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2181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 27, 2023, 08:00:46 PM
The score after the first half is 0-0 and it’s funny that with an overwhelming advantage in ball possession, Tottenham never hit the target. At the moment, the odds for Tottenham to win have already risen to 2.30, I think this is beneficial, in fact, leaders often don’t strain too much at first and then get the required result. I think in the second half Tottenham will be able to open up the Crystal Palace defense.
2182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 27, 2023, 04:43:59 PM
Damn  Grin
However, I don’t think Ronaldo should be nominated this year, age matters and Ronaldo is no longer playing in Europe, so any statistics are worthless.
Messi, in turn, should not be nominated either, since age has also affected him and he has not been playing at the top level for several years. But unfortunately, corruption has not gone away and this year the obvious number 1 Haaland will be robbed.
I dunno why messi was winning the ballon d'or again. Messi was also no longer played in the europa league as well. I think that there's something wrong in underground this time. Ronaldo was not so ambitious as before.
he cares even more about the reality of his life instead of thinking about ballon d'or. The corruption will never be gone away. It will always stay caused by some people were so greedy as fucks in taking everything from others.
Why shall messi be nominated this year? He was also leaving at the same time when ronaldo was also leaving from united and join in the al nassr.

hmmmm

It's hard to be surprised by any unfair state of affairs in European football given that it is all riddled with corruption, so I don't worry about it, I'm just stating the facts. What kind of justice do you expect if even the presidents of countries are involved in the “business” (Macron who persuaded Mbappe to stay at PSG, Russian thieving officials who “bought” themselves the 2018 World Cup, the Qataris who bought themselves “what a weird winter World Cup 2023”, etc.).
2183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 27, 2023, 04:35:11 PM
Nice is the only team that is unbeaten this season in 9 matches. and looks like it will continue in 10 matches. because it would not be very good for Nice if they got a draw or even lost to Clermont whose player quality is far below Nice.
this season Nice is doing well. Hopefully, they can consistently maintain their performance. Last season wasn't that good but this season they are competing with PSG and Monaco at the top of the standings.

It is logical to assume that the team in second place from the top will win against the team in second place from the bottom  Grin However, I am not surprised that the odds for Nice to win are almost 2 (1.95), apparently the bookmakers take into account that Clermont does not concede many goals as an outsider, and Nice has certain problems with performance. The danger that the game will end with the score close or equal to 0-0 is great.
2184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 27, 2023, 04:26:36 PM
Just wanted to pop in and hopefully remind people like myself that picks need to be made over the next few hours to not miss out Girona - Celta in about 4 hours.

It really is a sign of the times that I'm doubting Celta's ability to even score tonight as Girona has been one crazy upstart to the early season. Iago Aspas has been so dependable for so long that it was always natural their reliance on him would show and it certainly seems so now. My position is close enough to a prize spot that the choice isn't so easy to make.

On the one hand, this is one of the most suspicious matches in this round - can Girona really keep up with the leaders for so long? On the other hand, statistics show that their victories may not be just luck. And by the way, I made a choice in favor of BTTS, Girona is good, but still on average they concede one goal per game, and Celta scores one goal per game.
2185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 27, 2023, 04:22:22 PM
Due to the background, these games are always difficult to predict and injury factors or overall team readiness do not always matter. Personally, this season I have already suffered several times from the fact that Real won the game with a slight advantage in the score, although great results were expected, so I will probably bet on Real to win with a handicap in this game. I believe that Real Madrid have an advantage and it should finally be realized.
So far I'm still 50:50 because on the other hand Madrid can still handle the game with a composition of young players, just because they are playing at home to Barcelona so for Barcelona the result of this match is quite important and will maximize all means.
~

As a result, in my forecast I settled on a score of 3-1 in favor of Real. It seems to me that Real’s advantage is about the same as it was at the beginning of last season, so why shouldn’t Real win again with the same score as last year. I am, of course, biased because I support Real Madrid, but on the other hand, Barcelona also has a lot of fans and with their bets on their favorite club they distort the real balance of power in this pair.
2186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: October 27, 2023, 04:05:53 PM
I made a bold bet on the Young Boys  Grin
And after they equalized I thought “hmm... maybe this makes sense”, unfortunately Haaland dashed that hope. It probably makes no sense to bet on Young Boys winning the return game (even taking into account the fact that the odds will be huge)?
Since I have already received zero points in two rounds, I am forced to continue looking for risky bets and go all-in.

I think there is still time to try a more conservative approach which are 2 options and they are 1st to find a game you are fully convinced it will hit and hopefully the odds will be 1.5 or higher to stake everything for them or 2nd you divide 10 points in four 2.5 points stakes and place them on odds over 2 and 1 of them you can also spend on that Young Boys huge odds  Grin.

