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October 11, 2014, 01:04:08 PM
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So has the snapshot been rescheduled or not?  I think more notice would be very helpful since a lot of people still seem to have coins stuck in the exchange.
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October 11, 2014, 04:45:31 PM
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I have recieved contact from Mintpal.
They said their daemon is now up and running  Smiley

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October 11, 2014, 04:47:57 PM
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I ask to postpone snapshotna another term. Because it is a problem with accounts on Mintpal V2
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October 11, 2014, 04:49:54 PM
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I ask to postpone snapshotna another term. Because it is a problem with accounts on Mintpal V2

They just write for 10 days. The problem is not only CINNI on Mintpal, but also access to the accounts. And that does not fix it within 3 days. Please cinnidev transfer snapshot.
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October 11, 2014, 08:31:13 PM
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I ask to postpone snapshotna another term. Because it is a problem with accounts on Mintpal V2

They just write for 10 days. The problem is not only CINNI on Mintpal, but also access to the accounts. And that does not fix it within 3 days. Please cinnidev transfer snapshot.

This may not be a bad idea CinniDev---to push back the snapshot until a majority at least are prepared for it.  Also, to the community...please contact BTER, BTC38 and Poloniex as they are the most likely to honor the snapshot with shares in future DACs (and BTER/BTC38 will be far more likely to list Cinni in their exchange). 

Another great idea would be to get the bitshares community (and devs) on board and willing to help you bring value to all stakeholders through advice and expertise of those who actually engineered DPOS.  By honoring those who created it (wouldn't you honor Satoshi if you could?), you accomplish this.  

To those who dislike the idea of honoring PTS/AGS holders, it might not be a bad idea to diversify into bitshares PTS to get a cut (if/when CinniDev decides to do this).  In so doing, you ally yourselves with us and we ally ourselves with you...and this is a huge benefit.

PTS and AGS were used to fund the development of the technology that is going to increase the value of Cinni over time...and DPOS based DACs will likely eventually be born on this chain (if everyone plays their cards right).  The benefits of honoring a simple 20% of the snapshot to PTS/AGS holders who fund the constant improvements, enterprise level scalability, tx speeds are numerous.  

It also increases the chance that Cinnicoin holders will be "Sharedropped" a % of shares in DACs that come out for DPOS-Based chains, for instance (wouldnt it be nice to have a chance to actually get shares in DACs made by bitshares' Devs for official bitshares chains (like bitshares Play (gaming DAC) or others?...just for holding Cinni.). If there is no PTS/AGS contribution, however, it is pretty much ensured Devs building DACs that honor PTS/AGS holders will never think to honor Cinni Holders.  

This is a GREAT place to extend one's gratitude in the knowledge that it will likely pay everyone back substantially more than they gave in the future.  

P.S.  I have purchased Cinni, so I will get a cut regardless the decision...but I hope
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October 11, 2014, 11:07:17 PM
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Can someone explain how i can use bootstrap.dat file with wallet to make sync
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October 11, 2014, 11:51:01 PM
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I have recieved contact from Mintpal.
They said their daemon is now up and running  Smiley

I am still unable to perform withdrawals.. CINNI just isn't listed on the balances tab. I hope they can get their asses in gear now.
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October 12, 2014, 12:05:37 AM
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Can someone explain how i can use bootstrap.dat file with wallet to make sync

You can use bootstrap from http://www.cinniblock.com/ to sync faster thanks to Cinblo.

1. Download bootstrap.dat

2. Close wallet > copy bootstrap.dat to your AppData/Roaming/CinniCoin folder

3. Open wallet and it will load the bootstrap.dat (takes even a few days).

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To prevent staking problems in the future, type repairwallet in Help > Debug window > Console after you stake or before you send coins.
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October 12, 2014, 02:55:50 AM
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Join the discussion!

The full truth behind ShadowCash/Coin trolls and their attacks on other coins.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818939.0
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October 12, 2014, 03:28:48 AM
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I have recieved contact from Mintpal.
They said their daemon is now up and running  Smiley

I am still unable to perform withdrawals.. CINNI just isn't listed on the balances tab. I hope they can get their asses in gear now.
maybe everything is gone ,careful
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October 12, 2014, 03:46:18 AM
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Join the discussion!

