48 hours is too short a period of time, hardly enough to get the BTC to you on time. Why the rush?

The 6000 Bro per BTC have 6000 Bergstake, right?

For Jay- How does Bergstake behaves when mining, does high number of bergstake have preference over small numbers like in the NEXT case?

Thanks!

I am much more with Lupin on this, UK. Ethereum, when and if it does happen -I believe it will, but probably years from now still- will be so much more advanced than anything our boys (stooges) can concoct now or ever that it would be, really, a total waste of time and unrewarded efforts. Let them concentrate on their school papers, they are hard enough. And it seems in those other fields, they could be going places. Not here, definitively. Nor they need to... beyond whatever "cool" thing they may stomp in while practicing their "hobby" on their spare time. Let James do the lifting, since he is both capable and he said he would. But with the only caveat that it has to be CLEAN. It has to be LEGAL when legality is an issue (very, very soon). He's a bright guy, he'll think of something. Why burden the boys with something which is so obviously stratospherically above their heads? No practical point in that, really. They may do something really really cool like having the links turning to purple (hell, even first purple, then gree) when the mouse hover over them, how's that?

And, in exchange, Doug, Pat, how about keeping us posted about those quarterly evaluations at school, ah? Make us proud and let's celebrate!

The "revamped" Pink Coin was launched in the later part of May 2014, salvaged from the initial one that was abandoned by its dev, "Bigman". "Crypto Cayce", the largest holder, was the key player in the "revamping" of a coin that, in spite of the anonymity of all members of its dev team, made a point of divulging transparency, as well as honesty and charitable generosity, as it's main mantra.

Just another copy/paste hackjob on the tech side, Pink Coin got my attention and soon after I listed it as the (first and so far only) coin in my WALL OF HONOR, right here on these boards. I "bit" and believed that it could be the coin with a future, the clean coin in a sea of scams. Not only did I listed first in THE WALL OF HONOR, I invested in it (modestly) and was willing to work very, very hard for it, for years for I envisioned a potential great future for the project... if the community was willing to do what was necessary to achieve it. I devised and presented (to Crypto Cayce) a plan of action that required some investment, a very small investment considering the scope and sheer duration of the plan (all the details of the proposal have been posted a couple of times in the thread of The revamped Pinkcoin, here at BTCT). Within less than 2 hours, I realize the "pinkcoiners" weren't even remotely ready to support with their donations the proposal and I retired it from even consideration while urging volunteers to pick up whatever part they could of the initial plan to move the project forward. No one did.

I was quite impressed (and it was going to be a big part of my plan) by the charity aspect, with hefty goals ($20,000 for Cancer prevention goal, to be delivered by October 30th). Many more causes to be followed...

As impressed as I was when, following the lead and standard set up by the dev team at Vericoin, soon afterwards (early July), I was even more impressed when all but one (Sumgye) of the six devs came fully public (until then only the guy in Pakistan, Sony Sasankan, was no anonymous). The last one was Crypto Cayce who happened to be a semi-pro poker player (currently like #750 or so in the world ranking) by the name of Danny Johnson. Impressed and a bit worried shortly thereafter for it was already well documented that Crypto Cayce was the largest holder or one of the largest holders of the coin with over 45 million of the total of over 360 million the coin had. My reasons to worry materialized when forced by the community, they devs improvised and "anon" feature that clearly diverged from the original path toward transparency and full compliance with regulations when and where they would appear. The "anon" feature, when finally worked, was not only a departure from the original path but even as an option, evidently a positioning against the initial core values of the project.

It was no surprise to anyone that shortly after being known that Danny Johnson was the largest holder and a pro player, that Pink would continue its development further and further from the original plan, now developing a poker playing platform. Poker, I remind you, is illegal in the United States where the coin is based.

I posted my opposition to these developments several times and, more loudly when it became not just known but promoted on the Opening Post of the BTCT thread, that the "anon" feature, as well as the lottery bot and the poker platform were FOR SALE to any other coins with the procees of such sales going to the pockets of the developers who had used donations to develop and/or pay for that software. This was very "unpinky". So, after sounding the alarm, I decided to start looking under the rugs to see what else wasn't pink at all... I found that not only the goal of $20k for Cancer prevention charity had been cut in half but that, actually, no one had donated anything for over 2 months and that the total had reached only 9 donations adding up to $600. No one was doing anything about donations, not even mentioning them anymore in social media. The only other source of donation to the cause was the Twitter lottery bot that in spite of being hailed as extremely successful, has brought a total of just about $300 altogether.

