Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

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The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The two boxers once faced each other for a fight that was scheduled for 2021 but has been canceled due to the virulent covid pandemic at the time, so it will not be difficult for companies/organizations to reunite the two in a spectacular fighting event. Casimero has been aiming to fight Inoue after concluding his fight against Ryo Akaho, so I hope Casimero goes straight to Inoue for his next fight. I'll be waiting for official information about his fight schedule at the beginning of this year.

[lionheart78]

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The thing here is if the promoter of Inoue would consider a fight with Casimero.  It was Bob Arum's fault that the second chance for both boxer to fight got dissolve.  Remember the 1st fight were canceled due to the pandemic and the second possible fight did not materialize because Bob Arum has a different thing in mind.  The fight Inoue - Moloney should be Inoue - Casimero but then Bob Arum has another plan and agreed with the Inoue - Moloney.

It is indeed easy for these to boxer to meet in the ring but their promoter made it difficult.

[Fredomago]

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The thing here is if the promoter of Inoue would consider a fight with Casimero.  It was Bob Arum's fault that the second chance for both boxer to fight got dissolve.  Remember the 1st fight were canceled due to the pandemic and the second possible fight did not materialize because Bob Arum has a different thing in mind.  The fight Inoue - Moloney should be Inoue - Casimero but then Bob Arum has another plan and agreed with the Inoue - Moloney.

It is indeed easy for these to boxer to meet in the ring but their promoter made it difficult.

Bob Arum is more on the money side, if there are many readers who can be converted to a possible viewer/ticket sales, maybe Arum will consider this possibility, for now, he still leaning with his cash cow Inoue and he needs to maximize all the profits that he can earned from his champ, still have a chance for Casimero but like what I said above he need to make his way to bring his name up inside the division and force the fans to bring him to an option for Inoue's fight.

[Baofeng]

After Jose Ramirez turns down Regis Prograis because he was disappointed by the 65/35 purse split, now he chooses to fight the former Lightweight champion in Richard Commey to be his next opponent.

Fans say that it was a clear duck on his end, avoiding Prograis. We can't really tell because he is hiding on the purse split issue. Because he is a former champion and could demand higher in my opinion. But he has move forward already with RC so let's see if he can make good win here and probably he will get at least 50/50 purse split with the champion Prograis.

For me too but of course, he won't admit it, that's protecting his pride and ego.
It was the opportunity to take the Super lightweight belt from Prograis which most boxers will be willing to take and yet he passed on the opportunity just because of the money issue. That doesn't sound right and the fans will surely create a theory about why and now it's become one of the trending talks.
I am not sure how he will become a champion by cowering like that. The only solution that I can see is when another boxer steals it from Prograis and then Ramirez thinks he can take the new champion even with an offer of the same split.

Make sense, since Prograis is really making a headline now in 140 lbs, and I think this is his time to be the 140 lbs because he was close to it, just losing to the unified champion Josh Taylor. Many fight thought didn't happen because of money issues, as you have said this boxers has ego and pride within them and they wanted more money on every fight.

I think this is cherry pick fight for him, fighting a former 135 lbs who moves up in weight. His name is good to have in his resume, but Ramirez should face the champion like Prograis is he wanted to get his belt back.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Rico Verhoeven unfortunately got injured while training. As a result, he cannot fight against a new opponent from Croatia Plazibat in March. He is very disappointed about this, he wanted to fight in March. Glory did say and has been confirmed by Verhoeven's management that the fight will still take place this year. But this year is just 2 weeks old, so that can also be halfway through the year. Very disappointing for the Kickbox fans, we would have loved to see this match in March. Verhoeven is usually never injured. Hopefully it's not too serious. He is also busy with an acting career. I expected him to have already said goodbye to the ring.

[Jating]

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The thing here is if the promoter of Inoue would consider a fight with Casimero.  It was Bob Arum's fault that the second chance for both boxer to fight got dissolve.  Remember the 1st fight were canceled due to the pandemic and the second possible fight did not materialize because Bob Arum has a different thing in mind.  The fight Inoue - Moloney should be Inoue - Casimero but then Bob Arum has another plan and agreed with the Inoue - Moloney.

