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November 27, 2013, 04:57:13 PM
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Gold Parity day is near, guess the date while you still can!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=336761.0

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November 27, 2013, 05:09:18 PM
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Cheesy

too bad for rule §2... You can not guess "today" or "tomorrow"  Cheesy
But i must admit, it is very possible!

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November 27, 2013, 06:12:43 PM
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pure and utter misery:

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November 27, 2013, 08:15:49 PM
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Gold collapsing.  Bitcoin UP.
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November 27, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
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brutal

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
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November 27, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
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brutal

me or the reality of the situation?
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November 27, 2013, 08:30:22 PM
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both, lol, just looking at the silver chart here, if you had asked me a year ago if we would have ever seen 19 again I would have laughed in your face...now I'm holding out for 17

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
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November 27, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
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both, lol, just looking at the silver chart here, if you had asked me a year ago if we would have ever seen 19 again I would have laughed in your face...now I'm holding out for 17

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November 27, 2013, 08:33:55 PM
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both, lol, just looking at the silver chart here, if you had asked me a year ago if we would have ever seen 19 again I would have laughed in your face...now I'm holding out for 17

It's tempting to make a connection between bitcoin boom and metal bust, but the market sizes are too different. The $ flowing into XBT is negligible compared to the $ exiting the metals, right? I think it's plain old "manipulation" of gold & silver?

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November 27, 2013, 08:39:25 PM
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both, lol, just looking at the silver chart here, if you had asked me a year ago if we would have ever seen 19 again I would have laughed in your face...now I'm holding out for 17

It's tempting to make a connection between bitcoin boom and metal bust, but the market sizes are too different. The $ flowing into XBT is negligible compared to the $ exiting the metals, right? I think it's plain old "manipulation" of gold & silver?


I dont know - somehow 6 billion moving into an asset over the course of a few months makes it hard for me to call that asset negligible in comparison to anything

Bro, do you even blockchain?
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November 27, 2013, 08:42:33 PM
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both, lol, just looking at the silver chart here, if you had asked me a year ago if we would have ever seen 19 again I would have laughed in your face...now I'm holding out for 17

It's tempting to make a connection between bitcoin boom and metal bust, but the market sizes are too different. The $ flowing into XBT is negligible compared to the $ exiting the metals, right? I think it's plain old "manipulation" of gold & silver?


maybe not too much now but there will be a time where capital flight to crypto is a lot more substantial

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November 27, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
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both, lol, just looking at the silver chart here, if you had asked me a year ago if we would have ever seen 19 again I would have laughed in your face...now I'm holding out for 17

It's tempting to make a connection between bitcoin boom and metal bust, but the market sizes are too different. The $ flowing into XBT is negligible compared to the $ exiting the metals, right? I think it's plain old "manipulation" of gold & silver?


I used to take this contention (PM's massively dwarf crypto-currencies in terms of value flow) on faith, but lately I'm of the mind that it should be analyzed a little more carefully.  Of course I've been to lazy to run the actual numbers...if I can even avoid the garbage-in/gabage-out problem anyway.  And even if it is not currently the case that CC's are having a significant effect, it looks more and more like it could be going forward.

This would actually be a very welcome development for me since I'm planning a re-balance.  That is to say, I might benefit doubly if/when I make an adjustment from CC's to PM's.


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November 27, 2013, 08:52:14 PM
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both, lol, just looking at the silver chart here, if you had asked me a year ago if we would have ever seen 19 again I would have laughed in your face...now I'm holding out for 17

It's tempting to make a connection between bitcoin boom and metal bust, but the market sizes are too different. The $ flowing into XBT is negligible compared to the $ exiting the metals, right? I think it's plain old "manipulation" of gold & silver?


I used to take this contention (PM's massively dwarf crypto-currencies in terms of value flow) on faith, but lately I'm of the mind that it should be analyzed a little more carefully.  Of course I've been to lazy to run the actual numbers...if I can even avoid the garbage-in/gabage-out problem anyway.  And even if it is not currently the case that CC's are having a significant effect, it looks more and more like it could be going forward.

This would actually be a very welcome development for me since I'm planning a re-balance.  That is to say, I might benefit doubly if/when I make an adjustment from CC's to PM's.

I think it might be more psychological than purely money moving from one asset to the other.
Gold's monetary value was (by the sound money people) perceived as "a sure thing".  A number of them are now starting to doubt.  That may decrease their willingness to put extra fiat into it.
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November 27, 2013, 09:36:53 PM
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Not so much doubting gold as a "sure thing" but I think it's the realization that the PM market was and is still heavily manipulated by fiat.  Bitcoin has a much faster correction mechanism in place currently.  It'll be interesting to see how that evolves in the future.
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November 27, 2013, 09:43:50 PM
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I am of the opinion that the barbarous relics have a very important role to play going forward.  Once Bitcoin destroys the fiat ponzi we can have true price discovery for PMs.

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
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November 27, 2013, 09:58:53 PM
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hey goat, you made it

the wall thread was speculating that you might have suffered a fatal orgasm with this morning's LTC spike

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November 27, 2013, 10:03:47 PM
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give me a shout if you come through Seattle

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November 27, 2013, 10:26:36 PM
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give me a shout if you come through Seattle

I thought you were a Portland guy and thus at least a fellow Oregonian.  I disappointed Sad

I'm looking forward to the day when we Oregonians can opt for 'The Bitcoin State' license plates.


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November 28, 2013, 12:45:56 AM
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both, lol, just looking at the silver chart here, if you had asked me a year ago if we would have ever seen 19 again I would have laughed in your face...now I'm holding out for 17

It's tempting to make a connection between bitcoin boom and metal bust, but the market sizes are too different. The $ flowing into XBT is negligible compared to the $ exiting the metals, right? I think it's plain old "manipulation" of gold & silver?


Hardly anymore, in 2008 the LBMA OTC daily volume for silver is only something like USD 2-3 billion, http://www.lbma.org.uk/pages/index.cfm?page_id=50 , but keep in mind this is because silver is in a bear market, when Bitcoin was in a bear market its volume also went much higher, judging by this we could estimate that XBT has a little more than half the size of global silver market, which could not be called 'negligible' anymore.

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November 28, 2013, 12:50:28 AM
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give me a shout if you come through Seattle

I thought you were a Portland guy and thus at least a fellow Oregonian.  I disappointed Sad

I'm looking forward to the day when we Oregonians can opt for 'The Bitcoin State' license plates.



sounds good! right now I'm in Eugene, OR: would love to see all those old kind hippies using Bitcoin Smiley

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