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Author Topic: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending"  (Read 108091 times)
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August 14, 2012, 07:29:33 PM
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So deposit funds for longer periods such as with Hashking ...

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August 14, 2012, 07:40:18 PM
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If he really wanted stability he would have put a bonus on stable deposits, while reducing the interest.
Basically stable deposits would get the same interests rate, and unstable would get less.

But as far as I know, he's not doing that. So imo either his business model is less profitable (and it's not related to funds stability) , either he just doesn't want to give you that much money anymore because the ponzi is collapsing too fast (depending on your opinion on what pirate is doing)

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August 14, 2012, 07:45:32 PM
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5% weekly, that's something like 1164% annualized I think? Still well into classical-ponzi territory.

same level of risk (unable to withdraw principal plus any reinvested interest).

there's now a much longer period before new investment or reinvestment will break even.

i wonder what time it is on the ponzi doomsday clock.  it must be getting close to 11:59.
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August 14, 2012, 07:51:37 PM
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those who have already withdrawn their original principal might be thinking they can't lose.  they might want to read this:

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If the games were unlicensed and illegal, any transactions from the games were void. Investors’ money handed to winning players like Maguire could be clawed back through civil suits.

http://www.celebuzz.com/2012-08-13/ponzi-mastermind-who-lost-clients-millions-in-hollywood-poker-breaks-silence-new-details-inside-games-played-by-tobey-maguire-ben-affleck-and-matt-damon
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August 14, 2012, 08:10:10 PM
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those who have already withdrawn their original principal might be thinking they can't lose.  they might want to read this:

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If the games were unlicensed and illegal, any transactions from the games were void. Investors’ money handed to winning players like Maguire could be clawed back through civil suits.

http://www.celebuzz.com/2012-08-13/ponzi-mastermind-who-lost-clients-millions-in-hollywood-poker-breaks-silence-new-details-inside-games-played-by-tobey-maguire-ben-affleck-and-matt-damon

There's no legal framework for doing "claw-back" of bitcoins.

If stability is the issue then wouldn't it make sense to incentivise based on the stability of accounts (such as the 0.5% bonus for account balance staying within a certain range) rather than on the overall size of accounts?
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August 14, 2012, 08:26:07 PM
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those who have already withdrawn their original principal might be thinking they can't lose.  they might want to read this:

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If the games were unlicensed and illegal, any transactions from the games were void. Investors’ money handed to winning players like Maguire could be clawed back through civil suits.

http://www.celebuzz.com/2012-08-13/ponzi-mastermind-who-lost-clients-millions-in-hollywood-poker-breaks-silence-new-details-inside-games-played-by-tobey-maguire-ben-affleck-and-matt-damon


Oh shut up fascist. I have no problem with ponzi talks and whinnings, but don't drag the parasites that be into this, thanks.

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August 14, 2012, 08:44:08 PM
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Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

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August 14, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
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Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

We know what pirate looks like and also his name, unless he gets plastic surgery and lives in the form of Michael Jackson its even more unlikely he would be able to just vanish.


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August 14, 2012, 08:58:13 PM
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http://consc.net/misc/proofs.html lol, same proof?

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August 14, 2012, 09:01:40 PM
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Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

We know what pirate looks like and also his name, unless he gets plastic surgery and lives in the form of Michael Jackson its even more unlikely he would be able to just vanish.



Really? What is his name? Source?

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August 14, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
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Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

We know what pirate looks like and also his name, unless he gets plastic surgery and lives in the form of Michael Jackson its even more unlikely he would be able to just vanish.



Really? What is his name? Source?
Why do you need to know his name? I assume you aren't invested.
Apart from that its not for anyone else to give out anyones details

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August 14, 2012, 09:04:35 PM
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Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

We know what pirate looks like and also his name, unless he gets plastic surgery and lives in the form of Michael Jackson its even more unlikely he would be able to just vanish.



Really? What is his name? Source?

Late to the ponzi party, are we?

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August 14, 2012, 09:11:52 PM
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Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

We know what pirate looks like and also his name, unless he gets plastic surgery and lives in the form of Michael Jackson its even more unlikely he would be able to just vanish.



Really? What is his name? Source?
Why do you need to know his name? I assume you aren't invested.
Apart from that its not for anyone else to give out anyones details

I'm not the one who brought up pirate's identity. But since Clipse did bring it up, it is interesting to the audience here.


Late to the ponzi party, are we?

At least you're openly admitting it now.


Still would be interesting to see these advocates of transparency provide the information that they themselves assert is publicly available. Either you will or you won't, but the hesitation and defensive stance is telling.

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August 14, 2012, 09:14:32 PM
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Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

We know what pirate looks like and also his name, unless he gets plastic surgery and lives in the form of Michael Jackson its even more unlikely he would be able to just vanish.



Really? What is his name? Source?
Why do you need to know his name? I assume you aren't invested.
Apart from that its not for anyone else to give out anyones details

I'm not the one who brought up pirate's identity. But since Clipse did bring it up, it is interesting to the audience here.


Late to the ponzi party, are we?

At least you're openly admitting it now.


Still would be interesting to see these advocates of transparency provide the information that they themselves assert is publicly available.

by "we" clipse meant us, not you
by "ponzi party" psy meant you, not us

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August 14, 2012, 09:15:30 PM
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Late to the ponzi party, are we?

At least you're openly admitting it now.


Still would be interesting to see these advocates of transparency provide the information that they themselves assert is publicly available.

Are you from this planet? The only person late is you, with all the times people posted his identity in these type of threads before.
Scream PONZI a little more.

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August 14, 2012, 09:19:55 PM
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Interesting turn of events. Even so, the core ponzi scam can probably continue for some time, along with the various leeching schemes.

Clawbacks can't happen unless operators and other participants are positively identified. However, if someone slips up, it is possible that a dedicated set of doxers could trace things back quite a ways. Most people do not have the combined skill and discipline to maintain perfect anonymity. With any luck, the trail will permit for some to be identified.

We know what pirate looks like and also his name, unless he gets plastic surgery and lives in the form of Michael Jackson its even more unlikely he would be able to just vanish.



Really? What is his name? Source?
Allegedly:
http://www.facebook.com/trendon.shavers?sk=wall
http://www.linkedin.com/in/businesscognition
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/McKinney/trendon-shavers/101281327.aspx
http://www.co.midland.tx.us/da/hotcheckwarrants/list/?lname=sz
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August 14, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
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Midland... same as GW...

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August 14, 2012, 09:30:29 PM
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well if you're going to edit out what i'm laughing at, i'm... still going to laugh at you, haha

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August 14, 2012, 10:17:13 PM
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nice try on the post rollbacks  Grin

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August 14, 2012, 10:18:04 PM
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by "we" clipse meant us, not you
by "ponzi party" psy meant you, not us

 Cheesy

As I said, your unimaginative response it predictably telling.


Late to the ponzi party, are we?

At least you're openly admitting it now.


Still would be interesting to see these advocates of transparency provide the information that they themselves assert is publicly available.

Are you from this planet? The only person late is you, with all the times people posted his identity in these type of threads before.
Scream PONZI a little more.

No need. Your contributions have not been helping your cause. I've caught you stealth-deleting a few posts already. Maybe your colleagues will continue to encourage you to post a bit less.


How charming. Passing bad checks in Texas... is this warrant still out on the alleged pirate?

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