Harris Vs Trump - Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election

[EarnOnVictor]

Trump is using the cryptocurrency trump card very well. He is living up to his name... One day he pays with cryptocurrencies, one day he makes positive statements about cryptocurrencies and one day his son announces that he is launching a cryptocurrency project in his name. The information obtained from big data must have told them that this area will increase their votes... Kamala Harris is more cautious on this issue. If I had a negative opinion about cryptocurrencies, I would prefer Kamala Harris' tactic...

The thing with Trump is that he will basically say whatever he thinks will make him win more votes at the moment that he is talking.

It's kinda like the truth doesn't matter any more, or even the presidential candidate's opinion, all that seems to matter is what is being said at the moment.

The presidential election is almost like a reality TV contest these days.

That is what the US get for even allowing someone like Donald Trump to contest for the president for the second time, not after what the whole world witnessed during his first administration. This guy is selfish, self-centred, dividing and inciting, the US has never had it this bad in this new age where their president/intending president would have it almost all wrong.

You can't open your mouth to say the truth but it's all about you and what you want to achieve, so you must find a crooked way to get it. As you said, the truth doesn't matter anymore and the US president's seat looks like a mockery now even as everything looks like a TV show, so we should enjoy the show as it unfolds.

Everyone do have different political views and the people directly involved in politics may have strong views towards their candidate and against competitor. But it takes a larger degree of brainwashing to speak against democracy or people's choice.
Surely, democracy is not perfect but none of the alternatives are as better as democracy. When we are talking against democratic values, we are favoring autocracy and a system which is biased towards a small group of people while exploiting the general population.

Yeah, you are valid, everyone would want to say for their preferred candidate, but one thing I am unique about is that I do not deceive myself. If my candidate has a bad side, I will plainly say it and might even stop supporting such if the issue can't be overlooked.

This is why I examine the candidates I support critically with their past and present, the wisdom and foolishness that come out of their mouths matter so much to me. After all, it is a better world we advocate for, so the right person to do the work is what every reasonable person should align with.

In fairness, using wisdom, integrity, truth and fairness, if Trump should be judged among all the contesting candidates, I am sure he would be the least, so why should I support such a guy? As you said, no better alternative to Deconcracy, but Trump doesn't regard it but always wants to have his way (even if he pretends to respect that). This is obvious in his first administration.

[tygeade]

people's perspectives on the condition of a country largely depend on their individual circumstances and requirements. Sure, American politics has its share of problems, but so does every other country. The fact that the United States remains an attractive destination for many, despite its issues, signifies the relative privilege and opportunities it continues to provide.

Comparative advantages or disadvantages notwithstanding, it's essential for the citizenry not to be complacent and continue striving for improvements and changes that promote the greater good, rather than solely focusing on selfish interests. Greed certainly plays a part in politics, but so does the capacity for empathy, ideals of justice, and the strive for a better society. It's a balance that needs to be carefully struck and maintained.

One reason why it's getting not that much attention like they used to, and only a place that immigrants from their south finds appealing, is their health care. I understand that I could go there and have a great life and I sure do hope that one day I can be a millionaire and visit them, but I wouldn't find it comfortable to visit them today, literally a free plane ticket ticket, a free hotel stay and a few thousand dollars to visit around wherever in USA wouldn't be good idea for me, I would still reject that, I would love to see Europe for that manner, but I think USA would be bad because what if I got sick there?

I would be losing my entire savings for a simple flu and I don't want that. This is why USA isn't as attractive as it used to be, because of illegal immigrants they think they are attractive, but a family who is running away from Mexico because of the cartels could of course be seeing USA  a lot better, they could simply literally just get health and then not pay and bankrupt or they are illegal to begin with.

What USA has trouble with is that whatever happens, they blame each other, nobody takes responsibility, all problems are always put on the other side as their problems, and always keep on blaming each other.

[Marvell1]

How is she better than Trump? I don't think it's fair to judge who's better based on one debate, that just makes you no different from Trump supporters. You are just trying to defend the candidate you support without providing any concrete evidence.