The full truth behind ShadowCash/Coin trolls and their attacks on other coins.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818939.0

Its been said many times Ryno, Battbott and their coins XC, SDC among others are scams,  they lied about fixing the wallet, they lied and mislead community about development pathway.  The devteam is half sockpuppets that pump and dumped on annoucements to secure more btc before abandoning CINNI.   it good to see the truth started to come out about those guys and their tricks.  Now if only CINNI could make a clean break from its association with that group and get the wallet cleaned up and fixed we would have a coin worth holding again.  

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October 12, 2014, 03:55:41 AM
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I ask to postpone snapshotna another term. Because it is a problem with accounts on Mintpal V2

They just write for 10 days. The problem is not only CINNI on Mintpal, but also access to the accounts. And that does not fix it within 3 days. Please cinnidev transfer snapshot.

This may not be a bad idea CinniDev---to push back the snapshot until a majority at least are prepared for it.  Also, to the community...please contact BTER, BTC38 and Poloniex as they are the most likely to honor the snapshot with shares in future DACs (and BTER/BTC38 will be far more likely to list Cinni in their exchange). 

Another great idea would be to get the bitshares community (and devs) on board and willing to help you bring value to all stakeholders through advice and expertise of those who actually engineered DPOS.  By honoring those who created it (wouldn't you honor Satoshi if you could?), you accomplish this.  

To those who dislike the idea of honoring PTS/AGS holders, it might not be a bad idea to diversify into bitshares PTS to get a cut (if/when CinniDev decides to do this).  In so doing, you ally yourselves with us and we ally ourselves with you...and this is a huge benefit.

PTS and AGS were used to fund the development of the technology that is going to increase the value of Cinni over time...and DPOS based DACs will likely eventually be born on this chain (if everyone plays their cards right).  The benefits of honoring a simple 20% of the snapshot to PTS/AGS holders who fund the constant improvements, enterprise level scalability, tx speeds are numerous.  

It also increases the chance that Cinnicoin holders will be "Sharedropped" a % of shares in DACs that come out for DPOS-Based chains, for instance (wouldnt it be nice to have a chance to actually get shares in DACs made by bitshares' Devs for official bitshares chains (like bitshares Play (gaming DAC) or others?...just for holding Cinni.). If there is no PTS/AGS contribution, however, it is pretty much ensured Devs building DACs that honor PTS/AGS holders will never think to honor Cinni Holders.  

This is a GREAT place to extend one's gratitude in the knowledge that it will likely pay everyone back substantially more than they gave in the future.  

P.S.  I have purchased Cinni, so I will get a cut regardless the decision...but I hope

You make very good points
Honoring the Bitshares social consesus  of 10% to Bitshares PTS and 10% to Bitshares AGS sounds like a good idea.
Does anyone dislike this idea?

Also I suppose I can push back the snapshot date until people are prepared for it.

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October 12, 2014, 04:08:14 AM
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I ask to postpone snapshotna another term. Because it is a problem with accounts on Mintpal V2

They just write for 10 days. The problem is not only CINNI on Mintpal, but also access to the accounts. And that does not fix it within 3 days. Please cinnidev transfer snapshot.

This may not be a bad idea CinniDev---to push back the snapshot until a majority at least are prepared for it.  Also, to the community...please contact BTER, BTC38 and Poloniex as they are the most likely to honor the snapshot with shares in future DACs (and BTER/BTC38 will be far more likely to list Cinni in their exchange).  

Another great idea would be to get the bitshares community (and devs) on board and willing to help you bring value to all stakeholders through advice and expertise of those who actually engineered DPOS.  By honoring those who created it (wouldn't you honor Satoshi if you could?), you accomplish this.  

To those who dislike the idea of honoring PTS/AGS holders, it might not be a bad idea to diversify into bitshares PTS to get a cut (if/when CinniDev decides to do this).  In so doing, you ally yourselves with us and we ally ourselves with you...and this is a huge benefit.

PTS and AGS were used to fund the development of the technology that is going to increase the value of Cinni over time...and DPOS based DACs will likely eventually be born on this chain (if everyone plays their cards right).  The benefits of honoring a simple 20% of the snapshot to PTS/AGS holders who fund the constant improvements, enterprise level scalability, tx speeds are numerous.  

