[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[yoshiwatusi]

devs are interestingly quiet.. almost like they want the price down.. in order for it to go up? something up in their sleeves

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[CodeHunter]

The devs should not concern themselves with price manipulation.

[chunkyjunkie]

devs are interestingly quiet.. almost like they want the price down.. in order for it to go up? something up in their sleeves

If the devs stay quiet until something is actually released it will help the longterm price of vrc instead of people in it just for a quick flip.

Instead of all this frontloading of shares and dumping on any good news vrc price would just steadily go up and not look like dev manipulation if a policy of not pre announcing was taken.

Preannouncing only attracts traders that buy for one reason only, dumping on the actual event.


Edit- In fact if no news is preannounced and vrc drops much lower I might actually buy back in and buy more over time.  I, personally, was in vrc because it looked different then other coins that were out that always followed the same patterns and then disappeared.  If they stopped with the aiding of the pump and dumps I would be back in myself, but need to wait and see.

[abercrombie]

The devs should not concern themselves with price manipulation.

pnosker did move 200k VRC to Cryptsy as a program buy wall to hold the price in the 30's during the Mintpal fiasco.

isn't that some form of manipulation?

are you saying the Devs should no longer do this?  because it appears he may have stopped.

[yoshiwatusi]

i think something is up.. in a positive sense.. they are just not saying anything..

[7vpo]

[CodeHunter]

The devs should not concern themselves with price manipulation.

are you saying the Devs should no longer do this?  because it appears he may have stopped.

They should not concern themselves to the public about it. The prices will always be volatile, why should the devs make a statement each time something happens with the price? They should not concern themselves with us here on this forum when it comes to this current price manipulation.

This is the alt world, volatility comes with the territory.

[CryptoLTD]

Does any one know if pool payouts are delayed? My last payment from the pool was 7/21.

[ofp]

If you look at the BitcoinWisdom front page, you'll notice that VRC is one of the few coins that is in the positive side for the last 30 days (+35,20%, second biggest rise out of only 6 coins rising in a 30 days period).

- So, what is the big deal ? Why are people complaining so much right now?
- You see, VRC is not rising 200% in the past 30 days.

There might be a problem with your expectations folks.

[Redrover]

Does any one know if pool payouts are delayed? My last payment from the pool was 7/21.

Same here, last payout was 7/21, a few others in IRC have said the same thing and devs are looking into it I hope.

[abercrombie]

The devs should not concern themselves with price manipulation.

are you saying the Devs should no longer do this?  because it appears he may have stopped.

They should not concern themselves to the public about it. The prices will always be volatile, why should the devs make a statement each time something happens with the price? They should not concern themselves with us here on this forum when it comes to this current price manipulation.

This is the alt world, volatility comes with the territory.

Well, I agree Devs should not comment on price.  This is something big companies have learned to say on Wallstreet.  

However, since the Dev did use a buy wall to keep the price afloat in the 30's during the Mintpal fiasco (a form of price manipulation), it's just natural that the price would drift where it naturally would be without such support.

[Amalgamus]

The devs should not concern themselves with price manipulation.

pnosker did move 200k VRC to Cryptsy as a program buy wall to hold the price in the 30's during the Mintpal fiasco.

isn't that some form of manipulation?

are you saying the Devs should no longer do this?  because it appears he may have stopped.

That cannot be true. How somebody can put a buy wall with VRC as a buy wall could only be done with BTC?

[abercrombie]

The devs should not concern themselves with price manipulation.

pnosker did move 200k VRC to Cryptsy as a program buy wall to hold the price in the 30's during the Mintpal fiasco.

isn't that some form of manipulation?

are you saying the Devs should no longer do this?  because it appears he may have stopped.

That cannot be true. How somebody can put a buy wall with VRC as a buy wall could only be done with BTC?

you'll need to ask pnosker on the details, but i do remember seeing him say it in IRC and/or here in this thread, that the 200k wall was to save VRC (during the Mintpal theft).

[Amalgamus]

Is anyone around the Bitcoin Center in NYC, that has some time to promote VeriCoin before the party?


Can we organize a giveaway of VeriCoin around the city leading up to the event?  

Perhaps use social media to tell people where to go, or hints about where the free VeriCoin are? We could place some paper wallets with like 100 VRC in them each + instructions on how to download a wallet, ect.

I would contribute to the giveaway if anyone would be willing to do this. The rest of the community can help with small donations, and by using twitter, ect to promote the giveaway. Maybe we get our story picked up, maybe not. Regardless we can educate people about VeriCoin in the Financial hub of the world.


This is a opportunity that we need to use to create brand awareness. A giveaway leading up to a VeriCoin party at Bitcoin Center seems like a logical way for a community that cares to show we are 1 step ahead of the game. That we care just a little more than the next coin, that we will work just a little bit harder than the rest.