The debate itself is concrete evidence which is why you just sound silly here. Also, she is a lot younger than him which is a pro in her favor these days.

I don't deny that Trump was weaker in that debate, he lost that debate but to just base that on that to say she would be a better president than Trump is not convincing and there is not enough data to make that claim. I support Trump but I remember when he won the first debate against Biden, it didn't feel like a victory to me either. Just because we scored first doesn't mean we beat them when there's still time left in the game. Personally I would wait until the final election results are announced and then we will know who is better, and whether they are really good or not will be most evident in their 4 years in power.

Youth can also be considered an advantage but it is not as perfect as you think. I know an Asian proverb: "the older the ginger, the hotter the spice", and "Don’t teach your mother/grandmother to suck eggs". Older people will have more practical experience and therefore more experience, which is also the strength of the previous generation. We cannot judge who is better than who just by looking at age, instead look at their experience in the market and what they do.

[avp2306]

How is she better than Trump? I don't think it's fair to judge who's better based on one debate, that just makes you no different from Trump supporters. You are just trying to defend the candidate you support without providing any concrete evidence.

The debate itself is concrete evidence which is why you just sound silly here. Also, she is a lot younger than him which is a pro in her favor these days.

I don't deny that Trump was weaker in that debate, he lost that debate but to just base that on that to say she would be a better president than Trump is not convincing and there is not enough data to make that claim. I support Trump but I remember when he won the first debate against Biden, it didn't feel like a victory to me either. Just because we scored first doesn't mean we beat them when there's still time left in the game. Personally I would wait until the final election results are announced and then we will know who is better, and whether they are really good or not will be most evident in their 4 years in power.

Youth can also be considered an advantage but it is not as perfect as you think. I know an Asian proverb: "the older the ginger, the hotter the spice", and "Don’t teach your mother/grandmother to suck eggs". Older people will have more practical experience and therefore more experience, which is also the strength of the previous generation. We cannot judge who is better than who just by looking at age, instead look at their experience in the market and what they do.

But this defeat create thoughts that Harris is more better than Trump. Although this is just a debate but it give plus score to the candidacy of Harris. By defeating him on their debate many people would provably think that Harris is smart and they need smart President to handle their country.

Anyways its just a debate and many things would be change as the campaign period still happening. Let see the end point of this since we could able to see on election day who among them will be declared as a winner.

But for sure many bettors now are closely monitoring the poll results since this could determine who's hot candidate among them and provably they will go to candidate that has huge chance to win, although this is a close fight but let see if there's changes that will happen.

[baeva]

How is she better than Trump? I don't think it's fair to judge who's better based on one debate, that just makes you no different from Trump supporters. You are just trying to defend the candidate you support without providing any concrete evidence.

The debate itself is concrete evidence which is why you just sound silly here. Also, she is a lot younger than him which is a pro in her favor these days.

I don't deny that Trump was weaker in that debate, he lost that debate but to just base that on that to say she would be a better president than Trump is not convincing and there is not enough data to make that claim. I support Trump but I remember when he won the first debate against Biden, it didn't feel like a victory to me either. Just because we scored first doesn't mean we beat them when there's still time left in the game. Personally I would wait until the final election results are announced and then we will know who is better, and whether they are really good or not will be most evident in their 4 years in power.

Youth can also be considered an advantage but it is not as perfect as you think. I know an Asian proverb: "the older the ginger, the hotter the spice", and "Don’t teach your mother/grandmother to suck eggs". Older people will have more practical experience and therefore more experience, which is also the strength of the previous generation. We cannot judge who is better than who just by looking at age, instead look at their experience in the market and what they do.

I think the most important thing is that Trump stays sane and doesn't get sick like his predecessor, who clearly has health problems now, which contributed to his dropping out of the presidential race. Personally for me Kamala despite her victory doesn't always know what she is talking about or doesn't realise the extent of what she is saying, she can promise a lot but budgets are not rubber budgets, there just isn't enough money to do all the things she has already promised to do

[Marvell1]

But this defeat create thoughts that Harris is more better than Trump. Although this is just a debate but it give plus score to the candidacy of Harris. By defeating him on their debate many people would provably think that Harris is smart and they need smart President to handle their country.