It also increases the chance that Cinnicoin holders will be "Sharedropped" a % of shares in DACs that come out for DPOS-Based chains, for instance (wouldnt it be nice to have a chance to actually get shares in DACs made by bitshares' Devs for official bitshares chains (like bitshares Play (gaming DAC) or others?...just for holding Cinni.). If there is no PTS/AGS contribution, however, it is pretty much ensured Devs building DACs that honor PTS/AGS holders will never think to honor Cinni Holders.  

This is a GREAT place to extend one's gratitude in the knowledge that it will likely pay everyone back substantially more than they gave in the future.  

P.S.  I have purchased Cinni, so I will get a cut regardless the decision...but I hope

You make very good points
Honoring the Bitshares social consesus  of 10% to Bitshares PTS and 10% to Bitshares AGS sounds like a good idea.
Does anyone dislike this idea?

Also I suppose I can push back the snapshot date until people are prepared for it.

BTER is unlikely to add CINNI, they were approached earlier and didn't like it, its unlikely they will change that now because of timeshares especially since they have no Cinni to benefit from the timesahres snapshot.
BTC38 will take one look at the history here and issues other exchanges have had and completely avoid it.  No exchange is going to add or continue to support Cinni long term in its current state.  Half the exchanges have delisted Cinni, the dev does not even update the first post.

The priority should be to work on fixing the wallet, i spoke to other devs and the current problem is apparently a relatively fix but the longer its ignored the more of a problem its will become until the point where exchanges will be forced to drop Cinni simple because its cause more problems (forking, resyncing, incorrect balances, stuck transactions etc) then is worth an exchange spending time on, especially when as far as they can see the dev has abandoned Cinni, no updates, no communications and no fix for the issues that have been mentioned many times.   Snapshot can happen anytime buts it worthless if people were not able to withdraw or move their coins safely before it happened because of these current bugs with Cinni that should have been fixed long ago. 


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October 12, 2014, 04:20:38 AM
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BTER is unlikely to add CINNI, they were approached earlier and didn't like it, its unlikely they will change that now because of timeshares especially since they have no Cinni to benefit from the timesahres snapshot.
BTC38 will take one look at the history here and issues other exchanges have had and completely avoid it.  No exchange is going to add or continue to support Cinni long term in its current state.  Half the exchanges have delisted Cinni, the dev does not even update the first post.

The priority should be to work on fixing the wallet, i spoke to other devs and the current problem is apparently a relatively fix but the longer its ignored the more of a problem its will become until the point where exchanges will be forced to drop Cinni simple because its cause more problems (forking, resyncing, incorrect balances, stuck transactions etc) then is worth an exchange spending time on, especially when as far as they can see the dev has abandoned Cinni, no updates, no communications and no fix for the issues that have been mentioned many times.   Snapshot can happen anytime buts it worthless if people were not able to withdraw or move their coins safely before it happened because of these current bugs with Cinni that should have been fixed long ago. 


The snapshot is for new Cinni with DPOS thats made using the Bitshares toolkit.
It won't contain the transaction and staking problems that you are talking about.

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October 12, 2014, 04:55:13 AM
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I ask to postpone snapshotna another term. Because it is a problem with accounts on Mintpal V2

They just write for 10 days. The problem is not only CINNI on Mintpal, but also access to the accounts. And that does not fix it within 3 days. Please cinnidev transfer snapshot.

This may not be a bad idea CinniDev---to push back the snapshot until a majority at least are prepared for it.  Also, to the community...please contact BTER, BTC38 and Poloniex as they are the most likely to honor the snapshot with shares in future DACs (and BTER/BTC38 will be far more likely to list Cinni in their exchange). 

Another great idea would be to get the bitshares community (and devs) on board and willing to help you bring value to all stakeholders through advice and expertise of those who actually engineered DPOS.  By honoring those who created it (wouldn't you honor Satoshi if you could?), you accomplish this.  

To those who dislike the idea of honoring PTS/AGS holders, it might not be a bad idea to diversify into bitshares PTS to get a cut (if/when CinniDev decides to do this).  In so doing, you ally yourselves with us and we ally ourselves with you...and this is a huge benefit.

PTS and AGS were used to fund the development of the technology that is going to increase the value of Cinni over time...and DPOS based DACs will likely eventually be born on this chain (if everyone plays their cards right).  The benefits of honoring a simple 20% of the snapshot to PTS/AGS holders who fund the constant improvements, enterprise level scalability, tx speeds are numerous.  