I kept looking... just in the very public thread, and soon I discovered that while all of this was going on, something else had too: The developers, all of them, had been dumping millions and millions of coins. Here's a detail of what I found as I posted it on the thread:

"Especifically you (Sony) DUMPED almost the total of 3 million coins plus you got. 733k left out of 3.4 mill. One has to eat and pay rent, right?

Edit to add:

Fayoling, all of his 567,633 coins, DUMPED (that's, obviously, the signature address only. There are other addresses, of course.

Sumgye, all his 100+k, dumped... that would be from the address on his signature. His OTHER address is a bit more telling though:PTz9c7gsDu14FnD6tPFFUPy9rihVXH7GTx. You can see how he has DUMPED 23.4 million OF HIS TOTAL OF JUST OVER 25 MILLION. Do you think Sonnyboy that capitals are warranted?

Owl - out of 10 million, 7 million DUMPED.

All of this is very easy to corroborate just checking your known wallets, SPECIFIC FACTS, as usual.

To the nutcase: On May 30th, Danny has already admitted he had "around 45 million coins" (and here is the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624017.msg6999294#msg6999294; besides him, "Dr. G" also had in excess of that amount... Also this guys had in excess of that amount "for the long term":https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624017.msg6997690#msg6997690... which proves, in case there was any doubt, that you are not only a sick, lying nutcase, but that you have no idea, ever what the fuck you are talking about.

To the forgetful Danny, here's for your remembrance: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624017.msg7042831#msg7042831. And so you don't have to read the entire post, the lines that count are here: "I personally bought 1,000,000 Pinkcoins at market rate directly from @CryptoCayce since I liked the group's outreach plans and projects mentioned in their announcement." (quotes and bolding are added by me).

Now, to all pinkcoin holders interested: The above is just a glimpse of who you have developing this project, only 5 months into it. The real behind the scenes action, including selling of software (that they don't bother to even hide anymore, because the cat's out of the hat), hush-hush transactions off-market, etc. I can assure you are much, MUCH more numerous that what has been showed here. It's a whole world out there. With the facts presented, which is just the tip of the iceberg, it's up for you to decide if continuing supporting what was once a great idea and has become a total embarrassment for all who, like me, once believed in it.

Danny, I know you have me on ignore, but I'm sure you are going to get a bit of a smell of this post. Your credibility is gone man, sorry. And I am going to go a bit further and openly accuse you of lying about having given away 14 million pinkcoins. You haven't. Not even close to that figure. That would be almost 3 million coins a month... in what? to who? Sorry but no way. I am calling your bluff."



The "sick nutcase" mentioned is Spock Skywalker, one of the "pinkarmy" elements bent on negating all forms of evidence, no matter how irrefutable.

After calling on the lies by Crypto Cayce, one has to smile when reading the "explanation" by "Sumgye":

"I've never had anywhere near 25m pink. That is indeed my address, but you do realize that part of the way staking works is that the wallet resets coin ages by sending coins to itself, right? And the explorer doesn't differentiate between self-sent coins and coins sent to others. So, in simplest terms, every time I stake 1m coins, the explorer says I both Sent 1m more coins and Received 1m more coins. That's just how it works.

As for why it's not staking right now, well I haven't actually had access to that wallet in over a month now, since it's stuck on a hard drive in a broken PC.

As for the 100k in my Sig address, those all went into testing the Anon feature back at the end of May for crying out loud, and I honestly don't remember what address they went to after that. But you're really reaching on that one. As if anyone would have minded me 'dumping' 100k at ~40 sats in the first place."

Followed by:

"Hmm. I just went to try and find another wallet with huge sends and receives and realized the explorer seems to account for that now. I'm not entirely sure what's going on with all that 'send' and 'receive'. I know I've got more than 1.7m on that computer right now (I should actually have about 3m in that wallet). It must be in some change address. I'm not really sure. What I can tell you is that I never had anywhere near 25m coins. Not even close. I did do a LOT of testing on the anon system months ago, and my coins have shifted quite a bit in my wallet, and truth be told I did sell about 3 million coins over the course of the last 6 months, most directly to other members of the PinkCoin team, though I haven't sold any in over two months now. I have also given away & contributed about 2m coins to support various projects and people, if anyone's curious."