It is indeed easy for these to boxer to meet in the ring but their promoter made it difficult.

Bob Arum is more on the money side, if there are many readers who can be converted to a possible viewer/ticket sales, maybe Arum will consider this possibility, for now, he still leaning with his cash cow Inoue and he needs to maximize all the profits that he can earned from his champ, still have a chance for Casimero but like what I said above he need to make his way to bring his name up inside the division and force the fans to bring him to an option for Inoue's fight.

I think it's more on Inoue's fault why he didn't get the chance to fight Inoue. All he had to do is make weight and win the fight against Butler. Now, it's getter harder for him to call out Inoue because he has no belt and not even recognized top 5 in any of the body in his new weight class.

So forget about Casimero for now, the focus of Arum is Inoue against the champion in 122 lbs like Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev. That is where the money is right now, not Casimero to be honest.

[Fredomago]

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The thing here is if the promoter of Inoue would consider a fight with Casimero.  It was Bob Arum's fault that the second chance for both boxer to fight got dissolve.  Remember the 1st fight were canceled due to the pandemic and the second possible fight did not materialize because Bob Arum has a different thing in mind.  The fight Inoue - Moloney should be Inoue - Casimero but then Bob Arum has another plan and agreed with the Inoue - Moloney.

It is indeed easy for these to boxer to meet in the ring but their promoter made it difficult.

Bob Arum is more on the money side, if there are many readers who can be converted to a possible viewer/ticket sales, maybe Arum will consider this possibility, for now, he still leaning with his cash cow Inoue and he needs to maximize all the profits that he can earned from his champ, still have a chance for Casimero but like what I said above he need to make his way to bring his name up inside the division and force the fans to bring him to an option for Inoue's fight.

I think it's more on Inoue's fault why he didn't get the chance to fight Inoue. All he had to do is make weight and win the fight against Butler. Now, it's getter harder for him to call out Inoue because he has no belt and not even recognized top 5 in any of the body in his new weight class.

So forget about Casimero for now, the focus of Arum is Inoue against the champion in 122 lbs like Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev. That is where the money is right now, not Casimero to be honest.

Yes, it's Casimero's fault why he didn't get that chance. I know it's just a typo from your statement, but it's really a missed opportunity to defend his title and take that fight against Butler. A mandatory fight that might bring them both in the situation where he and Inoue will not have any chance aside from climbing to another division if ever both of them still holding the belts.

We might have another chance if, in case that fate really brings them inside the ring, both Casimero will be in 122lbs a great chance to see them if they will continue fighting and winning their ways for the title belts.

[YuginKadoya]

The two boxers once faced each other for a fight that was scheduled for 2021 but has been canceled due to the virulent covid pandemic at the time, so it will not be difficult for companies/organizations to reunite the two in a spectacular fighting event. Casimero has been aiming to fight Inoue after concluding his fight against Ryo Akaho, so I hope Casimero goes straight to Inoue for his next fight. I'll be waiting for official information about his fight schedule at the beginning of this year.

The Probability that they will fight is there but it was very low, and because of the previous issue on what John Riel Casimero did it has caused him to secure this fight or maybe it affected and prolonged the fight well I was really frustrated hearing something about this, and it is because Casimero was really stubborn to the point he has made something illegal before the fight, Pretty much, in my opinion, it is very slim for now in seeing the John Riel Casimero VS Naoya Inoue fight, even though both are taunting each other with comments that both are afraid of one another and yeah it still not official, that they will surely make this real,

The thing here is if the promoter of Inoue would consider a fight with Casimero.  It was Bob Arum's fault that the second chance for both boxer to fight got dissolve.  Remember the 1st fight were canceled due to the pandemic and the second possible fight did not materialize because Bob Arum has a different thing in mind.  The fight Inoue - Moloney should be Inoue - Casimero but then Bob Arum has another plan and agreed with the Inoue - Moloney.

It is indeed easy for these to boxer to meet in the ring but their promoter made it difficult.