I thought you were "done" with VRC since the price fell  

Look again, I said I was done with this forum, and I am. Sorry I had a great idea that I thought was worth sharing. The reason I am done, and for GOOD now, is responses like what you are doing right now. People have a way of sidestepping progression on this forum and attacking others. It's a great idea I said I would help fund, and the only response is that of a troll. After this response you just affirmed why I should not have even posted something positive like that. Anyone with good ideas is shot down for some reason instead of trying to build it up. A community will never grow with a foundation of assholes like has been posting for the past few days - weeks.

I will hold VeriCoin no matter what until a team comes that can do "mainstream" better. As of right now this is the only game in town so I support it. Though I will not speak again, you are right. I will preserve sanity over messing with the kiddies who want to turn this into a forum full of people who wish to bring others down.



People like you Leckey, make me want to sell out everything I own and move on. You know I am looking for support making a VRC faucet, You HAVE a VRC faucet. I LINK MY WEBSITE TO YOUR FAUCET Yet you will not help me make another one for the community because it would be competition for you. Not only will you not help me, you chose to attack me.

So its better I just not look at this forum, and all the wonderful people who post here.

I think it's a great idea and am willing to give 400 vericoins if it helps.
Don't be too upset with the preceding post and take it as only a question and not a troll

[Reavon]

Just to make it clear for those who don't understand the charts.  I got all in at an accumulation around 33k, if I have had not bought back than but go all in now.  I would eat every seller der on every  exchange and price would be back at 35 and I am not a whale not even a dolphin.

So I can tell you from experience  that some make use of the tiny sell orders  to lead weak minded holders to sell.  I know that tactic but it's a risky one I don't like it.

It needs one dolphin to lead vrc panic buy on all exchanges so this is now perfect circumstances for pump and dump groups.  Everyone selling now is just a victim of a beartrap

[Amalgamus]

The devs should not concern themselves with price manipulation.

pnosker did move 200k VRC to Cryptsy as a program buy wall to hold the price in the 30's during the Mintpal fiasco.

isn't that some form of manipulation?

are you saying the Devs should no longer do this?  because it appears he may have stopped.

That cannot be true. How somebody can put a buy wall with VRC as a buy wall could only be done with BTC?

you'll need to ask pnosker on the details, but i do remember seeing him say it in IRC and/or here in this thread, that the 200k wall was to save VRC (during the Mintpal theft).

I have seen that before (people talking about it and saying that they saw it on IRC). Now, not being familiar with IRC, I went on it a couple of times and put an avatar without having to fill in a form so I presume it's easy to put anybody's username and make declarations for him.

[abercrombie]

The devs should not concern themselves with price manipulation.

pnosker did move 200k VRC to Cryptsy as a program buy wall to hold the price in the 30's during the Mintpal fiasco.

isn't that some form of manipulation?

are you saying the Devs should no longer do this?  because it appears he may have stopped.

That cannot be true. How somebody can put a buy wall with VRC as a buy wall could only be done with BTC?

you'll need to ask pnosker on the details, but i do remember seeing him say it in IRC and/or here in this thread, that the 200k wall was to save VRC (during the Mintpal theft).

I have seen that before (people talking about it and saying that they saw it on IRC). Now, not being familiar with IRC, I went on it a couple of times and put an avatar without having to fill in a form so I presume it's easy to put anybody's username and make declarations for him.

Dev is a Channel Operator with an @ in front of his handle (@pnosker).  If one can fake being a channel Op, you can hijack the whole channel and ban all enemies.  Therefore, not so easy to validate being another handle just based on username.

Here's a link to the chat log, someone posted it already:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602041.msg7847234#msg7847234

[Isokoira]

the blank screen for VRC/Fiat is a  known issue affecting windows users and the Devs are currently working on a fix for it, as for the pool I'm not sure except maybe a drop in hashrate has caused a slow down in payouts, can't say for sure

thx for your reply. The blank Screen is not that bad, it was just an Information for the devs. But some post above a user wrote that he gets more out of the ming pool than usual. If i get less then there is maybe a problem.

What is your hashrate ? Sometimes it dont come in for a few hours but I can see its working because its a bigger payout

I tried both using the same directory as 1.3.3 and I tried a different directory.

I installed 1.3.4 and ran into the error. I also tried reinstalling 1.3.3 and I now get it with that version too where I never did before.

I was getting an error when I tried to install the new version too.  I actually had to uninstall from Add/Remove first, moved my wallet.dat to my desktop, removed the whole Vericoin folder in under user name\AppData\Roaming\Vericoin, restarted my PC and then reinstalled using the new Setup.  After it was done it complained about not having the wallet.dat but gave the option to import which i did by browsing to my desktop and selecting it.  After that it went on to sync normally.  You may want to try and disable any Antivirus you have also.  I believe that was one step I took also.

[Isokoira]

Does any one know if pool payouts are delayed? My last payment from the pool was 7/21.

Same here, last payout was 7/21, a few others in IRC have said the same thing and devs are looking into it I hope.

Last payout for me was just yesterday 7/22.  Pool looks like it is down for maintenance now


EDIT:  Back online

[effectsToCause]

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