It also increases the chance that Cinnicoin holders will be "Sharedropped" a % of shares in DACs that come out for DPOS-Based chains, for instance (wouldnt it be nice to have a chance to actually get shares in DACs made by bitshares' Devs for official bitshares chains (like bitshares Play (gaming DAC) or others?...just for holding Cinni.). If there is no PTS/AGS contribution, however, it is pretty much ensured Devs building DACs that honor PTS/AGS holders will never think to honor Cinni Holders.  

This is a GREAT place to extend one's gratitude in the knowledge that it will likely pay everyone back substantially more than they gave in the future.  

P.S.  I have purchased Cinni, so I will get a cut regardless the decision...but I hope

You make very good points
Honoring the Bitshares social consesus  of 10% to Bitshares PTS and 10% to Bitshares AGS sounds like a good idea.
Does anyone dislike this idea?

Also I suppose I can push back the snapshot date until people are prepared for it.

If this is meant to fix the problems with Cinni, where are the extra coins coming from to pay bitshares PTS & AGS?  What will be the total number of Cinni created from this? 20% more Cinni then current?

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October 12, 2014, 05:25:04 AM
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I ask to postpone snapshotna another term. Because it is a problem with accounts on Mintpal V2

They just write for 10 days. The problem is not only CINNI on Mintpal, but also access to the accounts. And that does not fix it within 3 days. Please cinnidev transfer snapshot.

This may not be a bad idea CinniDev---to push back the snapshot until a majority at least are prepared for it.  Also, to the community...please contact BTER, BTC38 and Poloniex as they are the most likely to honor the snapshot with shares in future DACs (and BTER/BTC38 will be far more likely to list Cinni in their exchange). 

Another great idea would be to get the bitshares community (and devs) on board and willing to help you bring value to all stakeholders through advice and expertise of those who actually engineered DPOS.  By honoring those who created it (wouldn't you honor Satoshi if you could?), you accomplish this. 

To those who dislike the idea of honoring PTS/AGS holders, it might not be a bad idea to diversify into bitshares PTS to get a cut (if/when CinniDev decides to do this).  In so doing, you ally yourselves with us and we ally ourselves with you...and this is a huge benefit.

PTS and AGS were used to fund the development of the technology that is going to increase the value of Cinni over time...and DPOS based DACs will likely eventually be born on this chain (if everyone plays their cards right).  The benefits of honoring a simple 20% of the snapshot to PTS/AGS holders who fund the constant improvements, enterprise level scalability, tx speeds are numerous. 

It also increases the chance that Cinnicoin holders will be "Sharedropped" a % of shares in DACs that come out for DPOS-Based chains, for instance (wouldnt it be nice to have a chance to actually get shares in DACs made by bitshares' Devs for official bitshares chains (like bitshares Play (gaming DAC) or others?...just for holding Cinni.). If there is no PTS/AGS contribution, however, it is pretty much ensured Devs building DACs that honor PTS/AGS holders will never think to honor Cinni Holders. 

This is a GREAT place to extend one's gratitude in the knowledge that it will likely pay everyone back substantially more than they gave in the future. 

P.S.  I have purchased Cinni, so I will get a cut regardless the decision...but I hope

You make very good points
Honoring the Bitshares social consesus  of 10% to Bitshares PTS and 10% to Bitshares AGS sounds like a good idea.
Does anyone dislike this idea?

Also I suppose I can push back the snapshot date until people are prepared for it.

Yes very good points just after he posted I send pm to say THANK YOU for that.
I think exactly the same but my rubbish English is my problem.
Apart from that I want to say that any one who don't see benefits from social consensus must be very short-sighted.
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I've been shouting in this thread many times "don't trust exchanges, take control over your Cinni".
They did not listen so that is the lesson.
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October 12, 2014, 09:20:35 AM
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the restoring of accounts Mintpal is certainly uplifting. Thank you. However, like most...balance CINNI remains zero. I have faith in you Mooloh:) Perhaps today will return my 70000 featuring Smiley How to return a snapshot October 14 does not need to be moved Smiley!I write when my balance will be featuring in my Mintpal
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October 12, 2014, 03:25:39 PM
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I ask to postpone snapshotna another term. Because it is a problem with accounts on Mintpal V2

They just write for 10 days. The problem is not only CINNI on Mintpal, but also access to the accounts. And that does not fix it within 3 days. Please cinnidev transfer snapshot.