We can not blame Bob Arum about the Pandemic because all events were canceled from that point, all of the earth was on Lockdown because of the virus and the way people live has been halted by the Pandemic, but on the 2nd time that the two might meet I think Bob Arum definitely change his mind and think about something that will surely give him a lot of money and by that time Naoya Inoue is really his cash cow right now, this is really an opportunity of a lifetime for him for having an undefeated Unified champion, on his hands,

[Baofeng]

Ok seems there has been a lot of speculation on Inoue's moving up to 122 lbs, so finally we have the official statement already.

“In 2023, I would like to move up one weight class and challenge the super bantamweight division. It's the perfect match, but there's nothing left to do in this bantamweight division, and there's no opponent I want to fight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-confirms-plans-vacate-undisputed-bantamweight-crown-campaign-122-pound-divisions--171783

So there we have it, official now, he put notice to the champion in 122 lbs that he is coming for their belts and most likely will go for it the first chance he will be given in this new weight class.  Stephen Fulton (who seems to be ducking as there are rumors that he wants to move up), and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, the WBA and IBF holder are two of the champion that Inoue is targeting.

[danherbias07]

Bob Arum is more on the money side, if there are many readers who can be converted to a possible viewer/ticket sales, maybe Arum will consider this possibility, for now, he still leaning with his cash cow Inoue and he needs to maximize all the profits that he can earned from his champ, still have a chance for Casimero but like what I said above he need to make his way to bring his name up inside the division and force the fans to bring him to an option for Inoue's fight.

I think he knows how Filipino fighters could be difficult to deal with. Well, Manny Pacquiao made that happen. There might be money in it but it will jeopardize the career of his players. He did well at avoiding boxers that would be a threat to making a record happen.
It's not a conspiracy theory anymore, it's all business.

Make sense, since Prograis is really making a headline now in 140 lbs, and I think this is his time to be the 140 lbs because he was close to it, just losing to the unified champion Josh Taylor. Many fight thought didn't happen because of money issues, as you have said this boxers has ego and pride within them and they wanted more money on every fight.

I think this is cherry pick fight for him, fighting a former 135 lbs who moves up in weight. His name is good to have in his resume, but Ramirez should face the champion like Prograis is he wanted to get his belt back.

It ain't old-style boxing anymore where they always talk about taking the belt from another boxer.
It's money and pay-per-view from hereon to the next generation. They became witty and it's always business first, not just for the promoter anymore but also for the boxer. I get it, their lives are on the line for every fight but it's not for the fans anymore which makes it sad.

[Shamm]

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The thing here is if the promoter of Inoue would consider a fight with Casimero.  It was Bob Arum's fault that the second chance for both boxer to fight got dissolve.  Remember the 1st fight were canceled due to the pandemic and the second possible fight did not materialize because Bob Arum has a different thing in mind.  The fight Inoue - Moloney should be Inoue - Casimero but then Bob Arum has another plan and agreed with the Inoue - Moloney.

It is indeed easy for these to boxer to meet in the ring but their promoter made it difficult.

Bob Arum is more on the money side, if there are many readers who can be converted to a possible viewer/ticket sales, maybe Arum will consider this possibility, for now, he still leaning with his cash cow Inoue and he needs to maximize all the profits that he can earned from his champ, still have a chance for Casimero but like what I said above he need to make his way to bring his name up inside the division and force the fans to bring him to an option for Inoue's fight.

Bob arum don't want a small fights because it will be a small income so if casimero want to face inuoe he must bring his name back to the top when he is very popular and many fans will admire him so that arum get the attention and have a good fight against the monster inuoe cause the more fans who are interested to watch then the more the ticket sales and easy money for the those people who are aiming good profit.

[mirakal]

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The two boxers once faced each other for a fight that was scheduled for 2021 but has been canceled due to the virulent covid pandemic at the time, so it will not be difficult for companies/organizations to reunite the two in a spectacular fighting event. Casimero has been aiming to fight Inoue after concluding his fight against Ryo Akaho, so I hope Casimero goes straight to Inoue for his next fight. I'll be waiting for official information about his fight schedule at the beginning of this year.

