Trust is abused by more then the people you consider in the "mob" and complaining isn't going to change it. Give theymos a viable solution and maybe something will be changed.
I'm just voicing my opinion and not taking either side, but how many things have changed by simply complaining?
You mean like you weren't taking sides when you deleted positive trust you had left me in the past for voicing my opinion? Your hands aren't as clean as you pretend they are. Actually a lot has changed and continues to change, your ignorance of this fact is meaningless. You and trading is a different story as I have never seen an issue with you on a trade here. As seen by your reply to my last post, you're just an asshole period and bring a lot on yourself. There is no rationalizing with you about anything. You're right everyone else is wrong end of story right? You're lucky people don't just tag you for being a fucking narcissistic prick. I have already agreed in the past, me removing my trust for you was probably not the smartest move because our trade should have nothing to do with how I feel about you personally, but at least I didn't replace it with a retaliatory feedback like you huh. Reap the rewards for being a prick dude. Thanks for admitting you use the trust system to satiate your emotional whims rather than as a system to prevent fraud. I am a prick, what of it? Does that justify your use of the trust system as a tool of retribution to soothe your butthurt? What retaliatory feedback? Please quote. |
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Trust is abused by more then the people you consider in the "mob" and complaining isn't going to change it. Give theymos a viable solution and maybe something will be changed.
I'm just voicing my opinion and not taking either side, but how many things have changed by simply complaining?
You mean like you weren't taking sides when you deleted positive trust you had left me in the past for voicing my opinion? Your hands aren't as clean as you pretend they are. Actually a lot has changed and continues to change, your ignorance of this fact is meaningless. |
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As usual, the protectionist trust mob are rallying together as they get cornered by their own bad behavior and attempt to use the trust system as a cudgel to punish people for calling it out. Amazing coincidence this negative rating was left for me today as I called out the behavior quoted below. marlboroza 2019-12-31 troll This is just more of the usual MO of the DT mob of attacking people their buddies have just victimized digging up any dirt they can to create a false equivalence. None of this bullshit negates the fact Lauda abused the trust system against this user, and this is a very transparent attempt at retribution for making a public grievance over it.
How much longer is everyone going to tolerate the use of the system designed to prevent fraud as a tool to silence criticism? |
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I have some experience with collectables in general. In this case it would be worth the effort to photograph these individually. I would also suggest listing them on eBay. I know it is a lot more work and your friend probably is looking for Bitcoin, but you will get a much larger return this way and can just use the funds to buy Bitcoin. Of course this could take a while to sell them all at full retail, but that is the main difference between selling individually and as a lot. Good luck.
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~ Thanks for the response. This is exactly the kind of stuff that keeps you on my excluded list. We both know the only reason I'm on your distrust list is because I put you on mine. This has nothing to do with the topic or the rating he received. That's why I apologized for going off topic in the first place. That's why I asked for clarification on something (unrelated) that struck me as odd. If you want to scrutinize the target of abuse until you feel you have reached a point of false equivalence start your own topic on the matter if it is so critically important. I'm not here to scrutinize the victim, I have no desire to do so. I'm not looking for any excuses or false equivalencies. But, being the victim of abuse does not shield one from the ramifications of also being abusive. Just because this topic was started to point out one type of abuse doesn't mean I should ignore the potential existence of another. Did I say it was why I put you on my excluded list or why you stay there? You are a dope who buys the whipped up horse shit of the DT mob clowns and excluded me when I didn't do anything wrong. Of course that is why I excluded you, because you either have no common sense or you are on your knees in front of them. Either way I don't want you on my list. You apologized... in the same post, then posted it anyway. Why actually post it if you were sorry and knew it was off topic? Excuse me if I think you are full of shit with your disingenuous apology here. Yeah, right, you are not here to scrutinize the victim, just be the one to dredge up unrelated bullshit completely off topic which conveniently not only misdirects the actual topic of discussion but then shifts blame to the accuser. How convenient you get curious about such a thing right now in the middle of this topic. This is why I don't trust you, because you pretend to be moderate and nice but really you are full of shit and it is covered by a thin veneer of please and thank you. You are the new front line for the DT mob playing the role of the moderate so you can inject your bullshit for them to follow up and do the real hammering. You played the same role with me. Either you are too dumb and naive to recognize this dynamic or you are just plain old full of shit. |
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This is just more of the usual MO of the DT mob of attacking people their buddies have just victimized digging up any dirt they can to create a false equivalence. None of this bullshit negates the fact Lauda abused the trust system against this user, and this is a very transparent attempt at retribution for making a public grievance over it.
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Someone said in the review about collectible coins mystery box, just wondering whether it is crypto or just US coins..  Fiat coinage. It will consist mostly of US coinage, but will also include world coinage. Every coin mystery box will contain at least some silver. Check out this thread for more details on my other mystery box options: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4983375 |
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They did have solid evidence to impeach Trump. He's been impeached.
