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May 14, 2014, 08:52:28 PM
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well i see the dev is mining curecoin

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Any miner updates?Huh

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May 15, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
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Any miner updates?Huh
We have a lot of progress in speeding-up the miner.
The problem is that MadMax's miner (and miners based on its code) is still faster.
We see no point in releasing new version of our miner untill we have a faster miner.
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May 15, 2014, 02:12:30 PM
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Any miner updates?Huh
We have a lot of progress in speeding-up the miner.
The problem is that MadMax's miner (and miners based on its code) is still faster.
We see no point in releasing new version of our miner untill we have a faster miner.
logically based on what you said at the beginning, it is time to open-source (and I paid a licence for your soft)

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May 15, 2014, 02:39:30 PM
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Any miner updates?Huh
We have a lot of progress in speeding-up the miner.
The problem is that MadMax's miner (and miners based on its code) is still faster.
We see no point in releasing new version of our miner untill we have a faster miner.

At least primeGPU got the balls to say madMax's miner is faster and not use the improvement without giving credits.
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May 15, 2014, 03:12:47 PM
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logically based on what you said at the beginning, it is time to open-source (and I paid a licence for your soft)
Do you realise that once we open source it, there won't be any more updates?
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May 15, 2014, 03:30:04 PM
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logically based on what you said at the beginning, it is time to open-source (and I paid a licence for your soft)
Do you realise that once we open source it, there won't be any more updates?
Actually I didn't realise that. Open Source in my opinion allows to bring new ideas.
But in view how it works with xpm (the so called open source has 1 undisclosed binary, only after a few days... then some other part are used
for the other fully closed...), that may not be a great idea after all and not really what I was expecting lets be honnest...

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May 15, 2014, 03:47:05 PM
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logically based on what you said at the beginning, it is time to open-source (and I paid a licence for your soft)
Do you realise that once we open source it, there won't be any more updates?
Actually I didn't realise that. Open Source in my opinion allows to bring new ideas.
But in view how it works with xpm (the so called open source has 1 undisclosed binary, only after a few days... then some other part are used
for the other fully closed...), that may not be a great idea after all and not really what I was expecting lets be honnest...

Which one was that?
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May 15, 2014, 03:56:49 PM
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I download this version of the prime-gpu-free, which is free of charge! But I put him such errors in BAT:
Error: incorrect rpcuser or rpcpassword (authorization failed) I set the IP port user name password wallet also set up a wallet
Prime-gpu-so-280x.2.01 -o 127.0.0.1:7332 -u uuio -p 123 -xpm AUkNcEgAH7dZAM8WaNt8zVGXP77oK7wQgJ -cpuusage=8
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May 15, 2014, 03:57:46 PM
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logically based on what you said at the beginning, it is time to open-source (and I paid a licence for your soft)
Do you realise that once we open source it, there won't be any more updates?
Actually I didn't realise that. Open Source in my opinion allows to bring new ideas.
But in view how it works with xpm (the so called open source has 1 undisclosed binary, only after a few days... then some other part are used
for the other fully closed...), that may not be a great idea after all and not really what I was expecting lets be honnest...

Which one was that?
The last one... something working with a bin file in a patch isn't something I call open source.

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May 15, 2014, 04:10:21 PM
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logically based on what you said at the beginning, it is time to open-source (and I paid a licence for your soft)
Do you realise that once we open source it, there won't be any more updates?
Actually I didn't realise that. Open Source in my opinion allows to bring new ideas.
But in view how it works with xpm (the so called open source has 1 undisclosed binary, only after a few days... then some other part are used
for the other fully closed...), that may not be a great idea after all and not really what I was expecting lets be honnest...

Which one was that?
The last one... something working with a bin file in a patch isn't something I call open source.

If you are referring to:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602292.msg6710729#msg6710729
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602292.msg6714779#msg6714779

You got it wrong. Do you not need the bin files, what are necessary are the .cl files; the bin files were provided for convenience .. as the communication wasn't that clear, it was not indicated what card the bin were compiled for. I suspected it could be for 290. Anyway you just need to put the .cl files (gpu folder) and run the client, it will automatically compile the .cl into .bin (though you need Catalyst 14 files even if you are using Catalyst 13.12 as the compiler produces error).

TL;DR version: The instruction might not have been provided by the dev (though I did in one of the post) but source codes were there.
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May 15, 2014, 04:31:29 PM
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logically based on what you said at the beginning, it is time to open-source (and I paid a licence for your soft)
Do you realise that once we open source it, there won't be any more updates?
Actually I didn't realise that. Open Source in my opinion allows to bring new ideas.
But in view how it works with xpm (the so called open source has 1 undisclosed binary, only after a few days... then some other part are used
for the other fully closed...), that may not be a great idea after all and not really what I was expecting lets be honnest...

Which one was that?
The last one... something working with a bin file in a patch isn't something I call open source.

If you are referring to:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602292.msg6710729#msg6710729
and
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602292.msg6714779#msg6714779

You got it wrong. Do you not need the bin files, what are necessary are the .cl files; the bin files were provided for convenience .. as the communication wasn't that clear, it was not indicated what card the bin were compiled for. I suspected it could be for 290. Anyway you just need to put the .cl files (gpu folder) and run the client, it will automatically compile the .cl into .bin (though you need Catalyst 14 files even if you are using Catalyst 13.12 as the compiler produces error).