Anyways its just a debate and many things would be change as the campaign period still happening. Let see the end point of this since we could able to see on election day who among them will be declared as a winner.

But for sure many bettors now are closely monitoring the poll results since this could determine who's hot candidate among them and provably they will go to candidate that has huge chance to win, although this is a close fight but let see if there's changes that will happen.

I agree with you, winning the debate helped Harris gain more points from voters, I don't deny that. What I want to emphasize is that it may help her win more votes but it does not represent the final outcome of the election. It's too early to say anything with more than 40 days left until the election.

Personally for me Kamala despite her victory doesn't always know what she is talking about or doesn't realise the extent of what she is saying, she can promise a lot but budgets are not rubber budgets, there just isn't enough money to do all the things she has already promised to do

Some people criticize everything Trump says and say he's exaggerating, lying... that may be true, but Harris is no different than him, she also makes statements that she doesn't know if she can keep. But that's the nature of politics and that's what politicians do during campaigns.

[Smack That Ace]

I think the most important thing is that Trump stays sane and doesn't get sick like his predecessor, who clearly has health problems now, which contributed to his dropping out of the presidential race. Personally for me Kamala despite her victory doesn't always know what she is talking about or doesn't realise the extent of what she is saying, she can promise a lot but budgets are not rubber budgets, there just isn't enough money to do all the things she has already promised to do

After all, the presidential election is also for the benefit of the United States, so if Trump has health problems like Biden, they will also find a way to replace him immediately. So you don't need to worry about his health, the Republicans know what they're doing.

To be fair, politicians will always lie and lie more during the campaign because that's the only way they can quickly win more votes. Think about it, even in everyday life, people will still doubt and not believe us even if we tell the truth. People don't want to hear the truth, people just want to hear what they think is good, that's why politicians have to lie. Lies and empty promises have been a part of politics for years, not just in the Trump or Harris races.

[Reatim]

Yeah, you are valid, everyone would want to say for their preferred candidate, but one thing I am unique about is that I do not deceive myself. If my candidate has a bad side, I will plainly say it and might even stop supporting such if the issue can't be overlooked.

This should be normalized. I think many voters are too in their heads about loyalty and patriotism that they think their candidate is a saint that can do and have never done anything wrong in their life. These candidates are not perfect and shall not be treated as such. Some politicians have done bad things but they have done also some good ones. If you were to vote, you should make sure you are voting for the lesser evil between the two and one who is more capable than the other. Having a preferred candidate does not mean that you think that that candidate is far more superior than everyone else. No, it should not be like that.

I saw many people voting for Kamala Harris only because they think she would be more open to listen and change her stances about certain topics compared to Trump. But in reality, many citizens do not think they are both worthy candidates for president. But one has to win and people would prefer if it was someone who is less worse than the other.

[nullama]

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This should be normalized. I think many voters are too in their heads about loyalty and patriotism that they think their candidate is a saint that can do and have never done anything wrong in their life. These candidates are not perfect and shall not be treated as such. Some politicians have done bad things but they have done also some good ones. If you were to vote, you should make sure you are voting for the lesser evil between the two and one who is more capable than the other. Having a preferred candidate does not mean that you think that that candidate is far more superior than everyone else. No, it should not be like that.

I saw many people voting for Kamala Harris only because they think she would be more open to listen and change her stances about certain topics compared to Trump. But in reality, many citizens do not think they are both worthy candidates for president. But one has to win and people would prefer if it was someone who is less worse than the other.

Yeah, that's the thing. Currently, specially online, most people take a very simplistic view of the world:

Person A is a saint, and person B is a devil. "We" are great, "they" are horrible. And so on.

Reality is way more interesting than that, full of nuance, and every person is capable of doing good and evil.

We are seeing a bit of a caricature of the world. In cartoons for kids you have this simplistic view of the world. The good guys, and the bad guys, very clearly differentiated.

[hedgeh0g]

Yeah, you are valid, everyone would want to say for their preferred candidate, but one thing I am unique about is that I do not deceive myself. If my candidate has a bad side, I will plainly say it and might even stop supporting such if the issue can't be overlooked.

