even if he id meaner into trying to do some china pointy fingering

Check out the videos at The Highwire (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos), where Del Bigtree interviews - or shows interviews - of doctors and people in government. Many doctors and people in government are telling us that the Coronavirus problem is mostly a scare by the medical and the media... a scare that doesn't have any more teeth to it than any from the last 10 or 20 years.

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"US Launches 'Full-Scale Investigation' Into Wuhan Lab"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-launches-full-scale-investigation-wuhan-lab

[yeosaga]

i didnt apreciate the 'yak yak' of the pointing finger at china part either. but thats about stupid racism and politics and not about this topic of corona virus.
but atleast the guy in the vid did atleast do his research on the factual details of the virus even if he id meaner into trying to do some china pointy fingering

If the virus started in America, and then people called it the America Virus would that be racist too?

[franky1]

i didnt apreciate the 'yak yak' of the pointing finger at china part either. but thats about stupid racism and politics and not about this topic of corona virus.
but atleast the guy in the vid did atleast do his research on the factual details of the virus even if he id meaner into trying to do some china pointy fingering

If the virus started in America, and then people called it the America Virus would that be racist too?

its the tone
no one blames spain for the spanish flu
but if the tone is that china cause it intentionally using the conspiracy tones of racial bias and vindictive finger pointing. then it changes things..

much like saying MERS. that didnt get much vindictive hate of terrorist conspiracy towards the middle east even though at the time the middle east as a separate thing had terrorist monotones about other things.
but strangely this covid tone towards 'chinese flu' is not absent of hate. its actually used as a ploy to cause media to want people to hate china.

eg i could call a friend of mine a black guy, in a friendly manner, and it just passes with no thought, but if i say it in a negative/derogatory tone. ill definitely get a unpleasant response pointing out my use of the term

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i didnt apreciate the 'yak yak' of the pointing finger at china part either. but thats about stupid racism and politics and not about this topic of corona virus.
but atleast the guy in the vid did atleast do his research on the factual details of the virus even if he id meaner into trying to do some china pointy fingering

If the virus started in America, and then people called it the America Virus would that be racist too?

its the tone
no one blames spain for the spanish flu
but if the tone is that china cause it intentionally using the conspiracy tones of racial bias and vindictive finger pointing. then it changes things..

much like saying MERS. that didnt get much vindictive hate of terrorist conspiracy towards the middle east even though at the time the middle east as a separate thing had terrorist monotones about other things.
but strangely this covid tone towards 'chinese flu' is not absent of hate. its actually used as a ploy to cause media to want people to hate china.

eg i could call a friend of mine a black guy, in a friendly manner, and it just passes with no thought, but if i say it in a negative/derogatory tone. ill definitely get a unpleasant response pointing out my use of the term

If your black friend was sick and drank out of your cup while you left the room and didn't tell you, would it be racist to call him out for it? China lied purposely to set the world back economically and level the playing field. Call it racist all you like, that is not ok.



CHINA: Calling it a Chinese virus is racist!


ALSO CHINA: "No Blacks Allowed in China - Episode #24"   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTASl9wsM0Q

[franky1]

If your black friend was sick and drank out of your cup while you left the room and didn't tell you, would it be racist to call him out for it? China lied purposely to set the world back economically and level the playing field. Call it racist all you like, that is not ok.

if anyone drank out of my cup while sick without my knowledge would get called out for it.
but you brinking up that it had to be my black friend is you infering id be calling him out due to his skin colour.

sorry but no.. a human thats sick doing something that risks someone else getting sick should not be twisted into a discussion about a certain race in general to then brand a whole race as the same negative activity. nor that the activity is limited to that race..

china did not lie
health records were not destroyed. the patient zero was not hidden. the tests were passed onto other government agencies around the worlds. data was passed around

but. media and conspiracy promotors who lack doing the research pretend there is no research to find so that they can then finger point blame.
yep ignorance and racism are two common characteristics of stupid people.

funny part is you say 'its not racist' and then go straight into a racial chant of 'china are liars' makes your whole point invalidated

[TECSHARE]

If your black friend was sick and drank out of your cup while you left the room and didn't tell you, would it be racist to call him out for it? China lied purposely to set the world back economically and level the playing field. Call it racist all you like, that is not ok.

if anyone drank out of my cup while sick without my knowledge would get called out for it.
but you brinking up that it had to be my black friend is you infering id be calling him out due to his skin colour.

sorry but no.. a human thats sick doing something that risks someone else getting sick should not be twisted into a discussion about a certain race in general to then brand a whole race as the same negative activity. nor that the activity is limited to that race..

china did not lie
health records were not destroyed. the patient zero was not hidden. the tests were passed onto other government agencies around the worlds. data was passed around

but. media and conspiracy promotors who lack doing the research pretend there is no research to find so that they can then finger point blame.
yep ignorance and racism are two common characteristics of stupid people.

funny part is you say 'its not racist' and then go straight into a racial chant of 'china are liars' makes your whole point invalidated

And no one is calling out China because of their race, they are calling them out because of their actions. They most certainly did lie. You have fun doing your retarded mental back flips to justify your total lack of logic.

