Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[shahzadafzal]

BREAKING: Pfizer study shows that third dose of coronavirus vaccine is associated with a five-fold increase in antibodies in those aged 18-55 and an eleven-fold increase in those aged 65-85.

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[beertoll]

BREAKING: Pfizer study shows that third dose of coronavirus vaccine is associated with a five-fold increase in antibodies in those aged 18-55 and an eleven-fold increase in those aged 65-85.

Someone please explain this in bitcoin terms?

You've come to the right place for answers!!! Prepare for thorough yet simple explanations by amateur virologists of Bitcointalk.org who received their expertise from the best Facebook posts.

[TwitchySeal]

FDA considers mRNA a gene therapy product, the debate as-with settled.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm

Are you just posting random links now with bullshit statements attached to them in hope that people won't read them? The link is just financial information.

People who call mRNA vaccines "gene therapy" have not read anything about neither of these different scientific fields.

Here's a handly little trick which works on most browsers.  <ctl-f> brings up a search function where you will immediately find such things as:

Code:

Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA.

Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html
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The marketing departments and state department psychological groups have determined that it's bad publicity to force experimental gene therapy injections on people.  Unfortunately for them, it takes a while for re-definitions to work their way through the systems.  In the mean time, mRNA injections continue to be 'gene therapy' as any logical person who has even a tiny amount of knowledge about the subjects can plainly see.

Reading the CDC's 'facts.html' serves as a great illustration of how duplicitous this wing of the medical/industrial complex is.  It's full from start to finish with the worst kind of obvious propaganda techniques.  The FDA is lagging the CDC, but will get there soon.

Sometimes you're pretty good at making it seem like you know what you're talking about.  Or at least difficult to expose how full of shit you really are. This isn't one of those times.

As beertolls already pointed out, the way you quoted just the first sentence from the paragraph below to defend Tash's argument makes you a shitty troll, a clueless idiot that doesn't care about the facts, or both.

[Tash]

Is it not a bit late to finally admit the graphene oxide injection "vaccine" does not work and does harm the shot victim
https://twitter.com/pfizer/status/1420474141686255624

[arielbit]

Is it not a bit late to finally admit the graphene oxide injection is not helpful
https://twitter.com/pfizer/status/1420474141686255624

proudly avoided hospitals and doctors for a loooooooong time, when i was a kid i got injured from sports and i did get into a hospital.

sadly watched hospitals grew in numbers proportional to malls through the years.

no doctors from where i live have a record sheet of me.

as for natural medicines/knowledge--you have the internet and local knowledge if you can get them 

[Nguyenquyhung28111]

Is it not a bit late to finally admit the graphene oxide injection is not helpful
https://twitter.com/pfizer/status/1420474141686255624


https://i.ibb.co/wMzNNhP/Untitled-5.jpg

proudly avoided hospitals and doctors for a loooooooong time, when i was a kid i got injured from sports and i did get into a hospital.

sadly watched hospitals grew in numbers proportional to malls through the years.

no doctors from where i live have a record sheet of me.

as for natural medicines/knowledge--you have the internet and local knowledge if you can get them 

You say it right, don't depend too much on the hospital, we have to live in harmony with nature, nature has a lot of gifts for us that we don't know. And you are right now we have internet and let's learn it learn more knowledge

[tvbcof]

I saved my father's life by getting him away from a drug for Parkinsons which he didn't have, and away from the doctor who was pushing it on him.  His symptoms were classic for an excess of it, and I found the information on-line rather easily (back in 2001...search engines used to work back in the old days, but Google was just getting started on it's monopoly and was not a household name.)

My sister saved my mother who was very near death from chemo.  The nurse was doubling the dose.  When the one good doctor who was involved in her care found out he flipped out.  Dunno what happened to the 'angle of mercy' for her 'oversight' because by that time Mom was done.  This happened just last year.  I will say the death by overdose of chemo drugs is obviously not a quick or pleasant way to go.

These are not the only people in my direct family who have had such incidents either.  I really have to wonder if some people in the medical 'care' field don't work under a quota system and get compensated for money they save society...by killing people.

So, I couldn't agree with the good doctor more, and certainly it is the way I live (and maybe the reason I live.)