This should be normalized. I think many voters are too in their heads about loyalty and patriotism that they think their candidate is a saint that can do and have never done anything wrong in their life. These candidates are not perfect and shall not be treated as such. Some politicians have done bad things but they have done also some good ones. If you were to vote, you should make sure you are voting for the lesser evil between the two and one who is more capable than the other. Having a preferred candidate does not mean that you think that that candidate is far more superior than everyone else. No, it should not be like that.

I saw many people voting for Kamala Harris only because they think she would be more open to listen and change her stances about certain topics compared to Trump. But in reality, many citizens do not think they are both worthy candidates for president. But one has to win and people would prefer if it was someone who is less worse than the other.

I like your position that people choose the one who will bring fewer problems. Adapting to the situation is what is important for any president, especially in today's time. However, I do not understand why only two candidates are fighting for the seat, because there were so many different candidates, I would like to see a younger one with a fresh outlook on life. Honestly, many will laugh, but I would seriously consider The Rock, but not Kaine West. I wonder if The Rock could win this election)) Also, in the next election, I will not be surprised if we see Ivanka Trump, as predicted in the Simpsons.

[Haunebu]

Youth can also be considered an advantage but it is not as perfect as you think. I know an Asian proverb: "the older the ginger, the hotter the spice", and "Don’t teach your mother/grandmother to suck eggs". Older people will have more practical experience and therefore more experience, which is also the strength of the previous generation. We cannot judge who is better than who just by looking at age, instead look at their experience in the market and what they do.

You do realise that the age factor became a topic of debate when Biden and Trump were competing earlier, don't you? Both of them were literally getting mocked on a daily basis because of their old age issues.

This is why Harris got an automatic boost when she ran for president. The world needs someone young and capable like Harris even though she isn't the best choice, but is still better than rickety old Trump whose experience doesn't do him any favours.

[verdinio]

You do realise that the age factor became a topic of debate when Biden and Trump were competing earlier, don't you? Both of them were literally getting mocked on a daily basis because of their old age issues.

This is why Harris got an automatic boost when she ran for president. The world needs someone young and capable like Harris even though she isn't the best choice, but is still better than rickety old Trump whose experience doesn't do him any favours.

Yes, I am aware that age has become a topic of debate during the Biden-Trump contest. Both were mocked daily due to their advanced age. This is why Harris received strong support when she ran for president. The world needs someone young and capable like Harris, even if she is not the best choice, she is still preferable to an elderly Trump, whose experience has not benefited him.

[Marykeller]

How is she better than Trump? I don't think it's fair to judge who's better based on one debate, that just makes you no different from Trump supporters. You are just trying to defend the candidate you support without providing any concrete evidence.

The debate itself is concrete evidence which is why you just sound silly here. Also, she is a lot younger than him which is a pro in her favor these days.

I don't deny that Trump was weaker in that debate, he lost that debate but to just base that on that to say she would be a better president than Trump is not convincing and there is not enough data to make that claim. I support Trump but I remember when he won the first debate against Biden, it didn't feel like a victory to me either. Just because we scored first doesn't mean we beat them when there's still time left in the game. Personally I would wait until the final election results are announced and then we will know who is better, and whether they are really good or not will be most evident in their 4 years in power.

Youth can also be considered an advantage but it is not as perfect as you think. I know an Asian proverb: "the older the ginger, the hotter the spice", and "Don’t teach your mother/grandmother to suck eggs". Older people will have more practical experience and therefore more experience, which is also the strength of the previous generation. We cannot judge who is better than who just by looking at age, instead look at their experience in the market and what they do.

I think the most important thing is that Trump stays sane and doesn't get sick like his predecessor, who clearly has health problems now, which contributed to his dropping out of the presidential race. Personally for me Kamala despite her victory doesn't always know what she is talking about or doesn't realise the extent of what she is saying, she can promise a lot but budgets are not rubber budgets, there just isn't enough money to do all the things she has already promised to do

Questions are being raised about Harris after the debate: why is it taking her time to put into practice what she said during the debate time since she's the one who's more sound and healthy than Biden currently? At least by now, Americans are supposed to be witnessing some change in her government, and no implementation of new laws has been made other than living on Biden's legacy.