Impeachment is a tricky matter because the articles of impeachment did not cite a particular crime that Trump committed which takes away from the objectivity of the charges. A President can be impeached for essentially anything so to say there was evidence of impeachable related offenses is technically correct but does not set a good precedent because you could make this argument and cite evidence for impeachable offenses in every single Presidency in American history. Looking at the timeline of events, near August Democrats were accusing Trump of bribery related charges by tying military aid into investigations with Joe and Hunter Biden. Was it wrong of Trump to ask for investigations into his political opponents? Sure. I'll concede that point because it isn't a good look for the President of the U.S. to be inquiring about his political opponents via proxy of a foreign country -- Have the U.S. Department of Justice handle it. But, there was not enough evidence to suggest that Trump had sought out investigations into Joe Biden and Hunter Biden with predication of those investigations being linked to the release of military aid. Democrats knew they could not charge Trump under the legal codes of extortion or bribery so they chose broad charges of Obstruction of Congress, which he has the legal authority to do, and Abuse of Power which is too subjective of a charge. When Nancy Pelosi was asked about this, she didn't have an answer stating that it was up to the lawyers she worked with to cite the specific charges. Keep in mind, a month prior to this statement, she was on the record stating that Trump would possibly be charged with bribery related charges. Regardless of your views of Trump, this was not a good move to impeach. Public support for were pretty much across party lines shown by polling data with independents split on impeachment. There's an election coming up in 2020, support for Trump should have been decided there. Combine this with Nancy Pelosi holding impeachment charges in the House, I can't help but believe this is partisanship taken too far. Impeachment requires "high crimes and misdemeanors". The articles votes on don't seem to include any statutory crimes making them invalid. Furthermore the articles of impeachment have not been submitted to The Senate, meaning technically until that has been done, the legal prerequisites for an impeachment to be valid have not been completed. |
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~ That is not even my reddit account, it has just one post which has my telegram ID, that doesn't prove I have posted that message. ~ airtman is not my account, this is were your deactive work got deflected. He just used my telegram ID once, I even asked him on telegram immediately to remove my ID from the posts as I was unaware what he was offering properly. I even have proof of telling him that don't involve me here, but he was unable to edit the thread. Wait a minute, sorry to go off topic here but there's something I'd like clarified: Some random redditor (coincidentally using the exact same pseudonym that you use here) mistakenly posted your actual Telegram username on reddit? What are the odds of that happening? And then some random newbie offering the same service as the reddit post also mistakenly posted your Telegram username in a post here on the forum? In that screen shot you posted the user to whom you were talking complained about getting red-tagged, to which you responded "yes, you mentioned that we offer paid posting." Care to shed more light on how all of this happened? This is exactly the kind of stuff that keeps you on my excluded list. This has nothing to do with the topic or the rating he received. If you want to scrutinize the target of abuse until you feel you have reached a point of false equivalence start your own topic on the matter if it is so critically important. |
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Congratulations on being wrong on this issue for over 8 years. That must be some kind of a forum record. Since one of your favorite habits around here is eating your own vomit and puking it back up again I am just going to reply the same way I did last time. I am happy to be wrong about this, however it is an accepted fact that many factions wish the USA to go into Iran, this is not even up for debate. One of the only ways regular people can prevent this action is public discussion and pressure on public officials to NOT let it happen. The fact is it is a very real possibility that has been planned since before 9/11 as anyone can read in the PNAC documents. Just because I was pointing it out years before anyone even noticed doesn't make me wrong, it just means I am ahead of the curve while children like you are only thinking in spans of weeks and months. This is something that has been in the works for decades and you simply are incapable of thinking that far ahead. Bone apple teeth. |
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Main thing here is i'm saying the point of that specific NEG-feedback for that reason of that merit on that post was inappropriate... Here i'm saying that imo Lauda is wrong then why being a d*ck towards me, here i'm just showing i'm a guy that isn't on no ones side or whatsoever and in some cases members as you can be right, on other Lauda could have a point...
Thats not unreasonable I think, but on other things I could sometimes better read the OP carefully before saying some things that isn't based on the full story, for that I know I have been wrong for some people... Maybe read what I said again. I have no control over whether you get offended or not, only you do. I am not going to mute my words because you take offense to them, sorry. You can either find a way to deal with it or keep complaining about it, either way I won't be catering to your demands to fix something you have complete control over. |
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I don't know but for Lauda is still a person that catches a lot of spammers and did helped the forum on many ways, with continuously searching spammers/scammers and whatsoever then of-course you will be a hated person by a lot of members as well and many will try to stop that person and....
So I think he/she earned a lot of credit by helping out, I do remember having a question and being answered prompt (don't remember the matter instantly, but it was fast) Then again if the red-feedback was only on that merit post that was saying something over highly respected members then I would say thats over the line.... Imo I would say its fair to remove the red and maybe make a neutral in which you say something but red-feedback isn't at its place (for me).