No further comment need to be added... except that, as evidenced many times, these guys are not only not bothered by the fact that they sell off market millions of coins, but consider it perfectly acceptable regardless of the obvious impact that such transactions would have in the regular market. They just don't care. All they care about is to line his pockets. Not the coin. Not the direction of the project. Not the charity results.

Naturally, when corralled with all the evidence, there's only one place to go: Hide. So they have. As of today they have closed the public thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624017.2460 and started instead a censored one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=836437.0  in which they can continue their lies and their behind the scenes deals while the audience (and market cap of the coin), is more and more reduced by the minute.

Now those who may still be interested in what has become a joke of a project and a minimal side show coin in alt, they'll still have this new thread where the truth and the facts will remain for everyone to see, far from any censorship.

As a side note, I'll mention that the entire dev team sponsored, supported and heavily promoted the launching of SEED coin recently, by an anonymous dev without any other credit that being a "personal friend of "sumgye". You can head over there to see what happened with that launching that took away the last straw of credibility the devs of Pink may have had left as the co-responsible parties of that debacle in which the dev team of PINK and the friendly dev now control more than half the total of (absolutely worthless) coins. The thread, for now, remains public but I'd bet it will be shut down any moment now to opt, again, for the same solution implemented by the Pinks: Censorship.

piece of advise on both: Run, not walk from both these debacles and as far as you can from the individuals behind them.

You may want to rephrase that a bit... you know, as it is you dont come across as the sharpest knife in the kitchen...

See what I do to hrlp Fay? There you have a +1. Guaranteed.

Another sterling success for yet another of your proposals ah?
The pinkcoin millonaires dont seem to be drinking the kool-aid...

Keep on trying ok? The SEED ones did, right? It may work...

Now investing all of 3 dollars in support is downright insulting, dont you think?

Amazing, simply amazing...

I a much, much, much smaller player than that. And I am not talking the price down at all or being negative, I am posting clear realities and very educated points of view.

It is my understanding -but could be wrong- that James invested around 100 BTC in VRC around 10 and 12K, so you must be talking about those.

Oh and I believe you will feel way more comfortable down the corridor, on the right, at the new forums. They are a bit more optimistic over there...

It would appear that you have quite a bit of trouble with numbers. And with memory. And with reality.

Indeed.

Do you know what is really "peculiar"? That you don't even give a second thought to the propriety or not of doing deals, all kinds of deals, behind the curtains so to speak, be it pay -to yourself, I would imagine- for anon (a feature you are actually SELLING to other parties too) or sell to whomever, off-market millions of coins. Amazing in and of itself... if anything at all would cause me amazement anymore here.

As for SEED, as you very well know, it is totally and completely WORTHLESS... whether if your pals there (and co-devs here) were to continue with their practices of buying or selling off market or not.

Sorry Sumgye but you should know that trying to bullshit at this stage is an exercise in futility. No amount of smoke and mirrors will change the FACTS. But you are welcome to keep on trying although, since you have your pinkarmy believing any crap you say, probably a more dignify way would be to jujst avoid the thing altogether rather than put yourself even deeper in the mud.

May I suggest to try to salvage somewhat the disaster that your friend perpetrated at SEED instead? I have even already suggested the way to do it. It is a GOOD, viable way. Here? nothing that you can say or do will change the FACTS. Pure and simple.

If you already know the truth, why do you keep on posting shit that you know are lies? Oh well, whatever rocks your boat...

As for IE, I have posted right here on this wall what I think of what he did -or said he was doing- with the donations from BC community for the Wall Street event. That granted his inclusion in this wall of SHAME. And as usual, I extended myself quite a bit to express why and just how wrong I know what he did or said he would do was.

Other than that, I don't have enough knowledge of him to have a deeper opinion. The little that I know though, shows me he is way more intelligent that 99% of the rest of the people in crypto, so I'll follow with some interest the developments in his coin launch... which, by the way, couldn't possible have chosen a most adverse time.

Kid, I know you mean well. I know you have never wanted to scam anyone... and, thankfully, you were not given the chance to do so because, quite frankly, you would probably have done it. And I believe you can code. But surely you can see this is a total disaster, impossible to recoup, UNLESS Fayoling and the other top 5 wallets (and the rest in the top 20), get 90% of their holdings destroyed. If you don't do and get them to do that, there's no chance whatsoever this is going to go anywhere from here, except down more; if you guys do that, on the other hand, there's no reason whatsoever this one cannot be one among the many other copy/pasted hackjobs out there that with a community of 100 or more can sustain a decent and REAL valuation, between $15 and $30k.