[franky1]

And no one is calling out China because of their race, they are calling them out because of their actions. They most certainly did lie. You have fun doing your retarded mental back flips to justify your total lack of logic.

again your rhetoric is still CHINA "THEM" "their" "they"
i dont say blackguys drank my drink. i did not say backguys lied. id say a specific example. such as a friend drank my drink
by you trying to make it sound like "china" (1.xbillion people) lied. weakens your point
specify which individuals. specificy what data was deleted.

by saying that china is communist and hates america.. which your intent is.. you are classing a whole race under the same umbrella
do you even get what racism is.

and the world does know the origins of the virus. there are tests that have been done by many countries. heck many countries then done tests on their own populous and compared it to tests of other countries and found it to be the same strain. thus 'china'(your preferable word) is not hiding it by having a lab outbreak and then covering it up and just saying its from a bat->pangolin->human
independent tests on strains they have independently done verify the bat-pangolon-human path
patient zero was not hidden. after recovery the person actually done interviews about the weeks leading up to being hospitalised and the treatment while in the hospital.
its actually public news

just try not to only find the conspiracy sites that are ignoring it. and then pretending the info doesnt exist because conspiracy sites are not mentioning it.

i think this one example is where your following a badecker troll trend.
along with a kingscorpio racial tone of pointing fingers..
.. bu just try and take a step back catch your breath have a cup of coffee and relax a bit.. and then do real research. dont just blindly repaste scripts of racial/conspiracy narratives

and if you want to talk about liars.. try avoiding the race "china" and instead try to find an individual.

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"[CCP Virus] Curtis Ellis: How China’s Communist Party “Infected the World” With its Malign Ideology"

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[BADecker]

It's about cancer, not Coronavirus. When we cure the CV pandemic medically, what we will be doing is activating cancer within ourselves.

Check the videos at the site.


Fauci Cover Up? 25 MILLION Infected With Cancer Virus?

Do you love Dr. Fauci?

Some people do… Some people don't.

American Researcher, Dr. Judy Mikovits worked with Fauci in a laboratory setting for years.  During the time she worked with him, she learned the American blood supply was heavily contaminated...

What was the contamination?

She found more than 25 million Americans at were infected with cancer-causing viruses.

Yeah, that's right... over 25 million Americans were ticking time bombs for developing cancer and related diseases.

She claims that at a meeting at the NIH on September 6,2010, Francis Collins ordered Dr. Fauci to fund and direct a large-scale study to replicate Dr Mikovits' findings.

Mikovitis continues … she says "they weren't about to let that study happen using real patients that that fit the criteria."

She says Dr. Fauci forbade her "to set foot in Frank Rossetti's lab where I worked for almost 22 years at the National Cancer Institute in Frederick Maryland in Fort Dietrich."

Further… if she "came into the lab to do that study, [she] would be arrested."

With a figurative and literal gun to her head, she was put in a position that if she didn't agree the study was fair… that they would never go look for the viruses again.

Tony Fauci, she claims, stopped the study, and said "time to stop wasting the government's money."

Click "Play," and turn up the sound as Dr. Judy Mikovits describes how she helped discover infectious transmissible cancer viruses and Tony Fauci he made it all go away.

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[franky1]

Dr Mikovits'

fact checking:
2009 she made a report that chronic fatigue syndrome was caused by a leukaemia caused virus
she was not told not to go back to her lab after the report while tests were being done to see if its real
they actually done many many tests on many many patients around the world and tests in the lab

then by late 2010
she requested large funding so she can run tests her way. and due to lack of real proof
 she was fired.

later it was found that Dr mikovits admitted that some of the results of her published report were false and she had to retract certain parts.

more tests were done just to find if there was any benefit of doubt. but still no results found any tie to leukaemia, viruses and CFS and the whole report got retracted

fast forward to 2018
she is now earning her money on the conspiracy community tour circuit getting paid to do conferences

its kinda funny how badecker posts something without fact checking first.

[TwitchySeal]

Dr Mikovits'

fact checking:
2009 she made a report that chronic fatigue syndrome was caused by a leukaemia caused virus
she was not told not to go back to her lab after the report while tests were being done to see if its real
they actually done many many tests on many many patients around the world and tests in the lab

then by late 2010
she requested large funding so she can run tests her way. and due to lack of real proof
 she was fired.

later it was found that Dr mikovits admitted that some of the results of her published report were false and she had to retract certain parts.

more tests were done just to find if there was any benefit of doubt. but still no results found any tie to leukaemia, viruses and CFS and the whole report got retracted

fast forward to 2018
she is now earning her money on the conspiracy community tour circuit getting paid to do conferences

its kinda funny how badecker posts something without fact checking first.

Also try disabling ad blocker and look at the ads on the links he posts. Almost 100% of them are some sudo-science product targeting gullible people.

[TECSHARE]

Also try disabling ad blocker and look at the ads on the links he posts. Almost 100% of them are some sudo-science product targeting gullible people.

Is this kind of like when you claimed the comments on a post discredited the content?