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November 20, 2013, 04:53:21 PM
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Gold collapsing.  Bitcoin UP.

Nice to have a constant in an ever-changing world!

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November 20, 2013, 04:58:29 PM
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Gold collapsing.  Bitcoin UP.

know any place i can get a 100 kilo gold bar for btc?  i want a really lulz paper weight.

That would cost you 7.5k BTC at spot. So what? 8.5k BTC for the bar?(or over $5M)

I don't even know 100% sure whether you're serious Tongue

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November 20, 2013, 05:09:58 PM
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Gold collapsing.  Bitcoin UP.

Nice to have a constant in an ever-changing world!

In daily chart this does not even hold..  Roll Eyes

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November 20, 2013, 05:11:40 PM
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Gold collapsing.  Bitcoin UP.

Nice to have a constant in an ever-changing world!

In daily chart this does not even hold..  Roll Eyes

Gold collapsing, Bitcoin exploding ?

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November 20, 2013, 05:18:05 PM
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Gold collapsing.  Bitcoin UP.

know any place i can get a 100 kilo gold bar for btc?  i want a really lulz paper weight.

That would cost you 7.5k BTC at spot. So what? 8.5k BTC for the bar?(or over $5M)

I don't even know 100% sure whether you're serious Tongue

no i'm not. that is waaaay too heavy for a paper weight!


Yeah, I was gonna say... 202lb paper-weight. Sheesh. It'd have nice conductivity for a paper-weight, though!

Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
But Bitcointalk & /r/bitcoin are heavily censored. bitco.in/forum, forum.bitcoin.com, and /r/btc are open.
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November 20, 2013, 05:56:53 PM
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Gold collapsing.  Bitcoin UP.

Nice to have a constant in an ever-changing world!

In daily chart this does not even hold..  Roll Eyes

Gold collapsing, Bitcoin exploding ?

I like Gold down, Bitcoin exploding. Gold has not collapsed, it corrected, BTC on the other hand is 1/3 of the way to the moon.

Wow, the moon must have gotten quite a bit closer then Smiley

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November 20, 2013, 05:57:11 PM
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Buy a fake kilo bar and it will remind you of one of the benefits of bitcoin over gold.
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November 20, 2013, 06:01:06 PM
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Buy a fake kilo bar and it will remind you of one of the benefits of bitcoin over gold.
Reality check.  How many tungsten core bars were found?
and...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0

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November 20, 2013, 06:04:27 PM
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Buy a fake kilo bar and it will remind you of one of the benefits of bitcoin over gold.
Reality check.  How many tungsten core bars were found?
and...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0


Theft and counterfeiting are completely different.

Are you suggesting its easier to steal BTC than gold?
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November 20, 2013, 06:29:50 PM
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Buy a fake kilo bar and it will remind you of one of the benefits of bitcoin over gold.
Reality check.  How many tungsten core bars were found?
and...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0


Theft and counterfeiting are completely different.

Are you suggesting its easier to steal BTC than gold?

The difference between theft and counterfeiting is a matter for the lawyers.
Both are easy/hard to steal depending on security.
A lot of both is stolen, defrauded, scammed, whatever you like to call it.
Personally? I have had more BTC stolen than gold stolen (I had a bitcoin plus interest with coinlenders and some dust in inputs.io, no one has stolen any of my gold.) I have had physical gold a lot longer (many years) than I have had bitcoins.
It might be insightful to figure out a percentage of people who have had bitcoin scammed/stolen from them.  I imagine it is higher percentage than gold, even when you include people that have lost their wedding ring accidentally, but I don't know.  Just a guess.

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November 20, 2013, 06:33:19 PM
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Buy a fake kilo bar and it will remind you of one of the benefits of bitcoin over gold.
Reality check.  How many tungsten core bars were found?
and...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0


Theft and counterfeiting are completely different.

Are you suggesting its easier to steal BTC than gold?

The difference between theft and counterfeiting is a matter for the lawyers.
Both are easy/hard to steal depending on security.
A lot of both is stolen, defrauded, scammed, whatever you like to call it.
Personally? I have had more BTC stolen than gold stolen (I had a bitcoin plus interest with coinlenders and some dust in inputs.io, no one has stolen any of my gold.) I have had physical gold a lot longer (many years) than I have had bitcoins.

all this means is you weren't paying attention.
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November 20, 2013, 06:35:10 PM
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all this means is you weren't paying attention.
And all that means is that you like to blame victims.

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November 20, 2013, 06:36:33 PM
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It might be insightful to figure out a percentage of people who have had bitcoin scammed/stolen from them.  I imagine it is higher percentage than gold, even when you include people that have lost their wedding ring accidentally, but I don't know.  Just a guess.

We can do a straw poll here since it is a thread probably made of folks with an interest in both or owning both.

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November 20, 2013, 06:37:12 PM
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all this means is you weren't paying attention.
And all that means is that you like to blame victims.

at what point do you wish to take responsibility for your own actions?
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November 20, 2013, 06:38:30 PM
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I'll just say barbarous relic. Cheesy

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November 20, 2013, 06:42:43 PM
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It might be insightful to figure out a percentage of people who have had bitcoin scammed/stolen from them.  I imagine it is higher percentage than gold, even when you include people that have lost their wedding ring accidentally, but I don't know.  Just a guess.

We can do a straw poll here since it is a thread probably made of folks with an interest in both or owning both.

lost 10 BTC in bitcoinica, wasn't a big deal at the time...lol

lost all the PMs in a freak boating accident

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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November 20, 2013, 06:55:25 PM
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all this means is you weren't paying attention.
And all that means is that you like to blame victims.

my entry into Bitcoin was 1/3 trading, 1/3 mining, and 1/3 Bitcoin investments.

Trading, = I should have just bought and held
Mining = wow, all the money I printed is safe.
Investments = Stolen / scam or very bad performance. (despite Pirate 40 and similar ponzi's been obvious to avoid. )

Blame the victim, but Bitcoin has been a haven for scams, I'll guess even another 30% of legitimate businesses will lose entrusted Bitcoin's and blame it on a hack or something.

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November 20, 2013, 06:56:52 PM
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It might be insightful to figure out a percentage of people who have had bitcoin scammed/stolen from them.  I imagine it is higher percentage than gold, even when you include people that have lost their wedding ring accidentally, but I don't know.  Just a guess.

We can do a straw poll here since it is a thread probably made of folks with an interest in both or owning both.
Then you might as well include all the scams and theft of US dollars and other currency.  Heck might as well include all credit card fraud.  That's still scammed/stolen isn't it?
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November 20, 2013, 06:59:40 PM
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all this means is you weren't paying attention.
And all that means is that you like to blame victims.

at what point do you wish to take responsibility for your own actions?

Live and learn, 99.9999% of us weren't brought up in the Bitcoin environment, and have to make mistakes, it isn't fun, but I prefer it, i am 100% in control, and not spending is a viable option.  

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November 20, 2013, 07:02:36 PM
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oops, silver below $20.
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