Keep in mind though that if you go for such type of bets and go all in you just need another lost bet and you are definitely out of the prize spots unless you hit consecutive underdogs (highly unlikely).

To be honest, after I missed the second round (simply because I forgot about Pot 2) I psychologically resigned myself to the fact that everything was lost here  Grin Therefore, I won’t be upset at all if I don’t get into the prizes. But now I have a great opportunity to take increased risks (and still have a chance to get back into the race) and threaten those who are in the lead now. Isn't entertainment what we're here for? I think it's fun  Grin
2187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Live Sports Betting vs virtual Games Betting on: October 26, 2023, 01:03:32 PM
I've been hearing a lot of debates about this recently, both online and in my local area, and it got me thinking. When it comes to sports betting, do you prefer the thrill of live sports events or the calculated nature of virtual games?

Personally, I've realized that I have a higher success rate with virtual games, but live sports events offer that adrenaline rush that's hard to beat. It's a common dilemma for many bettors. I usually love betting on virtual games giving me this sure vibe that my odds might play out. Live sports can be unpredictable, and if you don't place the right bets, you might go home empty-handed.

So, I'm throwing the question out to all of you. Which type of sports betting gets your heart racing and your wallets fattening up? Do you have a preference, and if so, why?

Of course I prefer live sports betting. If I want something virtual, then I’d rather play dice - it’s faster and the house edge is less than in betting. Plus, no matter how confident we are in the honesty of the virtual game, the purely psychological reliability and honesty of the real game looks more justified. And if we are talking about emotions, then virtual games do not evoke them in me (if we discard my emotions regarding the money that I risk) while sporting events evoke emotions in themselves.
2188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: October 26, 2023, 12:52:13 PM
Being consistent is good, but it definitely won't lead to the top - since the number of participants is large, someone will be lucky enough to guess several unlikely results with big odds. Personally, I'll only bet on unlikely outcomes from now on - I forgot to use my 10 points last round and now feel like I'm way behind, so I need to bet heavily.

I'm surprised myself that the King of backing the underdogs is advicing us against it now. buwaytress when did you start believing in consistency?

Perhaps in a bid to fool everyone else into thinking this is the way to go? And by the looks of it, plenty of all-ins on "safe" teams lost last night. I thought I was pissed at Atletico but Trofo had 10 points on them hahaha.

I caught some good points with BVB (finally repaying my trust in them). Too bad it was only 4/1 when I made the form. Last night you could snatch 6/1 pre-kickoff...

I made a bold bet on the Young Boys  Grin
And after they equalized I thought “hmm... maybe this makes sense”, unfortunately Haaland dashed that hope. It probably makes no sense to bet on Young Boys winning the return game (even taking into account the fact that the odds will be huge)?
Since I have already received zero points in two rounds, I am forced to continue looking for risky bets and go all-in.
2189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 26, 2023, 12:44:35 PM
The El Clasico match between Barcelona vs Real Madrid will be the match we are looking forward to. In the midst of Barcelona players being hit by a storm of injuries, Xavi needs to take over the game from the academy. The young players he played with in the Champions League didn't seem to have too much difficulty facing their opponents. On the other hand, Madrid currently has a complete roster of players and Bellingham is still in top condition.
In your opinion, playing at home to Barcelona will be a challenge in itself for Madrid, because in my opinion this match will be quite difficult to predict who will emerge as the winner, Barcelona without Lewandowski, Gavi, Frenkie de Jong, Raphinha and several key players who are absent makes the match difficult burden that must be carried by the host.

Due to the background, these games are always difficult to predict and injury factors or overall team readiness do not always matter. Personally, this season I have already suffered several times from the fact that Real won the game with a slight advantage in the score, although great results were expected, so I will probably bet on Real to win with a handicap in this game. I believe that Real Madrid have an advantage and it should finally be realized.
2190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 26, 2023, 12:34:26 PM
I love how PSG played against Acmilan today in their UCL game,  at the earlier stages of the season they were inconsistent and it affected them to the point that got embarrassed by Newcastle, they were defeated 4-1 but after the international break it seems the whole squad have rediscovered their form cause they're currently playing very brilliantly and did very well today, i had doubts about them winning before the match started but suprisenly they did a good job and claimed 3points from Acmilan.

 PSG performance today was outstanding I think the players are now getting an understanding amongst themselves, it was their star player that scored the opener goal to boost their morale in the 1st half and the game would had ended in a 4-0 victory if not for Dembele's goal that was cancelled by VAR, PSG really deserved the victory they performed better, dominated mostly and even created more chances.

