Coronavirus Outbreak

[franky1]

the problem with conspiracy sheep is that they dont understand grey areas. they only see black and white

take a scale
god                                                             government                  
natural      1   2   3   4  5   6   7   8  9   10     orchestrated

9-11 was it earthquake or tsunami(1)-no it was plane flown by nutters angry at gov then leap to 10 blame gov
pandemic did people walk on water(1)-no gov allowed planes to fly even after lockdown. leap to 10 blame gov

no matter what it is if they can find something to not class it as 1 they want to leap it to 10
thenwhen they have gov to blame they meander it next into how gov planned it, designed it, executed it

they dont think that there is a grey area in between. where gov is not planning/controlling. but instead goc just cant react fast enough, doesnt plan ahead they are just rich guys just tying to hold a job for 4 years

they dont think that people make mistakes and that al human decision can be independant.
take 9-1 them nutters flying the plane. yea they hated US gov.. but they were also a little insane to want to kill themselves and others for the cause of their hate. they did not have the smarts to thin of other ways to get attention
take corona yea repatriating people to the us brought the virus over the ocean. a mistake. but doesnt mean it was a eugenics plan or a hidden plot.

if only people stopped leaping to 10 about everything. and atleast research the details and figure out somethings can be a 3-6 which are just mistakes that cause big problems later
then they can actually start making rational decisions and actually start making a point.
but leaping to 10 skipping all the reasons for deserving a 10 makes their conspiracy theories void of substance

if they instead stuck with thinking something was a 3-6 and specified why its not a 2 and not a 7 they could actually have something productive to say

The problem with people who make appeals to authority is that they don't understand the concept of dual use. A hammer can build a house. A hammer can also collapse some one's skull. Funny, you talk about grey areas when you are literally making the argument that it has to be one or the other when it can clearly be both. It sounds to me like you are the one with the problem conceptualizing "grey areas." Cognitive dissonance at work ladies and gentlemen, with a side of projection.

did you even read.
i was saying conspiracy freaks think 1 or 10
i was saying that i prefer to look at the scale and weigh things up.
im not the one that jumps from 1 to 10
im more of a 3-6 kind of guy swaying judgement by whichever side is making mistakes, incompentant, dumb or have a independant hidden agenda

i dont beleive its a whole government club for the simple reason that the people involved change every few years so it would be impossible to hold such a secret with so many coming in and out of government

when it comes to government involvement in a issue, event, mistake, overreach i feel it is more like personal greed/stupidity of humans of someone with a name badge and title(6).. not some weird lizard race hiding under silicon printed skin to hide  global alien invasion..(10)

[BADecker]

the problem with conspiracy sheep is that they dont understand grey areas. they only see black and white

take a scale
god                                                             government                  
natural      1   2   3   4  5   6   7   8  9   10     orchestrated

9-11 was it earthquake or tsunami(1)-no it was plane flown by nutters angry at gov then leap to 10 blame gov
pandemic did people walk on water(1)-no gov allowed planes to fly even after lockdown. leap to 10 blame gov

no matter what it is if they can find something to not class it as 1 they want to leap it to 10
thenwhen they have gov to blame they meander it next into how gov planned it, designed it, executed it

they dont think that there is a grey area in between. where gov is not planning/controlling. but instead goc just cant react fast enough, doesnt plan ahead they are just rich guys just tying to hold a job for 4 years

they dont think that people make mistakes and that al human decision can be independant.
take 9-1 them nutters flying the plane. yea they hated US gov.. but they were also a little insane to want to kill themselves and others for the cause of their hate. they did not have the smarts to thin of other ways to get attention
take corona yea repatriating people to the us brought the virus over the ocean. a mistake. but doesnt mean it was a eugenics plan or a hidden plot.

if only people stopped leaping to 10 about everything. and atleast research the details and figure out somethings can be a 3-6 which are just mistakes that cause big problems later
then they can actually start making rational decisions and actually start making a point.
but leaping to 10 skipping all the reasons for deserving a 10 makes their conspiracy theories void of substance

if they instead stuck with thinking something was a 3-6 and specified why its not a 2 and not a 7 they could actually have something productive to say

