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Author Topic: [UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative  (Read 433436 times)
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October 02, 2015, 04:21:09 AM
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How is votescore calculated?  It seems... arbitrary.  Also, what bearing does it have on it's node status?

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October 02, 2015, 06:36:08 AM
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Seems we got our own subforum under bitcoin.com thanks to Roger Ver.

https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/217/forum-bitcoin-com

Only a few alternative crypto-currencies got their own subforum so far, seem they consider us a major project since John got personally got notice of this. Direct link to the forum: https://forum.bitcoin.com/vanillacoin-f76/

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October 02, 2015, 06:36:30 AM
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I'll post this one more time.


I went through this exactly the same with Qora. The tech was amazing, the developer was seen as a genius and the community just stuck their head in the sands until eventually the coin is regarded as crap even though its as good as ETH, NXT and NEM combined.





Coins have a sell by date and VNL is running out. This community IF they want their coins not to be worthless and unable to even sell due to low vol forever need to listen up, and listen good.



This community NEEDS to meet FUD of the coin with a peer review of the coin. This will completely cancel out any FUD that has destroyed the price....

I won't warn you guys again, arrogance was what killed Qora...it can kill this coin too..I warned you.



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October 02, 2015, 06:46:38 AM
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This community NEEDS to meet FUD of the coin with a peer review of the coin.

VNL's stolen Bitcoin code is an established fact, not FUD.  As is your core dev's unprofessional, responsibility dodging 'deny-attack-deflect' response.

Before getting into VNL specifics, you'll need a whitepaper (or three) to justify the terrible choice of involving proof-of-stake.

The bar has been set very high, and is definitely out-of-reach for the tiny, toxic VNL community pump group.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n4jnt/bitfury_white_paper_proof_of_stake_versus_proof/

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The conclusion is that Proof of Stake systems have too many security issues.


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October 02, 2015, 06:58:09 AM
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Nice drama, 'm glad I'm not involved yet, because this will compress the price further more

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October 02, 2015, 07:42:33 AM
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@iCEBREAKER

There are atleast as much whitepapers pro POS as contra POS. Same goes for POW. Also POW/POS hybrid choice was justified in the whitepaper.

The only community on BCT that is toxic is XMR's. You are the only community who literally visit other projects topics just to troll and spam. If XMR would launch today with the current drained alt markets with that non-existent development pace it would be dead on arrival and still you are here spamming the thread instead of taking part of your own projects well-being. Sad.

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October 02, 2015, 07:45:26 AM
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Lol so now all pos coins are Bad too?

Thank God ETH is not pos yet  Grin

C'mon dude..  Get a life Smiley

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October 02, 2015, 07:46:48 AM
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Lol so now all pos coins are Bad too?

Thank God ETH is not pos yet  Grin

C'mon dude..  Get a life Smiley

Sad guy really, if you check his comment history he is literally spending his life on BCT. Comments at every hour of the day. Living stereotype of a troll.

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October 02, 2015, 07:55:19 AM
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Lol so now all pos coins are Bad too?

Thank God ETH is not pos yet  Grin

C'mon dude..  Get a life Smiley

Sad guy really, if you check his comment history he is literally spending his life on BCT. Comments at every hour of the day. Living stereotype of a troll.

Yes it seems so.

Maybe he has a serious illness and cannot move out of bed/house...

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October 02, 2015, 08:57:49 AM
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need some help here please for android wallet won`t syn,have been re dl the apk(0.3.3) but it still stuck at 99.48%
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October 02, 2015, 10:02:35 AM
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This community NEEDS to meet FUD of the coin with a peer review of the coin.

VNL's stolen Bitcoin code is an established fact, not FUD.  As is your core dev's unprofessional, responsibility dodging 'deny-attack-deflect' response.

Before getting into VNL specifics, you'll need a whitepaper (or three) to justify the terrible choice of involving proof-of-stake.

The bar has been set very high, and is definitely out-of-reach for the tiny, toxic VNL community pump group.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n4jnt/bitfury_white_paper_proof_of_stake_versus_proof/

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The conclusion is that Proof of Stake systems have too many security issues.
They forgot to check http://www.vericoin.info/downloads/VeriCoinPoSTWhitePaper10May2015.pdf

It solves all the security issues Smiley

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October 02, 2015, 01:49:13 PM
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Lol so now all pos coins are Bad too?

Thank God ETH is not pos yet  Grin

C'mon dude..  Get a life Smiley

Sad guy really, if you check his comment history he is literally spending his life on BCT. Comments at every hour of the day. Living stereotype of a troll.

wow the lengths Icebreaker goes to justify his own position of being a gigantic waste of space is just amazing...

one question icebreaker.