I already wrote that after PSG dropped the ballast in the form of Neymar and Messi, they potentially became a more dangerous team than in the previous two seasons, and in fact this worries me since I am rooting against them. But I can’t help but admit that the team has now closed the Galacticos project (which was not successful anywhere) and began development in the right direction. If they find their game, they will be able to compete even for the Champions League, League 1 is in their pocket as always.
2191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 26, 2023, 12:23:45 PM
And this is the another guy where people said better than Ronaldo Tongue.



Sadly the football international award is full of corruption, this is why Ronaldo isn't included in Ballon d'Or nomination. If FIFA is fair, Ronaldo will always become a nomination in Ballon d'Or and won more than FIFA's child.

Damn  Grin
However, I don’t think Ronaldo should be nominated this year, age matters and Ronaldo is no longer playing in Europe, so any statistics are worthless.
Messi, in turn, should not be nominated either, since age has also affected him and he has not been playing at the top level for several years. But unfortunately, corruption has not gone away and this year the obvious number 1 Haaland will be robbed.
2192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 26, 2023, 10:59:36 AM
as reported by the 'telegraph' on wednesday, the premier league has recommended to the relevant commission to punish fc everton with a deduction of twelve points. the reason is the violation of financial rules. the league accuses the club of having incurred losses of 304 million pounds in the past three years. according to the rules, a maximum of 105 million pounds is allowed. but a decision is not expected until later in this year...

Hmm... now it’s really impossible to apply this punishment because then Everton will have a negative number of points (-5)  Grin
Essentially, the question of whether this punishment will be applied means whether Everton will remain in the Premier League or not.
Well, as always, I am not surprised by such news - it reminds me of how UEFA punished Ludogorets for violating FFP, while the cheating clubs PSG and City completely avoided punishment in various ways.
2193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 26, 2023, 10:53:24 AM
Finally I got the quotes for the Serie A title:

Inter 2.10

Ac Milan 3.25

Juventus 4.50

Napoli 9.00

For some reason Inter is still considered the big favorite, I think their advantage should be more modest. And I also noticed that apparently the bookmakers themselves are not sure of anything because even if you take these 4 teams and neglect the rest, the bookmakers’ margin will be more than 11%.

yes exactly, these are the real odds, in the end they reflect how strong the teams facing this season are
notice how Napoli has dropped a lot in prices, there must be a reason, right?
It bothers me to say, I said it

Napoli are always the underdogs in the big four, plus they have a new coach, plus tensions with Osimhan, plus their results have dropped sharply compared to last season and are now tied for 4th-5th place with Fiorentina. The fact that their quotes are as such does not raise any questions at all. The beauty of Serie A is that the randomness here is very large and who knows, maybe Napoli will return to the race for the title, not only because of the radical improvement of their own game but also due to the failures of their competitors. For example, Milan yesterday showed itself to be an extremely weak-willed team.
2194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a Top-down or Bottom-up bettor? on: October 26, 2023, 10:41:17 AM
Bottom-up. In the end, we are fighting with the bookmaker's opinion (even if it is based on cash flows = the opinion of other players) and the margin which is against us. If I see distorted bets, then I easily bet on them. Placing bets according to a top-down scheme is very difficult, almost impossible, since you do not have accounts with each bookmaker and round-the-clock time to track quotes and catch a change of 1-2%.
Yes, trying to make multiple accounts just to hedge out with those minimal percentage differences would really be that needing that effort and somewhat really that tiring
on just trying to see those differences on which not really that worth for the work and time but if you do have that sufficient time then you could
really be able to waste up on that manner.  Smiley

There is no point in hedging bets to get a guaranteed profit. You just freeze more money and the average profit is the same if you just look for value and place a bet. Somewhere on the forum I saw a topic in which this was shown purely mathematically. And do not forget that one way or another bookmakers do not like those who hedge bets, it is clear that it is up to the player where, how and how much to bet, but this can cause problems in some bookmakers.
2195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 26, 2023, 10:31:52 AM
The question is also whether 115 million is hight amount now? Prices have risen not only because of inflation, but also because of the growth of football itself as a business (and thanks to the Saudis, of course). This is the reality, it must be accepted, even Bayern, which resisted for a long time, was able to do this and paid a lot of money for the not too young Kane, and even in conditions when his contract was expiring in just a year.

Also, everyone in the business knows how much money a club has that is interested. One good example is also the transfer of R. Kolo to PSG, when it was about to fail but in the last minutes when the transfer window was still open, PSG topped up their offer once more and Frankfurt cashed in a huge amount in transfer fees. I think Frankfurt once signed him as a free agent? I believe that was the case and since Frankfurt knew that PSG won't let a transfer fail for 10 million more or less, they really risked to wait until only minutes were left for the transfer to be finalized.