The problem with people who make appeals to authority is that they don't understand the concept of dual use. A hammer can build a house. A hammer can also collapse some one's skull. Funny, you talk about grey areas when you are literally making the argument that it has to be one or the other when it can clearly be both. It sounds to me like you are the one with the problem conceptualizing "grey areas." Cognitive dissonance at work ladies and gentlemen, with a side of projection.

did you even read.
i was saying conspiracy freaks think 1 or 10
i was saying that i prefer to look at the scale and weigh things up.
im not the one that jumps from 1 to 10
im more of a 3-6 kind of guy swaying judgement by whichever side is making mistakes, incompentant, dumb or have a independant hidden agenda

i dont beleive its a whole government club for the simple reason that the people involved change every few years so it would be impossible to hold such a secret with so many coming in and out of government

when it comes to government involvement in a issue, event, mistake, overreach i feel it is more like personal greed/stupidity of humans of someone with a name badge and title(6).. not some weird lizard race hiding under silicon printed skin to hide  global alien invasion..(10)

You are so funny   You play this word game, gut you aren't even interested in getting the experts to court where they can battle it out in such a way that the truth would be shown. You'd rather play the odds.

[franky1]

there will be an inquiry you idiot

i have said this to you many times
there are also other things happening too, which if you actually researched you would find out
there are things like M&M meetings and reviewing patient notes and healthcare provider scrutiny,
loads of things are actually going on if you actually bothered to try using your brain for more than fantasy

[TECSHARE]

did you even read.
i was saying conspiracy freaks think 1 or 10
i was saying that i prefer to look at the scale and weigh things up.
im not the one that jumps from 1 to 10
im more of a 3-6 kind of guy swaying judgement by whichever side is making mistakes, incompentant, dumb or have a independant hidden agenda

i dont beleive its a whole government club for the simple reason that the people involved change every few years so it would be impossible to hold such a secret with so many coming in and out of government

when it comes to government involvement in a issue, event, mistake, overreach i feel it is more like personal greed/stupidity of humans of someone with a name badge and title(6).. not some weird lizard race hiding under silicon printed skin to hide  global alien invasion..(10)

Government is not a monolith Ricky Retardo. There are many factions within it fighting for different goals. Furthermore there are many groups outside of government that are not elected that exert significant influence on whoever does get in. Impossible to keep secrets? It is called compartmentalization. Look it up.



On another note-

China: Calling it a Chinese virus is racist!

Also China: Black people are banned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj86ScjIIX4

[BADecker]

there will be an inquiry you idiot

i have said this to you many times
there are also other things happening too, which if you actually researched you would find out
there are things like M&M meetings and reviewing patient notes and healthcare provider scrutiny,
loads of things are actually going on if you actually bothered to try using your brain for more than fantasy

^^^ franky1 overdrive burnout.

But who knows? M&Ms in the CV pandemic just might be the cure.

    

[franky1]

you dont have to be convincing me about government not being a single entity monolith ricky richardo.
you have to convince your fellow conspiracy nutters which you are (to use your word) horizontal with.. oops i mean beside
but atleast your having the courage to try detaching yourself and falling away from them without requiring any big explosions


the whole 'china virus' is a little bit of 'point the finger' of blame. usually in the racial tone of fox news style
but here is some level head thinking
yes it did originate in china. but blaming china for US/UK 2 month do nothing.. is a stretch
yes it did originate in china. but blaming china for US/UK still repatriating people(bringing it to US/UK).. is a stretch
yes it did originate in china. but blaming china for US/UK not preparing.. is a stretch
yes it did originate in china. but blaming china for US/UK not contact monitoring.. is a stretch

if the world market wants a identifier like MERS is Middle East Respiratory Syndrome
they could use WUWERS    WUhanWEtmarketRespiratorySyndrome

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anyway.. in more newer news
over the last week china was at a ~35 new case daily. it then went to over 60 and now over 90
seems they can be starting their second wave which at a 2.6 transmission rate
would see them getting back to their 1k number(january lockdown decision) in just a few weeks if they do not fully contact monitor and isolate those infected again to get them numbers down

and other countries should be realising this risk

[BADecker]

The Coronavirus outbreak was really an inside breakout. The WHO, headed up by China, thought they saw a way to overcome any more of Trump's tariffs. So they broke a pandemic story in such a way that the media jumped on and ran with. But it was all a story. There essentially isn't any more plague or death than what is normal for the flu season this time of year.