That is the main reason why I'm still hoping and rooting that Naoya Inoue will have his first stop to check the waters first before facing the WBO holder, Steph Fulton, and will face John Riel Casimero instead for his debut in super-bantamweight division. It will be a nice welcoming year present for the fans all over the world who are rooting for the cancelled fight last 2021. Like you, I'm waiting as well for Inoue's final announcement because he already gave an early teaser that he will be having a fight this coming April or May.

[Fredomago]

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The two boxers once faced each other for a fight that was scheduled for 2021 but has been canceled due to the virulent covid pandemic at the time, so it will not be difficult for companies/organizations to reunite the two in a spectacular fighting event. Casimero has been aiming to fight Inoue after concluding his fight against Ryo Akaho, so I hope Casimero goes straight to Inoue for his next fight. I'll be waiting for official information about his fight schedule at the beginning of this year.

That is the main reason why I'm still hoping and rooting that Naoya Inoue will have his first stop to check the waters first before facing the WBO holder, Steph Fulton, and will face John Riel Casimero instead for his debut in super-bantamweight division. It will be a nice welcoming year present for the fans all over the world who are rooting for the cancelled fight last 2021. Like you, I'm waiting as well for Inoue's final announcement because he already gave an early teaser that he will be having a fight this coming April or May.

Hopefully it will happen, we don't  really know the exact plan yet and who knows maybe they will go to that route facing Casimero first before moving and challenging Fulton, or maybe he's planning to make a shortcut to collect another belts as he's really aiming to make a record on his own.

Whatever it is, the final announcement will be the deciding factor for fans who's waiting for Inoue's next fight.

[Jawhead999]

There's a news where Ra'eese Aleem calling out Naoya Inoue to fight with him, he was won WBA interim belt at 2021 and currently become the top 6 boxer in super bantamweight boxer. If it's happen, I think there's no way Casimero can fight with Inoue since he's not even on top 10.

Aleem is really confident enough and seems like many articles are discuss about possible fight between him and Inoue.

"I would love to be the first man to hand Naoya Inoue his first loss," said Aleem. "I believe Inoue is a true champion, one who is willing to take on all comers, unlike some of the champions in my division currently. He is regarded as one of the best fighters of his era, and I truly see myself as the man to dethrone him."

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

There's a news where Ra'eese Aleem calling out Naoya Inoue to fight with him, he was won WBA interim belt at 2021 and currently become the top 6 boxer in super bantamweight boxer. If it's happen, I think there's no way Casimero can fight with Inoue since he's not even on top 10.

Aleem is really confident enough and seems like many articles are discuss about possible fight between him and Inoue.

"I would love to be the first man to hand Naoya Inoue his first loss," said Aleem. "I believe Inoue is a true champion, one who is willing to take on all comers, unlike some of the champions in my division currently. He is regarded as one of the best fighters of his era, and I truly see myself as the man to dethrone him."

That's what they say before the fight, and the closest that we can see someone defeated Inoue is Donaire on their first fight. On the second, it was a different version of Inoue, too fast too strong for Nonito.

So I doubt that Aleem has something special to upset Inoue even at 122 lbs.

Maybe he just wanted to have his biggest paycheck because it is a death wish right now for anyone to fight the Monster.

[danherbias07]

There's a news where Ra'eese Aleem calling out Naoya Inoue to fight with him, he was won WBA interim belt at 2021 and currently become the top 6 boxer in super bantamweight boxer. If it's happen, I think there's no way Casimero can fight with Inoue since he's not even on top 10.

Aleem is really confident enough and seems like many articles are discuss about possible fight between him and Inoue.

"I would love to be the first man to hand Naoya Inoue his first loss," said Aleem. "I believe Inoue is a true champion, one who is willing to take on all comers, unlike some of the champions in my division currently. He is regarded as one of the best fighters of his era, and I truly see myself as the man to dethrone him."