[mindrust]

I saved my father's life by getting him away from a drug for Parkinsons which he didn't have, and away from the doctor who was pushing it on him.  His symptoms were classic for an excess of it, and I found the information on-line rather easily (back in 2001...search engines used to work back in the old days, but Google was just getting started on it's monopoly and was not a household name.)

My sister saved my mother who was very near death from chemo.  The nurse was doubling the dose.  When the one good doctor who was involved in her care found out he flipped out.  Dunno what happened to the 'angle of mercy' for her 'oversight' because by that time Mom was done.  This happened just last year.  I will say the death by overdose of chemo drugs is obviously not a quick or pleasant way to go.

These are not the only people in my direct family who have had such incidents either.  I really have to wonder if some people in the medical 'care' field don't work under a quota system and get compensated for money they save society...by killing people.

So, I couldn't agree with the good doctor more, and certainly it is the way I live (and maybe the reason I live.)

If you don't know your body well enough and not take care of it, nobody will take care of it better than you.

Even a doctor.

Doctors and nurses are just employees waiting for their next pay check. Patients come and go (and die) all the time. To them it is just the way of life. You are just another number. They will do whatever they learned in the medical school to improve your health but that's it. They will ignore the little details about you.

If you eat shit, you become shit. Stay stagnant, your body becomes stagnant. You are your best doctor. And sometimes you just run out of time...

[tvbcof]

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Doctors and nurses are just employees waiting for their next pay check. Patients come and go (and die) all the time. To them it is just the way of life. You are just another number. They will do whatever they learned in the medical school to improve your health but that's it. They will ignore the little details about you.

I had a good friend who was an OR nurse one time.  Their motto was "The bleeding always stops."

She also told me about an instance when a visiting surgeon hooked up a heart/lung machine backwards so it was pumping blood the wrong way.  When they figured it out after about 10 minutes it was to late and the guy died.  All the doctors and nurses involved kept their mouths shut and nobody knew what happened beyond 'he died in surgery.'

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Edit:  For the benefit of the highly vaxxed millennials: 'the bleeding always stops' (spoken in dead-pan) means that the patient always follows one of two paths: they survive or they die.  No need to get too excited because the problem will go away one way or another.

[beertoll]

200 years of public health has doubled our life expectancy:
Source: https://sjbpublichealth.org/200-years-public-health-doubled-life-expectancy/



Source: https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy


Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

[Tash]

200 years of public health has doubled our life expectancy:
Source: https://sjbpublichealth.org/200-years-public-health-doubled-life-expectancy/



Source: https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy


Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

Adam died at age 930 years (Gen 5:5),
Noah at 950 years (Gen 9:29) and Methuselah (Noah’s grandfather) was the oldest of them all, dying when he was 969 years old (Gen 5:27)

Learn at least the basics

[mindrust]

Adam died at age 930 years (Gen 5:5),
Noah at 950 years (Gen 9:29) and Methuselah (Noah’s grandfather) was the oldest of them all, dying when he was 969 years old (Gen 5:27)

Learn at least the basics

Don't tell me that you actually believe this shit.

[arielbit]

200 years of public health has doubled our life expectancy:
Source: https://sjbpublichealth.org/200-years-public-health-doubled-life-expectancy/


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Source: https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy


Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

how many wars are inside that 200 years?

how many technological advances and discovery aside from public health helped humans thrive? if you keep on digging you'll find many.

the modern day caveman who is in harmony with nature, has a freezer full of quality meats, refrigerator filled with produce, quality oils from anywhere in the world, got supplements like d3, zinc, herbs/essential oils that can be used as medicine if feeling unwell, a home gym or somewhere he can exercise, has the internet to find info if there is something missing or needed etc..

i can go on and on LOL  

[Tash]

Adam died at age 930 years (Gen 5:5),
Noah at 950 years (Gen 9:29) and Methuselah (Noah’s grandfather) was the oldest of them all, dying when he was 969 years old (Gen 5:27)

Learn at least the basics

Don't tell me that you actually believe this shit.

Its as good or even better as the other shit.