[franky1]

The Coronavirus outbreak was really an inside breakout. The WHO, headed up by China, thought they saw a way to overcome any more of Trump's tariffs. So they broke a pandemic story in such a way that the media jumped on and ran with. But it was all a story. There essentially isn't any more plague or death than what is normal for the flu season this time of year.

so one minute you want to blame WHO and china for a cover up.. for hiding it... next you want to blame WHO and china for announcing it to the world early

badecker. just pick one narrative and stick with it. your paranoia is spinning soo much you cant even keep your own narrative straight.

havnt you figured it out yet
the timeline is not a secret. there was not cover up. the first case in hospital on december 18th aint enough "proof" for an international announcement. by new years eve when there were a few localised cases and while tests were being done and samples being analyzed they didnt have enough info to know how bad it could get. but by the 9th of january they got the results back they checked it out, they realised that it was not a small case of localised food poisoning or a gas attack at a location and all other silly things posibilities were ruled out. they also anazlysed it to see it was not the normal SARS strain.
thus at that point they realised that its more viralant and also causing more harm than normal sars

no cover up. no over reaction. no prolonged delay/hiding.

[BADecker]

The Coronavirus outbreak was really an inside breakout. The WHO, headed up by China, thought they saw a way to overcome any more of Trump's tariffs. So they broke a pandemic story in such a way that the media jumped on and ran with. But it was all a story. There essentially isn't any more plague or death than what is normal for the flu season this time of year.

so one minute you want to blame WHO and china for a cover up.. for hiding it... next you want to blame WHO and china for announcing it to the world early

badecker. just pick one narrative and stick with it. your paranoia is spinning soo much you cant even keep your own narrative straight.

havnt you figured it out yet
the timeline is not a secret. there was not cover up. the first case in hospital on december 18th aint enough "proof" for an international announcement. by new years eve when there were a few localised cases and while tests were being done and samples being analyzed they didnt have enough info to know how bad it could get. but by the 9th of january they got the results back they checked it out, they realised that it was not a small case of localised food poisoning or a gas attack at a location and all other silly things posibilities were ruled out. they also anazlysed it to see it was not the normal SARS strain.
thus at that point they realised that its more viralant and also causing more harm than normal sars

no cover up. no over reaction. no prolonged delay/hiding.

You know, franky1? You are kinda strange. Do you even think about what you are saying? It's like you are kinda backwards and forwards at the same time. Who do you work for... or should I say, do you work for WHO?

[franky1]

my narrative has been clear.
there is a virulent virus more harmful than previous strains of sars
there is actually science behind it
there is a reason for isolation
the healthcare system cant cope if everyone was to get it.
many many many many more have died that previous strains. and many more will.. and even more could have/will do without any isolations
and the main narrative im sticking with that is backed up by many many many posts by you. that you are an idiot

however you cant get your narrative straight about if covid is real or not.
if china/who covered up or over publicised
if its more or less virulent
if there is or not any science
if isolation is or not helpful
if the healthcare system is or is not being impacted

oh and you cant even get your narrative straight about if im some smart brain or some dumb brain

so spend some time to get your narrative to flow more fluidly in one direction, no more meandering like a troll. actually start to get some proper research thats not faux media or cult blog. actually scrutinise things. and just get your story straight.

[virasog]

You still touch touch-screens on self checkouts or ticket machines...?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/charlotte-woman-hasnt-left-her-house-in-three-weeks-but-tested-positive-for-covid-19/ar-BB12sjy4?ocid=st

Even if she did not go out for three weeks, it may be possible that someone may have visited her house and that person might be effected by virus. Well, many people do come to our house like a Newspaper man, a milkman and sometimes a gardener. So it is not only you stop going outside but also keep a strong eye on who is coming to your home.