This will be my last suggestion so you can salvage it and everyone get their investment back and maybe some extra on the side; otherwise, not a penny. Up to you one more time. It is what it is.

You, of course, are free to invest your time and efforts any way you please but, if not under that plan, you are wasting both in an exercise in absurdity... except if you consider it "fun", in which case, any price is justified to pay for good comedy.

Failing not only is not bad, it is good because we can learn valuable lessons from failures and mistakes; on the other hand, insisting that a total failure is not and, worse yet, spend time and effort to "show that it isn't", has no redeeming qualities. Nor fruits.

It isn't a matter of semantics or "call it"; it is what it is. Both Litecoin and Dogecoin are only, strictly, currencies. No pretension of owning or becoming "assets", just alternative currencies. Presently, Vericoin is going in the direction of becoming a business (in decentralized cloud storage, no less) and the market is saying, clearly, unambiguously, "no, there's no future in that for VRC". Therefore the discrepancy in valuation.

There are other factors, of course but I submit of less importance: Both are much more established currencies and with much stronger communities behind them, while VRC is one of many "new kids on the block" that, on its own, has reached already "point of saturation", so to speak.

I've been in the bunker already for the whole weekend, what happened?

It must be related to the "river of donations..."

On to the significant issues:

"Especifically you (Sony) DUMPED almost the total of 3 million coins plus you got. 733k left out of 3.4 mill. One has to eat and pay rent, right?

Edit to add:

Fayoling, all of his 567,633 coins, DUMPED (that's, obviously, the signature address only. There are other addresses, of course.

Sumgye, all his 100+k, dumped... that would be from the address on his signature. His OTHER address is a bit more telling though:PTz9c7gsDu14FnD6tPFFUPy9rihVXH7GTx. You can see how he has DUMPED 23.4 million OF HIS TOTAL OF JUST OVER 25 MILLION. Do you think Sonnyboy that capitals are warranted?

Owl - out of 10 million, 7 million DUMPED.

All of this is very easy to corroborate just checking your known wallets, SPECIFIC FACTS, as usual.

To the nutcase: On May 30th, Danny has already admitted he had "around 45 million coins" (and here is the proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624017.msg6999294#msg6999294; besides him, "Dr. G" also had in excess of that amount... Also this guys had in excess of that amount "for the long term":https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624017.msg6997690#msg6997690... which proves, in case there was any doubt, that you are not only a sick, lying nutcase, but that you have no idea, ever what the fuck you are talking about.

To the forgetful Danny, here's for your remembrance: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624017.msg7042831#msg7042831. And so you don't have to read the entire post, the lines that count are here: "I personally bought 1,000,000 Pinkcoins at market rate directly from @CryptoCayce since I liked the group's outreach plans and projects mentioned in their announcement." (quotes and bolding are added by me).

Now, to all pinkcoin holders interested: The above is just a glimpse of who you have developing this project, only 5 months into it. The real behind the scenes action, including selling of software (that they don't bother to even hide anymore, because the cat's out of the hat), hush-hush transactions off-market, etc. I can assure you are much, MUCH more numerous that what has been showed here. It's a whole world out there. With the facts presented, which is just the tip of the iceberg, it's up for you to decide if continuing supporting what was once a great idea and has become a total embarrassment for all who, like me, once believed in it.

Danny, I know you have me on ignore, but I'm sure you are going to get a bit of a smell of this post. Your credibility is gone man, sorry. And I am going to go a bit further and openly accuse you of lying about having given away 14 million pinkcoins. You haven't. Not even close to that figure. That would be almost 3 million coins a month... in what? to who? Sorry but no way. I am calling your bluff."

As for me, everyone and their aunts know I am a swing trader with a modest position on Pink which I have documented and have traded several times, and still some remaining which I plan on getting rid of at my convenience. Mine are a minimal part of those 75 million deposited at Bittrex that are ready to go on sale. Anything else you wish to know?

No matter how much you look for escapes, there are none. It's game, set and match, sonny boy.

Yep I was THE one that took down that LibertyCoin scam -and documented it profusely, as usual-. It is up there for everyone to check, not only in THE WALL OF SHAME but in it's own thread for all the details to be known/seen by everyone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627704.0

Would it be perhaps because those two are just CURRENCIES and with no intention whatsoever to ever become "businesses" or "assets"?