You sound like an abused house wife telling us how much her man has changed for the better as she holds an ice pack to her eye. I don’t know how to say this sir and I would pick my words carefully but there just are no other words like you are a d*ck that behaves himself under very much circumstances as a total d*ck! I wouldn’t distrust you for a trade or whatsoever but I do dislike your approach to many other members..... With words I know I doesn’t have to cross swords with you cause that a losing situation for even when I would be right it’s still exhausting and would end in a loss probably though I just know on behavior toward another member, other persons I will outclass you any day. you don't have to be derogatory to everyone at any time.... you are a Legendary old timer, behave as one.... It will lead you to better places. Even Lauda didn’t agree with me telling you had a point, though he didn’t disrespect my sayings as you always do for who know which reasons. I am a dick. Other people might describe me as blunt and direct. I am well aware I rub some people the wrong way, and I frankly am not that concerned about it. What I am more concerned about is people not abusing the systems here to pursue vendettas against others for doing little more than rubbing them the wrong way. My comment was not intended to be derogatory but rather elucidating to the pattern you are exhibiting as it is indeed a common one. If this offends you that is unfortunate, but dancing around the truth often allows it to be obfuscated. You seem to be the type of person who would tolerate long term abuse if you could avoid conflict, I am not. I would rather have an all out conflict and get it over with and have long term peace. This forum has a pathological obsession with conflict avoidance. Conflict often serves many positive purposes, the trick is figuring out the difference between the purposeful and the futile. There is no point to class if it means sacrificing your values. Violating your own principles for the sake of avoiding conflict is not classy at all. |
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I can easily see this ending up being a clusterfuck I might indeed be terribly naive here  I like the effort and intent here for sure, but you know what they say about the road to hell. This one I don't think is a winner. Keep trying  |
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Any attempt to implement 100% capitalist regime would lead you to either fascism or the public unrest which will result with violent overthrow of such government. What does statist facism have to do with free-market capitalism? o.o I think the founding US did fine without facism as much as Hong Kong does today  Because they were never and are not full capitalist economies. Just look at the inequality from today with all the socialist policies we have (social security, welfare etc). In a full capitalist system the gap between poor and wealthy would likely ballon by several magnitudes and likely succumb to some feudalistic system where the top is gonna decide everything while majority of citiziens are poor and slavelike. (On a global scale this is actually what happens - industry nations decide what happens and earn the most money while 3rd world nations are used as garbage dumps and doing low value work that make them barely survive). I just dont see human nature changing in the short term so that we can have utopia with a full capitalist economy. You operate under the assumption that these social programs do not contribute to inequality and assign all blame to capitalism. I don't find it a coincidence that there is a correlation with all of these social programs in the USA being expanded and economic instability and hardship growing. |
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Virtue signalling is basically bragging about your superior ethics and morals for no other reason than to get the satisfaction and popular support for speaking of it, but having no actual motivation to follow through with the moral values you so vocally espouse. It would be like some one who chastises some one and talks about how important being vegan is, then goes home to their leather couch and enjoys a nice steak. |
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While I like the intent here, I get the distinct impression that this kind of feature would be used to not only cement in controlling groups within the trust system, it would also relieve pressure from users to act on abusers of the trust system while still leaving them the ability to abuse their authority. I can easily see this ending up being a clusterfuck of selective application and driving even more clique like group think as the popular/suck ups get taken care of while the ones that do their own thing get neglected.
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And this type of human nature does more harm to the community than good. In real world you would just ignore this peoples rather than dealing with there nature. In the real wold these types of people would catch a beating, which is why they come to the internet to act this way. As we are talking about human nature here, People with nature like JayJuanGee would just ignore them. But people like you and me would surely react in a pretty bad way and majority of other would too. Sad they could not be virtually caught in beating somehow. I doubt that it is becoming to be seeming to be advocating violence. Surely there are a variety of ways to deal with people in the real world, and some of those ways are more helpful than others, depending on circumstances, and sometimes you might end up getting locked up too, if you are an adult who is engaging in violent behaviors in the real world... Of course, depending on circumstances, you might also end up getting surprised if you had not noticed what you are dealing with, too... so there is that. No one is advocating violence, but I think you know that. In real life there is a line everyone knows not to cross because there may be a severe cost for doing so. On the internet this line is not clearly defined. The point being is that if this were in real life, most of these people would not dare to behave this way. |
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I'll take 1,000 petty scammers over a tyrannical dictator any day..
This is what it boils down to at the end of the day. Using some basic common sense and due diligence one can protect themselves from these petty scammers. There is no way to escape the damage tyrannical dictators do to the community. |
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And this type of human nature does more harm to the community than good. In real world you would just ignore this peoples rather than dealing with there nature. In the real wold these types of people would catch a beating, which is why they come to the internet to act this way. |
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