But more than likely the tests are flawed or fraudulent.    

That is another dilemma of this virus outbreak. We have false media reporting, the testing kits are faulty, hospitals capactity is not enough and no vaccine could be developed the medicine scientists.

Are we living in 2020 or 1918 ?

People have been going to movies for quite some time. Even the most serious and highly intelligent people watch a movie once in a while.

Everybody knows that movies are made by actors. Everybody knows that even if a movies is a documentary, it is at least a little off regarding what actually happened, and what the real scenes of the real happening looked like. Everybody except the little children knows this.

But movies look so realistic these days, that there is a part of the brain that accepts them as real, even though the movie-goer knows that they are not real. And the more movies anyone watches, the more that certain brain part is strengthened. People don't even know what is real any longer... at least not until it steps out and bites them, personally.

There are so many discrepancies to the Coronavirus story, that anybody who has his head screwed on, will be highly inclined to think that it is a big fat hoax.

So, let's see some real proof... proof that is not assumed proof... proof that is not movie proof. I mean, they can show all the dead bodies they want in videos, just like they can in movies.

If all this is an Hoax and a movie planned for some whatever reasons, who is the one who is getting benefit from it ?
Also if this is planned, the you can't take the credit from the planner for its perfect execution.

[BADecker]

People have been going to movies for quite some time. Even the most serious and highly intelligent people watch a movie once in a while.

Everybody knows that movies are made by actors. Everybody knows that even if a movies is a documentary, it is at least a little off regarding what actually happened, and what the real scenes of the real happening looked like. Everybody except the little children knows this.

But movies look so realistic these days, that there is a part of the brain that accepts them as real, even though the movie-goer knows that they are not real. And the more movies anyone watches, the more that certain brain part is strengthened. People don't even know what is real any longer... at least not until it steps out and bites them, personally.

There are so many discrepancies to the Coronavirus story, that anybody who has his head screwed on, will be highly inclined to think that it is a big fat hoax.

So, let's see some real proof... proof that is not assumed proof... proof that is not movie proof. I mean, they can show all the dead bodies they want in videos, just like they can in movies.

If all this is an Hoax and a movie planned for some whatever reasons, who is the one who is getting benefit from it ?
Also if this is planned, the you can't take the credit from the planner for its perfect execution.

Search on the collapse of the fiat money system. The collapse is being hidden by this CV "movie" for two basic reasons:
1. So that people don't realize what is happening - or at least can't find easy proof - and lynch the bankers;
2. So that the banking system can be jumped into something new that will take over the current, failing, fiat system.

[franky1]

badecker thinks everything is a movie. because thats all his experience of the world is.. sat in a basement watching movies.

where as billions of people that actually have lives outside the house. can actually see the reality of what is really happening.
but it is funny how badecker only dares reference youtube, cult websites and movies as his sources
oh and certain books wrote in english telling stories about an era that didnt even have english at the time

yet he doesnt even try to think outside of his box

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anyway.
china is realising they are going to have their second wave very soon.
hopefully other countries take note and not plan on things that go against the protection of peoples health, just to push people into making money

i do find it funny how badecker wants people to go work and earn tax dollars at the sake of loads of deaths..
i do find it funny how badecker advertises chemicals that people should buy
i do find it funny how badecker pretends to be anti corp/establishment. but is then promoting stuff very much in their realm
i do find it sad how badecker has no conscience and no compassion for those that do get hurt by events

[BADecker]

badecker thinks everything is a movie. because thats all his experience of the world is.. sat in a basement watching movies.

where as billions of people that actually have lives outside the house. can actually see the reality of what is really happening.
but it is funny how badecker only dares reference youtube, cult websites and movies as his sources
oh and certain books wrote in english telling stories about an era that didnt even have english at the time

yet he doesnt even try to think outside of his box

..
anyway.
china is realising they are going to have their second wave very soon.
hopefully other countries take note and not plan on things that go against the protection of peoples health, just to push people into making money

i do find it funny how badecker wants people to go work and earn tax dollars at the sake of loads of deaths..
i do find it funny how badecker advertises chemicals that people should buy
i do find it funny how badecker pretends to be anti corp/establishment. but is then promoting stuff very much in their realm
i do find it sad how badecker has no conscience and no compassion for those that do get hurt by events

The preponderance of evidence for CV matches the preponderance of lies about it.