What have you ever done that makes you an expert on anything besides repetition and trolling?

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October 02, 2015, 03:18:37 PM
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I'll post this one more time.


I went through this exactly the same with Qora. The tech was amazing, the developer was seen as a genius and the community just stuck their head in the sands until eventually the coin is regarded as crap even though its as good as ETH, NXT and NEM combined.





Coins have a sell by date and VNL is running out. This community IF they want their coins not to be worthless and unable to even sell due to low vol forever need to listen up, and listen good.



This community NEEDS to meet FUD of the coin with a peer review of the coin. This will completely cancel out any FUD that has destroyed the price....

I won't warn you guys again, arrogance was what killed Qora...it can kill this coin too..I warned you.


I'm not sure why you compare VNL with QORA:

a) First major flaw - "no PoW no WoW" © ocminer


b) It started with unsustainable marketcap for a brand new coin.


c) and the final nail in the coffin

In my opinion it is more accurate to compare QORA with NEM or Vice versa, but not with VNL. Also, as far as I know, QORA dev has left the ship.


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October 02, 2015, 05:38:49 PM
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I'll post this one more time.


I went through this exactly the same with Qora. The tech was amazing, the developer was seen as a genius and the community just stuck their head in the sands until eventually the coin is regarded as crap even though its as good as ETH, NXT and NEM combined.





Coins have a sell by date and VNL is running out. This community IF they want their coins not to be worthless and unable to even sell due to low vol forever need to listen up, and listen good.



This community NEEDS to meet FUD of the coin with a peer review of the coin. This will completely cancel out any FUD that has destroyed the price....

I won't warn you guys again, arrogance was what killed Qora...it can kill this coin too..I warned you.


I'm not sure why you compare VNL with QORA:

a) First major flaw - "no PoW no WoW" © ocminer


b) It started with unsustainable marketcap for a brand new coin.


c) and the final nail in the coffin

In my opinion it is more accurate to compare QORA with NEM or Vice versa, but not with VNL. Also, as far as I know, QORA dev has left the ship.





your instincts are to simply attack anyone who doesn't agree with your community rather than try to listen to what they are saying. I never said VNL was the same in terms of tech. The issue is if a coin is allowed to die on the vine by a community too stubborn or arrogant or both to address concerns for a coin then it doesn't actually have a right to expect anyone to buy it.

Simple, get a peer review, show you don't need to hide. Cause if you don't soon you will look like you hiding. Communities make or break a coin, please tell me there is a sane person here that gets the coin needs to answer critics with a peer review and then we can move on.
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October 02, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
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your instincts are to simply attack anyone who doesn't agree with your community rather than try to listen to what they are saying. I never said VNL was the same in terms of tech. The issue is if a coin is allowed to die on the vine by a community too stubborn or arrogant or both to address concerns for a coin then it doesn't actually have a right to expect anyone to buy it.

Simple, get a peer review, show you don't need to hide. Cause if you don't soon you will look like you hiding. Communities make or break a coin, please tell me there is a sane person here that gets the coin needs to answer critics with a peer review and then we can move on.

It's open source, how could you hide anything? Also everything will come with time, currently this is a beta software with continuous development. Marketing/promotions will come when it's ready (DarkPP,etc.).

I can't say anything for QORA since I don't know it, but we are progressing steadily.

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your instincts are to simply attack anyone who doesn't agree with your community rather than try to listen to what they are saying. I never said VNL was the same in terms of tech. The issue is if a coin is allowed to die on the vine by a community too stubborn or arrogant or both to address concerns for a coin then it doesn't actually have a right to expect anyone to buy it.

Simple, get a peer review, show you don't need to hide. Cause if you don't soon you will look like you hiding. Communities make or break a coin, please tell me there is a sane person here that gets the coin needs to answer critics with a peer review and then we can move on.

Don't exaggerate, I just said that you are trying to compare different things based on past bad experiences. VNL is a long term project (years, not months), don't expect everything at once. It's constantly evolving and that is great.



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October 02, 2015, 08:05:02 PM
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Why false?
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October 02, 2015, 08:20:29 PM
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Why false?


Try sending your coins to a different VNL address, sending them back to your supernode address, then restart the wallet.  worked for me.

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October 02, 2015, 08:23:11 PM
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Why false?

Resend 10k (or more) VNL to your default wallet address in 1 transaction, then restart your wallet, unlock it and wait 15 minutes. If all done right, status will change to
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"votecandidate": true

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October 02, 2015, 08:38:10 PM
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Why false?

Resend 10k (or more) VNL to your default wallet address in 1 transaction, then restart your wallet, unlock it and wait 15 minutes. If all done right, status will change to
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