Just a thought.

You see UK what a little bit of ego-stroking will get you? It will also work on Nosker, believe me... Dave, he just doesn't give a crap... but would appreciate any ego-stroking also... human nature, of course.

Well, at least you have got him to admit, once again, that we are going in circles here at VRC, meaning nowhere. Because, sorry UK but you are ALSO wrong, regarding the exchange. And the marketplace. As I have stated before many times, digital currencies are, by design, companions of FIAT as currencies. Apple is launching one, that will be effective, very effective, but it is pegged to FIAT. It won't happen to digital currencies in a very long time (and then only in isolated cases, i.e.: Overstock.com), because there's not enough advantage in them to justify the risk it currently involves such acceptance. And, when it does, it will be Bitcoin, not VRC nor any other alt. Now, as a tradeable storage of value, the alt world is coming to a crashing end altogether very qyuickly due to the staggering amount of scams, mostly. And because enough risk -and reward- is already provided by bitcoin itself. No need for the other crap that bring very little in anything at all to the table. But, if VRC is to survive and play a minimal part in the future of these currencies, it will be as a currency, NOT as a business. There are already, and have been for a while, a lot of "businesses" around the digital currencies. All of them failed. There's the E-bay equivalent, has been around for a while (not just one, several, Unbrakable coin has been trying to get action in his own for months already: failed). Xbot recently tried and failed miserably to get people to exchange shit over twitter and its chinese equivalent... Fact is that any exchange digital currencies users want to have, they can have it already using available tools and currencies... as well as escrow services. You want to sell anything, post it here or in several other threads or forums and you will get people interested (one in 100 legit, by the way, don't forget this is the territory of scammers). Those REALLY interested, agree on a price, set an escrow and close the deal. Very few do. That's the extent of what an "exchange" with digital currencies will ever imply, associated with a specific currency or not. The Cannabis recent p&d will show you, again, that even for the "high crowd", there's just no way on Earth for it to work. Not even on "medicinal stuff".

No need to mention again the absurd idea of a "decentralized cloud storage" business associated with VRC or any other digital currency. Everyone with any common sense, already has all the info they want to use.

But, UK, ego-stroking or not, you are not going to be invited to the Xmas party if you keep mentioning me man. You know the mantra, don't you? I could be Jesus Christ himself, for real, not a "barabbas" handle and still whatever I propose, no matter how incredibly opportune it might be, is a no-no by definition... and because, you know, I call a dog ... well a dog. A stooge, a stooge. Or a headless hen, a headless hen. And that, you know, takes all the merit away from any and all ideas, so don't waste your time... You do know what kind of people you are dealing with here. In the devs AND in the choirboys. Remember the guy in Minnesota and the fair? well, there you have it. And that one actually did something, imagine the other ones... Man, do not waste your time, really. Not worth it at all.

Now, as everyone knows, I was the first on these boards to support and push for James to join VRC. The effect was immediate and the price doubled in hours. Of course it did not last, among other things because it wasn't clear what if anything he was going to deliver for VRC in 6 months and also, let's be perfectly honest here, because the drought has reached digital currencies territory and the beginning of the end announced for alts. BOTH factors, not just one. Even the people that enthusiastically threw money at the Ethereum project will more than gladly get their BTC -devalued and all- back if the could now that they realize they will have it locked for many, months, perhaps years. It's another reality, quite different, from the reality that we were facing when James came in to VRC. Mind you, I still support James being part of VRC, not because I have any solid reason for it beyond the fact that, without him, we are back to square one -and not Summer anymore, so the kids are back in school-, meaning we have what we have, with all its enormous shortcomings, and we are never going to have anything better tech-wise, so James is, at the very least, a hope, a (remote) possibility of something more.

That said, the shine has gone. The "magic" is no longer. I don't know if anyone has bothered to check it but a look at the last 30 days behavior of James' main "assets", the Supernet, NXTVentures and JD777 HODL, will show you with no margin for doubt as to how the shine has gone. Considering that VRC has lost half its value since James propelled it to 17k ever so briefly, VRC is not doing that much worse than his other assets... which puts pretty much in question how much of an assets, really, the association is. Once again, not taking any position on this, just bringing the facts and reality up for consideration.