This may not be a bad idea CinniDev---to push back the snapshot until a majority at least are prepared for it.  Also, to the community...please contact BTER, BTC38 and Poloniex as they are the most likely to honor the snapshot with shares in future DACs (and BTER/BTC38 will be far more likely to list Cinni in their exchange). 

Another great idea would be to get the bitshares community (and devs) on board and willing to help you bring value to all stakeholders through advice and expertise of those who actually engineered DPOS.  By honoring those who created it (wouldn't you honor Satoshi if you could?), you accomplish this.  

To those who dislike the idea of honoring PTS/AGS holders, it might not be a bad idea to diversify into bitshares PTS to get a cut (if/when CinniDev decides to do this).  In so doing, you ally yourselves with us and we ally ourselves with you...and this is a huge benefit.

PTS and AGS were used to fund the development of the technology that is going to increase the value of Cinni over time...and DPOS based DACs will likely eventually be born on this chain (if everyone plays their cards right).  The benefits of honoring a simple 20% of the snapshot to PTS/AGS holders who fund the constant improvements, enterprise level scalability, tx speeds are numerous.  

It also increases the chance that Cinnicoin holders will be "Sharedropped" a % of shares in DACs that come out for DPOS-Based chains, for instance (wouldnt it be nice to have a chance to actually get shares in DACs made by bitshares' Devs for official bitshares chains (like bitshares Play (gaming DAC) or others?...just for holding Cinni.). If there is no PTS/AGS contribution, however, it is pretty much ensured Devs building DACs that honor PTS/AGS holders will never think to honor Cinni Holders.  

This is a GREAT place to extend one's gratitude in the knowledge that it will likely pay everyone back substantially more than they gave in the future.  

P.S.  I have purchased Cinni, so I will get a cut regardless the decision...but I hope

You make very good points
Honoring the Bitshares social consesus  of 10% to Bitshares PTS and 10% to Bitshares AGS sounds like a good idea.
Does anyone dislike this idea?

Also I suppose I can push back the snapshot date until people are prepared for it.

I agree with Fuznutts as he laid out the argument in better detail than I did previously RE: honoring Bitshares PTS/AGS 10%/10% Snapshot.

I would add these suggestions also before any final decisions are made...

1) ONLY move the Snapshot date back if you're (Cinnidev) not ready for prime time!! I would make sure Timeshares is 98%+ complete with back end development and everything is pretty much bug free. I know doing a Snapshot has nothing to do with client development being complete, but once you do the snapshot people will start the clock of when they'll expect a working product and could result in FUD for no reason.
Give it some breathing room.
Doing a snapshot and then releasing the Timeshare client within with a couple of weeks of each other, will maximize the overall professionalism to your project and more people will come aboard.
Think of it this way... you building a Cruise Ship....Could you see yourself or see other people to pay money and waste time to jump aboard a ship if they see it's not fully painted, missing rivets and welds, port windows not installed, the buffet not completed, no BAR is installed LOL. I hope I'm getting the point across.

2) I would suggest getting onto the Bitshares forum and start up a TimeShares thread laying out your ideas, vision and details within that community. Like Fuznutts mentioned, getting suggestions and help from the community members and Bitshare Devs will be a HUGE benefit to the Timeshares project.
The atmosphere is MUCH MORE professional at https://bitsharestalk.org than this bitcointalk.org forum.
You'll get some great advice along with well thought out arguments and it'll help shape the project. Not to mention you'll have influential eyes viewing it everyday.
If you do this, be prepared to stay VERY active and involved within that community... again, you won't be talking to idiots over there!!! FUD is pretty much nonexistent.

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October 12, 2014, 07:53:11 PM
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Can someone explain how i can use bootstrap.dat file with wallet to make sync

Hello,
Have you read the help page ?
http://www.cinniblock.com/help.htm

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October 12, 2014, 07:56:39 PM
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Cinni blockchain updated bootstrap.dat file at
Block 897944 Oct 12, 2014 19:26:08 UTC
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8a9adzzwezhzcsa/bootstrap.dat
or simply bootstrap.cinniblock.com
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