Well, promises are easy to make, and how to accomplish and get them fulfilled is where the problems lie. Harris and Trump have given all their campaign promises, where the Americans waits for them is when they assume to office, only then will they know how capable and trustworthy their presidential candidates can be.

[bitgolden]

Some people criticize everything Trump says and say he's exaggerating, lying... that may be true, but Harris is no different than him, she also makes statements that she doesn't know if she can keep. But that's the nature of politics and that's what politicians do during campaigns.

I think the problem with Trump is that he already did a four years, and people don't know what a Kamala for four years would look like. Sure she was the VP, and a lot of people think that Biden is incapable of running the nation right now and sick, so it is secretly Kamala that is the president and not Biden, hell even Trump is making up statistics showing "under trump vs under kamala" when in fact kamala never ruled the nation, she was just VP, it is like being senator plus, nothing special, as long as the president is alive, VP has limited powers and can't do much, trump and his voters must consider Kamala doing everything she wants and Biden being ok with all of it if they think Kamala is running the nation.

In short, the chance Kamala has, is because she hasn't managed the nation yet, and that means we have seen Trump, but we haven't seen Kamala, and Trump time was terrible, Kamala could be better. Maybe it is not, maybe if Kamala ruled for four years and then faced Trump then she would lose easily, but right now it's unknown. This is why people may prefer Kamala.

Also people are sick and tired of Trump and they know if Kamala wins this one, Trump will be gone, never candidate again, and that's why they want her too.

[STT]

Trump being weaker in debate wasnt as important this time.   This is due to variance in opinion and some will believe he won the debate even.   Part of this is why he wont debate again.  He wants to retain the few who think well of his performance not make it worse.

With biden a clear consensus formed against his performance.   It literally altered the polls.  This time not so much of that.

Biden was never strong speech wise.  He wasn't picked as VP for that but for experience.  It was incorrect to force him to stand down while he was still good for the fight.  People judged off appearance basically.   Harris might have a better facade but be a worse candidate and people dont realize that yet.

My main point being consensus matters it will win or lose this election.  Don't worry about 'he said she said' politics, nobody is perfect in politics some are awful.

[FanEagle]

I don't deny that Trump was weaker in that debate, he lost that debate but to just base that on that to say she would be a better president than Trump is not convincing and there is not enough data to make that claim. I support Trump but I remember when he won the first debate against Biden, it didn't feel like a victory to me either. Just because we scored first doesn't mean we beat them when there's still time left in the game. Personally I would wait until the final election results are announced and then we will know who is better, and whether they are really good or not will be most evident in their 4 years in power.

Youth can also be considered an advantage but it is not as perfect as you think. I know an Asian proverb: "the older the ginger, the hotter the spice", and "Don’t teach your mother/grandmother to suck eggs". Older people will have more practical experience and therefore more experience, which is also the strength of the previous generation. We cannot judge who is better than who just by looking at age, instead look at their experience in the market and what they do.

It's proven that it's rarely actually deciding factor to have a debate. Whoever wins the debate, doesn't guarantee winning the whole thing, plus media can make it look whatever they want.

You think FOX ended up talking about how trump lost the debate by a marginally clear loss? Of course not, FOX probably just ended up cutting bits and chunks of the videos and made him look good, and you think trump fans follow ABC? Of course not, they get their news from FOX so all they heard was how awesome Trump was and how terrible Kamala was.

This works both ways, we probably end up seeing other side praising Kamala a lot, this time that makes sense because clearly Kamal won, but even if she lost, they would praise her, just like they did to Biden.

So all in all, there isn't really any clear winner for anyone. This is like a team sports thing, you do not switch teams just because your team is doing badly, your team close all the games they have, but you are not going to start supporting other team, people support their party like a team and they will go down with their candidate no matter how bad their candidate is. That's sad but that's a fact and debate makes no change at all. Only thing that decides the winner is if your voter goes out to vote or not, that's it.