It was a risky gamble, but apparently justified, since if we talk about “average” prices, then for PSG there really is no difference +-10 million, they just take what they need. It is ironic that in the case of Mbappe, PSG also played this game but lost - they did not receive not only a lucrative offer from Real, but none at all  Grin
2196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 26, 2023, 10:24:52 AM
The competitions between the teams in the group F looks very tight that after Dortmund beat Newcastle yesterday they had just open their opportunity to qualified and at least 3 teams who have equal chances to finish at top 2 but after the loses from PSG i think AC Milan are excluded however 4th matches also looks interesting because the schedules will be same that Dortmund vs Newcastle and Milan vs PSG and probably their position will be determined depend on the results of these matches later because if Milan lose again from PSG then they certainly will not be qualified and if Dortmund can able to beat Newcastle again then Dortmund most likely will be qualified and Dortmund has good chances to beat Newcastle in this match because this time they will playing as a host

Theoretically, even if Milan scores not 12 points in the remaining games, but 9, they will qualify, but given the level of the opponents, this looks unlikely. It's funny that in just one round, Newcastle, which was the favorite of the group, changed places with Dortmund and is now an outsider (Milan is even worse, but we do not take it into account). But I wouldn’t be surprised if Borussia surprises us again in Dortmund, this time in a negative sense.
2197  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 👑 CoinRoyale.com | Man United vs Man City ⚽ 29 October (FreeBet 1mBTC). on: October 26, 2023, 09:59:13 AM
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2198  Local / Идеи / Re: Хочу продать гениальную идею :) on: October 26, 2023, 06:50:55 AM
Есть способ гораздо проще: сделать свою идею достоянием общественности, а уже потом через суд требовать финансовой компенсации, когда компания ею воспользововшаяся озолотится. Но скорее всего они попытаются сначала предложить вам денег за право использования вашей идеи и здесь главное правильно оценить ее пользу и не просчитаться, потому что потом будете кусать локти узнав, что прибыль от реализации в миллион раз превышает ваши комисионные. Ну а как сделать идею публичной? Можно к примеру написать статью или книгу, опубликовать это все официально через известное издательство, заключить договор и поставить там свою подпись, дату и время. Авторство в этом случае гораздо проще доказать, также будет легко установить время публикации: если кто-то решит украсть идею, переписать и заявить, что он придумал ее раньше, то он не сможет это доказать. Даже если он НА САМОМ ДЕЛЕ придумал ее раньше.

Пока что в судах достаточным доказательством является емэил отправленный самому себе.
В остальном звучит утопично. Вы исходите из того что у вас вообще будет возможность с кем-то судиться, однако, это весьма и весьма сомнительно. Представьте два варианта после того как вы опубликовали идею:
1. Ее начинают реализовывать десятки мелких стартапов по всему миру. Ваши действия? Судиться? Так бабок уйдет больше чем если бы вы сами попытались свою идею реализовать (напоминаю что это не суд с Васяном с соседнего подъезда а суд например с каким-нибудь Хулио из Бразилии).
2. Корпорация заинтересовывается идеей, делает её рерайт (чтобы она выглядела уникальной и не вашей) и прекрасненько все реализует. Чтобы хоть что-то с них поиметь нужны снова миллионы баксов и годы на судебные тяжбы.

Так что я пока свои идеи складываю в ящик, либо сам реализую со временем либо пусть до них другие сами додумывается.
2199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 25, 2023, 08:17:11 PM
The question is Liverpool afford to spend a high amount of money to sign Musiala? Their biggest transfer was Nunez which they spent for 85 Million Euros, Musiala's market value is 115 Million Euros, it's really big for Liverpool.

I think Klopp will try to find an alternative player which play in weak club or small league rather than sign a star player.

The question is also whether 115 million is hight amount now? Prices have risen not only because of inflation, but also because of the growth of football itself as a business (and thanks to the Saudis, of course). This is the reality, it must be accepted, even Bayern, which resisted for a long time, was able to do this and paid a lot of money for the not too young Kane, and even in conditions when his contract was expiring in just a year.
2200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 25, 2023, 08:09:19 PM
I think Lazio has dropped form this season and Feyenoord are is good form this season scoring goals although I would not have played Feyenoord to win Lazio but I think they had the better chance to win.

But I am shocked about the Barcelona versus sharktar match, I think Barcelona weakness was exposed and they would have drawn the match, Barcelona is finding it hard to play football every match is becoming a struggle.

Feyenoord were slight favorites before the game (probably due to their Serie A status) but in fact they completely crushed Lazio. If now Celtic in the game with Atlético can bring the matter to victory, then this will be another group of death where everyone has a chance and in one round you can move from first place to 3rd place and vice versa.
There's nothing surprising about Barcelona's performance - they have a lot of games like this, and there were a lot of gut-wrenching games last season too, with narrow margins. That didn't stop them from winning La Liga. At these stages, none of this is important.
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