Everyone wants to blemish that perfect record of Inoue.  
Aleem has a perfect record too so this could be possible. Let Inoue taste the higher weight class first against a perfect record Aleem before they put him against the champion.
I mean, for Inoue's camp that should be the perfect setting instead of rushing his way to the champ because that might end up being a tragedy instead of a celebration. It's not like he is old and in a hurry to achieve that same record-breaking feat that he did in bantamweight.
Fans will definitely want to see this one happen.

[Baofeng]

There's a news where Ra'eese Aleem calling out Naoya Inoue to fight with him, he was won WBA interim belt at 2021 and currently become the top 6 boxer in super bantamweight boxer. If it's happen, I think there's no way Casimero can fight with Inoue since he's not even on top 10.

Aleem is really confident enough and seems like many articles are discuss about possible fight between him and Inoue.

"I would love to be the first man to hand Naoya Inoue his first loss," said Aleem. "I believe Inoue is a true champion, one who is willing to take on all comers, unlike some of the champions in my division currently. He is regarded as one of the best fighters of his era, and I truly see myself as the man to dethrone him."

Everyone wants to blemish that perfect record of Inoue.  
Aleem has a perfect record too so this could be possible. Let Inoue taste the higher weight class first against a perfect record Aleem before they put him against the champion.
I mean, for Inoue's camp that should be the perfect setting instead of rushing his way to the champ because that might end up being a tragedy instead of a celebration. It's not like he is old and in a hurry to achieve that same record-breaking feat that he did in bantamweight.
Fans will definitely want to see this one happen.

Yeah, I like Inoue vs Allem fight, Allem is not that bad, rank number 4 by WBC and IBF, so this is going to be a good test for Inoue, sort of welcoming fight for him in 122 lbs.

I think Arum knows that Inoue can take the champion here that's why they are in the rush for him fighting either Fulton and Akhmadaliev. But then again, this i a new weight class so it's better to test himself first against a good boxer in the level of Aleem and then from then on, calls out the champion after a statement win.

[yazher]

Yeah, I like Inoue vs Allem fight, Allem is not that bad, rank number 4 by WBC and IBF, so this is going to be a good test for Inoue, sort of welcoming fight for him in 122 lbs.

He really needs that fight to get used to his new weight division and if he will have no problem beating his opponent, then dominating this division will be an easy job for him. He really works hard to unify all the major belts in his prime and now he is still in good shape to also push forward to create a history for himself that would be another long quest for him until he also becomes a unified champion here. Casimero should really work to get him at this point if he wants to get an opportunity to prove himself against Inoue or else he will retire from boxing thinking about what might gonna happen if they were given chance to fight against each other.

[YuginKadoya]

Here are the results of the fight for MF & DAZN X Series 4: KSI vs. FaZe Temperrr


MAIN EVENT

Olajide Olatunji(KSI) DEF Thomas Oliveira(TEMPERRR) ROUND 1 KO/TKO

MAIN CARD

Sulieman Albaher DEF Tom Zanetti ROUND 4 DECISION
Busta Breezie(Salt Papi) DEF Josh Brueckner("G.I.") ROUND 2 KO/TKO
Luis Alcaraz Pineda DEF Bdave
Brandon Scott(SWARMZ) DEF Ryan Taylor(THE HEADBUTT KING)
Elle Brooke DEF Faith Ordway
Idris Virgo DEF Anthony Taylor(PRETTYBOY)

In events like this surely all fighters are not really professional boxers but you can see how dedicated they are when it comes to this craft, and if there are many more like this event, and not aiming for the KSI VS Jake Paul fight because he wants a rematch

[harizen]

But then again, this i a new weight class so it's better to test himself first against a good boxer in the level of Aleem and then from then on, calls out the champion after a statement win.

Agree with and that definitely should be considered. Even If Inoue's capability can surely adapt right away to the change of environment from 118 lbs to 122 lbs, a new environment is still a new environment. Too much confidence might wreck all future plans.

Since it's now official that Inoue will move up, the community is now waiting on how Arum will play his cards.

Hard to speculate who will be his debut fight at the Super Bantamweight.