TL;DR version: The instruction might not have been provided by the dev (though I did in one of the post) but source codes were there.
The corresponding cl to that binary hasn't been released (it is a mix of the first open source which had a faster fermat code and the second open source if I understood well). Also there wouldn't  be any profit if it was just a bin compiled for a different card...

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May 15, 2014, 04:37:24 PM
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Any miner updates?Huh
We have a lot of progress in speeding-up the miner.
The problem is that MadMax's miner (and miners based on its code) is still faster.
We see no point in releasing new version of our miner untill we have a faster miner.

Personally I just don't want to deal with all the setup required for the other miners and also deal with pools & downtime because of ddos attacks. Even if it is slower I would still prefer upgraded version from what we have at this moment.
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May 15, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
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logically based on what you said at the beginning, it is time to open-source (and I paid a licence for your soft)
Do you realise that once we open source it, there won't be any more updates?
Actually I didn't realise that. Open Source in my opinion allows to bring new ideas.
But in view how it works with xpm (the so called open source has 1 undisclosed binary, only after a few days... then some other part are used
for the other fully closed...), that may not be a great idea after all and not really what I was expecting lets be honnest...

Which one was that?
The last one... something working with a bin file in a patch isn't something I call open source.

If you are referring to:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602292.msg6710729#msg6710729
and
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602292.msg6714779#msg6714779

You got it wrong. Do you not need the bin files, what are necessary are the .cl files; the bin files were provided for convenience .. as the communication wasn't that clear, it was not indicated what card the bin were compiled for. I suspected it could be for 290. Anyway you just need to put the .cl files (gpu folder) and run the client, it will automatically compile the .cl into .bin (though you need Catalyst 14 files even if you are using Catalyst 13.12 as the compiler produces error).

TL;DR version: The instruction might not have been provided by the dev (though I did in one of the post) but source codes were there.
The corresponding cl to that binary hasn't been released (it is a mix of the first open source which had a faster fermat code and the second open source if I understood well). Also there wouldn't  be any profit if it was just a bin compiled for a different card...

Anyway, this would be my last post on other miners in primeGPU's thread. Further qns can be posted to eXtremal's thread.

So far, eXtremal has been opening up his sources so I doubt it is the case. The first file he released has the cl files for 10ch version. The patch_11_v2 has the cl files for 11ch version.

eXtremal said earlier:
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Mining algorithm consists of two parts - sieve and Fermat test. madPrimeMiner have very fast sieve and slow non-optimized Fermat test, xpmclminer have too poor sieve, but fast Fermat test. I will merge two miners code for create fastest XPM miner.

Basically he just needed to improve madmax's Fermat test code, which was what he did, and it would be the better version compared to madmax and eXtremal's original codes. (xpmclminer was eXtremal open-source code, the first one before madMax released his).
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May 15, 2014, 04:59:06 PM
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Any miner updates?Huh
We have a lot of progress in speeding-up the miner.
The problem is that MadMax's miner (and miners based on its code) is still faster.
We see no point in releasing new version of our miner untill we have a faster miner.

Personally I just don't want to deal with all the setup required for the other miners and also deal with pools & downtime because of ddos attacks. Even if it is slower I would still prefer upgraded version from what we have at this moment.

Crypto-currencies is a fast-paced world with various parameters put into play when it comes to calculating profitability, something anyone into this is concerned about. Unless you are all about supporting a particular coin.

Glad that you are a supporter of Primecoin.
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June 01, 2014, 10:05:01 AM
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guess no more updates huh  what a kick in the ass to the license holders not even a post to let us know if u are even doing anything

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June 01, 2014, 10:14:05 AM
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now i see he cant make it faster so he gave up and is all in on curecoin thats really messed up and he didnt hold to his promises either about going opensource i think he should just give back the xpm to every license holder at least since it seem he doesnt care about his customers

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June 01, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
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now i see he cant make it faster so he gave up and is all in on curecoin thats really messed up and he didnt hold to his promises either about going opensource i think he should just give back the xpm to every license holder at least since it seem he does care about his customers
right, I accept payment in curecoin  Grin

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June 01, 2014, 12:51:30 PM
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now i see he cant make it faster so he gave up and is all in on curecoin thats really messed up and he didnt hold to his promises either about going opensource i think he should just give back the xpm to every license holder at least since it seem he does care about his customers
We don't do development for Curecoin. Mining Curecoin is less profitable than XPM with other miners, but we just don't feel like using other XPM miners on our rigs.
It took us 3 months to develop the first version (1.2 CPD on a 280x). Spending more than a couple of weeks to go from 2.9 CPD into 6+ CPD is perfectly fine.
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June 01, 2014, 04:38:45 PM
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now i see he cant make it faster so he gave up and is all in on curecoin thats really messed up and he didnt hold to his promises either about going opensource i think he should just give back the xpm to every license holder at least since it seem he doesnt care about his customers
We don't do development for Curecoin. Mining Curecoin is less profitable than XPM with other miners, but we just don't feel like using other XPM miners on our rigs.
It took us 3 months to develop the first version (1.2 CPD on a 280x). Spending more than a couple of weeks to go from 2.9 CPD into 6+ CPD is perfectly fine.

its been almost a month since your last update and leaving us in the dark with no status update seems just wrong

also u mean 7+ as claymores gets that on a 7970

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