[franky1]

The preponderance of evidence for CV matches the preponderance of lies about it.

the evidence exists. if you look outside of your little box you fear coming out of.
speak to actual ICU doctors
find ACTUAL death certificate
look on the actual source info.

dont just get spoonfed from a faux media influencer who puts out a youtube video

i even gave you info about a family in your own state(not far from you) who you can go talk to who will tell you exactly what they KNOW about your stupid chemicals your promote
i even gave you links to actual ICU specialist doctors who have studied bloodwork/ct scans/xrays and been face to face with patients.
that trumps your ED doctor or chiropractor that your faux news presented. because even they admit they didnt have experience or training or deep knowledge.

[BADecker]

With all the lockdowns and self-isolation, many people with nothing but time on their hands, are finally figuring out what is happening. Oh, Now They Say It shows how the media is turning around and announcing much of the stuff they were banning just a month ago.

Oh, Now They Say It

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sni41zr2-SY

[franky1]

what badecker FORGETS

is that this is not the end of the crisis.
this is the delay. and thats the whole point
delay over 90% getting it so they can prep hospitals to cope when more people get it later.

so the precautions now. are PRE. meaning before.
imagine if there were not precautions, no isolation no social distancing.
actually run the numbers

i bet if there were no precautions then when hospitals get over run and have to make the decision to just let certain people die badecker would be claiming that the hospitals/insurance companies/doctors and government want to eugenic a certain demograph.
he would complain how they done nothing and it was a planned genocide

yes everyone knows and doesnt like having to self isolate.. but there is actually a very good reason for it.
complaining about why things are done to try finding a reason to not do it is stupid.
complaining about why if things were not done that they should have been done and no reason not to have done it is stupid

yea i personally moan about governments 'repatriating' travellers thus bringing people with corona across borders. but hey. i take it as government incompetance not some elitist plan of one world order conspiracy crap
buti moved on and now looking at the situation we sit at today. not being stuck with how things were /should have been in january/march

[Spendulus]

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i do find it sad how badecker has no conscience and no compassion for those that do get hurt by events

I got a friend whose high rise apt is close to one of the NY hospitals, he has told me about watching the bodies loaded into the refrigerated trucks.

Now watch the conspiracy theory extend to faking that.

[franky1]

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i do find it sad how badecker has no conscience and no compassion for those that do get hurt by events

I got a friend whose high rise apt is close to one of the NY hospitals, he has told me about watching the bodies loaded into the refrigerated trucks.

Now watch the conspiracy theory extend to faking that.

then watch badeckers conspiracy theory of how healthy doctors and nurses are suddenlydying.. or not dying in his mind

then watch badeckers conspiracy about the relaxation of isolation as a eugenics plan to kill people while taking their money in taxes

[tvbcof]

Jason Bermas on Ryan Christian's show is worth watching for those who (like me) have been increasingly leaning toward the hypothesis that there is nothing abnormal going on vis-a-vis actual medical issues.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Pmuk7TIoA

I also have finally talked to a friend who does have a mother-in-law who had something which was considered to be 'covid-19'.  Sixty-somthing New Yorker, and mention was made that the attitude in New York, at least back at the time she caught it, was pretty dismissive.  She was apparently pretty sick and miserable but didn't stay at the hospital and has recovered by now.

In the rural area where I have an unoccupied estate nobody in the country nobody is know to have or have had 'covid-19'.  In other news from back home, the power company did, apparently, come back and removed all of the 'smart-meters' since they didn't work for shit.  To remote, and the devices must not have been able to communicate with one another.  I shudder to think of the power levels they must have jacked them up to trying to get signal hops.  I was gone a month after they installed the devices and have not been back since.  My power bill has been very high in spite of not being there, though, since for the last 12 months or so they have just been extrapolating the last power bill or something like that.