[TwitchySeal]

Yeah, you are valid, everyone would want to say for their preferred candidate, but one thing I am unique about is that I do not deceive myself. If my candidate has a bad side, I will plainly say it and might even stop supporting such if the issue can't be overlooked.

This should be normalized. I think many voters are too in their heads about loyalty and patriotism that they think their candidate is a saint that can do and have never done anything wrong in their life.

That's literally what democrats did after Biden had a bad debate.

[nullama]

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That's literally what democrats did after Biden had a bad debate.

I find this such a simplistic view of the world... the US at the moment has about 50% of their voting population on each side...

Saying democrats to label half the country, millions of people, makes little sense to me.

This reminded me of the "folders vs scrunchers" thing from the toilet... some people fold their toilet paper, others "scrunch" it, and they are usually unaware of the other type...

It's like me saying that "folders" have certain characteristic... and "scrunchers" have another... that's not really how we humans work. Each one of us is a complex being with multiple ideas and unique experiences.

[Taskford]

Some people criticize everything Trump says and say he's exaggerating, lying... that may be true, but Harris is no different than him, she also makes statements that she doesn't know if she can keep. But that's the nature of politics and that's what politicians do during campaigns.

I think the problem with Trump is that he already did a four years, and people don't know what a Kamala for four years would look like. Sure she was the VP, and a lot of people think that Biden is incapable of running the nation right now and sick, so it is secretly Kamala that is the president and not Biden, hell even Trump is making up statistics showing "under trump vs under kamala" when in fact kamala never ruled the nation, she was just VP, it is like being senator plus, nothing special, as long as the president is alive, VP has limited powers and can't do much, trump and his voters must consider Kamala doing everything she wants and Biden being ok with all of it if they think Kamala is running the nation.

In short, the chance Kamala has, is because she hasn't managed the nation yet, and that means we have seen Trump, but we haven't seen Kamala, and Trump time was terrible, Kamala could be better. Maybe it is not, maybe if Kamala ruled for four years and then faced Trump then she would lose easily, but right now it's unknown. This is why people may prefer Kamala.

Also people are sick and tired of Trump and they know if Kamala wins this one, Trump will be gone, never candidate again, and that's why they want her too.

Exactly many are familiar with past deeds made by Trump that's why they lose their trust towards everything he says in his campaign. We already see the poll result that its like many people are now in favor with Harris since maybe they want something change to happen since they didn't see yet what a women can do when successfully they take the seat of power.

But we don't know what will happen in future unless we can experience on how they handle their country. For now what crypto people look forward is good regulation to happen if Trump wins. But I guess call out for change and create history is like the main priority of voters so let see if there's something good will happen to bitcoin if Harris will win. Hopefully she will not do any crazy actions or decisions the same as what Biden did.

[Kemarit]

I think the most important thing is that Trump stays sane and doesn't get sick like his predecessor, who clearly has health problems now, which contributed to his dropping out of the presidential race. Personally for me Kamala despite her victory doesn't always know what she is talking about or doesn't realise the extent of what she is saying, she can promise a lot but budgets are not rubber budgets, there just isn't enough money to do all the things she has already promised to do

After all, the presidential election is also for the benefit of the United States, so if Trump has health problems like Biden, they will also find a way to replace him immediately. So you don't need to worry about his health, the Republicans know what they're doing.

Yeah, both are really old, but I think Trump is healthier that Biden. And probably that's why we have a VP, in case a President can't function "normally", he or she could be replace by his Vice-President.

To be fair, politicians will always lie and lie more during the campaign because that's the only way they can quickly win more votes. Think about it, even in everyday life, people will still doubt and not believe us even if we tell the truth. People don't want to hear the truth, people just want to hear what they think is good, that's why politicians have to lie. Lies and empty promises have been a part of politics for years, not just in the Trump or Harris races.

It's true, and I think voters have known this since the first election of Trump. And then he has also some court cases against him. So there's a lot of him on the line in this election. Although Trump knowns how to tickle his voters, specially crypto enthusiast when he goes to say that he will support it and so if elected, he should be the first one of this so called pro-crypto US President.