Anyway, I thought the choirboys would just play in their patio as they were so much complaining about the noise in this one, but, of course, what's shit will always stink and here they come again and again to keep on shitting in this one that is what they always did and wanted to do. It's tiresome. And not worth any efforts, really.

And, like I said, bringing me up here, UK, will not get you in on the Xmas party at Nosker's... actually, it will bring you to give him yet another opportunity to throw you out from it. Oh how he loves to do that... you know,  never in his life he was given such a chance so it is fulfilling a lifetime ungranted desire, don't take it personally...

And now we have just entered full nutcase territory...

Oh well people, as usual, real common-sensical people, knows way better than nutcases that store nude pics of their chicks -just how extended is that particular practice?- and hence why, again, VRC is goin straght down to the point of no return...
You people, the nutcases, have not seen what has happened and continue happening to ALL anon coins, including Dark? This will BEVER work. Ever. Anon is vapor. Everyone is identifiable at point of entry (into the net).

VRC: currency, not business... most particularly not a business destined to fail.

End of story.

I do indeed (like it). As a first step. Bergstake has to be explained simply and understandably and a working platform (at least for poker) needs to be made available for testing. If I undrrstand correctly, traditional mining is thus completely eliminated, right?

Still quite a ways to go.... here. Don't get me started on the other page.... No, I said do not!

Why stop at $10? Why not $50, $100... what the heck a round $1,000... to start?

Amazing, simply amazing...

But you see drkman? that's precisely what I am talking about: Vericoin SHOULD NOT go in that direction at all. utorrent, I don't know if it is a profitable business anymore or not. What I do know is that in the future there will NOT be illegal file-sharing. I also do know that the filesharing (legal one) will be massive... AND FREE. So the only potential business there is the current twitter/facebook advertising revenue one which is already taken by those and by the giants such as Google/Youtube, etc. I really can't see a viable, LEGAL, business there that will be able to compete with what already is out there, let alone what is about t be out there. Encrypted and non encrypted.

Furthermore, we are talking different interests and objective here: you (and James) are in the business of creating "assets", i.e.: business. James sees potential business/assets, on everything. And, sorry, but he is wrong: There's a better possibility of making a wildly profitable pornographic tape of two flies fucking, than the VRC radio, for instance, will ever be a profitable business, I don 't care if it is just Kevondo running and operating it 24/7. It is just not going to happen in this lifetime. By the same token, decentralized cloud storage will never be a stream revenue for Vericoin... or the Supernet. Too crowded, competitive space. Everyone (legit) that needs encrypted storage, already has it. No market left. But, even if there was one, the objective of Vericoin is to become a currency and a store of value, NOT a business, profitable or not. Different goals altogether. The success of Vericoin will be to be used by people to pay for things or to keep saving away from (big) inflation... maybe; the success of Vericoin with decentralized cloud storage would come, mainly, from selling those services. Different model altogether.

Way more importantly, that short of business would take Vericoin in all the wrong direction: Away from the laws, in danger of being shutdown altogether, sued and prosecuted by all kinds of organisms and agencies. Do we want to pursue that? I don't think so, sorry. Not even if there was a lot of potential money to be made in it, at that level of risk.

Vericoin should strive to be what always (originally) was: A cutting edge souped up fork with some cool features designed to attract the usage of people and merchants new and veterans of digital currencies. Nothing more, nothing less. For that, as I have said hundreds of times already, we need to talk to the people in a language that people can understand and not even remotely close to the tech babble that they can read in our website, for instance. We need to hit the pavement and sell on the idea the merchants, the logical users and customers, the ones that are already using them (digital currencies) and the ones that don't know anything about it and need to be persuaded that using VRC is good for them, that they will actually PROFIT from it.

As you well know I was the first and staunched supporter of VRC's alliance with James. And the idea of the Supernet. But not at the cost of the only real asset VRC has, which is the image of their dev teams and the transparency and support of the project AS IT WAS. I would continue supporting the integration in the SuperNet, but ONLY if it happens while safeguarding those REAL ASSETS VRC always had, because if not, any and all hope for a future is just thrown away. And, no matter what, pricewise the coin would not meaningfully rebound either whether or not James continues associated with it: Too far away into the future to have any repercussions beyond what it had already.

To keep it short and clear: VRC absolutely NEEDS to be first on line (or be on the front line) for legislation in the USA. It's coming, any moment now. Without it, a clandestine operation with no value or future whatsoever. A currency, NOT a business, remember.