In other news something positve, Nigeria suing Pfizer for seven billion
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jun/05/health.healthandwellbeing1
And yes Pfizer can also be suid for the covid vaccine but government has to pay as per contract. (8.4 or thereabouts)

[beertoll]

Adam died at age 930 years (Gen 5:5),
Noah at 950 years (Gen 9:29) and Methuselah (Noah’s grandfather) was the oldest of them all, dying when he was 969 years old (Gen 5:27)

Learn at least the basics

Oh yeah, I completely forgot that... And that there were also talking snakes...

[tvbcof]

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Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

True enough because hunter/gatherer life ways tend to make for a tough lifestyle with a lot of risks.  That says nothing about geriatrics though.  Those who survived battles (male) and childbirth (female) likely often lived as long as people do today when they were naturally hardy, and most probably were due to multi-generational selective pressures and infant mortality.

In short, if one was 'lucky' enough to make it through the risky years to, say, age 40, it would have been realtively smooth sailing up into their 70's and 80's.  Probably much more smooth than it is for many industrialized people of today.

A long life was likely associated with the 'luck' of having kids and grandkids to help them out since it is a relatively common feature of hunter/gather groups that oldsters without such were turned out of the community to die.

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Another thing I would point out is that there was likely the same 'bell curve' of people who are naturally perceptive and intelligent (and/or scammy) across place and time.  In the old days these people would stay in the community as healers and/or religious leaders.  It is quite amazing what some _real_ primitive healers were able to do with plants and such over a lifetime of studying them.  The thing which has change now is that someone from a less developed area and having some brains is likely to get sucked into the formal educational system and end up being a gall bladder specialist in an industrialized country.  This deprives more primitive areas of some of the talents that would in earlier times stayed among the community.

[Tash]

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Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

Hunter gatherer Agafya Lykova is now 74 for most part lived alone in russian wilderness alone, immune to Lyme disease.....
https://youtu.be/BFK3DJ7Kn6s
She is smiling happy content.

[beertoll]

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Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

Hunter gatherer Agafya Lykova is now 74 for most part lived alone in russian wilderness alone, immune to Lyme disease.....
https://youtu.be/BFK3DJ7Kn6s
She is smiling happy content.

That is a very bad "proof" to use. All of her siblings died at the age of around 40.

[Tash]

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Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

Hunter gatherer Agafya Lykova is now 74 for most part lived alone in russian wilderness alone, immune to Lyme disease.....
https://youtu.be/BFK3DJ7Kn6s
She is smiling happy content.

That is a very bad "proof" to use. All of her siblings died at the age of around 40.

After having visitors who delivered "a very bad cough".

[beertoll]

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Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

True enough because hunter/gatherer life ways tend to make for a tough lifestyle with a lot of risks.  That says nothing about geriatrics though.  Those who survived battles (male) and childbirth (female) likely often lived as long as people do today when they were naturally hardy, and most probably were due to multi-generational selective pressures and infant mortality.

In short, if one was 'lucky' enough to make it through the risky years to, say, age 40, it would have been realtively smooth sailing up into their 70's and 80's.  Probably much more smooth than it is for many industrialized people of today.

A long life was likely associated with the 'luck' of having kids and grandkids to help them out since it is a relatively common feature of hunter/gather groups that oldsters without such were turned out of the community to die.

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Another thing I would point out is that there was likely the same 'bell curve' of people who are naturally perceptive and intelligent (and/or scammy) across place and time.  In the old days these people would stay in the community as healers and/or religious leaders.  It is quite amazing what some _real_ primitive healers were able to do with plants and such over a lifetime of studying them.  The thing which has change now is that someone from a less developed area and having some brains is likely to get sucked into the formal educational system and end up being a gall bladder specialist in an industrialized country.  This deprives more primitive areas of some of the talents that would in earlier times stayed among the community.

There is a lot of "probably" and "perhaps" and not much actual information. There is no credible information about them "... relatively smooth sailing up into their 70's and 80's."

Here is an excerpt from National Center for Case Study Teaching in Science (NCCSTS) article:

During the Paleolithic era, human life expectancy was only 33 years—roughly half of what it is today. We owe our more extended lives in part to better hygiene, medicines, and more plentiful foods. Yet some people aspire to return to that earlier era, at least at dinnertime.

https://sciencecases.lib.buffalo.edu/collection/detail.html?case_id=752&id=752


P. S. And I'm not even going to comment on the part about the witchdoctors.